Your Pet Is Vaccine Damaged
WOW! Questions and answers about what vaccines are supposed to do what they actually do. Is your pet vaccine damaged? How will you ever know? Is your vet being truthful on the risks and when an adverse event happens? We tackle the issue like no one...
WOW! Questions and answers about what vaccines are supposed to do what they actually do. Is your pet vaccine damaged? How will you ever know? Is your vet being truthful on the risks and when an adverse event happens? We tackle the issue like no one else! More Questions!!!!
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0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your pet has a voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru. And welcome Bill the Pet Health Guru. Here again another week go along with my special guest host, doctor Dimmon. We're gonna be giving your pets a voice.
0:49 How are we doing, Doc, I'm doing well. How's it going? Bill? Hey, same stuff another day. But I think we're making a little bit of progress anyway, you know, where more people are starting to wake up and not be woke. Yeah, I hear you. There's a lot of people still be woken up. But that's for sure. Got to get the word out there, you know, about what we do and what options there are other than the same gamut of things. Yeah. Actually I don't you know, I don't want to you know, Uh, let's part of the secret out But I think the conventional veterinary industry is actually helping us because of the way they're raising their prices and all the non conclusive testing that they're doing, and people just can't afford it, and they're getting sick of it, aren't they. Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, just to bring an animal in for a minor clinical complaint um ends up costing, you know, for the diagnostic testing bloodwork and X rays. It's like five dollars right there. And they haven't they haven't even you know, made one of their recommendations of a you know, expensive drug or a commercial processed food. But you're so right, it's just the the bills at the conventional bet clinic of really creeped into outer space. Yeah. Well, you know, and you know, looking at it from the model that we look at, and you know, I look at you know, when we were you know, when you started on the show with me, and that's where thinks several years ago, I mean, people were like freaking out that, you
2:21 know, your half hour console was or your hour console was how much back then? Right? Yeah, and now you can't even get into the conventional set for that. Yeah. Well, it's you know what I always tell people, it's it's you know, the value of services is so difficult to tangibly measure. That's what people we have a very you know, tangible society. They want to see in their fingers what they're getting for their expenditures. And so you know, they're used to paying the forty fifty sixty dollar exam room fee, and then you know when it comes to the testing, you know they want to they at least they they're getting their results, whatever that means or doesn't mean, right, it's sending several hundred more dollars where you know, if they just go to people like yourself and myself and look at just the services we offer, that type of advice or treatment recommendations is so much more valuable in my opinion, than what they're getting in the local conventional vet office. Oh absolutely, it's you know, you know when we're looking at you know, the information it's out there now that basically our bodies and our pets bodies heal themselves, but we have to give them the right tools.
3:35 And that means somebody's got to basically look at what's going into the body, the stresses on the outside, both the emotional and the chemical and physical stresses that all add up and create what timmally known as disease exactly. Yeah, and often it's chronic disease that's going to go on and on and on unless we intervene with some of the measures that you and I preach about. And you know, the thing about Western medicine, which is why I got interested in ballistic therapies and homeopathy, is you know, you have permanent customers that are just coming back over and over again for the same chronic disease symptoms, and then eventually they're getting sicker, of course, because the nature of the medications or the surgical procedures or the you know, the drugs that are used, and you know, the patients are just getting sicker at younger and younger ages. They're not healthier. They're certainly not living longer, healthier lives.
4:38 No, they're not. And you know, I mean we've seen that. You know, of course, the so called deadly diseases like cancer even in dogs twenty thirty years ago, was almost unheard of. Right right now, it's you know, like I said, young, I've seen cancer and dogs as young as eight nine months of age. I mean, it's not common, but it's you know, to see cancer and young young puppies even or you know, young adults is just tragic in my opinion. Yeah, I mean when you when you look at it, I mean, it's it keeps getting younger and younger and younger. Because of course, cancer is a basically an environmental disease. It's caused by toxicity. And the more you know, medications and poisons and in the food and the lawns and outside um that we put into mom, that puppy, that kitten is already born as a toxic dumb. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good way to put it.
5:39 I mean that because they're getting you know, in that placenta, you know, before they're born. They're getting in utero the same toxins the mothers exposed to. You're so right, And so those young puppies and kittens they're being born with just you know, ravages of toxicity and the seeds of chronic illness. Yeah. Of course, that's going to bring us into our topic tonight, which is vaccines. And you know you mentioned something a couple of weeks ago one of our other broadcasts that they're starting to vaccinate puppies and kittens at four weeks now. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen on certain health certificates when people present to me health certificates. You know, puppies being vaccinated at four weeks, and you know, back in the day or even a few years ago, at least they were waiting till six to eight weeks. But four weeks when they're barely off their mother's milk, is just you know, a recipe for disaster, that's for sure, it really is. And you know, we want to get into this topic quite heavily today, and basically, what's the theory behind vaccines. Well, the theory is is that if you inject you know, modified live organisms into an animal, that you're going to stimulate, excuse, an immune response that's going to protect that animal if it's exposed to those infectious diseases later on in life. So the idea is a
7:11 good idea, I mean, it makes sense to try to do that, but the way it's done and the way that vaccines are formulated and the way they're given are just totally antithical to the way the body evolved to keep infectious disease away from the body. You know, it didn't. I mean, as I said, the idea of giving you deluted, weakened substances to stimulate a healing response makes sense, but the way it's done is just is not conducive to health for sure right now, I mean on the things that they're vaccinate for it I'm taking this as a broad rushult in humans and livestock and of course our pets. Are how many of these so called diseases are actually commutable? Yeah, not many, or how many even even exists. I mean, you know there's components in the vaccines that excuse me, are not even um, they're not even you know, real risk to the health of animals. And you know, for a person to consider, for us to consider any vaccine for animals, or any medication for that matter, I use you know, the principles of is it is the medication or the vaccine in this case, is it is it safe? Is it effective? And is it necessary for the health of that animal in other words, preventing some significant
8:41 risk to its health. And the truth of the matter is is that a lot of these components that are put in these combination vaccines fail those criteria. Might list of questions and things that I want to get into, um is you know, you and I have a slightly different approaches because we have slightly different education. But what really is in both the educational process and in the literature that you've that really demonstrates what vaccines are are really doing. Is there really any kind of evidence? Well, I mean in the allopathic literature they claim that there's evidence when they challenge dogs with infectious organisms and saying that they're protected. But a lot of those studies build are skewed. They're not really good studies. They are you know, slanted in favor of the drug companies, pharmaceutical companies. They're not looking at they're you know, they're only looking at safety on a very short short span of time usually you know, a few days and most right you're not looking at the effects of the vaccines on the chronic health of the animal. Okay, and studies are very very poor in my opinion. Oh yeah, they have it for ages, I know that. But on the other side of that, Okay, going through medical school, what did you learn about vaccine? Well, besides what you're supposed
10:13 to give, Well, you learn it they're good, you know, like it's almost like a religion. You learn that they're necessary to keep the populations healthy. And you know, you learn that, you know, you're kind of brainwashed from the from the drug companies, and you know, in immunology, a big portion of it is vaccinology what we're learning, and you know, vaccinology meaning what we vaccinate for, what's necessary, what's what's going to be protective. But it's really it's not like we're sitting down learning the science of immunology. And that's something I want to get into a little bit as the show goes on. Is, for example, when we talk about vaccine reactions, is that most veterinarians have very little to no training in in you know, the basics of immunology one on one, which tells us that vaccines, you know, can affect the immune system not just immediately, but in the days, weeks, months or years later. And that's the schism and the break and the mental mindset of my conventional vet colleagues in veterinary school and in young veterinarians that come out, and it's just amazing to me the rhetoric that they tell people, and it's and it's again it's just it's it's religious preaching in medical school. That's that's the best way I could put it.
11:37 Yeah, now, you know one of the other things that you just brought up here, that's very very important. UM Doctors and veterinarians today are not really uh don't really learn how to diagnosing. They're really relate relying on test results from some lab with somebody's opinion written on the back side of it. And when you started looking at you know, some of the problems with especially vaccination, you know, when did they show up, how did they show up? And is the average veterinarian even equipped educationally to identify these things?
12:24 You know, no, they're not built And that's just you know, it's an excellent point you bring up. I mean, you know, they know we don't learn about the you know, phases of immune reactions. I mean, not to get into the science of it here on the show too much, but you know, there are four phases of the immune response. And when you inject these modified organisms and the adjuvants and the metals that go in the heavy metals that are in the vaccines into the body directly, you are triggering responses that can occur, as I said, immediately, but typically in the days, weeks, and months ahead. And that's been shown scientifically, and somehow there's been a break, a mental break again in that information being taught to young veterinarians and in school, and it's just they're not. And so various conditions like chronic allergies, skin and ear allergies. I'm sure people out there don't realize that are still vaccinating their animals routinely or every few years.
13:28 Is that vaccines increase the predisposition to you know, toxic reaction reactions to toxicities in the environment, whether you look at them as molds or pollens or allergens. So a lot of these animals with chronic skin and ear issues, a lot of times it's the vaccines being a main toxin that triggers those responses. So allergies and you know what they call allergies, skin and ear problems, other problems for example, various endocrine hormonal problems of the thyroid and the adrenal gland have all been documented to occur in vaccinated animals and people as well as you know, problems like encephalitis or inflammation of the brain, which of course can lead to seizures and other neurological symptoms, and even chronic diseases such as you know, even diabetes is an autoimmune response where the immune system is so inappropriately stimulated that it leads to a destruction of the cells that make insulin in the body. I mean, vaccines have been incriminated in all of these things. Even you know, a common quote unquote injury that occurs to dogs today which I rarely saw when I was in school in the eighties and early nineties are the acl issues or the cruciate ligament issues in the knees. And people used to think it was an injury. But what the research has shown is, and they've done and they've shown this through even biopsy tissues of the
15:00 of the ligamented structures that make up the knee of the stifle joint, is that it's an autoantibody from the vaccines that get deposited in the in those ligaments and lead to a tear or rupture of the structures of that joint. So it's not a trauma or an injury. So vaccines are really and their markers are all over the place and chronic disease presentation in the veterinary clinic and veterinarians. Even though this information is well documented in the literature, veterinarians are either not being provided that information in their in their medical school training or they're just turning their noses up at it. They don't want to believe it. But you know, it's it's interesting if you mentioned that because realistically, um, you know, we know a lot of the ingredients that are in UM the vaccines, the mercury, the aluminum, um, you know, the squaline, all these things, and these are these are you know, one of it's heavy metal, and it's going to accumulate when it accumulates in these joints.
16:03 Basically, it's killing those cells in the new cells coming up, isn't it. Absolutely that's another avenue you brought in the role that heavy metals play and disease in the body. I mean absolutely, So it's not just the antibody responds to the to these injected foreign proteins, but it's also the metals that come along with them, the aluminum in the mercury, as you said, in the squalene and all the other components of these vaccines. Exactly that One of the other things too, is okay, you know, when in the conventional setting, we haven't gotten into the different phases yet, but when we look at it at the anallpathic bottle, you know, basically most veterinarians will look at the immediate injection site reaction. Okay, we got some swelling, you know, some redness, that's where they that all goes away.
16:55 Well, my question is, okay, so that's the immediate area where we just put these toxins into and obviously the body's having a response to it. How long does it take for those ingredients to migrate? And this is talking about ulto biological and the heavy metals and the chemicals and everything. How long does it take to migrate through the throughout the body? It happens pretty quickly, Bill, does it take didn't start the destruction? And how long does it? How long before you see the destructive results? Well, I mean, I'll just share with you and we're up against the break in a minute, and we could carry on with it afterwards. But I saw a case today at a clinic I do some part time work out of that presented the day before for its vaccines. And it was a nine year old giant schnauser and it got its combination distemper parva vaccine, which is totally ludicrous in a dog that age, which is not even at risk for those infectious diseases, and it got its injectable kennel cough vaccine, and within twenty four hours, this dog represented totally collapsed, vomiting and coughing up blood, weak, pale.
18:15 And that reaction occurred in the hours right after the vaccine, some massive, overwhelming immune response that totally led to just a breakdown in this poor dog's body. And I don't know ended up what happening with the case, but it ended up being transferred to an urgent care facility. And to be honest with you, here's part of what we were talking about. A few minutes ago. The young veterinarians that had administered the vaccine was saying, well, we don't know it was the vaccine, even though the owner was crying and saying, my dog was perfectly healthy and fine before he came in and why did I bring him in? And you know, she was in tears. It was so sad to see. And but the veterinarians, instead of acknowledging that reactions occur, we're saying, you know, we don't even know if it's the vaccines. It's it's just you're like questioning their religion. That's really what it comes down to. Yeah, I know we're up against We're almost up against the break here. But but that's part of the problem that I see is that you know, there isn't that relationship between what I just did and what the reaction is. I know there's a lot of other mitigating factors that are out there, but the fact of the matter is they don't even really know what you know, what the vaccine is doing, let alone you know, being able to offer any help. But it does occur. And that's the probably the most frightening thing I think for most pet parents is that
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21:23 Herbs at nine to five four four seven two one four zero four or visit biocomplete Natural Diet dot com. All right, and we're back here on the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pets a voice is build a pet health Google along with doctor Michael dam in case you you didn't catch it when I did when I went to the break. This topic gets me fired up because I see too many animals that you and I and you know a handful of other good practitioners around around the country work so hard, they get them on a path, and they get that email, they get that postcards, they get that phone call that your animal is due for shots, and they're taking a perfectly healthy animal and within twenty four hours, like you say, they're an emergency care and spending literally thousands of dollars to try to save their dog that just had preventive care. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's just And then much more tragic is is that, you know, where it's an opportunity for the young veterinarians to learn something from it, like we you know, they shouldn't really be you know, now, you and I of course are minimalists when it comes to vaccination that you know, we should basically have none or minimum and you know these veterinarians that are you know, even just blindly vaccinating without even any thought of whether that animal is even susceptible or prone to
22:56 what they're vaccinating for which to me as a clinician, as a trained doctor, I'd be scratching my head. Why would you give him medicine to an animal or human for that matter, when they're not even you know, likely to contract the disease. I mean, I think we went through that with COVID even right with young kids and young adults and that were being vaccinated with COVID, and you know, the sensible doctors were saying, well, why are we vaccinating for them? For that? It's the immunity. You know, natural immunity is so much superior. So the same is true with our animals. Well, even when you look at immunity, is it really about being immune to something or just having a good, healthy, get body that's able to manage the toxins and the threats and you know, the assaults that are being thrown at it on a daily basis. That's very true, Bill, I. You know, I agree with that perspective. And that's what we always break things down to is toxicity in the patient. And you know what the profession has which we can get into a little bit. The profession has come around to with alternatives to vaccinations, are measuring these tighters, which I used to be when I was when I graduate my early in my veterinary career back in the mid nineties, I worked at a clinic where I came back from a meeting and at the meeting they talked about how the you know, from an allopathic perspective, the immunity to the core viral vaccines last for
24:29 years, if not the life of the animal. And I came back and they were suggesting tighters which we can get into. And I came back from the meeting and my allopathic employer at the time, it was like, Okay, I want what's best for the animals too, which was nice to hear, right, but we'll make more money measuring the tighters, so let's do it. So they measure these antibody levels, and we used to do that all the time back then. We any animal over the age of one or two, they were getting these tighters measured, and at least it was a good thing that most of those animals weren't being vaccinated based upon that test. But that test, to me, was just a means of making up the lost income from the vaccines, because that's really what drives the vaccine business is And you know, the these antibody tighter tests, which I know is a big wave of the current you know, craze on vaccine alternatives. That test, as is other diagnostic testing that we talk about every week on the show, is imperfect and it's not even accurate much of the time. So it's measuring what are called antibodies, which are parts of the immune system that are made by it's called humoral immunity. And you know, it's it's assuming that measuring an antibody tighter is equivalent equivalent to protection, and that's just not the case in any cases. So it's an example of another test that is not
26:03 always accurate. Right now, you know, I mean some of the common vaccines. Of course, the puppy vaccines. You know number one is distemper obviously, and you know the few others that are out there. How deadly are these so called diseases. To help the well fed, well managed animal, well, you bring up distemper and distemper is in a class of viruses known as measles viruses, and measles was a disease that was they used to back in the fifties and sixties have for children measles parties so that kids can get together and contract measles and get over it and develop life long immunity. Oh wait minute, let me get this. Okay, So we had measles parties. So we because that's a deadly disease, we had a pizza and we put twenty kids around it and they all infected each other and they ate pizza and they all died right now, that's funny. So no, so they had, so I'll bring it to dogs. So you know, distemper being in the measles family, does the same thing with our dogs. Most healthy dogs are not dying of advanced pneumonia or neurologic problems or seizures. And that's the fear that they put into young veterinarians that if we don't vaccinate for this old disease of dogs known as distemper, that you're going to end up with all these dying animals. And that's just not the truth. And certainly in certain areas of the world, Bill where there's Third world countries, where there's poor hygiene and poor nutrition and stress, you're going to see certain infectious
27:36 diseases, and distemper maybe one of them. But in typical healthy animals, as you mentioned, the incidence of distemper is minuscule. So I don't I mean clients, I would stay stay away from the distemper vaccine. And you know one of my colleagues, you know, many years ago, a homeopathic colleague used to have distemper parties for dogs. She would actually find out from the local um municipalities. She would find out where there was distemper and the raccoon population, and she would then find out which areas of the parks or fields that they would be in, and then she would have her clients bring their dogs to the field so that they can get natural immunity and play with each other. So, just like I said, distemper parties for dogs.
28:22 Yeah, it's funny because when I one of my first jobs and when I got out of college was in a channel upstate New York. And when I was introduced so all the dog we had one distemper puppy was probably ten twelve weeks old, and the approach from the from the breeder and the owner of the kennel was Okay, this one gives extra meat. A week later, the dog was running around. The puppy was running around like there was it never it, nothing ever happened right right? You know it wasn't a death sentence. I mean that's you know, that's God. This is back in like nineteenth sevent one. So I learned my lesson real early in order to move the show along a little bit. Okay, first off, we're looking at the way different fields, and let's kind of just summarize it short so we have time for a lot more discussion. But okay, let's start out with the conventional telepathic approach of vaccines. What is it? Well, basically that you inject these modified, live, weakened viral particles along with everything else into the body, and we stimulate an immune response. We start when they're puppies are kittens. We theoretically do it every few weeks because we realize that there are antibodies from the mother's milk that is still in the puppies or kittens bloodstreams and that bind with and prevent the vaccines from even doing anything. So I was gonna say that when you when when you've got the natural antibodies from
29:56 mom and you and Jack, don't you kind of null everything And don't both sides of it nullify absolutely, and so you have no protection at all. Yeah, it's not even doing anything. So it's like, you know, it could actually make it worse because you don't have natural and you don't have immunity from the vaccine because the actually takes time to kick in too, doesn't it. Well, yeah, you have time to kick in and then those antibodies from the colostrum and the mother's milk needs to be at a lower level for the vaccine to even stimulate or try to stimulate an immune response. Like you know, you're asking me the allopathic perspective, and so you keep doing that every two to three weeks to these young immune systems at four to six weeks of age, and god, the damage that's being caused by all that.
30:42 And then we're doing it every two to three weeks until they're sixteen to eighteen weeks of age. And then at that age the antibodies from the mother's milk is supposedly not you know, at a low enough level that the injectable vaccine will have some positive effect and stimulate, hopefully a protective immune response. Now that's the allopathic perspective. Now, if you speak to scientists in the field, experts like Ron Schultz, who is the father like vaccinology and immunology inventory medicine, who was talking about over vaccination and you know, immunity duration back in the seventies, you know, the profession wasn't listening to him.
31:23 But if you talk to him, he used to us, he would say, you know, you don't even need to vaccinate your puppies and kittens when they're younger like that. Just wait till they're sixteen weeks of age, give them one and then they'll be protected so instead of you know, bombarding their immune systems. I'm gonna throw a crazy question here. Yeah, okay, So, okay, we're getting the natural antibodies from the milk, in the cholusterom from mom. Now when we throw in those toxic chemicals in the vaccin scene, is that nullifying the nutritional value of the melt? I think so.
32:07 I mean, you know, you're you're you're in a position to comment on that further, but I would think so. So what I am? And that's that because you're altering Obviously all this stuff is going through the body. It's obviously you're going to affect the gut, isn't it. Yeah, Sure, the gut is the gateway immune system to the rest of the body. Sure, you know, whenever you vaccinate um, the gut is probably the first, you know, the first damaged area that we see, you know, trying to push it out. Well, we remember Andrew Wakefield's work, oh yeah, with MMR vaccines showed that it was the combination of those three viral particles that led to a leaky gut, immune dysfunction of the gut, and all sorts of inflammation of the intestines and colon that led to a certain percentage of children becoming autistic. And the pathology was all at the level of the gut. Okay, so we got two minutes before the break a little less than that actually, So what is the difference between a conventional telepathic model and the integrative model. Well, we didn't finish yet, So so at the sixteen weeks of age, then we're doing it every year and you know, giving the same injections, not thinking about whether the animals needed or not, and you know there are Then the profession several years ago came up with a compromise. They said, well, we hear you about Schultz's research, and we acknowledge that protection lasts for years of the life of the animal,
33:38 but we're just going to say, let's vaccinate them every three years. Where that arbitrary cutoff came from, God only knows. So there are more and more veterinarians now not vaccinating every year, but every three years for various organisms. Okay, and you know it's it's it's way over the top. It's it's just not necessary. Well, we're within the within the minutes of the break, but I have to ask you a question. Are all vaccines, all distemper vaccines, all parle vaccines? Are they all created the same? No, they're absolutely not. There. So the brand, the manufacturer, the process, all of that is going to have varying results on m and various side effects adverse events. That we're actually creating multiple uh streams of what I would say would be physiological distress. And that's going to feed the whole disease spectrum, isn't it. We'll talk about this after we get back from the break. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be from poor nutrition, and
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36:44 to your doorstep. Call nine five four nine seven one two five zero zero to speak with our friendly staff today. Let my Paleopet help keep your pet happier and healthier. All right, and we're back your Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet Health googrole with doctor Michael Dim. I think this is going to end up to be a two parter because we have just touched the surface, haven't we. Yeah, yeah, we can talk for hours on vaccines, that's for sure. God, you know, I mean, you know, to finish up on your conventional elk pathic approach, you've got the floor. Well, I mean, as I mentioned earlier a few minutes ago, the you know, integrative slash approach. Instead of vaccinating every year for every organism under the sun, whether an animal needs it or not, you know, they've gone now to, like I said, every three years, which is an arbitrary cutoff time.
37:43 That's not where quote unquote the immunity you know, leaves the body. It's just they decided, Hey, we got to satisfy the professions need to make money and people that are just touting we shouldn't be vaccinating at all. So it just shows you the just the you know, poor morals and ethics of the profession. To come up with that arbitrary just angers me so much that they came up with some arbitrary cutoff of every three years. Now the integrat event will either shift over to that protocol or they'll measure the tighters as my you know employer I've right out of vet school did, where they measure the antibodies as a means of whether they want to vaccinate the animals or not.
38:24 Now, the thing about the antibodies are is you could have a high level and have minimal protection, and have a low level and have high protection. So it is not a you know, a perfect test. And that ties into memory cells, doesn't it, Which can you actually can you actually measure memory cells? No, not with current technology. So the memory cells from an immunological perspective are actually more involved with viral immunity than the antibody levels. So that's why animals with low antibody levels can still be very protected. And Schultz's work which was challenging dogs with the viral infections after they were vaccinated.
39:09 His work was done based upon challenge studies, not based upon antibody levels, right, And it wasn't. And I know he's retired now and finally a lot more stuff that's coming out, But a lot of that work was highly suppressed, wasn't it. Oh? Yeah, I mean, and it was actually some of the you know, like the quote about vaccine immunity lasting years, if not the life of the animal when given minimal vaccines at sixteen weeks of age. That was quoted in a book called Kirk's Current Veterinary Therapy, which is a textbook taught in all veterinary schools. So somehow that quote and his chapter on that topic was ignored by the profession because again taking money out of the pockets. Sure, now we're going from integrative into holistic.
40:00 And I got one more group after that that I'll bring in. But so the more holistic, and of course, you know, in veterinary or medicine, you're all trained as alipaths and conventional medicine, and the holistic thing is is kind of a broad spectrum term. If you're doing anything basically that's alternative. You put holistic on your shingle, but that's not truly what holistic is? Is it? No? Holistic? I mean to me the definition of it, everything you put, like we talked about on the show, everything you put on or in the body can have effects on short term and long term health. Right. And when we use medications we're using whether they're herbal therapies, botanicals, or whether they're homeopathic remedies or Western herbs or Chinese herbs, we're looking at affecting the whole body. Were looking at treating the body in parts. And so the holistic perspective on vaccines, you know, to get back to that is that we want to focus on the holistic health of the animal, not un worrying about whether they're going to be you know, susceptible to you know, viruses that they're most likely not going to come down with. Well, it's it's it's it's interesting too it because I mean, in realistic terms, if you're wanting to really stretch it isn't the alepathic model
41:34 supposed looking at that whole body thing that we're trying to prevent the whole body, which is holistic. Yeah, you would think so, right, isn't it insane? It is insane, Bill, just the thing. And then I've been using that term a lot more obviously in this show in the last few weeks, because it is insanity. Yeah, yeah, it is insanity. The body against everything all the time. Well, okay, you remember that that movie or that documentary, The Kid in the Bubble. Yeah, what we're trying to do. It sounds like it. It sure does.
42:14 And if you add up Bill, all the components of these vaccines, these animals that are coming in for these checkups, they're getting a five in one or seven and one. They're getting you know, rabies and kennel cough and lime disease and leaptospirosis, and then these combination vaccines they're getting injected with sometimes seven to eight and nine organisms and all the junk that goes with them. And uh, you know, that's that's just crazy. It's like being like walking into it looks like walking into a hospital and you're exposed to twenty seven different diseases all at once. Right, I mean, the only the only saving grace that I could give to it is at least you're only getting one dose of the mercury and aluminum and all the toxins because we combined all the diseases in the one right, right, And you know, the movement is from more and more vaccines. In fact, you know, these boarding channels now, we talked about that, I think on other shows, but these boarding channels now are requiring you know, this influenza as well, and you know that's one of the worst vaccines that was developed in recent years, not effective, causes sickness and chronic disease. And if you want to go away and leave your autom on a doggy hotel, you know, you got to get these all these shots and it's just just insane. So you know, Pat Jordan called Wombo combo, that's what she Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, we have to try to get her back on the show, although
43:45 she's kind of gone underground, you know that. Yeah, I know she's kind of removed herself from Yeah, too many, too many death threats for speaking the truth. Yeah, that's true, unfortunately, you know. Um, okay, So just to kind of wrap up the show, and I think we can kind of bring it in another show into a lot more detail. So we've done that. We've done conventional and integrative and actually the whole holistic approach. But now what is the naturopathic approach? One thing we left at was the use of nozodes, which are homeopathic remedies that can prove So I want to throw that one in there, homeopaths. Which is that more in a holistic or into the naturropathic It's kind of that, Yeah, getting more into the naturropathic APPROA. Okay, that's what I wanted to get into it. I knew you'd bring it in. So the naturopathic approach, sure is, is looking at the whole body, you know, looking at herbals and botanicals, and looking at other ways of bolstering the bodies immune and detoxification responses. And as I said, for animals that might be susceptible to certain clinical syndromes, we now have the use of what are called no zodes, which are homeopathic remedies that were that are developed from from weakened, deluted substances of diseased animals. I know it sounds awful, but it actually energetically is prepared. It's physically deluded down to where and shaken down to where there's nothing,
45:19 nothing but of the original substance. Excepting energy, and it's that energy of the original substance that provides the protection against you know, again certain clinical syndromes. And one of my colleagues, Todd Cooney out practices in the Midwest. He's actually published how well parvo nozod's work compared to the vaccines. The vaccines were what caused par first place. That's true, Yeah, yeah, you know, that's you know, the naturopathic approach I think includes what you do, what I do, and um, you know that's how I look at it. And well, moving away from the testing, you know, it's like I said, antibody testing and the tighter testing PCRs and all that stuff that don't work. I know now, you know, within the last four minutes of the show, and you know, when we look at this whole thing, the chances of your animal actually getting any of these and actually being to the point of critical care death if you're doing a piece of appropriate diet, clean, non toxic environment, won are the chances of that ever happening? Minuscule? Bill? You know, I've I've come a long way in my practice. You know, people say, what do you do for heartworm? I say nothing, What do you do for the vaccines, I say no vaccines. I mean the ray piece is required by low. We
46:52 didn't get a chance to get into rabies too much on the show, but rabies is one of the more damaging vaccines. You know, it affects them. I mean it's about a neurotoxin. Rabies vaccine is does some number on dogs nervous system and affects their behavior, their their emotional health. And so you know, with rabies, it's hard to get around the law. But in the state of Florida, we're able to write rabies exemption letters for animals, So that's a way around it as well. Okay, you know, and that might be the great topic for our next show to expand on this whole vaccine thing. No within where like two and a half minutes into this, where can people reach you? They can reach me. They can go to my website, which is doctordim dot com, a's d O C t R DYM dot com. All one word that as my email address, my phone number, and I welcome clients from you know, all over the country.
47:47 Much of the work is done by telephone, yep. And of course myself, I mean get me through um, you know, the various sites that I work with my paleopad, Biocomplete, Natural diets um, you know, through on social media, pet health Guru here um. And you know, you can schedule consultations and all of that sort of thing as well. Um, you know, the new you know. But basically, at the end of the day, doctor dim, it all starts with what you put in the body. That you put the right stuff in. You don't have to worry about all this stuff, do you No, you know, we just have to be mindful of what we put in exactly. And again, whether it's injected, ingested, inhaled you know, all these different ways that my professionals found ways to get these toxins into these animals, all in the name of preventative health. That's what we need to avoid, folks. And I know, you know. And one of the things, you know, even though we you know, we we promote raw diets and and you know that sort of thing. You know, raw foods, which are obviously the best for our animals. Our food supply is being tainted now they're talking about him RNA vaccines for cattle and hogs, you know, in our food supply, they're putting coatings on our organic fruits and vegetables that you know, to make them last longer, more sustainable. What do we know that they're putting into this stuff? Yeah, yeah, it's just amazing. And they're talking
49:22 about putting vaccines and actually you know, vaccine like material into these foods and additives vaccines through our food without labeling it. And it's something that everybody needs to start looking into because you know what it's you know, I remember this goes back probably what the fifties or sixties. It's a brand new, strange new world. And with that doctor dem at the end of the show, another great show. Gee we fill an hour so way too fast. That's true. Though tonight's topical certainly a one we're both passionate about. And hopefully, you know, we got our message out there on this important topic.
50:05 Let's hope so. And like I said, we'll follow up with another one on some of the more specific vaccines and what we can do. Thank you for listening night, Everybody to go to our our podcast site, I Huge Media pet health Cafe like share and God bless you. How healthy is your pet? Does your pet suffer from ear infections, scratching and itching? Diabetes, cancer, or other elements. If you want the best health for your pet and to prevent or relieve these symptoms, my paleo Pet is here to help. The key to healing is a clean, natural, appropriate rotational plan.
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