Sept. 18, 2025
Feeding the Brain and Immune System Holistically

Dr Dym updates on his latest dive at the recent holistic conference and his takeaways. We also discuss the use of mushrooms and how they should be used for maximum benefits. A must watch!
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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health
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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
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Bill the Pet Health Guru.
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And welcome to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
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Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health
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Guru with another exciting edition of the Pet Health Cafe.
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I want to thank everybody that's tuning in and hopefully
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a question and things like that. As I get started here,
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I've been brought to my attention that we've got many
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many new listeners and viewing audience out there that may
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not know about my history and my past and how
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I got to this position on that house cafe and
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how we developed it. Essentially, I've been in the animal
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industry for almost sixty years. I know it's hard to
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believe that I'm not old, but I really am. But
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on the other side of that, it's been a journey.
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I've been in all phases of the industry. I've worked
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in retail, I've worked in wholesale, I've worked in distribution,
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I've worked in manufacturing. I've designed a lot of products,
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especially in the glooming industry, and of course and of
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course more recently a lot of herbal blends and herbal
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medicine and developing different diets for biocomplete concepts, bio complete
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line of foods and herbs. Our recent venture, of course
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with my paleopet our sponsor as not only a store
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for your pet, but also for you. It's a we
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have a whole farm to table area if you're down
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here in Florida. All of our meats, our eggs are poultry,
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our milk, all of in our honey all comes from
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the state of Florida, All ethically raised, regeneratively raised on
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farms that are doing the best they can. And we've
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been doing a lot of different things. As far as
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health is concerned, We've had tremendous success with all kinds
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of issues with our pets, everything from dermatitis and scratching
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and itching to cancers to tremendous success and can and
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we do this primarily through natural means. And I have
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owned an animal hospital in the past. I used to
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call on veterinarians for for years just to bring them
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up to speeds so what they can do naturally. And
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because of that, it's a passion of mine. Obviously, if
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I've been doing this for almost almost sixty years, it
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is I'm insane this way. It's just really really crazy.
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I really love it when an animal owner comes in
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with their pet and they have seen a complete renaissance,
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a complete change. It's just it's unbelievable when we watch
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tumors and lumps and bumps just go away, you know,
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in a matter of months, without using drugs, without using surgery,
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no extra stress on the animal. That's so rewarding. I
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work with a number of veterinarians, scientists, researchers all over
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the country and actually around the world to bring all
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this information to you. When we try to bring it
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together in a four Matt, that is easy for you
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to understand. I don't try to get into all the
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scientific you know, mumbo jumbo that confuses so many people.
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I'm just gonna lay it out the way it is,
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and that's the way I want to run it. And
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with that being said, I want to bring on my
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guests for tonight, doctor Michael.
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Dim all right, Bill, good to be here.
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How you doing, Doc?
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All right, how's it going today? I would love what
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you just said, you know, I very heartfelt and it
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certainly shows your your passion for what you do. Just
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in a few minutes, I just heard it coming on.
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I was, I was, I was briefly a part of that.
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Well you were. It's it's interesting because we go back
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got to be like twelve years ago, thirteen years ago,
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something like that with the hospital, and uh, you know,
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it's been it's been a roller coaster. I mean, you know,
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we have and a lot of people don't realize all
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the backside stuff that has to be done with what
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I do, especially with foods, and you know, the between
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a pet side and a human side, the different regulations
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that fall into place and are changing on the moment
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the moment basis you know, the shortage of the food shortages.
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I'm the one to see if fees at first when
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I can't get the meats that you need for your
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your path and the quality that I need herbals the
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same way, because the marketplace is changing every moment of
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the every day. It's really you know, it's really a
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tough part of it. Taste a lot of time and
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of course you know where I am most of the
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day when there's customers, it's out there talking with them
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and you know, explaining how and you know, I mean
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I do consultations, lets do you You know, I book
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a half hour time, you know, consultation it's it's sometimes
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two and a half three hours, so that they I
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want them to totally understand what what we're going at
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and what we're looking at. And that's the most satisfying
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part is when we see these animals, you know that
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we're given You know that one dog was given five
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days to live and it was poisoned and here it
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is now nine months later and the dog is healthy
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and happy, you know, and you know we've discussed this
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on the show many many times. So how are you
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doing today?
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I'm doing well, doing well, you know, and busy, busy
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few weeks. You know, I went to a holistic vet
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meeting here in West Pond as you know. You know,
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that was quite interesting, always interesting to get here new information.
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But you know, to me, and I posted something about this,
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you know, there's so much information and ways and modalities
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and different approaches that we have to be careful not
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to get lost in a sea of you know, too
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many holistic approaches because again that then it becomes no
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different than Western conventional medicine, right, Bill, I mean.
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It's exactly right. I mean I had a client come
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in that she didn't a client against for about three
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weeks now. Their dog went through surgery for cancer, for
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tumor remover, and she made the switch, starting on herbs
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and botanicals and everything else they wanted to do it,
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you know, get the healing process going in the right direction.
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And she followed up with the oncologists, I guess in
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the last few days. And as soon as she mentioned
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that she was feeding real food, oh my god, the
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warning bells went off. The red lights were flashing in
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the office. Oh my god. You know, as soon as
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if that walked in because he was talking with one
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of the attacks, everything you know, it's like, oh my god,
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you can't do that. They actually referred to a board
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certified or a veterinary formulator and put something together, at
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which time they were told, well, there's nothing you can
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do for cancer with foodtritionists. I mean yes, And it's
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like I'm doing it. I'm seeing what's going on, and
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you're telling me what and I paid for what? Now
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you were at the conference? What did you see? In
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that respect?
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I shared that with you. I said, there was so much,
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you know, attempts at a kumbaya approach to feeding our animals,
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in other words, more of the along the lines of
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you know that, and some of it was anti raw,
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you know, showing some cases where animals, let's say, didn't
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do as well with raw or had very poor suppliers
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of their raw food diets. And they presented there was
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some nutritionists that were, you know, having the horn of
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just being more you know, whole food balanced, you know,
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different ways of the feeding that you and I both
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don't agree with, you know, And I shared that with you.
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I even't shared with you one of the websites that
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one of the nutritionists, and I think I think you
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have some comments on it.
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Yeah, it's it's you know, it's amazing when we look
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at it in that first off, one of the first
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things they say is, well, it's not complete and balance.
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That's impossible with a dynamic, isn't it exactly?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, so so you know, I mean, that's probably the worst,
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you know, marketing ploy, the most dishonest marketing ploy that
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you could ever give to them, because that body is changing.
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You get a dog with cancer and you start feeding
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a one of our protocol diets and doing the rotation
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and the herbs which are part of the diet. Those
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are all foods, and the body's changing as you're going
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along and getting better. What bails you need. You don't
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need the same nutrients at the beginning of that treatment
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as you do when they're basically cancer free.
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Yet I hear you. I mean it's it becomes I
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mean over analytical, over you know, looking at micro minerals
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and you know, on on, like you said, on a
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daily basis, these needs change, and our animals kind of
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know instinctually what nutrients they need and don't need. And
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you know we in the wild and you know, I
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know in your foods, you know they're they're balanced there
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they're fresh, they're human grade, all those good things, and
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you know, they were just trying to look at it,
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and then they were using an argument that you know,
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in a traditional Chinese medicine perspective, certain meat shouldn't be
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fed and certain you know, and I know, you know,
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we've had conversations on that before, and you know, I
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I don't toast a test of that. I mean, between
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that and the allergy testing that people are now doing.
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You know, that's another big thing I saw at the conference.
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There's this increasing number of labs that are offering all
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sorts of testing, not just heavy metals or you know testing,
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but just overtesting, overtesting.
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And you know, and you and I know that most
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of those test results are bogus anyway, they're not even
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accurate because allergies, especially allergies, that's just another form of
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detox about it. Doing it naturally, well.
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That's what I say, you know, and you know, like
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if they keep feeding the same protein, they're going to
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get allergic to that, to develop an intolerance to that
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over time. So I mean, the whole idea of of
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you know, kind of you know, coming up with pre
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made recipes and then using traditional Chinese medicine principles as
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the reason why they should be eating certain foods. I
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don't agree with it at all.
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It's it's it's really crazy when we set this up
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and think about that. It's you know, it's getting to
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a point and the food side too, even for us
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to formulate some of the things because some of the
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secondary cuts of meat because of changes in the in
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the USDA policy, we can't. We have trouble getting things
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like hearts and liver and kidney and spleen and you know,
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all of these because now they were they're requiring specialty
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inspectors on property just to look at the liver and
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the kidney.
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Wow.
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And you have to you know, in the slaughterhouse has
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to pay for that service to the government. And you know,
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if you're a small boutique, you know, slaughterhouse or processor,
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you can't afford to be paying that person to be
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sitting there doing nothing ninety percent of the time.
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Right right. Absolutely. And the other thing that they brought
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up Bill was about I guess there's a you could
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comment more on this area of expertise, an increasing number
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of resources that aren't very good and giving bad names
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to fresh roll feeding using computer programs. Oh yes, you know,
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maybe you could comment on some of that. I mean,
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that's another big thing out there with fresh diets, well diets.
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Right, Well, the whole thing is is in order to
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be you know, every cut of meat has different nutritional profiles,
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and you know we try to lump it all together.
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You know, well you can't feed beef because it's a
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hot meat, and you other feed this. It's like, no,
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what cut are you doing? What quality are you doing?
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You know, there's a big difference between you know, a
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top select you know, prime steak, ribbi and even a tenderloin,
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same cow, same animal. Basically muscles that are almost touching
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each other actually are together except for a membrane between them.
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And yet because they do different things in the body,
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they have different nutritional you know, nutrients and flavors and
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tenderness and all of that. And it just drives me
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crazy that they just like throw it all in one
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big barrel and you know, oh you can't do.
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they put in what the animal's needs are, and then
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they're coming up with recipes based upon computer generated you know.
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