Oct. 30, 2025

Breaking The False Mythology in Health Care

Breaking The False Mythology in Health Care

Why are we given so much false or misleading information on health and nutrition? We are responsible for providing and maintaining ourselves and our pets a life-style that is optimal for a healthy life. Let us help you sort out the myths from the facts.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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information only. Content presented on any show by any host

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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.

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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,

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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health

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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,

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Bill the Pet Health Guru.

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And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where

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your Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet

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Health Guru, and we've got another exciting show planned for

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you tonight. It's going to be a follow up from

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last weeks with our pet myths, if you will, along

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with a lot of human myths that go along with

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that and some very very important information. Again, as always,

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other places. And with me tonight is Michelle Rougnov and

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Health Coach Extraordinary. If you will and you know we're

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gonna keep continuing through her list from last week. Again.

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ahead and log in and share your comments, your questions

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so that we can answer them. How are you doing, Michelle,

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I can't hear you. I can't hear anything. Not good.

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Earlier.

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Okay, I got it now, how about now? Yeah, I

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picked it up and that was what happened. I'm doing

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really well.

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Bill.

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Thank you again for having me on tonight. It's such

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a pleasure to be on. I love educating your audience

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and people everywhere around the world. Hopefully they're listening. Yes,

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we're going to start out, I guess for just a

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few a recap of what we did last week, and

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I'll go through some of the questions just to repeat

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so in case anyone missed them, if that's.

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Okay with you, absolutely, And of course, you know, anybody

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can go back and listen to the archives and you know,

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catch up if they did miss it last week, because

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it was a lot of great information there. We ran

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out of time as always, but go ahead, start with

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your recap.

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So I'll just recap we were talking about whether or

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not it was a myth for dogs to eat raw

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or cook bones, and of course we established that they

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were allowed to eat even chicken bones, turkey bones, and

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that's okay, there's no problem with that. If you wanted

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to add anything to it, please let me know. Also

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a lot of people believe that when their dog has

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the Ron's diarrhea, we should be giving them chicken it,

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rice pumpkin, and that's an absolute no no. Do you

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want to elaborate, you want to tell.

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Them all it's nothing but housekeeping, but both pumpkin and

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rice are not appropriate diets for them. It would just

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happen to be something that you know, has come up

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over the last you know, fifty sixty years, primarily once

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we started feeding you know, commercial foods, because once we

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started feeding commercial foods, that's when we started to see

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many of the gastric problems because you just can't digest

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that food. And then of course some food manufacturers added

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in stool hardening agents to it, chemicals basically that you know,

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are doing exactly what that rice was supposed to do

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in the first place. So now you've got you know,

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we had a case just recently where the veterinarian prescribed

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with a dog that was not prooven like four binders.

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It's like, you know, let's keep it all, all the

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bad stuff in the body. So we want to get

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rid of that bad stuff as quickly as we can

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and say that way the healing process can stup. One

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of the things that I did, I meant I wanted

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to mention last week on the show is that most

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of these myths that we're dispelling if we use a

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little bit of common sense, common sense which as we know,

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is not very common anymore. But you know, when you

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start reasoning through that way, it all becomes very apparent.

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Excellent point.

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I wanted also to point out that many people feel

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even though they feed a raw or you know, appropriate

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species appropriate diet, they still feel the need to throw

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in broccoli or you know, carrots or vegetables, a whole

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medley of food, and they don't realize that's really not

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necessary as long as they're doing.

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You know very well, you know, it's counterproductive because they

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can't digest it, so it's actually creating kind of a

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fighter's storm in their poor and in your dog's poor stomach.

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you know your dog doesn't tell you, mommy, I've got

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a spelly ache until it's bad.

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And to piggyback off of that, you know you had

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spoken about leftovers in one of your podcasts. People throw out,

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you know, their food on their plate and there's leftover

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food and then they have seasoning. Even myself, I just

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think my dog block and asked you, so.

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Yeah, well, when you stop and think anybody is doing

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turmeric because of the the compound nature of it, they're

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adding to their turmeric mixed blood pepper anyway, So what

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does it make a difference whether it's with tumor It

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matter whether it was with turmeric or meat.

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No, sort of piggybag off of that, we can talk

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about the salt. Adding salt to your dog food is

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usually a no no, it's a myth. But then again,

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as long as it has eighty four to ninety one mineral.

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Right exactly the seasons of different very sea salts. Never

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any table salt though, because that's actually bad for us.

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Right, we too should not have table salt.

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It is the table salt, my friends, that is causing

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your high blood pressure and all the let's get into that.

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The prepackaged foods that we're buying not me, but you

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that's not me. Let's clarify that that.

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You know everyone except us, we're not doing that. So,

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you know, do you want to answer the question?

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Sure, I can do that. You know, we'll carry We'll

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try to do as many as we can as we

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go along. My dog eats raw food, very little kibble,

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and I can't regulate her bowel movements in a one

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month like thick mashed potatoes. What can I do? And

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I tried probiotics and I think it got worse. First,

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there is no perfect poop. All poop is perfect. It's

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supposed to be soft, and it's going to be regulated

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by what the dog ate, different digestion levels, different absorption levels,

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fighting disease, because you got to remember that that poop

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is also taking out dead blood cells, cancer cells, you know,

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scar tissue, all this other stuff. That's not just about

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regulating it through food. We've been taught that because veterinarians

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want to control, and pet food companies want to control

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and give you a specialty diet with a higher price tag.

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In the wild, they eat what they what they want.

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Most of the time it looks like diarrhea, but it's

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really not. Sometimes you'll get a little bit of a

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lot of mucus because of all the chemicals, long chemicals,

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household chemicals, all of that. But at the end, sometimes

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even with a with a normal with a normal stool

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where it's saw quite often at the very end of

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it it looks like diary what we could consider diarrhea,

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which is watery. But basically that's the self cleaning but

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that the dogs have, that's how they clean it. So

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hopefully answer to your question, well, she want to.

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Know if probiotics should be given or she's giving them,

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And that was my next myth that probiotics should not

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be given, they.

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Should be found naturally. That's what we're looking at. I know,

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just hard to pick up, and that's because, you know,

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prior to the nineteen seventies eighties, there were no pickup

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laws because with a natural diet, that poop just breaks

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down very quickly into the ground. The preservatives that they

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put into kibble, that poop would sit there for six

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months or more. And it was actually the dog food

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companies that proposed the pickup laws so that you would

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have to feed commercial food and have to pick up

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just carry around, you know, I mean, my dog poops

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so little. I can carry around the squirt bottle with

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me and just squirt it right down into the grass.

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Or if you live in the woods, you know like

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I do. But answer her question regarding the probiotics, probiotics

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are not needed. We don't need to buy supplements to

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give our pets because they're not productive, they're not.

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Effected, right, Yeah, it's just because they basically pasteurize all

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the probiotics, so ninety nine percent of what's in that

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bottle is dead. Yes, And if you do for probiotics,

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you can use like the juices from fermented vegetables, but

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my favorite is raw dairy you know, goat, smelk, cow's mouth, kifers, yogurts,

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things of that nature. As long as it's all raw

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and natural, no sugar's added.

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You can give it to your dog over their food.

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I give it to my cats over their food. It's

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really phenomenal. Again, I'm trying to go back over a

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few questions, so if you had missed our podcast from

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last week, please tune in because there is a lot

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of Burtnent information. Thank you for your question, ma'am. All

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lumps are cancer.

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Yes, we and and you know, even though they're not

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diagnosed as such, as soon as you see what happen,

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you know, treat it like it is because it's an

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abnormal growth. That's what cancer is, abnormal selves. So let's

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just take nip it in the butt as soon as

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you see the first symptom. And no dog should ever

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have to suffer from it, no person should ever have

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to suffer from it.

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Either a wet nose indicates your dog is healthy.

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Or a drinks very sloppy.

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So it's a good indicator.

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It's an indicator, you know, I mean, yes, I mean,

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you know, sometimes they'll have a you know, they will

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have nasal discharges, just like we do. You know that

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analogy was probably more correct fifty years ago when we

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didn't have a thousand kem trails and all this long

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stuff and everything else that they're sniffing in and just

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like you and I, irritates the eyes that goes into

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the nasal passage.

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Yes, allergy eyes.

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So if the dog's nose is warm, just.

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The body isself the body is actually self regulating. Well,

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don't worry too much about it. You know, fevers are

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a healing process, not a sickness problem.

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Exactly, just the body excreting all the toxics. Yes, exactly.

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Cutting the quick on a pet's nails will end up

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we'll have you resulting or going to the emergency room

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or the vets office. Should we panic bill when we

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cut the quick? If we can even cut the dog's nails.

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If you cut into the quick, that's a blood vessel,

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you will get bleeding. There is no nerve inside that

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blood vessel though, or associated with it until you get

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high up into the nail. So you know, if you

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let the dog's nails get too long and you cut

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into that quick to keep them short, you know, we

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panic more than the dog does.

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Also, all the commercial emphasize, oh my goodness, if you

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cut the quick, and then that's how they sell you

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all these different products too. Yes, cut the dog's nails

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or the cat's nails. So that's where that comes from.

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We didn't have a chance to speak about a really

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sad topic last week, but I thought I should bring

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it up, ethanasia. What's your take, youth in Asia? People say,

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you know, should do it.

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Is a miss.

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It's a horrible process. And the reason what they've done

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is over the years they've perfected a way of making

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it look peaceful. But how they do this is by

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heavily sedating the dog in the first place, because if

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you just gave them the phoeno barbaratol that they normally use,

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the dog would go into convulsion, throw up, poop all

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over themselves, pee all over themselves, and actually be in

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agonizing pain. So if I give you enough drugs to

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knock you down, it's going to look peaceful. However, it's

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still a forced death, and the animal can sense that

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because as soon as you start messing with them on

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any kind of even sedation or anything of that nature,

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it's traumatic. The ideal situation is, obviously, when it's their

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time to pass, they should be at home with their

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loved ones and you know, go to sleep naturally, and

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that's the most peaceful way.

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Sometimes with accidents or rear very serious injuries, we have

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to do something else. But for the most part, death

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should be a natural process, not an artificial one.

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And if I may add to that, I lost my

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sixteen year old Shitsu a year ago, and he was

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in pretty bad shape for a few days, and I

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just kept praying, I kept giving him the energy, I

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kept putting my hands on him, I kept praying and

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using my energy and I and I told him, I said, Joey,

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I'm allowing you to go. I'm allowing you to go.

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And he held on. But then when I said that,

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he was able to actually release, and he did. He

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passed on a Sunday, which was great because I didn't

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want to take him.

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I was hesitating, yes and yeah, and that's that's that's

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a part of it is your energy. I mean, if

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you will, if you let him know that it's finded.

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They will if there it's not their time. And they've

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been really, really sick. I have seen so many of

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them just turn right around and picked themselves up because

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they don't want to leave. And they that's they're determined

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by their energy.

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He did that actually the day before he passed. I thought,

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oh my goodness, he's going to live again, you know,

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but that's.

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Usually what they do.

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So my next question, and I don't know how you

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feel about it, but kissing your pets on the lips

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will make you so sick.

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me with. First thing, last week with a Slamnilla is

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not adapts obviously for the you know, for for unless

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you unless you're dying yourself. I mean it's you know,

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but are there germs passive back and forth? Absolutely, your

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dog does licks, but you might want to take that

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into consideration. But you know, to each their own.

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So I can still kiss my dogs on the lips.

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If you want to.

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If dogs exercise, like if they have a backyard, do

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they need to still take a walk?

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exercise walking in of course, is time with your dog

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more than anything else. You know, if you just open

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the door, let them run around in the you know,

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it's just like kids, they'll get bored. You know, it's

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not They're not getting any more exercise. Really, for the

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most part, they do need some that you know, they're

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a pack animal. They need interaction with each other. And

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of course, if you only have one or two dogs

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in the family, you're you're the major portion of the pack.

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So it's up to you to do that.

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Yes, I do forty five minutes daily. If you don't

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see fleas, they don't exist.

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Okay, you're in agreement with that.

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prevents cancer.

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Anytime you remove a body part, it's going to remove

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the risk of cancer on that body part. And I

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think I also mentioned that I often suggest to veterinarians

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that are suggesting that, first of if there's no such

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thing as extra body parts, it needs all of them

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in order to maintain that whole endocrine system, because it

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is a system. But uh as I suggest the veterinarians,

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if you know I don't, I will never want you

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to ever get lung cancer. So let's remove your lungs.

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You know the consequences of that.

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Parks and shelters and places where we bring our pets,

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you know when we go on vacation, they're safe places, right.

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They are very similar to what we call factory farm operations.

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You know, you're concentrating a lot of animals in a

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small area. Sanitation is a problem. Parasites can be a

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problem in order of course, and you know, with especially

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with dog parks and things like that, everybody wants them

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to look clean and sterile. So the chemical intervention is

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extreme on those places, and so you know you need

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you know, if you do do if you have to

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feel the need that you have to, like on boarding situations,

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stuff like that. You know, make sure that you're on

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a major you know, detox program because are going to

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need it.

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Vaccines, cause seizures.

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Yep, I know you one of one of one of many,

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and any anything that's toxic.

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Okay, and just as a lots before the break, I

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know you're going on toxins. I mentioned it last week.

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I'm mentioning it again. What you clean your house with,

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what you wash your clothes with, all of that is

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toxic to us. It's toxic to our babies who are

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on the floor, our pets.

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It's all chemicals and.

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We need Yeah, it's all. It's all part of that

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overall thing. You have to look you know, because we're

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looking at the body being a system, we have to

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look at cleaning the environment as a system just as well.

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Healthier and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the

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show where your Pet's voice. This has build a Pet

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Health Gurul with my health coach Michelle, and we're going

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over there's a lot of myths. She I think you

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pretty much wrapped up what we did last week in

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a kind of condensed fashion. We're going to go on

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to a bunch of new stuff again. We want you

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to share this, like it and subscribe, and of course

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the chat room is open. Go ahead. We've had some

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great questions so far, so Michelle take it over.

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Well, as you said, we spoke about pet myths, but

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there's also people myths, and I want you to be

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able to help the population the audience with all of

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these strange myths. And like our first one, all calories

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are created equal. And just to say before we talk

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about that, as a health coach, I don't believe in

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counting calories. I think you're her yourself. If you're standing

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or sitting there all day, I got one hundred. I mean,

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if you're good in math, it's great, but it's detrimental. Ahead, Bill,

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what would you like to say about all calories are

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created equal myth or not?

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Oh? Yes, it's a myth, I mean. And the other thing,

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you know, obviously because you we don't. While we burn calories,

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which is a measure of energy, our whole body needs

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a ton of different energies, different vibrational energies, and every

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food has its own signature, and it's important that we

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have that combination because in order to balance a body.

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You know, if you looked at exercise alone, Okay, if

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i walk five thousand steps today and seven thousand tomorrow

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and I'm on a two thousand restricted diet of fifteen

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hundred calories, I am out of balance.

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Right.

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There's no way you can be in balance because your

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body is going to tell you what you need. And

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now on top of that, you're adding the stress factor,

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the number one cause of all disease. So why would

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we want to add stress an ingredient to disease? Disease?

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Disease?

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I mean, does that make any sense? And I agree

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with you one hundred percent, Michelle, Well, you know.

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What it is built.

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It's the government, it's the American Art Association, it's the

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Diabetes Association. They're all feeding the public and telling them

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that they need to count calories in order to lose weight.

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And the reason they do that, it's not because it's

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serving person, it's serving the industry of you know, food products.

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So I'll give you an example.

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Let's say you go to the store and you buy

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a twelve ounce cana of coca cola. Right, that's about

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I don't know how many I looked it up. It

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was one hundred and forty calories, right, one hundred and

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forty calories. That does not equate to one serving of broccoli,

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which is about thirty to forty calories. But people don't

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seem to see that. They think, okay, if I have

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one hundred and forty calories of soda, then I can

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skip something else. But it's causing soda. People, please listen up.

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This is my pet peeve. Soda is causing inflammation. It

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causes cancer, causes heart disease, it causes all of the

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things that we just do not need, you know, and diabetes,

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heart trouble. People are wondering why they're having heart attacks

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and they're ingesting sugar.

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Sugar. Sugar.

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Sugar is a ton of that, and of course that's

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the whole thing, is when you know, when you look

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at sugar as a whole, because it's in so many

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products we don't we can't count at all because even

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on a package, and we did a whole show on

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ingredients and mislabeling and stuff like that, sugar has approximately

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I think twenty or twenty five different names exactly, and

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some of them sound healthy, you know, they just aren't.

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And even honey, we can talk forever on this subject

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because there's so much. Yeah, and I have a lot,

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so it's all right, But honey, even though it's healthier, honey,

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what does she say.

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Yes, ella, sugar? Should I be feeding my dog row?

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How much she weighs?

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Yeah? Yeah, I mean the food raw deer. Yeah, the

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raw meat dying is absolutely the best. How much should

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you feed? It depends on how active they are. I know,

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you see charts all over the place, you see recipes

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all over the place. You know the eighty ten ten

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and the you know, a fifty pound dog should eat

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a pound. I know my own dog. You know, one

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day she'll eat a pound, she's about forty pounds. Next

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day she'll finish that pound, and we'll get me like,

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are you going to give me more?

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Please?

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And then you know, two days later, I put down

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the pound and she'll only eat three quarters of it.

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Because it depends on what they need eat the food

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thatth presented. That's why we do a rotational diet as well,

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because every food brings different nutrients to the table, and

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the nutrients are the most important thing. It's not about calories,

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as we said before, It's about the nutrients. What does

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this animal need today? Are they building muscle? Are they

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building skeleton? Are they building rebuilding a gut? Because of

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bad you know chemicals. Are we detoxifying? Are we fighting cancer? Diabetes?

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You know, even dementia. I mean, we we're seeing more

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and more cases of dementia and dug But you know,

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but because they're not as verbal as our parents and

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our grandparents, we don't see that cognizant decline until the

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dogs starts walking into the walls and the doors and

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things of that nature. So you know, we want to

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avoid all that. We want to prevent it as much

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as we can, and we can do that primarily through nutrition.

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To piggyback into answer her question, your dog is your

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best guide. Your dog will tell you if it's hungry

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00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:06.319
or not.

479
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:07.640
At least mine do.

480
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.440
I don't know, maybe they all do.

481
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.000
You're they're human, I don't know. But to get back

482
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.799
to our all calories equal, as we said, even in

483
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.519
pet food, they're not, they're just not that. The trick

484
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.359
is just to stay away from the trans fats, you know,

485
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:24.680
all the all the.

486
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.559
Anything, synthetic anything, ultra process, yes.

487
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:33.720
Ultra process and going into fast food. Listen, we're not perfect.

488
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.039
Nobody's perfect. We all go off the vandwagon, we all

489
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.759
do things, we all eat things. It just has to

490
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.960
be consistency, you know, every day you don't have to

491
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.359
eat the same thing. Like you said, with the pets

492
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.000
rotational diet, we too need a rotational diet so that

493
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.160
our foods are well balanced, so that our nutrients that

494
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:58.319
we receive is well balanced. And to mention with foods,

495
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.519
mister Bill here also has the foods at his place

496
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.359
which I eat and love. I get the salmon, I

497
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.559
get all of that, So you should try that as well.

498
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.079
Anything you'd like to add about quality foods, Bill, anything

499
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:12.880
you invention.

500
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.119
It's funny you mentioned that because I saw one of

501
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.359
my I saw in my archives I was doing some

502
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.200
research that we did a whole podcast. I think this

503
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.200
is back and my radio days, that the quality is

504
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:35.200
just as important as what selection there is. And to

505
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.079
be honest, most people think that beef is beef is

506
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.000
beef is beef, and chicken is chicken, and chicken and chicken. No,

507
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.000
there are so many grades of it. You have to

508
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.200
look at what that animal was consuming while it was growing,

509
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.519
what kind of drugs, chemicals and interventions were involved in it.

510
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.200
All these take a toll on the quality. So we

511
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.720
want to get the most naturally raised meats. Same thing

512
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.839
with even plant material. You know, we don't want to

513
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.240
do modern day vegetables because the energy isn't there, the

514
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.599
nutrients aren't there, and you know, so many of them

515
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.079
are raised on fact, you know again factory farms, but

516
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:17.640
the factory is plants instead of livestock, and they're very,

517
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.880
very deplete in minerals. And minerals are one of the

518
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.960
most important things that we have to look at because

519
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.279
we are you know, so many of the diseases are

520
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.240
because of mineral imbalances. And if you take a supplement,

521
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.319
that doesn't mean you're getting that mineral most cases is

522
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.519
in the wrong form. Body can't use it, and actually

523
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.480
you throw off all the rest of that balance.

524
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.359
Well, our soils are depleted of minerals. So people automatically think, well,

525
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.319
I'll take a supplement and that supplement will help increase

526
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.720
my mineral absorption, which is not true because the supplements,

527
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.799
as you have said it multiple times, the supplements don't

528
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.079
go ahead, finish my sentence, got hat.

529
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.559
They're not natural, they're synthetic. And the body, the body

530
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:05.480
can only use what it recognizes, and it's designed by

531
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:09.240
divine design to recognize natural stuff.

532
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.440
But I suggest the herbs, I suggest herb.

533
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.279
Well, there's a natural form. And of course herbs are

534
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.200
ancient plants, they've been around. They're usually raised on small

535
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.359
regenerative farms, so they're going to have the highest mineral

536
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:29.039
content compared to you know, our commercial vegetables that are

537
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.720
given essentially three three minerals nutrients.

538
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.839
I love. What I love about the herbs is that

539
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.039
I take the herbs and I give them to my

540
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:43.119
pets as well, so we're all on the same regiment.

541
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.880
So it's pretty easy. It's a simple thing that I

542
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:51.200
do every day, like routine every day. Healthy foods, you know,

543
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.559
pasture raised eggs, grass fed, grass finished beef. But it

544
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:58.759
has to be the beef that we're talking about is

545
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.640
not beef that has been and said, we're not even

546
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.880
talking about grains. I did some homework and I found

547
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.640
out that the beef that they're selling to butcher box

548
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.880
and all those places online, they're selling you beef that

549
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:17.839
has been fed barley, molasses, different sugars. So we don't

550
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.400
even know unless you know.

551
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:23.079
Things like vegetable oil, corn oil, soybean oil. And then

552
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.079
the labeling law was misleading because it was run it

553
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.839
was basically lobbied very heavily by the cattlemen and the

554
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.119
livestock producers because they need this stuff to fatten their

555
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:41.480
their animals quickly. To make more money. And this is

556
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.200
where the whole thing starts. I mean, when we looked

557
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:44.799
at that list, you and I looked at that list

558
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.400
and the high fructose corn, syrupt of vegetable oil. Aren't

559
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.440
these things that we were trying to eliminate in our diet.

560
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.480
And they're feeding it to our livestock.

561
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.240
Right, And that is of course we're eating it as well.

562
00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:01.359
So I like clean. We have a minute, Yes, so

563
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.960
I do. Eating fat makes.

564
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.720
You fat depends on the form, you know. And again

565
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.720
I can go right back to the beef analogy. When

566
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:17.480
we feed our cattle, our bison, our sheep, nothing but forage,

567
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.000
that fat converts into omega threes and nines, which are

568
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.079
the healthy you know, amino acids which are going to

569
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.680
build our body. When I feed them oats, corn, soybean,

570
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:35.200
any type of grain, that fat becomes omega six, and

571
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.319
now we have inflammation going on throughout the whole body.

572
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.759
That's why so many people have trouble digesting what I

573
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.880
basically consider like supermarket meat, because that's how that is

574
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.079
all raised. Then supermarkets want a consistent looking product, a

575
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.920
consistent tasting product, because when we get into the wild stuff,

576
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.160
which is all the grass finished completely grass finished stuff.

577
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.920
It's going to have a stronger taste, and it tastes

578
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.359
going to vary depending on the season, the breed of cattle,

579
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.960
and what they were eating. And so no two steaks

580
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.960
are ever going to belike. Supermarkets don't want pet, you know.

581
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.240
So that's that's the problem.

582
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:15.480
We need to focus on just our healthy fats. What's

583
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your take, gius seeds, flock seeds.

584
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And you know, and most of those again secondary we're

585
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going to talk more about that after we come back

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613
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we were mentioning oils and you know you and I

614
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.360
have had some recent discussions along with other professionals that

615
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:44.039
seed oils, all seed oils have issues. And you know

616
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.639
when you look at what do you how can you

617
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.760
make avocado oil. How do you make you know, any

618
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.840
of the seed oils, it's you know, a whole chemical

619
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.559
process that goes along with it. Even if it's supposedly

620
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.400
cold pressed, they still have to do other things to

621
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.559
keep it from breaking down and oxidizing. And that's the

622
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.159
biggest thing to turn it ramsid. Now when you look

623
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:15.639
at the natural oils, lard, callow, butter, Oh what's involved

624
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.880
in that. Let's see butter. You take the cream, you

625
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.840
do nothing to it. You put it in a mixing bowl.

626
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.199
I think I think somebody tried that. I love it,

627
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.719
and you turned it on. The hardest part is you

628
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.679
have to watch so you turn it off when when

629
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.320
it gets hard. Lard they follow you.

630
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.320
Wait, let me explain. You get your mixer. I have

631
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.719
a nice, beautiful one of those whatever they call it, mixer,

632
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.639
and I put in what was it, the cream, and

633
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:48.320
I mixed it.

634
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.480
I was so amazed. It was like a little kid.

635
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.480
I was like, oh my god, I have butter and

636
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.360
I love it. A inch of salt.

637
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:59.639
Yeah. But it's funny, you know, on the lard and

638
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.960
on the tells the same way, you're just taking the

639
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.719
animal fat. You're putting it in to a pot, rendering

640
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.119
it down, and all three of those types of fats

641
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:17.960
can be left on your countertop indefinitely without preservatives.

642
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:19.239
It's beautiful. You know.

643
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:24.440
I no longer use olive oil or avocado oil or

644
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.280
any oil because of the tallow because of the butter,

645
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.079
the raw butter, I don't use it. And I'll just

646
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.320
tell you, you know, I did my homework as well, and

647
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.079
the things I heard about the olive oil. Here we

648
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.519
are thinking olive oils or olive oil is so fabulous.

649
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.559
You know, by the time it gets into the bottle

650
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.159
and onto the truck, and how long it's been in

651
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.360
that bottle.

652
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:48.760
We have no idea.

653
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.920
And then when we were pouring it on our food,

654
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.039
it's been contaminated. It has extra oils in there that

655
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.079
we don't even know. It's been mixed with all different oils.

656
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.800
Vegetable oil. We spoke about that.

657
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.760
Remember, Yeah, times I use for a little and for machines.

658
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.360
So I just don't want to put that in my body.

659
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.159
Why do I want to put fake oils in my body?

660
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:14.239
I do not. Well.

661
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.599
The other thing, just just to let people know that

662
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.280
almost all seed oils in order to extract it out

663
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.920
of the seed they have to use industrial solvents, which

664
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.880
are things like hexxane and you know, different alcohols and

665
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.039
that sort of thing. So your chemical even though an

666
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.800
avocado can be healthy, by the time you add the

667
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.239
chemicals to it, do you think that do you think

668
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.079
it's the same thing?

669
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:37.559
You know?

670
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.599
And that again a lot of people they don't use

671
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.320
as they brought up in the beginning of the show

672
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:43.360
common sense.

673
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.280
But if you could take an avocado, smash it in

674
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.920
a blunder and mix, I don't know, just mix a

675
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:52.000
little bit of what was it, like lemon juice and

676
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.440
you know, make your own, create things by yourself. Don't

677
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.480
get intut of bottles or boxes.

678
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:02.840
Were Yeah, at that point you're just using that's not

679
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.159
a seed oil though, but that's just using the natural

680
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.360
oils that are in the avocado. Like if you why

681
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.159
do we my that? My question has always been like

682
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.760
I used to sell tons of salmon oil and sardine

683
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.400
oil when when we were in the dry food business

684
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.119
because we needed a fatty acids. And when we got

685
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.679
all the way over on raw it was like I've

686
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.440
got salmon, I've got sardines. Why do I have to

687
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:31.039
add oil to what's already in the diet. Yes, I

688
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.440
mean that is, you know, in the most natural form exactly.

689
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.239
So everything we eat to be in the most natural form.

690
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.679
We need to live on the Amish farm and live

691
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.559
there and roll right. When I take people as a

692
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.880
health coach, I take people food shopping, and it's amazing

693
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:49.199
to me.

694
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:50.559
I always tell we have to.

695
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.880
Go around the store, the perimeter of the store because

696
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:54.880
the inside of the.

697
00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:01.360
Floor there's no food. In the middle, let's poison, right.

698
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.039
But even the produce section we were talking about, we

699
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:06.039
can't even by that.

700
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:07.800
Like we spoke about blueberries.

701
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.079
You know, I love blueberries, and you can't buy blueberries because.

702
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.159
They're not from our country.

703
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.599
They're not in season, so we're not getting the nutrients

704
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.199
that we should be getting at that particular moment in time.

705
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:26.480
So it's difficult for the average consumer to go shopping nowadays.

706
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.480
And if they listen to us, they're not going to

707
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.079
want to go shopping. They're going to be like, I

708
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.360
can't buy anything. We're not saying that. Let's make it clear.

709
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.559
I'm not saying go shopping and don't buy anything. I'm

710
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.840
saying try to buy things that were made in the

711
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.199
United states, homegrown in your own state if possible. If not,

712
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.159
would you suggest they'd buy frozen if they could, like

713
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.239
frozen blueberries if.

714
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.519
They But yeah, I mean, you know, and you know,

715
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.639
in a time before well at least before you, I mean,

716
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.840
I lived through part of it where my parents, you know,

717
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.559
we grew a lot of our own foods. In season.

718
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.039
We would go to the real farmers' markets where the

719
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you know, the actual farmer showed up with his commodity.

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We'd buy enough for the season and we would spend

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days and days and days either canning or freezing, and

722
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you know that's what we lived on when things were

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not in season. So you know, you know, commercial can stuff,

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of course, is highly processed. Again, and so much of

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that is because the government gets involved in everything, and

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you know the process, and you're over paying for it

727
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because you're paying for the regulation as well.

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Well.

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Being that you grew up on a farm bill and

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had that ability to do all of that, that's a

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testament to your great health today.

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You know, it helped, It helped, I'll tell you, and

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more so, more correctly, yeah, more so than just the

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nutrient levels stuff like that, But it's a mindset it's

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a mindset.

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Well, speaking of mindset, I won't I won't put I

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won't take on any clients that don't have the mindset

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that they're ready and that takes a while.

739
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That takes a while.

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So you get time here for probably one more question

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before this. I mean, I don't know where the hours

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go and we're done.

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Oh my goodness, I have so much more.

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Just to let you know, when you go shopping, please

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look at labels.

746
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Please, I'm begging you.

747
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If it has more.

748
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This is my myth.

749
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.480
People think if it has five ingredients or ten ingredients,

750
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it's it's okay, it's not the least ingredients. The better,

751
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.639
you know, we want less ingredients.

752
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:45.280
We don't.

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00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.159
We don't want to read a label and it says

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something we've never heard of.

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We don't.

756
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We have to be able to understand what we're putting

757
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.800
in our bodies. And if you can't read it, that

758
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.559
should tell you. That should be a perfect indicator. If

759
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.760
the ingredients on there are paragraph long, please put it back.

760
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:03.519
Well, you.

761
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.559
Keep it simple. You don't. We don't need all that

762
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stuff in there. We just you know, you know, we

763
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.840
don't need artificial colors. We don't need artificial flavors we

764
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.360
don't need, you know, and they don't label them as that.

765
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.880
Obviously it all label is natural, but they're really.

766
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.320
Not is not true.

767
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.199
No things like low fat we're fat free, please stay

768
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.480
away from those. They're loaded with sugar, sodium, anything that's

769
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.039
fat free. They're adding extra ingredients that we don't need.

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And I know we don't have much time, so I

771
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.159
really want to focus on what our friends here should

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00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.480
be eating and what they should avoid, and they should

773
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.159
avoid at all costs if you want to avoid disease,

774
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:56.320
fried foods, fake processed, ultra processed foods, gluten, and I

775
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.960
know you and I disagree a little bit on the oils,

776
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.760
but no more, no oils for me. So if you

777
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can remember those four four foods, you know, get rid

778
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.360
of them. They're not even foods gluten like, tell them

779
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:10.119
about gluten.

780
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.079
Gluten is yeah, and the classification just because we're gonna

781
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.480
be we're gonna be ending here as soon. But gluten

782
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:21.119
is in is not that group of grains that they

783
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.719
label as such. It's very limited. Basically, almost all starches

784
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.840
contain gluten because even things like potatoes, yeah, exactly, and

785
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.760
that's exactly what it does to your body is six

786
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to it. So Michelle, how can people reach you if

787
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:36.360
they want your coaching expertise?

788
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.920
Please reach me on Facebook if you are on there,

789
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.719
I'm on Michell and Reggaev. I also have another site

790
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.159
all start tutoring in case you see that, and my

791
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.719
numbers there, all my infos there. It's been a pleasure, Bill,

792
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.800
Thank you again so much. I enjoy coming on and

793
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helping people. Do not pick up foods containing about yes, yes, yes.

794
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.519
Yeah absolutely, but you know, it's always a pleasure to

795
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.159
have you on. I mean you add a different dynamic

796
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.119
to my show, which is which is nice. I mean

797
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.239
I feel like I'm no longer just lecturing people. I

798
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:16.239
mean we're actually answering real questions and with with you know,

799
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with that being said, of course I can be reached

800
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through my paleopath, through pet Health Cafe, pet Health Guru.

801
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:26.559
Uh and of course my Facebook page is Bill Pie

802
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.880
since I did have the pleasure of being taken down

803
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:34.079
because of what I speak about. Uh, so you know,

804
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.800
join us, join us in this, join us in this community,

805
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.039
share it so we can build a community of healthy people.

806
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.519
And with that being said, Michelle, the pleasure, good night,

807
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.440
and good night to everybody that was listening to us.

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Thank you very much.

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