Oct. 2, 2025
Tables Turned... Pet Health Guru Interviewed

Learn the story and the insight into the history and winding road behind the Pet Health Guru's journey in the animal health arena. A 60-year journey that illustrates the ancient wisdom and understanding of the physiology and natural healing processes.
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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. Lynn, Now it's time for Pet Health
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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
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Bill the Pet Health Guru.
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Good evening and welcome to Pet Health Cafe where your
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Pet has a Voice. And no, Bill's not on tonight.
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Well baby, yes, I'll let you know later.
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Hi.
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My name is Michelle Regev and I'm a holistic health
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and wellness coach as well as an educator thirty six years.
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My passions lie in taking care of pets and their health,
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as well as taking care of the family's health as well.
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So my story is with Phil. I met him fifteen
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years ago. I was I am his customer, client, his coach,
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you name it. He's a really good friend and I
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am so intrigued by all of his stories that I
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said to him one day, I said, you know, if
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I'm intrigued by your stories and how Pet Health Cafe
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and my Palio pet came into existence. I met a
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lot of people would love to go on your journey
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of sixty years. It's just an incredible journey. He does
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not talk about it. He's very humble, selfless, and I
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want you to hear it straight out of the horse's mouth.
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Before I welcome in my good friend, Bill, I just
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want to remind you to like and share this podcast
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because we need our algorithms to go up, and we
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want to set the tone. We want to make this
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a mission. We want everybody to join us in sending
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to my own very power by the way, so please
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help us share, like and also chat with us. We'd
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love to engage in conversation. So without further ado, I'd
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love to introduce you to the one and only pet
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Help Duru bail himself.
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How are you doing, Michelle? Thank you for having me on.
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This is such a role reversal for me. It's like,
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you know, I once heard that you know when you
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when you have interviews like this where you turn over
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the controls of your own show, it's a risk, but
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I know this is going to be great.
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I just could not resist Bill having everybody know your story,
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because your story is unique, the true entrepreneur, I mean
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you've been in the field for sixty years. I mean,
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how many people from the test is such a thing.
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I mean when your testimonials on top of everything or
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just beyond comparison. So, without further ado Bell, I'd like
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you to share with everybody, how did you get started
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in your journey? How did what catapulted you into the
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field of animal science.
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Always been a pet lover, wildlife lover growing up, always
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had all kinds of pets, exotic animals, you know, wild animals,
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worked on farms, did a lot of other stuff. As
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you can tell. My little child here is yelling at
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me because she wasn't able to go out before the
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show because it was pouring rain here. That's I think
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what we had from technical difficulty. But anyway, I started
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out there. I went to college for animal sciences. I
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was going to become a veterinarian. Found out back in
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the seventies, early seventies, late sixties, early seventies that nobody
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went to veterinarians for health. That was basically you know,
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it was all about emergencies and things like that. Nature.
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Veterinarians weren't making very much money back then, and I
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got I got involved in the pet industry as a whole.
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I learned so much. I found I was teaching people
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that I didn't even know, you know, knew anything about it.
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And I worked with everything from tropical fish to exotic animals.
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Back then, we could have monkeys and skunks and raccoons,
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Quota Mundy's all that stuff, all the exotic birds. This
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was before the you know, the importation laws and everything
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else came out, so everything was available to us back
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then and work through management. Decided to go out on
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my own manufacturers rep finding good products to bring to
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marketplace and did that for twenty some years. Went into distribution.
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While I was a REP. I helped design a lot
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of products for the grooming industry, for the aquatic industry,
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just because I was the interest. I took in what owners,
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what professionals, what tools they needed to do a much
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better job because I watched when I was a kid,
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the dogs basically lived in the yard or in the garage,
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and they moved inside. You know, the first time I
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started selling doggy clothing, I thought that was the craziest
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thing in the world. At one point. In order to
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get when we had our reach, when we opened up
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my paleo pet twenty years ago, you couldn't even have
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pets in the mall let alone. Uh, you know, unless
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they were in a bag or that's which included all
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the big dogs. And at one point we ended up
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the big the biggest distributor on the East Coast of
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pets strollers, so that so that people could actually bring
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their dogs and cats into our store.
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And uh, one second, because I wanted them to know
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the way.
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You grew up in New York, right Buffalo. Yeah, I
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grew up in you know, the city where you see
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about two months of no snow.
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Grew up on a farm, right, Well.
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I grew up in the city, but we owned property,
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and so I spent all my summers on the farm.
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When I went to college, I ended up working on farms.
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I actually lived in an old farmhouse one while I
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was in college. Heated with a wood stove. You know,
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My my driveway was a half mile long. They actually
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had at during some of the snowstorm bulldozers in to
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get me out. That's how much snow there would be.
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And it was it was a unique experience, I mean
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it was really. It taught me a lot about life.
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It taught me a lot about you know, because basically
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I was looking at nature every day. I had to
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see how animals really lived. My miner wasn't wildlife management,
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so that was a plus as well. So I learned
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about wolves and I learned about what species appropriate diets were.
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In fact, when I moved on to the farm, UH,
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I called my father one one from the one pay
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phone in town because we didn't have cell phones back then,
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and I said I needed an extra fifty dollars on
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my allowance. And he said, like, well, what for? And
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I told him I said. He said, what kind of
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trouble did you get in? I said, I didn't get
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in trouble. He said, well, what do you need it for?
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I said, fencing And he said fencing? What what?
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What?
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What did you do? I said, well, I bought a heifer.
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I bought an angus heifer to start a breeding program.
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You know, what is the animal animal person supposed to do?
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So I started raising beef cattle and then got involved
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in I'll just say involved in in the trades.
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UH.
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Travel a lot call it. Veterinarians call that. Animal health
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professionals all over all of the actually all over the world.
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I mean I did several Boks to Europe and England,
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learned a lot about products. We found a lot of
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products there. I developed a lot of products for rumors.
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Like I said, everything from the tubs they used today
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that was my design. Different scissors, brushes, combs, all of
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that sort of thing, different shampoos. But I was always
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interested in the nutrition part of it, because when I
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would teach groomors, especially at the seminars, is that at
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the end of the day. And even back then we
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were still doing a lot of dry food, can food
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stuff like that, but at the end of the day
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they had the ultimate consumer on their table. They would
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had their hands on it, unlike a veterinarian, and you
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can see the structured problems. You can see the skin problems,
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the hair problems, all of that stuff. And I proceeded
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to try to educate them on proper care. And when
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the things the market changed back in two thousand and three,
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two thousand and four, it was like, okay, I had
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already talked as a rep. I talked with all the
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big boys, you know, big box scores, the big companies,
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everything else, and I threw the idea to them about
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fresh foods and they said it would never work, so
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I had to go and where I met you is
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in the in a flea market, but it was a
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big It was actually one of the biggest sea markets
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in the country. And I developed a deli with a
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real deli case, real products. I mean, we made this
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stuff ourselves, all from human great products. I mean I
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didn't see him at all because I wouldn't feed my
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animals what I wouldn't eat, and I love good, healthy food.
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Never thought it was a health nun.
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Well, because you're listening the whole. The thing that fascinates
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me so much is your intensity in going out and
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getting the best beef for our animals, for our friends,
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stuff at families. You go out, and that's what I
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want people to really hear, because you're not just a
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fly by night company.
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You've around. We've been doing this for twenty Yeah, we've
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been doing this for twenty years making the foods and stuff.
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But like I said, I'd like to eat good food.
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So when I was even a rep on the road,
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I would I would always eat at, you know, small
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family restaurants where they were doing home cooking, and it
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would be funny because I'd be actually taking customers out
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for dinner. And lunch and stuff like that. And I
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never looked at a menu, and everybody's studying the menu
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and everything else. And when they family came to take
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the orders, it's like, no, you didn't even pick up
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the menu. It's like, don't worry about me. I know
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what I want. And they're like, have you been here before? No,
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I've never been in this place before, and they're looking
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at me like very very strangely. And I would ask
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when a waiter finally came to a person came to me,
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I'd go like, what did the chef buy today? Fresh
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that he cooked for himself? And it was always give
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me that. And then everybody at the table would change
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their orders obviously because you know they weren't. But that
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wasn't me being a health person. It just was my
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good food. And so if I'm going to feed my
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pets the same thing, you know, I sought that stuff out.
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And of course, as we grew, I started to look
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for suppliers. You know, basically where we are today farm
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the table. I visited the farms, regenitive farming, things of
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that nature, and it was you.
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Need to you know, say it again. I want to
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go and you actually visit the farms.
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Yes, we visit the farms. I see how they're taking
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how the animals are not only cared for. But then
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on the other side of that, when I when I
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had my education, all the farms were basically regenerative. They
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were all had mixed livestock. It wasn't you know, it
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wasn't factory farms. It wasn't you know these million bird
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you know, uh, you know, chicken houses, things of that nature.
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And so you had the diversity. And then of course
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was the mechanization of farm equipment, so you know, growing
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monocrops where you're depleting the soil all that, the nutrition
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went down. We didn't have GMO, we did not have
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cly fasse a, we didn't have you know, all all
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these fake products. Basically, even though they're grown in nature,
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there's still fake. You're man made. They're not what you
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would find in nature.
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And when we look at foods, and we can get
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in this a little bit later in the interview, but
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local and in season is so important because not only
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do you have the proper nutrients for your area, but
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there's the second part of that, which is energy, vibrational energy,
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and that's what basically allows the body to use what
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you're eating.
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And that's a very very important part of that because
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you can eat a lot of good food, so called
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good foods that are on a list of antioxidants and
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stuff like that. Blueberris are a good example. But here
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we are in Florida and we're eating them from South America.
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We're one hundred and eighty days out of sink, and
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so the energy is not the same, So it doesn't
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work the same. You're not getting the same nutrients. And
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as we've been studying over the years, we're finding out
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that more and more the minerals are the most important
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part of that, because if you don't have minerals, your
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body can't use anything. And so the but I did want.
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You to explain the difference between your food and like
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what someone might go to pasco or a warehouse or
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public How can you explain to someone the difference. You're
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talking about the regenerative farming, which is awesome, but in
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your own words.
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Well, we know that today probably eighty to ninety percent
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of for let's say, just beef and chicken, the two
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most popular meats that did the most of that is coming,
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