Sept. 4, 2025
Why Your Pet & You Need Minerals

As we understand the importance of minerals in optimal nutrition, the availability and interactions are crucial for the body to function properly. Morley and I deep dive to give you the understanding you need for your pet and yourself. A must-watch.
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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,
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where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
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Bill the Pet Health Guru.
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And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, to show where
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your pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet
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Health Guru with you tonight for another dynamic show. We
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got a lot of things to talk about tonight as always,
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and as always, I want you to share with anybody
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things going. We're going to have an interesting guest tonight,
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and I just wanted to say at the beginning the
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chat is open like always, and of course it's one
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of the things I wanted to bring up as we
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get started here is of course they had the ten
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Health Cafe and of course dead of our sponsors by
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Palaeo Pet and Biocomplete Natural Diets. You know, we often
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have to look at the human side of health and
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wellness to find the finest products that we can, the
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best solutions, and you know, not just something that's going
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to fix. You know, there's a lot of products out there,
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supplements and things like that that offer help, but really
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are really you're just masking symptoms. So what we're looking
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for the real fixes. That is why I love bringing
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on real experts. We talked about experts for the last
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two weeks and one of them is a friend of
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mine that I respect his knowledge minerals especially, and with
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that I want to bring on Morley Robbins by my buddy.
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How you doing, Morley to be here?
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Thank you for the opportunity.
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It's uh, you know, we're doing battle every day as
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you know, well we always do, you know, fighting, I know,
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but I've done the last two weeks talking with and
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how you find an expert and you know, to find
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the real experts. And I had a health coach on
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last week and that does both pet and the human side.
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She's a human health coach, but she's also an educator
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as a describer and educator extraordinary. She's a good, really
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great teacher of like thirty years. And of course I
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consider you my mineral expert. You bring so much, so
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much information and new information every every time you're on
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and this is like what I don't know, six seven eight,
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I lost trap, I lost you. I don't count anymore.
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But it's always a pleasure to have you, and you know,
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starting to move on with this stuff. You know, I
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know that every time I talk to you, you've got
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new information, new so called UH dilemmas, crisis UH management
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that you're looking at. Every seems like every time every
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time I talk to you, there's another thing that just
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pops up, doesn't it.
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I'm always amazed. I think it's my ruling recipient. I'm
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very open to new information. And I would say almost
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every day there's a bombshell discovery that falls into my lap.
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And like today, one of my colleagues, he's a graysmate
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of my program. He's a very accomplished that a periodetic periodontis.
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But he's his whole practice changed as a result of
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the root Cause protocol. But he sent me an article
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today about nitric oxide, and everybody thinks they need to
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be taking nitric oxide tablets to make their arteries more relaxed.
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And every front has a back, and this particular article
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is talking about there's a concept in our cell that
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a lot of people probably aren't familiar with. It's called
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the laybile iron pool. Well, the first time you hear layby,
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you're thinking pretty happy actually means highly reactive. Okay, that's
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not good. You don't want reactive iron inside your cells.
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But this laybile iron pool can be in the cell,
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it can be in the mitochondria, and it can be
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in the nucleus. That's that's not good. And the research
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that he's shared with me is exploring how nitric oxide
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increases the size of the labile iron cool It completely
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changes the narrative about so what is this nitrigoxide all about?
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And the part that we're not familiar with is the
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air we breathe as twenty one percent oxyden. Right, can't
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live without it, can't age without it either. Well, what's
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the other seventy nine percent nitrogen? There's a lot of
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nitrogen in our body, and a lot of nitrogen that
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becomes nitric oxide and It's absolutely stunning that the world
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of practitioners has now been trained to believe that they
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should be passing out these nitric acid nitric oxide tablets.
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That's like, well, you don't do that in a copper
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deficient body. It's just not done. And so the yet
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again a shining new object that everyone safe as a downside,
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And this was a study from I think twenty twenty three,
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so it's not like it's not brand new, but it's
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not old either. And I was just stunned to read
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that because I've always had this suspicion about this mandate
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to be taking nitric oxide that is encouraged across the
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board and a lot of health circles. So just people
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have got to be aware of the fact that every
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front has a back, and that, as you well know,
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I think you're very devoted to keeping things natural, keeping
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things at the foundation, making sure that we're being really
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true to the food, not to supplements. And here we
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have this metabolite. It's actually the smallest hormone in our body.
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It's very powerful. This is not an innocent little bystander,
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and now we find out it has a relationship with
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this highly react pool of iron it's like, Wow, I'm
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just I'm absolutely flabbergasted by what I learned. So that's
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a bit of a bombshell.
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Yeah, it is, you know, because I mean, you know,
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we see all these commercials now for night Outside, you know,
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different things, you know, super beats and you know all
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this stuff. You know, I guess if some of this
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stuff is coming in a natural food forms, it's it's
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going to be more you know, it's being handled better
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by the body than these supplements are. Who knows how
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they're made, you know, how they're broken down. That's always
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the biggest challenge I have, because you know, I did
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a podcast You're a few months ago, probably a month
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or so ago, on a difference between whole foods and
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of course supplements. And I've actually read the ingredient label
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off of a supplement bottle, like twenty different ones, every vitamin,
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every mineral that was listed on it. It says sourced
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from Now what does that mean? You know, it's extracted
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from and then so how was it extracted? What form
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is it actually in? Is it usable the body? And
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it was funny because when I read down through the list,
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I hit the bottom of it and they had three
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vegetables listed, so it could say vegetable base like you know, broccoli,
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callie flower and something else I don't know, And it's
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like you've got to be kidneyed with. So what are
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those bringing to the table, you know, a label on
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the jar.
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Well, I think I think the average person is so
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beaten down all of the chicanery that's going on in
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the food system just kind of throw up your hands
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and say whatever. I mean, I think it's a very
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rare person who's willing to kind of all that situation
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and really take it into their own hands.
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Yeah, it's really tough. I mean I heard a podcast
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this morning from Regenerative Farmer and he was talking about
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out that basically they're putting hormones back in the dairy
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system again it growth hormones, And what they did is
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change the name and then they're claiming it's to reduce
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down gas and the cow so that we have climate change.
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It's not about boosting production anymore. It's about climate change.
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But it's the same chemical.
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Well, I'm not surprised. It turns out there is an
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enzyme that breaks down nothing. Yeah, right, guess who the
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battery pack is for that enzyme? It's a copper dependent enzyme. Yes,
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and if the cows don't have the copper in their diet,
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in the soil in the grass, well then they can't
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they can't neutralize that nothing, right.
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And of course on the other side of that, they're
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being fed gmo joy and corn rather than natural green
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and that's going to ferment even in a different manner
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than the grass would ferment exactly, it's a different fermentation process.
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And you know, it's crazy.
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The other thing that's that's fascinating. While we're talking about iron,
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and I could I could talk about iron for hours,
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as you know, but we know that there's two different
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forms of iron. There's hem iron and non hem ire. Well,
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the hem iron is coming from animals and it's it's
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called organic iron. The non hem iron is called inorganic
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and it's coming from produce and from supplements and from
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iron infusions which I now call invasions. And they have
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completely different properties inside the body that that I'm sure
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we've talked about this, just to refresh people's going. We
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have an iron recycling system in our body. We need
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twenty five milligrams a day to make two hundred billion
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new red blood cells every twenty four hours. It's twenty
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five milligrams, which is a very tiny amount to make
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two hundred billion red blood cells. That's amazing. And the
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key is twenty four of those twenty five milligrams are
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meant to come from our recycling system that's run by copper.
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One milligram is supposed to come from our diet. Now,
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what's happened in the modern era, Well, they've kind of
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pushed pushed aside this recycling system. Most people don't know
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about it, especially their doctor and for all the emphasis
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is on dietary iron and make sure you're getting enough,
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and they are. They're obsessed with the absorption of dietary iron.
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We don't have that problem when you're recycling. That's a factor.
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And so it turns out that the hem iron, this
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natural organic iron that's been on the planet for a
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long time, is ideally sued for recycling. And wouldn't you
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know it, that the non for the non heme inorganic
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guider is designed for the dietary side. And if it
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doesn't get absorbed right, it starts to accumulate, it starts
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to fill up this label iron pool that nobody knows
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anything about. And it's just again, very simple terms. Heamed on.
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Heme people, I just thought, there's iron, right, and suddenly
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we have this massive impact on the most one of
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the most important aspects of our physiology is this recycling
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of iron all day long, all night long. And if
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we don't have the right kind of iron, we can't
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do it. And the non hem iron does not play
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well in the iron recycling system.
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Wow.
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Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good thing to know.
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Just who new.
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Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, on previous shows,
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you know, we all talk about absorption and you know,
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bio availability, and then we talk you know when you're
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like you were just saying, you know, we're looking at
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it dietarily, not nutritionally. And that's a big, big gap,
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isn't it?
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Absolutely big gap. And again, unfortunately, the average person is
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so stressed out trying to get through the day that
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their bills paid, you know, get their three three squares.
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And.
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I think most of them cut back to like one
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or two meals a day. Now.
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Well, think you're right. Someone told me that that Chipotle
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is allowing you to finance your food now that you
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can pay pay I said, you've got to be kidding. No,
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it's real. Yeeople are so wet for cash that they're
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paying they're doing down payments for their for their meals. God, yes,
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very very sad. And again no consideration to where did
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that food come from, what's the quality? You know, and
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they're just trying to get through the day in terms
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of if you're familiar with Maslow's hierarchy of needs. All
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they're trying to do is survive. Now they're not they're
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not into self actualization or you know, self esteem. It's
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like that's way beyond their their scope right now. They're
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just trying to get through the day.
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Yeah, it's you know, I mean I'm looking at just
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in the last month, month or two months. I mean,
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especially like in the beef industry, the prices are going
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through the ceiling. Supply is not there, and you know,
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of course, you know they try to blame it on
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today's politics, but this stuff started five years ago, six
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years ago, you know, with the shortage on processing and
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you know, because that we were limited in our scope
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and you know how close people could be into packing houses.
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And no, I'm trying to explain it to people that
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them or take a lower price, I'm not going to
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be raising more calves. And you know, when you get
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