Oct. 9, 2025

Medical Malpractice and How Do You Protect Your Pets

Medical Malpractice and How Do You Protect Your Pets
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Season 17

Has your pet been the victim of veterinary malpractice? Have you paid for expensive testing, drugs, and treatments that did not help and maybe harmed your pet? What about recommending or insisting on harmful medications for fleas, heartworms, and other parasites? Can all those V*xx harmful?
Doctor Dym and I give you the facts and how the medical community protects their interest.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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information only. Content presented on any show by any host

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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.

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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,

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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,

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where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,

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Bill the Pet Health Guru.

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And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe that shows where

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your Pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet

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Health Guru, and I have another exciting show lined up

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for you tonight. It's kind of a almost a continuation

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of the conversation of we had a couple of weeks ago.

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As always, I want you to share this with as

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the more and more people because our message is becoming

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so very very important to the health of our animals

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and even our families as well. It's kind of a

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mission that we're really working on here, and that's very

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very important. The chat is open. I encourage you to

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put questions in your comments in and we will just

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keep rolling along with these topics and getting you more

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and more information. Tonight, I want to talk about a

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topic that's been very painful, if you will, to me,

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and that's the of course, we started on the show

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a couple of weeks ago about abuse. But I want

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to talk tonight about what is malpractice and how do

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we determine it and what can be done about it?

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And with that I got my special guest, doctor Michael

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Dimmu as always my expert on this kind of stuff.

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So how you doing, Doc? Not too bad? You know.

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It's uh unfortunately, you know, and I've brought this topic

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up and you're well aware of it because we've had

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several really really challenging cases recently with you know, people

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going through the yellopathic model and the amount of misinformation,

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the amount of overtesting, over prescribing, things of that nature,

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and at some point in time that has to enter

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into the realm of malpractice, doesn't.

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It absolutely sure those you know, in my mind, it does.

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You know.

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It's unfortunate that standard of care my allopathic colleagues has

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amped it up up to such specialty medicine that you know,

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the testing and the referrals or gotten so out of

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control and you know we're not, uh, we're not giving

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our patients better care. And what happens during this these

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huge workups is is often mistakes and sometimes the obvious

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is miss and we end up with cases with poor

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outcomes and you know they can order on our practice

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or negative for sure.

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You know, I mean by definition, you know, in the

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in the veterinary trade, what would be a determining factor

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or you know, a kind of definition of what malpractice

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really would be.

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Well, it's actually, honestly to build the opposite.

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Now, practice would be either the either a failure to

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perform certain tests to diagnose the patients. So it's actually

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the opposite of what you and I are or misapplication

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of testing where interpretation is below what's considered a standard

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of care. And in those cases we end up with,

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you know, cases again that have poor outcome and you know,

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and our animals are the ones who suffer, and the

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guardians of course.

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Well yeah, I mean it's it's it's kind of a

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catch twenty two. I realize that you know, one of

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the things that of course is a side effect of that,

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of course, is the high cost of the care, isn't it.

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It sure is, Yeah, the cost of the care just

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to paint, even just the routine exams. You can't get

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away with less than eighty to one hundred dollars for

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just even having an event look at your animal. And

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as you always say, usually that's done for just a

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few minutes. But the cost of the testing and the

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cost of diagnostics and the procedures is so way out

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of bound. And you know, our guardians then end up

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having that gans end up spending all their money on

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these routine tests, and then they don't have anything left

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for treatment or appropriate treatment, even if it's Western medicine treatment.

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They don't have any money left for that much less

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you know, proper diet, detoxing and herbal.

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It certainly makes our job very, very difficult. And you know,

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because you know, some things are just so obvious to

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you and I you know, it's like, you know, you know,

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dog has got diarrhea vomiting, I mean, which is a

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symptom of basically every disease that's ever been discovered. You know,

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it's it's one of the first symptoms that the body

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is got is basically trying to just eliminate a problem.

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plug them up and you know, try to disinfect them

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if you will, with antibiotics and you know, steroids and

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you know anti diarrheal, anti vomiting drugs, fluids, all this

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other stuff before they've even got a diagnosis. And I

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think that's probably the biggest streategy tragedy, is they're treating

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something something without even diagnosing or really looking at what

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the problem is.

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Most of the time we don't even make a diagnosis

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even after all this testing and everything.

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I mean, you and I had a.

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Recent shared case last week of an animal that went

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in with a very high fever and weakness.

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You know, they ran all sorts of tests, right, they

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all got a low platelet number, and they thought it

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might have cancer, and then they thought it had an

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order of view.

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Issue, and you know, it all said and done, they said, well,

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we think it's a bacterial or viral infection from from

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the intestinal track. I mean, come up with such bs

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diagnoses that don't have any basis whatsoever.

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Yeah, And I mean then at the end of the day,

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of course, then they came back with a final determination

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that it was some court of some kind of strange

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cancer that they couldn't diagnose. And of course, unfortunately, you know,

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the client lost the dog. You know, it's it's very unfortunate.

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But you know the fact of the matter is when

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I looked at it, immediately I knew there was something

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going on with in the gut. You know, that usually

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indicates some sort of toxicity, whether it's already built up

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in the body and it just hit an extreme point,

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or there was another external factor that kicked it over.

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I know, this person had been traveling, and so the

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dog was a bit stressed, the pet sitter, things of

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that nature. All these things can be triggers, and yet

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you know, they just kept It was funny because the

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conversation I had it was like the that was just

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doing a checkbox on a computer. You know, is this

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a symptom? Click here? If it's not, click here, you know,

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and then the next thing, the next line, the next line,

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the next line. It was like robotics, and you know,

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it went off on so many different tangents over four

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or five days days that it was it was, you know,

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just insanity basically.

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And yeah, if you remember the history that patient before

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it came to see us, it had years and years

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of tumor removals and cancer removals and lungs and I

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just want to specific and when we do that to

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our animal patients, we weaken their healing abilities, we weaken

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the life force of the chie and the animal. And

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so you know that also probably played a role too,

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is that this patient was so suppressed with previous harsh

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treatment that it did affect the body's ability to you know,

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to fend off toxins at the heel. I mean, I

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don't believe we don't die from cancer per se. No, No,

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it's as you say, it's toxicity.

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And and of course you know, I don't know if

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if you've seen, you know, any listings yet or that

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I had requested that we possibly get the records, but

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who knows how many drugs were prescribed that and treatments

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over that four five six days. I mean, it's funny,

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I you know, I know that she went for was

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it an MRI or Catsian looking for the looking searching

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for cancer, which didn't reveal what they were looking for.

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But I saw a research thing that came out in

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the last couple of days that basically the dyes they

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use the contrast eyes are more problematic than a radiation. Sure,

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how long have they been doing this, you know, to

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humans as well as animals.

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Right right?

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Yeah, yeah, And so you know, you go through this

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whole diagnostic crusade.

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And as I said, when I.

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Spoke to the person a week a few days before,

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they were like saying, well, we believe it's some weird

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virus of bacteria. We need to use antibiotics, and the

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antibiotics are what weaken the patient's defenses.

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And you know, just cause things are just unravel even

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more so.

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Yeah, and you know, I mean this is just one

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of several that we've gone through in you know, the

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last month. I mean it's like almost every other you know,

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every other day, we're getting something else that's like I panicked,

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I went to the I went to the yellow path,

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and then they're then they get in fights on the

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other side of it. And this is why I ask

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about what is really malpractice? I mean, you know, you

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go in here, your dog isn't is off on. You know,

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we're obviously after seeing you and I we're already aware

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that there's an issue with the animal that we are

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working to correct those issues, make them into a healthier state.

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And they walk into the office, and of course, you know,

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right now, one of the preliminary questions is what are

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you feeding? If you say raw food? Oh my god,

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you know you're now in a fight with a veterinarian

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who's never studied nutrition, right, and now, how can you

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have a relation, a healing relationship with that so called professional,

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because I don't think that seems very professional in itself.

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You know, I'm here because I have a problem. Let's

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look at the problem that look at you know, your

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political or you know, your philosophy on foods that you

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never studied. That's not a part of the equation. It's

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not even a part of it for the most part,

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unless you're obviously feeding you know, rat poison or something

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of that nature. And I don't think most people are

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doing that anyway.

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Yeah, but you know, when when a doctor or veterinarian

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starts going down these rabbit holes, if you will, prescribing

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and recommending products that are that are known in the

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scientific literature in the you know, adverse event records that

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they are dangerous. I mean, I believe that should be malpractice.

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You're right, it should be built.

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But unfortunately it's as I mentioned at the outset, it's

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often considered the standard of care. I mean, we had

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another mutual case that I go to today on a

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phone recheck where it was a little three pound kihuahua

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that went into heart failure, you know suddenly, and the

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guardian took you know, had to go to the er

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and they did a good job. They stabilized it and

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removed the fluid with you know, the diuretics and all

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of that. But now that they've stabilized that, they want

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to put the dog on a whole slew of drugs,

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whole slew of medication, and the dog weighs built three pounds,

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and as I said, a mutual pine of ours that

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I can work together.

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And she's born because she keeps being.

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Dragged by my alopetic colleagues to just do more testing,

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more fear, more drugs by noosis, things, this, that the

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other thing, and she doesn't know what to do, I mean,

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and so she gets to me that is now practice,

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and you know it's just such overtreatment and some of

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these drugs to manage the heart failure, haven't you have

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been shown to work?

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You know, So it's just it's.

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It's it's not only that they haven't been shown to work,

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but in many cases none of them have been tested

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on animals. And of course, especially when you have such

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a wide range from that little three pound huhuahua to

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that two hundred and fifty pounds you know, bull mastiff,

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what's even a correct dosage? I mean, you know we've

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gone through that with you know, the injectables that one

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size fits all. I mean, it's it's it's there's no

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common sense to start with. And now we do it

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as a prescribed procedure, if you will, and you know,

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and and of course on the other side of that,

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it's like, okay, we gave them, we gave them that treatment,

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we send you home. Most cases, there's no real follow up,

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there's no instruction on what to do next. What you

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can expect. You know, this is a list of adverse

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events that can happen. You know, because even if you

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ask if this, if this treatment will help or harm,

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and if so, what would be the side effects? Most

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of your allopathic colleagues can't even tell them.

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Can they that they can?

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So what are they doing?

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What are they doing? I mean with this little with

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this little three pound dog. You know, they have a

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whole laundry list of drugs and they want to put

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this little dog on and they all have side effects,

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and then how this has a poor protagnosis and they

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have to feed no more raw food. We have to

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put them on a low salt processed diet.

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And the woman rightfully is asking me what do I do?

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you know, what they're recommending is their standard of care.

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and you know they it's about either having trust or

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faith in wisdom of the body and the ability to heal,

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or giving in to the fear based model.

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That is what, in my opinion, is not prop.

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Now one of the things you just mentioned, and I

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want to bring it up, but I had an email

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on one of the other sites that was asking for

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consultation and looking to fix your dog. But the dog

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was diagnosed with a mild case of arthritis, and it

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was recommended that the dog had to be on a

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low or no protein diet for our thritis. A seven

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year old I think it was a seven year old

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dog at seven years old, because we don't want renal failure. Now,

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maybe you can tell me how our threatus and renal

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failure are like blended together, because that made no sense

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to me at all.

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need protein to hold hold the body together, to build

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that muscle mass, and to get the minerals in the body,

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and we're fighting a mineral deficiency exactly. I don't know.

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I guess, I guess I should take up drinking again.

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I'll tell you, because you know, it's it just doesn't

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make sense. But one of the other things you said

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is it's low salt loads, you know, diets. Why is

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it that with dogs and cats, the recommendation out there

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is completely no salt at all, any kind of salt,

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and yet every other animal that we have domesticated, all

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our farm animals, that sort of thing, we always put

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out salt blocks.

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Yeah, everything from the you know, from mice to rats

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to hamsters, gerbils, guinea bigs, rabbits, you know, and of

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course horses, cows, sheep everything, right, and of course that salt,

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that sodium is needed for stuff for hydration. We're moving

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the nutrients through the blood stream keeping that blood very

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very hydrated, isn't it exactly?

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Yeah, So this particular patient, the heart patient with the

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low salt has a low chloride, which is you know,

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goes along with sodium, right, and the low chloride they

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were saying, as a very I've never heard of this,

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but again more fear prognostic indicator in terms of survival.

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we have to do this other test on the urine.

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We'll see if we are even more at risk for

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early death. And they were recommending, you know, they said,

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with all these diuretics, your animal is gonna, you know,

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be low potassium, so we need to give you some

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artificial potassium supplement. And so it just goes on and

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on and on.

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You know, now I'm even more confused because I know

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that when the specialty diets came out, we were having

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all these renal problems in cats and it was because

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of hyphosphorus supposedly. You know, It's like so many of

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these statements just counter each other that on this side,

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it's one thing, this side on the other, and when

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we're gonna be up against break here in about fifteen seconds.

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But it's a lot of what I've been going through

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lately is it's not about these single numbers and these

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single tests for different vitamins and minerals because they're using

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each other and you don't always have There is no

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minimums and maximums really unless it's a synthetic. We'll be

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right back after this quick break.

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Right and we're back here on the Pet Health Cafe

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to show where your pet has a voice. This is

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built the Pet Health Guru along with my special guests

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doctor Michael dimm and we're talking about malpractice and uh,

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you know, improper testing and you know all the things

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that pet owners are unfortunately having to deal with. Again,

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like everybody to share, well, I.

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Want to go with that is you know, I for years,

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I don't even know if you're familiar with, but I

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was on a board that I was participating with social

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media group that you know, actually was the voices for

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you know, pet owners that were victims of malpractice called

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Joey's Legacy, and it was a very you know, I

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used to review cases all the time. And it's more

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than just it's it's not even just the testing. It's

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even the use of the drugs, the antibiotics that don't

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have indication. In fact, the company was started, the movement

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was started because the founder of that organization, his dog

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was prescribing an antibiotic that can cause kidney failure and

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it's used every day across this country called Convenient. And

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it's convenient because it's a two week antibiotic shot, but

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it lasts in the body about two months. And anyway,

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so his dog was given convenient and it went into

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kidney failure, and that started him on a mission to say, hey,

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why wasn't my dog given this drug? Why wasn't my

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dog's blood test at first to make sure? So anytime

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we use these pharmaceuticals and the laundry list of side

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effects we see, we can't forget that they are a

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big cause of maufactor, the pharmaceuticals and.

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The drug reactions.

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And you know, just as much as me over and misdiagnosed, misdiagnosed.

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Yeah, I mean, like I said, well as you started

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to say, if you got any questions or comings, and

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please get them into the chat, because I know a

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lot of our clients that are out there listening have

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experienced probably multiple cases of this, you know, and multiple

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times sometimes in a single animal's life. You know, they

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seem to bounce back, and you know, at that point

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in time, the doctor is obviously a genius. But yet

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when you start, you know, the next the next round

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of disease or health challenges, when you start to look

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at that, you're looking at the side effects, the adverse

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events from what he was given in the last round,

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and you know, we have to start adding this stuff up,

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don't we.

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Yeah, I think so very important, you.

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Know, like it was started to say before the break,

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you know, the vitamins and minerals. They're doing more and

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more testing of this, and of course they're they're using it.

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You know.

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All I can say is they're probably using it to

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sell supplements. But when you start using synthetic supplements, you're

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throwing off the balance anyway to start with, because the

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body can't use it in the right way. And the

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thing is when you start looking at just pure numbers,

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depending on what the body is doing, it doesn't need

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the same amount of calcium or phosphorus or tassium or

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iron every single day. Because the body is dynamic, it's

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changing it. And of course these things that are combining

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with other nutrients that are in the body so that

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the variables are like you know, just through the roof,

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aren't they absolutely?

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Absolutely, But there's that always that movement build a look

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at the nutrients and isolation of them.

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Why well, it's like the body parts the body, right,

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it's just you know, a big one lately is in

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ventary medicines, medicine, vitamin D three.

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They're looking at that deficiencies and part disease and inflammatory

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bowel disease and cancer.

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So we have to measure D three.

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Now we have to put the movement in the functional

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medicine world is measure D three levels and then start

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animals on vitamin D three if it's low. And as

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I'm sure you would say, that's just not very wise.

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No, well, I mean when you when you look at

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I mean, that's a good example of one, you know,

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because when you look at calcium, and you look at

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the use of calcium. Okay, first off, aluminum, which of

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course is in chemtrails and in round up, and you

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know a lot of different therapies that that doctors and

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veterinarians use actually blocks the use of calcium. Of course, calcium,

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we know is tied to phosphorus and potassium, and you

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know magnesium and manganese and all of that, and of

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course that's tied to iron, net and copper and so

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that whole thing. In order to use the calcium, you

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still need the vitamin D and you need the K two.

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So if you take the vitamin D out, it doesn't work,

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take the K two out, it doesn't work. So you

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could measure that D three and is it low because

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we don't have enough in a body or because it's

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used in the tissue itself in the healing process. Yeah,

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you know we're finding that out on the iron part

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of that and not a copper part of that especially,

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but yeah, that might have indeed thing that that's a

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part of what they're looking at with the copper thing

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as well, because if it's low, it means the body's

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using it. It's like a good thing. You know. It's

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like you're driving down the road and you've got half

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a tank of gas. At least you still got gas,

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you know, without any it's one thing. But when it's

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being burned as energy and fuel, that's a good thing,

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not a bad thing. And of course we talk about

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that with symptoms the same way all the time. Yeah, absolutely,

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So you know, you know, we talked a little bit

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in the last show that you were on about the

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clients abuse too, and this actually ties into it because

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when does that become malpractice?

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That's true too, emotional and verbal abuse.

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Yeah, pressure, I mean to me, that's that is a malpractice.

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It's just that unfortunately it's like the good you know,

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the good old boys club or the good old girls club,

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you know, the veterinary boards, you know, were really they

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go to bat for the veterinarians offer, and of course

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they have malpractice insurance and that takes care of things.

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And keep in mind that the other thing that's really tragic,

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Bill is that unfortunately animals are still viewed on viewed

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as as property. The value of them it's only what

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you paid for them at the store or or you know,

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what they're worth, and a depreciating model.

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00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.279
Like a car. And it's really tragic.

470
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.599
But hopefully that's going to be changing soon as you know,

471
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:43.519
this issue becomes more more made aware of.

472
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.000
And it is really really said on that part of it,

473
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:50.720
because even if even if it was a blatant you know,

474
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:55.839
a blatant problem rust off, most attorneys will not take

475
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.319
it because of that property value. That property value is

476
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.160
not going to be over what maybe five thousand dollars

477
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.480
if you're lucky, even if you pay more for the animal,

478
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.359
who's going to judge what the value of that animal is?

479
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.039
And you know, for an attorney to spend time fighting

480
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.799
this stuff, they're expensive, you know, so they don't want

481
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.640
to take most of these cases. They can't make any

482
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.559
money at it. They're in a money business too, So

483
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.200
you have a problem there. But the other thing is

484
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:27.119
is where can people actually go to final complaints. I mean,

485
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.480
I don't I don't think I've ever walked into an

486
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.079
animal hospital that you know, at least in the back

487
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.000
of a of a semi truck or a delivery truck

488
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.640
that says, you know, report any bad driving one eight

489
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.720
hundred whatever. You know, I've never seen a sign like

490
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:46.440
that in a in an animal hospital, right right, But

491
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:47.319
there should be.

492
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.720
The definitely should be.

493
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.839
Yeah, you know, I think somebody posted the questions out

494
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.880
about an animal guide from Free Poisoning.

495
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.519
Or let's bring it back up there. We were actually

496
00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.759
two questions that popped in here.

497
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean flea medicine. I mean those

498
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.079
those medications what everyone to call them pesticides.

499
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.000
I mean that's what they are.

500
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:13.359
I mean, they are neurotoxins and parsigens, and so to me,

501
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:18.160
just using those is for me blatant practice, you know,

502
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.240
but it's again, that's the standard of care by the

503
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.960
allopathic allopathic mindset.

504
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:24.640
That's true.

505
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.279
Yeah, Well, I mean a good one on end, and

506
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.400
I had this actually my notes, I was gonna bring

507
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.559
it up a little bit earlier. But let's take the

508
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:38.200
heartworm prevent the drugs that on the label says, this

509
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.559
is not a preventive. It's a treatment for something your

510
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:46.160
animal doesn't have. It's clearly stated. So if you, as

511
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:51.559
a professional veterinarian, tell me it's a prevention, isn't that again,

512
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:53.440
shouldn't that be malpractice?

513
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.480
It should be, but it's unfortunately, practically speaking, it's not

514
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:58.279
considered that.

515
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:00.759
Right by you know, and of course the fleet predator

516
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.799
the same way. This is not you know, these are treatments.

517
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.119
These are treatments for them.

518
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.799
And now they have these injections, Bill, I just read

519
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.839
a report. I mean they now they're pushing a six

520
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.480
and twelve non heartworm injection where you get a single

521
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.880
injection and it gives you six to twelve months of protection.

522
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.200
What about an animal it has a reaction for that,

523
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.079
that's to live with that poison in the body for

524
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.160
six to twelve months or more.

525
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.440
Absolutely, well, it's just talking about malpractice.

526
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.279
I mean, it's informed consent goes by the wayside with.

527
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.720
Profession, you know, on our local animals, you know, and

528
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.079
of course you know we've worked in the clinical situation

529
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:44.960
as well together, but you know, taking out the dogs

530
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.119
that are shipped in from the islands and things like

531
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:51.279
that that you know, being tied outside and exposed to heartworm,

532
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.720
you know a lot more readily than our normal house

533
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.880
dogs and that sort of thing. Most of the cases

534
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.960
I've saw I've seen of heartworm positive animal have been

535
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:09.279
on this prevention. So is that malepractice? I think, so yeah, okay,

536
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.000
so you know, I mean, it's we're gonna be if

537
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:14.519
I get breaks through about another two minutes. It's like

538
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.039
we keep looking at the test, the overtesting, the abuse

539
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.240
to the owners, the feeding you know, uh, you know,

540
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.440
I said. Another one was told on an eight month

541
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.720
old puppy, if you continue to feed raw, your dog

542
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.480
will be dead of kidney failure in two years right now.

543
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.640
First off, I guess that practitioner needs a little bit

544
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.519
more practice because he's playing god. He knows what the

545
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.440
checkout date is, right. You know, how many animals have

546
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.079
you looked at that said, oh my god, this animal

547
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.599
probably is going to be dead within two weeks, three weeks,

548
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.319
four weeks, and you're still treating him five years later,

549
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.039
six years later. Exactly why would you put the fear,

550
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.640
that negative energy into that owner, which is then transferred

551
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:03.200
to the animal.

552
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:04.920
Absolutely true, good point.

553
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.599
Yeah, it's you know, it's.

554
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:10.920
Yeah, it's it's tragic.

555
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.400
But you know, the you know, to get back to

556
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:19.200
the malpractice issue bill is that it's so rampant in

557
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.839
this profession and and you know, informed consent is so

558
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.359
not given. Whether it's the injectables you know that we don't,

559
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.759
Mama show, or whether it's the pesticides that are different,

560
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.759
or the drugs, the antibiotics, steroids, and so many of

561
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.240
those drugs have such a laundry list of side of

562
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.519
them that the guardian has a right to know what

563
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:39.319
those are.

564
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.920
And most of the time we're not told, they're not.

565
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Told, they're not told at all. I know we're going

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Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where

588
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your pet has voice. This is Bill the Peth Health

589
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.159
Gurgle along with doctor Michael dim and again I want to,

590
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.519
you know, let people know that the chat is open.

591
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.519
We can see there's some questions coming in popping up

592
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.599
as we're talking here and uh again, share and like

593
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and subscribe so we can get this message out. I

594
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.000
think this is a you know, just like our abuse

595
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.239
conversation a couple of weeks ago. I think this is

596
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.159
something that people really you have to start up thinking

597
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.360
about and you know, trying to figure out how, you know,

598
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.199
what kind of advocacy needs to be done on behalf

599
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.079
of our pets. And you know, on the other side

600
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.840
of that too. Why I wanted to have this conversation

601
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.719
with you. You being you know, on the alternative so

602
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.920
called alternative side, but it's on the real side actually

603
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.960
that how you're restricted in what you can say and do,

604
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.920
and you know what you're up against because you know,

605
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.039
we know when we were in you know, as a

606
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.679
part of a practice that you know, other veterinarians were

607
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.400
complaining because we wouldn't do some of those injectables, We

608
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.719
wouldn't do them according to their standard of care. And

609
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.519
you know, unfortunately, we were spending more money on attorneys

610
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.880
than we were bringing in the front door. And you

611
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.280
know that was stupid, right right.

612
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:02.679
Uh uh, I mean you know that's for another discussion. Yeah,

613
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:04.400
the injectibles.

614
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.400
Yeah, I mean, you know, my philosophy is I don't

615
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.440
do them. I'm sorry, you know. And and you know,

616
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.639
I've seen over over over my sixty years, I've just

617
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:19.880
seen so much bad stuff and so much, so much

618
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.840
stuff that was hidden and buried on the research side especially,

619
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:27.239
you know, you know, you're seeing stuff that's coming out

620
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.559
of course, even on our human technologies as well, that

621
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.480
this stuff never existed, you know, I mean, look at

622
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.039
the dangers of raw milk. I mean, come on, every

623
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:44.000
every living mammal starts life with raw milk. Yeah, I mean,

624
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.559
you know, you can't deny that they wouldn't be alive

625
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.480
if they didn't, you know. And so where is the

626
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.360
real science? And I think it was a question that

627
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.280
came up, how do you know if you're being told

628
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.199
the truth? We have that question that came up, I

629
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:03.480
guess someplace in the Yeah, how are we supposed to

630
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.039
know they were being led to you by a doctor? Well,

631
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.760
you just really don't know the answers.

632
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.679
I mean, they're very very good at what they do,

633
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.719
you know, And and they speak with such with such

634
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.360
conviction that it's so it's almost like they're preaching to you,

635
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.440
and that's what they're doing. They're living, And it's hard

636
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.920
to know when you're and I guess the best way

637
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.800
to know is to just be your own advocate and

638
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.159
do your own research.

639
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.639
I mean, certainly with AI and Google.

640
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:38.239
Their goal these ways that at least get some rudimentary knowledge.

641
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.199
You don't want to practice medicine that way. But at the.

642
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.440
Same time, there's you know, and when I give my

643
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.079
own lectures, I always tell people, always question what you're hearing,

644
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:52.199
you know, never just take anything that anybody tells you

645
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:53.599
no gospel.

646
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:54.199
You know.

647
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.559
That's why the word doctor you've heard me say on

648
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:01.599
many shows Bill means teacher. Yeah. Teacher's job is to

649
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:05.960
give people information and allow them to make an informed decision.

650
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:06.679
But if you're.

651
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.599
Uncertain about that information and you got to do your

652
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.639
own you should do our own research and be our

653
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:12.239
own athlete.

654
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.440
Yeah, we have to, we have to do it. I mean,

655
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.199
that's what you and I do. You know. Unfortunately twenty

656
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.039
four to seven, you know, that's why we needed one

657
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.800
of us sleep. It's like, what's that? Yeah, I know,

658
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:30.559
but yeah, it's it's it's very tough to get through

659
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:36.159
the jungle out there, if you will, of misinformation and opinions,

660
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.559
and you know, everybody's got an opinion, You know it.

661
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.039
You know, I always go back to the raw feeding

662
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.599
type thing, the real food, real food, real food. I

663
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.280
did a I just did another article for another magazine,

664
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.280
and I'm talking about the way the labeling laws work

665
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.119
and how deceptive they really are. That you know, if

666
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.880
you can, you know, the definition on a bag of

667
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.960
pet food can be chicken. Is that a you know,

668
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.440
a whole whole bird, just freshly slaughtered, all the parts

669
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.159
and pieces there that's processing to it. Or is it

670
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.639
you know, that's fit for human consumption? Or is it

671
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:19.760
a condemned one that's been previously dyed and been coated

672
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.199
with chemicals and everything else. Is it a bunch of

673
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.679
parts maybe just the frames you know where they take

674
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.960
it off, all the good edible parts. And of course,

675
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:33.920
according to you know, the FDA and the Department of Agriculture,

676
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.440
you cannot claim now human great pet foods, it doesn't

677
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:46.000
exist in their brain. It's illegal to say that. And

678
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.519
yet you know that's what I've been doing for twenty

679
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:53.360
some years, absolutely, you know. So it's it's a wall

680
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.199
that's being put up so that you can't do your

681
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.440
job the best way you know how. And I can't

682
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.039
do mind the best way I know how. And yet

683
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.559
every day you and I know, we see impossible cases

684
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:10.679
and we see actual results. You know that dog that that, oh,

685
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.960
you might as well just put it to sleep because

686
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.280
there's no quality of life. They're in pain. We change

687
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.159
the diet. We had a couple of remedies. You know

688
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.239
it's homeopathic or or you know, we had some different

689
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:25.320
herbs and botanicals, things of that nature. And you know

690
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:26.880
they call up the next week. I need to get

691
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.079
ordered more because the dog is I need to double

692
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.719
my order because the dog is running around the yard

693
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.039
like it was a puppy again. Right, What does the

694
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.960
veterinarian say to that? What does that doctor say when

695
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.400
the when the client cook, I can't believe it? Now,

696
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:44.599
why can't they believe it?

697
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:50.920
Just because you're challenging their religion. You're challenging religious dogma

698
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.880
which is ingrained into the psyche of the young veterinarian

699
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:57.800
at a very young age, right in that school. And

700
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:04.159
when you challenge somebody's know, philosophy or dogmatic belief, it's

701
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:05.280
it becomes threatening.

702
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.599
You know. Of course, you know I've been I've been

703
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.840
dealing with that on that on that heartworm side of

704
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.519
it in Paris, I think for twenty years when we

705
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.599
started first using you know, botanicals or heartworm, and our

706
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.199
clients would go into the office and you know, they

707
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.440
try to push to the commercial products as no, I'm

708
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.920
doing it naturally, but what are you doing? Okay? They

709
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.840
tell them, well, I don't know anything about that, and

710
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they go in six months later with their little postcard

711
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.360
back then and you know, no, I'm doing it. I

712
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.000
told you I'm doing it naturally. Well, I don't know

713
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.679
anything about that. And then the client would call would

714
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.440
come to me and say, I took the I copied

715
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.800
this stuff off the Internet and I took it and

716
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:42.880
dropped it off at the front desk for the veterinarian.

717
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.840
They go in the next visit and it's the same thing. Oh,

718
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.159
I didn't see it. I didn't. I didn't have It's

719
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actually literally what maybe a two minutes three minute read.

720
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:58.360
Yeah, yeah, you know part worm. That's what about malpractice bill?

721
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.719
What about the statement that they make if you don't

722
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.320
get your dog tested, you could make your animal, you

723
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.760
could kill your animal if you give him anything. You

724
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.639
got to make sure he's negative first before you give

725
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:09.440
an herb or.

726
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.239
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's the other big part of it.

727
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.400
I mean, yeah, I'm testing it's negative all the time.

728
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.400
So I'm going to keep treating him for something he

729
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.679
doesn't have and then wonder why the immune system falls apart. Yeah,

730
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.480
you know, and you know, and then I have to

731
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.039
you know, the dog's been doing good on the diet

732
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.599
of been feeding, but you know, I need to change

733
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:33.840
it immediately to a synthetic pile of garbage that you

734
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.000
can't even describe how it works or why it works,

735
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.440
or if it's even food because most of it is

736
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:41.840
not food. You cannot buy it any place to make

737
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:42.239
your own.

738
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:43.840
Right.

739
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:51.599
It's okay, Bill, come down, cause I'm back down like

740
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.199
a test to the ceiling right now. But it's it's

741
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.840
the truth. I mean, you would think that somewheres along

742
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.760
the line they would come to the real that there's

743
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.440
someplace is a path where you know, emergency medicine, you know,

744
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.400
some of the drugs, some of the pharmaceuticals, you know,

745
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.159
that sort of thing will come into play with what

746
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.079
the natural system is. But they put such a big

747
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.320
divide between it. You have to be one way or

748
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.280
the other, and unfortunately, our pets can't tell us what's

749
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.159
going on with them. So we're at the end of

750
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.800
the show again like always that now goes by too fast.

751
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:26.960
How can people reach you and so that we can

752
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.599
keep helping these poor animals because obviously they need it.

753
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.519
Well, they can go to my website which is doctordim

754
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.360
dot com spelled out d O C T O R

755
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.199
D y M dot com and that has all my

756
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.079
contact information, information on my practice and how to get

757
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.400
a hold of me. I do check my emails every day,

758
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.960
so I usually return those with them within hours.

759
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.480
That's you know, it's it's you know, it's a it's

760
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:56.360
a challenge for you and I. You know, fortunately our

761
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.679
camp is growing bigger and bigger and bigger. But you know,

762
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.800
as soon as the clients hit that wall, that allopathic wall,

763
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.400
everything comes into question. And you know they don't I mean,

764
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.559
I think that abuse part of it is a big

765
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.079
part of it too. They just do not want to

766
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.639
be beat up, and you know, sometimes they're going to

767
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:18.199
avoid going because they don't want that harassment, and that's

768
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.519
unfortunate as well. With that being said, I want to

769
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:26.039
thank everybody for watching tonight and listening, and I'll be

770
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.320
back again in another week. Have no idea what my

771
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.039
topic will be next week, but I'm sure it's going

772
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.679
to be another exciting one. But share this with all

773
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.960
all your friends. You know it's available twenty four to

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seven worldwide, YouTube, Spotify, and iHeartRadio all over the place.

775
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So let's get the message out. Keep sharing, please, and

776
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.840
doctor dim thanks for being on again. Always a pleasure,

777
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.719
and let's just kick button take names, good night, everybod.

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