Aug. 28, 2025
There Is Always More To Learn

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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet
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Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice.
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And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, And
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welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
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Pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru,
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and I got another exciting show for you tonight. I
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got a great guests on tonight. As always, I want
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you to go on and share this with everybody that
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you can right now, so that we get lots of
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views and lots of lots of eyes on this program.
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Like it and subscribe to it so you never miss
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another one. Our chat is open so you can ask questions.
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And this is kind of a follow up from what
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we did last week where we were talking about experts
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in the field. How do you pick your experts? And
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I decided to go out and find one And at
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this time I want to introduce Michelle Rogev Health Coach
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teacher extraordinaire. Do we have her? Run here she comes?
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How you doing, Michelle?
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Good evening, everybody, good evening, Dale, and thank you so
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much for having me on. This is really the lighting
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to educate your audience.
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Yes, you know, as I introduced we last week, we
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were talking about experts and that sort of thing. And
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you've got such a diverse background, being that you've been
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a longtime client of my Paleo peties to pet Deli
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you know, a i've got to say, probably an extreme
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pet lover a and of course you've got other things
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that over the years we've discovered about you being a
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fantastic teacher, and for a long time I didn't really
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realize that you were a health coach and this was
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really what struck me, when you know, after talking about
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the experts and things like this, this is an important
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part of it, especially with if you can bring into
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the conversation of course, the fact that you're an educator
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and there's no better time to start our kids on
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a healthy lifestyle than when their kids is there.
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Absolutely So not to alvers step and talk too much,
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but yes, I've been an educative for thirty six years now.
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I'm dating myself.
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And when I first started, I didn't think about educating
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people about health.
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Although I've always.
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Been my own special health guru. I've always loved health
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since my sister at the age of four, became a diabetic.
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And that's fifty years ago. So if you could understand,
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my dad owned a candy store and my sister had
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become diabetic. So we why, well, it wasn't it had
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nothing to do with the candy thought that, you know,
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But she became diabetic and the whole family we were
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banned from the store, which is ironic, I know, but
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we grew up knowing how to eat. We grew up
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knowing better. We were not allowed. You know, we could have,
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but we didn't delve into it, and you know, it
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wasn't our whole meal. So I became an educator thirty
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six years ago. As I mentioned, I was a French teacher,
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and then from a French teacher, right, I have got
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everyone from adults, high school, middle school, elementary, you name it,
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I've caught it English, as I said, another language. But
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twelve years ago when I really decided, after taking care
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of my dad would diabetes and his health failing, and
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then my daughter coming home from school with major anxiety
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and doctors wanting to put tubes down her throat. I decided, yeah,
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that I had enough. I was going to school and
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I was going to study and educate myself so that
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I could not only help my family, but help the
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people around me. So in a nutshell, teaching and seeing
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how the children were eating, seeing how the children were acting,
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seeing how the poor teachers were responding to these actions
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of the children, Seeing how teachers weren't taking care of themselves.
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That's what really catapulted.
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Me into becoming a health coach, because all I want.
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To do is help everybody that work all I want
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to do.
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It's interesting, can you describe it kind of like I
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describe doctors. I mean, you know, you're looking for help.
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You go to the doctor and they're overweight. You know,
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they're dying at fifty years old, you know, and they're
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telling you what you should be doing. Why aren't they
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doing it themselves?
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And it really bothers me.
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You know, great teachers put pouring their hearts out to
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these kids, but they're not taking care of themselves.
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You know, I still work.
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In the school system. I still love children. At for
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thirty six years, I still have a passion for them.
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And one thing that's changed throughout the years is I
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don't go in with I don't have that negative vibe.
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I always have a positive vibe. Kids want to be
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around me. When I have a classroom, I make it
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fun and exciting. I want children to know what love is,
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and I teach through love. And when I say that,
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I go through the whole mindfulness thing. I teach them
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how to do their mindful breathing, how to mindfully eat. Unfortunately,
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getting back to our foods in the Catholic ceia, I
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was just a talk thick day.
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When I saw they now have soda.
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And it's not only soda, it's why it's soda for children, with.
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That great with that great additive, all those great additives
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that are synthetic. Yeah, let's see how badly we cans
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best things up.
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You know.
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I was researching and it's one in thirty one children
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today have autism. One and nine have been diagnosed with
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abd ADHD. And yet when the kids finish eating breakfast
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and lunch, they go back to the classroom. And I'm
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in classrooms all day long. I have about ninety five kids,
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so I walk in all day long. I see what's
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going on, and these children are some of them are
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offful well.
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And if we don't attribute any of this to food,
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we're wrong. We're absolutely wrong.
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You know, the foods that we're feeding our children negatively
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impact not only the kid's help, the parents, help the
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teacher self.
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It's all full circle, and it's just a falling.
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And it exappens me, you know, because my lifedition is
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to help people eat better.
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It really is.
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And it's not only pul I am also, as you said,
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a pet advocate, and I want anyone to be well.
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Well, that's the thing we I talk about a lot
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on the show. And of course you know the pro
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the ultra process, you know, dog foods and cat foods
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that everybody that it's about about eighty seven eighty five
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percent of the pet population gets fed this garbage on
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a regular basis. And we have the same behavioral problems
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as you know with dogs casts and of course not
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only behavioral problems but also the same health problems. Now
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I see more cancer in a month than I did
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in a year fifteen years ago. I see diabetic, I
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see you know the skin problems you've gone, you've experienced
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some of those with your own animals. It's the bodies
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constantly trying to detoxify itself. And then we add in cleaners,
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and we add in additives and you know, uh so
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called supplements, and of course all the food dyes. That's
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in both sides of it. I mean I heard one
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commentator talking about that's a regenerative farmer, and that the
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lunchables that are available costs like seventeen dollars a pound.
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You could buy a lot of organic chicken, a lot
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of organic vegetables and feed these kids for like a
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quarter of that, couldn't you?
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And blue the blue dye jella that feeding them the
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Baba hydrate, breakfast of cereal and and syrup, and then
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they wonder, oh, this child's in the office again. I
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don't know why it's often related. Of course, you know,
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there's that controversy whether or not it's unetics some of
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it maybe, I don't know. You know, well, I know
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for fact to the culture.
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Well you know, when we're looking at when you're looking
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at the food and the kids too. I mean it
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stops pre it starts pre natal. I mean, if mom
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had a bad diet, if mom had was taking a
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lot of medications both legal and illegal, and even going
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back to grandmam, all that travels through the bloodstream into
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the into the baby before they ever born, and basically
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they're already trapped. And then of course you and I know,
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because we've talked about it, what they do with and
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we don't talk about the special procedure that they do
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to babies within hours sometimes uh, you know, sticking in them.
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That's that can't be healthy in any way, shape or form.
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And of course, you know you obviously you work in
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the government with the school district. You know, I say
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a lot more than I can than you can, but
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it's it's just compounding the problem with just stacking one
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problem on top of the next problem on top of
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the next problem. And then you was being on the
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front line being a teacher.
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And the front line.
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Yeah, you're you're, you're you're like, I don't know if
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you remember when all this stuff happened, and what was
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in twenty twenty you had the frontline doctors. I mean,
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you're one of the frontline educators. That's you know, and
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that's basically where it has to start, doesn't it.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, you were saying, just to go figure back
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off of what you were saying when moms are pregnant.
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What about the environmental.
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Talk, what about the streaming products that pinning with and ingesting.
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You know, they've done studies and I have to study.
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If anyone's actually interested, I'll send it to you. Studies
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about how the toxic chemicals are just as that is,
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having smoked active packages of cigarettes over.
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The last twenty years. One cancer.
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We they wanted to tell you, if you don't mind
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my pet, I have two dogs right now. I have
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an American Bully and I had a Golden Doodle and
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before that, I had a Shitzu. My ships are passed
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the creature of almost sixteen.
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Thanks to Bill and your food. He was easing up
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until the day.
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Because but prior to that, I was still pointing because
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he was messing up and everything, and I like everything cleaning.
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I was doing the flora.
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I was doing all those things, and you know what,
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I was getting the sinus infections, the allergies, and I
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just keep repeat think the same process.
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And that's what people are doing.
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They're using the fabul though or they're smelling all the
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chemicals and they keep the repeating it over and over again.
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Yeah, my died.
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I was able to change those products.
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You know, it's funny. I don't know. I hate it
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when people advertise other products, even bad products, because it's that.
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But they actually did a study many years ago with
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these no rinse cleaners, and that's the biggest part of
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it that we you know, we're mopping our floors, we're
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cleaning our floors, and we don't take the chemicals back off,
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which means if you mop your floor, you know, once
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a week, that's fifty two layers of chemicals every year
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that are on that floor. And they actually went by
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what the standard was. Look, you know, you don't go
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walk on it, don't do anything on it until it's dried.
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And they actually did a test where they did that.
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They put an infant on the floor and within forty
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three seconds they were finding traces of that chemical inside
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the botto just through absorption through the skin. I mean
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it's Hodous's live. Yeah, it's so so it was it
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was the problems with your father and of course your
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daughter that led you into the health coaching. Uh Arena,
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I know, it's it's uh, it's a tough way to
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do to do business because everything's one on one and
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people just they they don't see they can't justify the
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value in your time and your expertise. They want it,
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but they're just they don't have money. And doing groups
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is tough because you you know, even when we look
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at doing like myself, when I try to do an event,
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you know, you have to rent the venue, you have
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to have you know, everything by standard, you know, permits,
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everything like that. It's a tough challenge, isn't it.
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It's tough.
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But those who want me, you know, those who have
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changed their mindset and they're ready, for example, maybe to
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lose the weight, because it's a mindset. It's not just hey,
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