Balance Your Pet's Diet ... Naturally

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0:41 And welcome to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet has a Voice. This is Bill, pet Health Guru, with you again in a spot that you can find me every Thursday night. I'm here for you, here for your pets, here for your questions, and and a great, great topic. I think that will be very informative to a lot of pet owners out there that are trying to get their animals healthier, and a lot of this information will cross over into your health as well. As always, I want you to jump on your share button right now, share it with as many people as you can. Let's get this message out. All of this stuff is important to keep our dogs living longer and healthier and pain free.

1:26 The chat is open so we can add the questions, and of course, again with those buttons down there, let's like it and subscribe so you don't miss any more episodes of this fantastic show, this educational experience will And with that being said, I got a topic today because I've you know, I listened to what goes out in my store, I listen to what my clients ask me and that sort of thing. And there's a lot of confusion that's been brought about, primarily by the pet food industry and even the veterinary industry, on how we should be taking care of our pets as far as the nutritional area is concerned. Now, you know, since nineteen fifty five when kibble was invented, it's all become a marketing game, and sometimes the marketing is disguised as science when it comes to going into the veterinary veterinarian type of things.

2:32 But is that really what we're looking for? Are we looking to feed our animals complete and balanced? Now you heard that, complete and balance, that's what it says on a lot of bad and it's also said that it's complete and balanced for all life stages. And when you look at the feeding chart, there's no discrepancy, there's no changes in most of them. Whether it's a puppy, whether it's an adult dog, whether it's a senior. Why did you find as the senior. What's the activity level, what's the health level? All of these things play into that whole thing. What I want to talk about is balancing your pet's diet. And I can tell you one thing that these foods that say they're complete and balanced, I have to ask you a very very simple question. Is the body static meaning that it never changes or is it dynamic, always changing? Which we know the answer. The dog's nutritional needs when it's sleeping are completely different than when it's running around and you're walking out there and exercising them and traveling and health's issues pop up. It's a moment the moment change. And I try to explain this to clients of course when I do consultations and in the store, and I'm going to explain it to you here. It's the marketing of the pet foods is

4:03 nothing more than that. It's marketing and what ingredients you use, how much you use, all of that is subject to change on a moment to moment basis. Now, what I mean by that is in a wild animals don't have a choice. They eat what they can. When they can, they migrate looking for certain foods, looking for certain nutrition, so that they can they can fulfill their natural balance. Sometimes the nutrients they need are in abundance, and they may have a tendency to gorge on those food stuffs while it's available, and then at other times they go through fasting, not because they choose to like we do, but because there's no fully available. So we have to start taking all of this into consideration. As I'm looking at balancing a pet's diet. Now, one of the first things I want to get into is when we're doing diets, no animal should ever have basically a mono diet. And what I mean by that is no animal, no creature on earth, should be eating the same exact thing day in day out. When it comes to processed food, it's chemistry sets, the formulation is supposed to be always the same.

5:25 That's why they can make a claim complete and balance. However, in nature, I mean, we can take a look at a cow where some of us get real milk. Other milk goes to obviously store ultra processed milks, but those cows are eating something diverse every day, even if at least if they're on pasture because they will eat different grasses. Those grasses those weeds what we consider weeds, But those plants will be at different life stages, and at different life stages they can take different vitamins, minerals, hormones, enzymes that are necessary for health. Now, when you get into industrial feed, which is what a lot of the so called factory farms are doing, where you have seed mixed that's supposed to be the same nutritionally balanced, but even that can vary tremendously without ever knowing it. I mean, let's take a standard commercial feed diet for a cow or horse whatever. Okay, you might see ten fifteen different items in there, but you start looking through, these are almost all industrial waste products. You know, the wheat hauls, the oat houlls, the soybean halls, the soybean meal. That's all waste products from making porn oil, soidbin oil, all that stuff. Those are waste products. What nutritional value to

6:57 they have? Besides they're all dead. We need living nutrition. Every animal needs living nutrition in order to thry. So right there, we're starting out with a problem in making that complete and balanced statement. Second part of that is corn that's grown in Iowa is different than corn grown in Pennsylvania. Different varieties that are used, the soil is completely different. Some soil is going to be deficient in a lot of minerals. It's interesting because as our mass produced foods are done up in the Great Plains, because the land is flat for the most part, and we can run a combine for two miles without having to go up or down a hill, without even crossing a stream sometimes. So we have big, huge fields with these big, monstrous, expensive combines can do a lot of production. But when you get into places like upstate New York and Pennsylvania and Ohio, you know, basically where you have a lot of rolling ground, you can't use these big pieces of equipment because the terrain is such that you just can't get any efficiency. So those farms are raising it on smaller plots that are probably much better managed than these huge super farms that we find out in the Midwest.

8:19 So the mineral content is going to be completely different. And I'm going to ask you a question. So, Okay, I got in a shipment of corn from Iowa and I test it. My next order is coming in from Pennsylvania. I test that do I have to change my diet formulation, which every batch of brain that comes in. Do you think they're going to do that? Do you think there's going to be a chemist up there? Like? Okay, so we have one hundred tons from here and we got two hundred tons from there. Now what do I have to do to do the math? Run it through my supercomputer, and we have to adjust the amounts to balance it out. But what about insect damage? What about improperly mature seed? All these things enter into it.

9:06 And now I'm going to throw something into it that most veterinarians, most animal nutritionists, most doctors have no clue about those grain silos. I grew up in Buffalo, New York, and of course that at one point in time was the grain capital of the world. Can believe it, because everything coming from the Midwest came into the Buffalo Harbor, was stored there, got it put on either canal barges to be shipped to New York and Boston Harbors, be shipped overseas or to other cities in the United States. And of course, once the railroads came in, that took the place of the canal, the Erie Canal. But it's in these huge, huge concrete bunkers, basically the skyscraper. If you've ever seen a picture of the Buffalo waterfront, it's really eerie to see all these grain towers. But what people don't understand is, and I know it because I worked in a period of mill in that area. My father spent most of his career working in there as a maintenance electrician. Once a month, those plants close down for one weekend. Otherwise are running seven days a week, but one weekend every month they close down the plants to fumigate it. They're pumping that grain with our snack and other insecticidal killing products to kill all the insects that are hatching out. In that process, that food is contaminated,

10:37 it's adults rated, it's not whole food, and most people don't realize that. So this is one of the reasons why we stay away from, especially in the carnivores. We're going to stay away from all the grains and the ultra processed foods that use them now, but moving away from that grain basin where all this stuff comes from. That grain is even being fed to our beef cattle and to our dairy cattle, So those insecticides and that fumigation, that mineral imbalance. All of those are going into our feed animals, our chickens, our turkeys, our cows. To a lesser extent buys in cheap goats, but it's still there. So we have these contaminants, we have these impurities, we have these imbalances already being created. So the myth of that marketing just went out the window. Now again, dogs and cats are carnivores. You'll hear the a lot of veterinarians will tell you that, no, they're omnivores. They're not.

11:34 They've never been reclassified. They're reclassified by the big three food companies, not by science. And there's a whole bunch of myth that you can actually put together a carnivore diet using plants. Components aren't the same. You can't get the amino acids that without high processing, and if you do, processed food is not recognized by the body as real. So we can't captivate. We can't capture the minerals, the enzymes, the vitamins that are in that synthetic like we do from whole foods, and the top that off, we're the only creature on the face of the earth that cooks our food and destroys those enzymes and those vitamins. Everything else eats raw food every single day of their life. Now, I had a client, just to give you a little sidebar here, I had a couple of clients come in asking about the eggs that we sell and why sometimes you know, you'll get a dozen eggs and ours our pasture raised, completely pasture raised, not fed any sois or corn or anything like that. And why is it that some of the yolks are yellow and some are orange, Because there's a myth out there that if those big, those nice orange yolks are proof that it's raised on a pasture, it's a falsehood. Again, because today food dyes, food additives are being added to chickens diets to make the yolks different colors, green or purple ones. We can probably do that, but anyway, the variation is because of

13:06 the feed that they're eating. The weather, all of that takes a dynamic part of that food coming together within that food animal. Now, one of the things I discussed with them, and I actually brought to their attention is weather has a lot to do with it. Well, you know, the warmer, the weather the more insects you're gonna have. But if your neighbor's been spraying their crops with insecticide and you get to drift into your pastures, guess what, We've got fewer bugs that they can feed on. You're gonna be more dependent on the grasses and what kind of grasses are they? Again, we have to figure all this stuff in on the backside. That's what I do. That's why I look at the food the way I do and how that works out because of the body always changing the dynamics moment to moment, and because of the inconsistency of any food, any given food that's out there, a rotational diet is paramount eat something different as many times a week as you can. They're animals. Every day should be a brand new entree one day, chicken, one day, turkey, one day, beef, lamb fish, seafood, whatever it happens to be.

14:20 But do that be consistent with that rotation because all foods bring in different nutrients. I mean, you can take the three main steaks and beef, tenderloin, delmonocos or rabbis a New York strip, all three of them taste different because they contain different nutrients. It's that simple. So you know when you have a craving for one over the other, or like one over the other, it's because that's what your body needs. Because now we're starting to work on dynamics of natural selection of the diet cravings. That's why you crave on natural stuff, certain cuts on a synthetic stuff.

15:00 We have cravings because of addictive drugs that are added to them. But the rotational diet is so important now when I talk about that too, I have clients that come up to me and said, I've been doing a rotational diet and it's not It doesn't going to be working as well as you said it would. So I asked what to do. Well, I bought chicken, I bought lamb, I bought turkey, I bought beef, and I bought some salmon. Okay, that's a good start. That's five Okay, so five days a week we can get different stuff. Well, no, I mix them all the other and feed that every day. You just defeeded the purpose of the rotational diet. Yes, you're getting a lot of good stuff in it, but what does a body need today? It doesn't need all that stuff. It needs some of it, and tomorrow it's going to need different stuff and it's going to extract it in a different way. But the most important part of that is every time we eat a different food, especially within groups, we are going to get cleansing. Cleansing is very important. Get rid of the old stuff that's in the gut in digestive track and put new fresh stuff in it because now I'm combining the change of nutrients with that dynamic ability to cleanse out all the garbage, and every food is also taking out certain toxins. So if I've got this mixture in my body, it's not accomplishing the goals that we want. That's why animals in the wild they seek out different areas to eat. If it's a carnivore, there's hunting pastures looking for small animals and birds and eggs, deep through forests bigger animals, deer,

16:34 feral hogs, things of that nature, and then along the ponds and the streams looking for dead and dying fish. Those are the food groups that we have to look at for our carnivores. We'll be right back to go into more depth on all these foods after this quick break. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems. These can be from poor nutrition, and my Pilio Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet, we provide fresh human grad USDA approved biocomplete raw food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for cats, we provide you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life. Our raw food for pets surpasses traditional raw dog food and cat food that you find in your local pet store. Our raw food is made fresh on the premises, source from local suppliers, and are made with only the utmost quality with specific nutritional and functional benefits.

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18:57 Healthier and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and I'm talking about balancing your pet's diet. It's very very important that they do get all the nutrients that are required and all of that. Again, I want you to share this with as many people as you can so we can get this word out. Subscribe and like so we keep our algorithms up. And of course the chat is open. If you've got any questions or comments you want to make, I'll be happy to give it a shot anyway. Anyway, so I was talking about the rotational diet being so important. How rotating means that complete chain, so you're not giving the same thing that's the same mixture every day, because that cleansing is so so important. And you know when we formulate, when I formulate a diet or an entree, I actually don't do diets themselves, because that's a commitment to a small thing. They're all entrees that blend in and create a natural diet for the animal. And in doing so, and following a prey model, what do they eat first, what do they eat the most of, what do they discard?

20:20 What do they come back for later on? Well, when we look at the way it works in nature, small animals basically mice, rats, things of that nature. Dogs are the wolves or the bagger cats, which just grab them, chomp, chomp, chomp, crunch, crunch crowns, bones, brains, eyes, a certain amount of fur, all of that. But it's funny because once you get into medium size prey, things like rabbits and woodchucks, brown hogs, all of that. Wolves are very very particular. They rip it open and in a big cats are the same way. Actually, they actually go in normally through the stomach cavity of bigger animals because there's nothing in the way, there's no bones in the way, and basically they take the guts and they actually rip them out. That's for the buzzers, that's for the bugsy. And they go after on those bigger animals the heart, the liver, the kidneys, all the organ meat. So when you see these posts online and on these chat groups and that some thing the diet's gotta be eighty twenty twenty, you know, bone to no nature.

21:28 It varies basically because of the meal itself, the entree, that dead deer, that's the entree. They eat all the parts. On small animals, they usually eat the head first. That's where the brains are. The brains in the eyes are extremely high in omega threes and nine, the healing stuff. They know what they're doing. Those of us they cut meat have no idea. Those of us that slaughter and formulate have no idea. We have to let nature work its way, and so that's why it's so important to do these prey type models, if you will, and follow it as closely as possible with the different groups, and then cleanse out the stuff that's still there because each meal is going to be unique. For instance, my entrees are just as I described, so all my poulsry products, including rabbit, are going to have things like ground bone and cartilage in large quantities in it. That's going to throw off that ratio. But the next day, when you give that beef and it's mostly beef muscle, meat heart, which is one of the most nutrient dense foods in the world, deliver load it with bee vitamins very important, copper iron, all the vitamins. That's extremely important. And in a carnivor, I hear it all the time, Well, they need fiber. On a carnivore. The fiber that they get is from things like tendons, cartilage, ligaments. That's their roughage, if you will. We don't have to feed them vegetables.

22:57 They're going to get stuck and not digest in this from because they don't have the digestive enzymes. The other thing I hear a lot is, oh my god, you can't do an all protein diet. Meat is not all protein that you'll be surprised when I tell you the numbers. Raw meat generally averages between eighteen and twenty percent twenty two percent protein. It's normally about eight percent fat unless we grain feed it, which is not normal for feed animals, which increases the body weight. They actually add the fat into your cuts of steak and chicken so that they can get more money. It's at the slaughterhouse for it, and it's got about two percent three percent carbohydrate, which is why when you cook meats they caramelize. And then you've got approximately seventy percent living water loaded with the natural hormones and enzymes and vitamins and minerals that would be in that water hydration. Dry food has no hydration at all. If you if you think wetting it with tapwater, dead tapwater will help that out, you're sadly mistaken. That water is probably you got all kinds of contaminants in it as well. I've been studying water for sixty years.

24:11 I was an aquatic expert back in the nineteen seventies, so we've got that going on. The Other thing is is people are worried about how do I switch my diet? How do we switch over that raw food? How do we switch over even that cook food? Won't I get diarrhea? Won't I get vomitting? Let's hope so, because if you've been feeding garbage, which is all the kibble, there is no such thing as a good kibble because of the processing. And you can take the best meats in the world. When it comes out of that exclusion machine, there's nothing left of it. The so called freeze dried foods and the freeze dried raw foods. If it's freeze dried, it's not raw. They can stick raw food into a freezer and the freeze drying process. If any of you are old enough to remember, whenever you frost your freezer, you always find a package of food down in the low or left hand corner that's freezer burned. And what do we do with it? We throw it out. That's what freeze dried food is. We've destroyed about twenty five thirty percent of the nutrients going through that process. And that's scientifically proven. That's not conjecture. That's still highly processed, not ultra but highly processed. And there is a difference there.

25:26 And of course once you destroy twenty five percent of those nutrients through that process, you have to add them back in. Now we're kicking it up really really close to that ultra processed food again, is it better? I don't know. Probably not. I wouldn't feed it unless it's the emergency. Now, I think some of the straight freeze dried foods, not the freeze dried Kibel types, but the freeze dried foods are good for an emergency diet. My preference is dehydrated, low temperature dehydration. It does not destroy as much, and to be honest, it's going to taste a whole lot better for your dog. I know that because we make our own treat line using exactly that, and the dogs and cats just love it. And but you know you're pain. You know again that's going to be dehydrating, so you should be hydrating that, and you know, to maintain that moisture level. Bone broth is excellent for that.

26:23 And I'll get into some of these other balancing things that I use. But it's also important that when we look at the like you say, the formulations. You know, my poultry is grown with the bones and the organs are going to be very small in that the bigger meats are going to be a lot more organ meat. I do not bone into it because most of the grinders can't handle it, so they actually add chemicals to break down that bone mass, so it will go through a grinder and now I have a processed food to get. They're not natural bones. I do feed natural bones recreationally and is a part of a diet. Cleaning teeth and adding calcium a common comment by the health in the so called health industry, which is not about health. But you know dogs, You know dogs can break their teeth chewing on bones. Well, I hate to tell you this, but if your dog shipped to tooth or broken tooth chewing on a bone, they also already have a calcium complex deficiency. And I'm putting it that way because the calcium works with magnesia, manganese, phosphorus, It ties to iron, and ties to copper, all these other elements, these other minerals that most animals are deficient in humans are probably one of the worst supplements. Mineral supplements do not work very effectively because they're in the wrong form and they're not put into the digestive system and into the bloodstream and into the tissue at a fast enough rate. That's

27:55 why I use a lot of herbal products. Those. You know, when we look at what plants carnivors would eat, well, most of the time they're not eating them. They will eat a few from time to time, but most of the time they're drinking out of puddles and ponds and streams that have vegetative material in them. Basically, they're they're drinking herbal teas, very very important. That's where they're getting a lot of their mineralization is through their water, our tap water. If you've got a pro unit in your house to filter out impurities, you filtered out all the natural minerals and then they give you a synthetic to stick in in a compartment and tell you, oh, it's okay, we're remineralizing it. First of all, how many minerals are they even putting into it? Did you know that the human body needs ninety minerals ninety minerals to stay healthy, that's right, and grow. The problem is when our agricultural products are planted, the plants, all the vegetables, the corn, and soil, they add only three three actual minerals to it, three maybe four because now they're finally getting a little bit smarter on magnesium that we need because we're all so magnesium deficient. And but again those are not natural forms of those minerals. They're all synthetic because you know, even when you look at nature, Okay, if they grind up stone and sell it to you as a fertilizer, which is what they do, Okay, that still has to

29:28 break down and things like rain water and bacteria in the soil and enzymes and they're in the soil. That all works together is a biomass. You know. We joke around when I was a kid earthworms eat dirt and they poop out better dirt because it's now been naturally compost, has been naturally processed, and now is a usable product. Were growing plants and then again growing certain animals like birds. It works. We're gonna be right back after this quick break.

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31:42 That health cool rule back with you with our last segment. Here a couple of things I want to throw in here. Questions I get about feeding all the time, I'm going to change for my kibble diet, and I know a raw food diet I mentioned earlier about vomiting and diarrhea. I hope so, because that's cleansing. Diarrhea and vomiting is not sick. That's one of those things that they told us, so that the medical industrial complex has a starting point to get you on medication. One hundred and fifty years ago, nobody ran to the doctor for diarrhea. Nobody ran the doctor for vomiting. In fact, even until the nineteen fifties or sixties. I mean, you know, college kids, you know, you go to college, you over indulge. Diarrhea and vomiting are a natural state, and as soon as that happened, then you were cured. You felt really good. So we don't want to get into that. So when I'm asked then the next question, well how do I start? Do I phase it in like over three weeks and months?

32:47 I mean I've had some people say phase it in overs three four months, six months? No, think about it. I actually told the customer this this past week. So where did you eat dinner last night? At home? Okay, So tonight I'm taking you on for a verir to a very very exclusive restaurant, probably a food with foods that you've never had before, you know, maybe a French restaurant or a you know, a Chinese or Oriental restaurant or whatever, and you had burgers and fries last night. How do I, tradition transition you from that burger and friese to oriental food. We never do it. We just go for it. And yes, you're going to get some cleansing.

33:29 That's the good part of it. You know, it doesn't feel good when you're rushing to the bathroom, I know that, but it's effective because those symptoms all just went away once you have you know, and think about this, why don't we run to the vat with diarrhea or vomiting and the process that event is done. They can't go back before it happened and change it. It's done. The only thing they can do is give you something that might calm down a stomach. But then again, we shouldn't have put something bad in that stomach in the first place. So let's keep that in mind when we're when we're feeding and looking at what we're feeding. It may look gross to us. We may not eat raw meats and fish and things of that nature. Under wors do that's what they're designed to do. And that's very very important. Now.

34:14 The other you know, other questions I get all the time, how well raw food is more expensive? Is it? Really? You can buy some pretty inexpensive cuts of meat, although I don't always recommend it because you don't know how it's raised. We want to get the cleanest food that we can, which means pasture raised, pasture finish, you know, no corn, no soil, none of the GMO stuff. But also with the higher quality foods because the caloric density is natural and higher. More digestible kibble is about only about twenty to thirty percent digestible. Raw meat is ninety percent digestible, so you're actually feeding a smaller quantity to get the same number of kill calories that we need to maintain and a strong immune system, but we don't have the digestive issues. And the other part of that is it's funny we can't afford to feed a raw diet or a good quality diet, but we always have money for flea products and sexticidal products, other preventions, six month checkups. And then after all of that, you're still in the er at ten o'clock or eleven o'clock at night because something you've been told something is wrong, and you have that extra thousand dollars. Now that budget part of it. I can tell you right away where to start if you start cutting out all the heartworm products, because there's natural cures for that, and only three percent of dogs ever have heartworms, by the way, scientifically proven

35:47 in studies for the last almost fifty years. That's going to save you five hundred dollars a year per animal. You can buy a lot of food for five hundred bucks. Let me tell you, and you know the same thing with a lot of the other stuff in that immune system is high. Your dogs don't get fleas and tapes, they don't get cancer. How many of you out there are spending thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on cancer treatments on two and three and four year old dogs. When I started in the business, there was no such thing, at least in a population area. Sure, there were probably isolated cases here and there. I mean I grew up in what was a cancer hotspot outside in Buffalo, New York.

36:29 Loves Canal was right there. That was one of the worst eco disasters. Why am I still alive because I eat clean, I take care of myself. I also take a number on a regular basis. I use a lot of herbs and my cooking, my drinks. You know, we think about herbs as medicine. Herbs are not medicine. That was a term given by the pharmaceutical companies so they could sell use supplements and demonize the herbs. Herbs are whole food products. Botanicals are whole food products. It's almost impossible to ever overdose on any urber of that. I know. There's a rumors going around now on especially with the heartworm and that sort of thing, that oh my god, certain barbs wormwood out Tometia, which has been used for centuries, is now suddenly suddenly a toxic the dogs. All plants contain toxic components, that's how they repel insects. But the quantities that we're using and the size of the animal is no comparison. I've heard the same thing about black walnut. Well, we use black walnut trees for lumber and making furniture because termites hate it. They won't eat it. It is toxic to insects. But when we use the shell hauls the halls ground up in small amounts, that gets rid of heartworms naturally. I've been in a couple of chats, in a couple of posts and groups where the meta

38:00 community is saying, do not do that, it's poisonous. There is no natural cure for heartworms. Well, there's no natural cure for heartworms. Wouldn't every single canine be dead by now? They would not be able to live because they would all have it. Same thing with fleas ticks. Those are inconveniences, but less poison an animal instead of killing the bug, and we have to, you know, and the only thing we can use to kill the bug is a nuclear option. Okay. You know. The other thing is you have to look at the you know, the size of the animal and the dollars per day. Fifty pound dog will average a pound of day of meat. Some meats will be less, some will be more. I recommend gorging and fasting days as well. Don't feed your dog the same amount every single day, because we don't eat the same amount every day.

38:47 We got days when we don't eat it all, and then there's other days when we're just starving all over the place. Vary it very the times, so your body doesn't get accustomed to producing enzymes and digestive ends. I'm ahead of the fact. We want it to happen when we eat the guaranteed analysis on the foods. You know, you're taught by the you know, the petful people look at that. But when you look at that, you have minimums and maximums. Okay, a minimum of twelve percent protein. If I'm feeding soy, and that'll give you your dog a soy diet that's forty five percent protein. It's not on the bag, it's not in the analysis. So take that with a grain of salt and your dogs. Let you say, rule a thumb, one pound for fifty pounds. But also check your dog's health, their activity levels, all of that stuff, because that all enters enjoy it, and they will tell you if you're not give them enough. If it's going in five seconds, they're looking around for more. Give them more.

39:49 And I've got about another minute here. Just to kind of put this into a little bit of a perspective, I've been working with a owner on a cancer dog on College AZ. Look over what I had done because we switched it through a ketogenic diet, which is a cancer protocol taught by the Holistic Veterinary Foundation. In fact, my whole protocol was adopted by them, said that all this stuff looked really good, and then proceeded with the ketogenic diet to start doing infusions of vitamin D and vitamin B and other liquid vitamins. They just threw off the whole balance in that poor dog, and it's going to make it even worse. So you know, now the consumer, of course, is concerned about their dog. They don't know what to do. And all I can say is use some common sense. Realize that medicine is just that, it's medicine, it's not health. And with that being said, I want to thank you for listening tonight. This hour goes by Soda Zamfest. It's just incredible. I'll see you again next week with another great topic. Again, share as much as you can and thank you for watching and listening. Bye bye.

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