The Science Behind Fatigue

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0:42 Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet is a Voice. This is Bill Pet Health Gurgle with you with another exciting program tonight, a lot of things planned. As always, I wants you to share this right now, go on, you hit that share button, calling all your friends, neighbors, animal lovers, people lovers, anybody wants to be healthy. And then of course like and subscribe to this channel so that we can keep this thing going. Jeff will be open so you'll be able to question my fantastic guess that I'm going to have to night. I've been a frequent visitor to the Pethouse Cafe over the years, really an inspiration to a lot of what we do on the outside, keeping us in line with the best practices and the best up to date research.

1:34 In health. And with that being said, I want to bring in Willie Robin, author of Researcher and Friend. How are you doing, Morley? You see him? Him? Morley, I have a black screen with him. Yeah, I know he's frozen too. Let's give him a minute. Okay, here's a little circle going as as you know, anybody who's watched this show knows that one of the most important health things that we talk about here to keep the bodies healthy both our pets and our pet parents are bioavailable minerals. You know, they have to be bioavailable.

2:18 They have to be in the you know, in the chains that they need to be in to. Certain minerals use each other as synergist and in a complementary way, and that's very very important that we do it that way. Hopefully well more we can get as tefficult things going here. It's you know, it seems like lately we've been having a lot more issues with technology than we have in the past. It's it's just crazy. As technology is advancing, you'd think we would get better and better and better, but it doesn't seem in that way. I think the the problem is is that you know, the Internet as getting with his exploding is just getting overloaded all the time, and of course just slows things down, causes the screens to freeze up, and you know, makes it difficult for us sometimes to bring on guests. Now, it's amazing that I've been for the most part able to broadcast. But I've got a good system. I guess here where i am.

3:28 In the near future, I'll be moving and we're working with communications companies to be able to increase our standwidth at our speed so that we won't have technical issues with this in the future. One of the reasons why I wanted to bring morely on so as you can get in here is he did release a second addition to his book. If you've read the first book, you'll be really interested in the editions that have gone into the new book, and you know, hopefully we can get him on here to you know, explore those differences and the new research that he's been working on. He is one of the top podcast guests in the industry. Everybody loves to watch him there he is. How you doing?

4:17 You must be on your phone now, it's good to see you again. So you're frozen again? Are you broadcasting from Antarctica. I guess he can't hear he is Okay, can you hear me? Morley n challenging? Can man kind of? Can you hear me? Yeah? I can hear you now. Welcome, Well, thanks my friend. Been a while, that's been a while. Yeah, I apologize for the commotion of the background you out here on the West coast in Los Angeles, Okay, with the Keilly museummer's pretty pretty happening.

5:01 That sounds like that sounds a good plan, you know. For there's a uh A health influencer named Ben Greenfield you may got a bird of and you've become a real promoter of the recuperate product that we sell, the Recourse Protocol, And he's come up with a video his whole program. And there's three showings, one in l A, one of the Austin, Texas, and I think one of the post and he's asking them to be present so I can help those questions. Then when they come up at the leeting scene again, Ben Greenfield Verry Verry switched on a biohacker and has a big following. He's much younger looking than you and I and the people people dig retreat that image more than anything.

5:57 So sure, you're absolutely late. You've been traveling all over the place promoting your your philosophy and your research and everything. The world is my oyster. And I'm going to going to Poland in October as a publisher over there who read my book and was just transformed by it. So it is trans areting into Polish and the party thing about it, I don't even have to say hello in Polish. Way, and I'm a Polish descent. There, Kay. So it's gonna be. It's gonna make fun an experience system. Gord you over there for about a month this fall. There's a lot of fun.

6:38 It should be a lot of fun. Yeah. So what's new in the world of research and development with minerals and your roof calls, protocol and things of that nature. Great, it's a great question. It's about nine months ago I came across a phenomenal study by researcher at Northwestern University. He's a carniologist and his name was Hussain part of Holland A R D E. H A. L. L I. He's an absolute genius and one he was focusing on was the metabolic origin of heart disease, especially congestive heart disease, and when he was able to pinpoint is that there's a specific protein in the mitochondriac that restricts is released from the mitochondriac. That protein has initials A B C B eight b as A Baker eight and it's it's an ancient protein that's part of our designs way back in time. And I thought that the this mechanism was solely focused on heart tissue. And this morning and then a Starbucks in the middle of downtown Los Angeles having my cup of Joe, and I stumbled across an article he wrote. In the same year he wrote the article

8:10 on art issues, he wrote one on neurotive generation and a pinpointed the exact same protein has made a king contributing factor for the iron accumulation that causes Alzheimer's in Parkinson's, and I was just like I went bunkers. I had no idea that that protein was involved in more than just one set of tissue. And so it's got me all refocused on these mechanisms that control the flow of iron that no one talks about. And our diet is heavily disruptive to those proteins. As you could guests, and farming chemicals are very disruptive to the minerals that are needed to make those chemicals for those proteins work properly.

8:59 And so it's kind of more of the same story, but the whole focus of the story has now broadened to not just art issues, it's brain issues as well, and I would suspect that it's going to be a lot of different organs that are going to be affected by this one protein that has a particular relationship with copper. And this is not being taught in classical medical education. There's no surprise there, but it's just getting people aware of the fact that iron build up has always been the problem from the beginning of times. And what this article of twenty twenty two went into excruciating detail about was that as we age, iron accumulates, especially in her brain.

9:50 And I'm not sure why it seems to be isolated in the brain tissue. And it's not just the brains issue, as you know, but it's particularly affecting the brain. And doctor Arta Holly is a world renown expert. It's this whole process of iron accumulation. It's very, very exciting from the standpoint of at least knowing what the problem is. Now, we got to figure out how to solve them. That's the key. Yeah, that's always the key. But these youre said the rune, right, you. Know, since the problem is iron all the time, I mean, can't we use a product like rastolium or something, right? I think that's what recruperate's supposed to be. That's the nostolium in our body, that's right. So so I think that it's just it's I think what's missing is the function of the couper enzymes that a're supposed to be regulating iron. That's the same old song. But now that we understand it's affecting brain tissue as well as heart anxious, you know, our joints, things like that, I think it's against put more pressure on finding a solution that has daughter application.

11:04 Yeah, you know, of course, supplements, you and I talk about a lot, you know, when we get into the copper, you know, we talk. We talk about it in the food, you know, beef, liver and things of that nature, which will help balance it out. But it seems like the choices aren't always the best that we have for that. You know, of course we've been beat up for since the nineteen fifties about eating organ meat. So that's you know, that's been tough. And you know, when you look at supplements, how were they made, how was they copper extracted to put into the supplements? How much do you need? You know, where do you need it? How often? Well, I think the key is to go back to where our ancestors were in the nineteen thirties. They were getting four to six milligrams of copper a day. I think that's a good reference point. They were eating a lot of organments, they were eating a lot of foods that had retsin all in them, part of oil, butter, yard eggs, heavy cream, dress fed better especially. So I think that what we need to do is just return to the lifestyle of our ancestors and begin to put stock in the genius of our loty that knows what to do. Just we've not been fed properly for the last probably four or five generations. Yeah, I think that's really where the biggest problem. I think your your pet customers are closer to the truth than the pet customer owners.

12:34 Yeah. Well, that's what's been a big part of our education is of recently. You know, you can't have healthy pets if you don't have healthy owners, right, you know, bringing them into the fold. So many, you know, we're seeing more and more that you know started out with you know, basically you know, more vegetarian, vegan type diets and are slowly starting to incorporate more and more animal produits into it. We got quite the liver and onions yet. But you know, I have I have a sheet of paper with about twenty names on it. Those are people, Those are clients. They got excited that they could eat beef liver. And I've talked to eighty five hundred people.

13:20 So there are a lot of people who don't like organ meats, you know, Yeah, but they just don't want to take the taste. It's just it's unfortunate. That's really where the real value is, as you well know. Yeah, one of the things that you know, I've talked about this for ages actually a decade, you know, the where they had demonized organ meat and of course so that people would think it tastes horrible, but in reality, part of it was the way our parents ate it, at least in the fifties and the sixties, where it ended up to be the soul protein on a whole meal, so you're ingesting a lot at one time, and of course it was cut in and cooked to death. Then you know that sort of thing where actually, if we take you a little bit of eat, you know, if we eat a little bit each day, much better off.

14:12 You need it as the side. It's a healthy side dish. You know. Everybody said that, don't you know that I hate liver. I hate liver until they go to the party in this or do you need a pote and they don't need a lot of it, but they have cold spoonfuls and were fine. It's just we were We read a color of ours here in La a couple of nights ago, and she put put together a dishes. Never had pote taste so good, and she told me that it had an enormous amount of cream in it we never thought of game, and a lot of butter as well, and it was the best poteo ever had all life. Yeah, it's funny. When we started first started a deli, we were doing a pote uh for the line, you know, for the raw deli, and we were right next door to the farmer's market that sold pot and we got into a little bit of a tiff with them about selling it that sort of thing. So we had a taste off and because we used a lot of cream and a lot of butter butter and they were doing buying a commercial while we want to dance down. Yeah, it's all about the ingredients, you know, and the fresh air and the cleaner Obviously, the better off you are for all of our foods. But the mineralization product of our foods too, is really getting more and more concerning, you know, with the monoculture, you know, agriculture, and you know,

15:44 the lack of minerals that they're replacing in the soil. They just keep training, walk training, and want training, loves and now I'm saying where they're you know, with these uh solar farms and things like that, where they're just basically taking all the top. Good top soil. That's right prime farm land selling it off. People just don't realize how fragile farmland is. It's a really it's a real crisis, I. Think absolutely, And of course you know now and it's funny too on the other side of it now because people are starting going to wake up. I think every other package of who that you see says comes from a regenerative farm, right. Well, of course, like.

16:25 That's a brand new concept. That's what all farms used to be, you know, fifty years ago, one hundred years ago. It was all about that rotation and diversity, you know, which which helped it out. Rotational pastures, you know, rotation of plant stop, you know, following the system. It actually works together, you know. I mean I was one of the first, very first ecology courses that were ever offered, were up in Buffalo at there as the Buffalo Museum and Science. I took it when I was on teen years old. Fifteen years old. It was about really college how everything works together, right, and then of course it was hijacked with birthday into something totally different.

17:13 Well, I think they shouldn't call it farming, they should call it common sense. Fum. Yes, I agree with that. It's because it's gonna be. The system is the world. I mean, you can't just keep adding you know, synthetics and poisons and trying to trying to really micromanage it that much, because I mean, all this stuff is killing all the microbiome as well. You need that micro biome to be able to break down and utilize these minerals. And without it, you know we're gonna be dead. It's that playing simple, I think. But anyway, we're up against our first break here. We'll be right back with more questions from Morley. Jump on the chat. If you have anything.

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20:53 This wonderful person will the momentum has a plus three valains and iron that is supposed to be attached to the transparent protein. It's part of the iron recycling system as a plus three balance. And what happens is that aluminum that we are being exposed to is disrupting the ability to move iron properly through our body, through our recycling system to make new red blood cells. And it's very, very disruptive. What I've never been able to identify is what's the scale of this exposure. We don't you know, we see the chemtrails, but we have no idea what's your boots on the ground impact of the aluminum. I've never read anything about that. I don't think we will ever find that kind of information, but it is very, very disruptive to one of the most important parts of our metabolism, which is the recycling of iron to make two hundred billion red blood cells every twenty four hours.

21:57 If it's not properly source here's the right side of iron, it's going to really disrupt the speed with which we're able to replace those dying red blood cells. I think it's a very very disruptive process that you've identified. Yeah, I mean, uh, let's see it on the backside here. I've got a question. What about what about cooking and aluminum, aluminum foil, all of that stuff, And we mentioned temptrails obviously because you know they're visible because people don't think about that. But we're using aluminium in so much, you know, not only cooking with aluminum foil and luminum hands and things of that nature. That we're wrapping our aluminum And now I see, I just recently saw one of the so called health gurus it's going to be packaging his supplements in aluminum line pouches because I guess because it it trying to seal it so you don't get oxidation in a better field. But what good is that if.

23:06 It? Right? I think there's no question exposed to all sorts of heavy metals lumum, have them wed mercury, everyone's so worried about. I remember reading an article from from Germany and it was published in nineteen twenty five, and what they identified back in nineteen twenty five iron It was a thousand times more prevalent in our brain tissue than all these other heavy letels combined. So that's not part of the current zeitgeist. I think everyone's freaking out about all these different heading lettles. So what I'm solidly focused on is the iron, because I think people are being misled about just how provalent it is and just how toxic it really is to our data day lives now.

23:57 One of the other questions that came up there in the same comment line using cast iron. Right, everyone worries about the illuminum pants and the cast iron. I think I think the illuminum pants is a bigger problem, and the foil and certainly just ways we can get around that with stainless steel, especially with the cooked gurg. As it relates to the cast iron. How long has cast iron been used on the planet, Probably four thousand, a long time, and so I think it's been a central part of our diet for a long time. I think what we have to be really careful about is what will be cooking in those cast iron pants, and once we get them seasons, we got to maintain that seasoning.

24:41 But I think that they're actually a very stable part of our cookware that has been it's being I think damonized if you will. I don't think it's as problematic as people make it out to be. I continue to use cast iron cookwar to make our bacon and eggs every morning, So I'm not at all concerned about the cast iron because I'm very careful about how I wash it and how I preserve its season Yeah. I think that's a big part of it too, you know, you know, and of course staying when you're seasoning if we're using you know, animal animal fats and uh, you know, tallow things that that are not using the seed oils.

25:26 That's right, that's right. But what people don't know about the seed oils. Everyone worries about the lipid peroxidation. It's a legitimate concern. I get that, but but the match the lipid p oxidation is iron. It's always iron. I made that point to many podcasters, and it's it just does not sell well people. And I'm not defending the seed oils in any way I would, I would not recommend them, But people need to understand that it's iron in air tissue. It's accumulating every day we're on the planet. That's striking Philip ap proxigation in our body. That's the real problem, is the iron in addition to the the seats.

26:15 Yeah, it's you know, it's getting tougher and tougher. It's getting tougher and tougher to find clean products out there anyway, whether it's flokware, whether it's our food, whether it's our clothing. We've about it in so many different directions. Nobody really thinks about all of it, you know. We even a little bit that you can do to help out. Every little right step is a step in promoting health and getting younger and healthier. That's right. It is. It is a day by day, step by step process, and it gets it gets challenging at times, but it isn't the big changes matter. It's the little daily changes that we make day in and day out that's for the real payoffers.

27:02 Yeah, exactly. So what are there any other items that you have isolated recently since our last talk, and that sort of thing that are also problematic to go along with this whole opera. Iron back earlier in the year, and I think we've talked since then that did I talk anything about kidney function and how fraduate it is to both iron and something called in doctor sulfate. Can we talk about that at all? I don't think so. Okay, but if you've got a seatbelt nearby, you might want to strap it on, okay, because it's great. That's right. Good.

27:44 Hopefully the audience is doing the same. There's there's certain foods in our diet that have an amino acid called trip to fan them, the most notable being turkey. Everyone loves their their turkey uh nap after Thanksgiving. But the trip defanstabilized becomes what's called an endole group I N D O ll E, and that alone without a problem, But when it gets oxidized, and when it gets sulfated in our liver, it becomes what's called indoxl sulfate, and indoxal sulfate is I think basically a harbinger for death that is not well recognized in healing. Circles when you when you begin to pick at it, you're going to find out that just about every chronic disease has a relationship with in doxal sulfate. And what whats real threat is is to our kidney function. It's very disruptive to the normal functioning of the kidneys. And as the indoxo sulfate builds, iron accumuates in the kidney and the filtration rate collapses goes down. This is not a good thing and it's really the main contributor to what's called chronic kidney disease. And it's a very well researched the very little known mechanism for chronic disease. And if people were

29:16 to do a Google search for indoxal sulfate, it will always take them to kidney function. But it turns out it has a relationship to obesity, as a relationship to heart disease, as a relationship to neuroine the generation, as a relationship to diabetes. There are very few chronic conditions there are at some level being influenced by the amount of adoptal sulfate. It appears in our body because of our diet, and where it becomes really problematic is that ideally this should be cleared in our polar but because of the build up of iron that takes place during the course of our a lifetime, it can't be cleared as efficiently as it should be. And it's just it's just build up of indoxal sulfate in the colon. It begins to build this crowd, very toxic disruption to our overall metabolism and and it's it's one of the most profound things that I've uncovered in all my years of researching.

30:24 Uh So I would just encourage people to take a look at that a little bit. And I n d O x y l in DOXELTI of stule fated and I think people's people will be genuinely shocked at how pervasive it is in our in our body, but also in our product of these conditions. No, and as you say that that process happens in the liver initially, what's the damage? You know? When I look at kidney disease, I always look upstream, which of course is a liver, and then you look upstreaming tell good about the guy. Hell, it's the doctor Solfa all the landside. Well, I think it's the biggest damage is to the kidney, and then when the kidney starts to back up, then it starts to affect other organs as you as you probably will right at some point, all the organs are connected.

31:19 And I think that if we can stem the tide of the doctor Fate and us, there's so much pressure around the body are going forward, and so it just becomes and it's we're not going to stop being in Turkey. It's not suggested. What you do is what we've got to do is make sure that we're managing the iron it's in our tissue. That's really what the Root Cause Protocol is designed to do. Begin to lower the iron footprint and to raise the copper footprint and allow the body to regain its equilibrium and make energy, which is what it's designed to do. All right, we're gonna be right back after this quick break.

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33:43 And we're back sharing at Bette's Cafe to show Europe's voices build at Hell's Good Fully Robins by researcher and good friend who are talking about how about does I just I got another question on that okay, since it's actually produced in the liver from the liver, right, is that really a natural occurring thing or is that being caused because of something else that deliver is exposed to? Great question. The build up of iron and the liver is very stressful. There's two steps to produce in doctoral sulfate. There's oxidation and there's sulfation of it, and both of those are heavily influenced by a build up of iron in the liver. And what people need to understand is that we've known for a century, since nineteen twenty eight, you when you withhold copper from an animal's diet, the iron will accumulate. The liver will accumulate iron. We've known us four hundred years. It's not taught in doctor school that way, but that's really where the principal breakdown is in the body is inside the liver and there's five hundred enzymes that the liver is supposed to be managing.

34:58 It's very hard to do it when the liver is d drowning with iron. Very very difficult to do that. Yeah, Now, another another question I've been looking at uh here recently. You know, people are starting to move back to copper utensils. And I know now, of course, being in South Florida, you know, booming pools are almost every yard. People moving more towards sulfur based basically treatments for the pools and that sort of thing. Compensation sulfate, of course, is one of the things that is being used as an alge side, you know, in search for filters and stuff like that. What's your thoughts on end Are they helpful or harmful?

35:44 I think, as Paracelsus said, the dose is everything. I think we have to be very careful about what kind of exposure we're getting to these types of interventions. People are always asking me about copper vessels. Is that a good way to get copper, because copper vessels are a great way to kill the pathogens that might be in the water. But I don't know that it's going to give you a physiological relates to the swimming pools. I've had no experience with that at all. I don't know what the level of exposure is. On one level, copper is not a problem, but then you mix it with the salts as you're suggesting, and that's when it begins to build up. Some of us impact in our body. Again, it's it's a it's a balancing halt. That's the challenge is finding that sweet spot where where suddenly immers from being our friend to being our phone. And I don't I don't know what that threshold is in giving swimming pools clean and usable for the public.

36:55 Yeah, I mean, you know, in one of the first interview that did with about the copper pipe, they and the older houses and that was a source of copper and that basically was it was unregulated as well. We don't know what doses were at the right right, But yeah, I mean, it's it is such a balancing act. And of course, you know, finding the right food, finding the limiting our exposure to even more iron. I mean, isn't that isn't it a major portion of it? And where's that iron coming from? Them being so much the iron? It comes in two forms. There's hem iron versus coming from animal products, whether it's fish or meats. But the non here iron is the more problematic, to be honest. So non heam iron is found in produce, is found in in reed products that they're adding iron two and all four products. It's not just get but it's also the supplements that people are using because they think their nameless. It's the non ham iron.

38:03 It's inorganic iron. It's not an organic form like the ham iron, and it behaves very differently. And what the research that I've uncovered over the last couple of days around iron accumulation in the brain, it's the non ham iron that's the most quite problematic. It isn't the ham iron that does not become an issue, but this inorganic form that we're finding in the food system outside of animal products is very disruptive to human metabolism, especially inside the neurons and the glio cells, the astrocytes, and the oligodent sites of the brain, and that's where the iron accumulates and one of the cumulates. It creates a lot of oxidative stress with the results in going for proteins breaking down, getting rusty, and then iron begins to a trod as a result of all of that. So the idea of nerd degeneration does not come from Mars. It comes from our diet and our inability to deal with the stress of our lifestyle, and the stress is causing this key upside and protein to elevate and when it elevates the iron get stuck in our tissue, especially in our brain tissue.

39:24 And of course it's becoming more and more of a problem. We're seeing it every day, you know more, you know, brain fog and that sort of thing. Absolutely, and of course I don't hear anybody talking about, you know, about that being clogged. I mean I hear a lot about light fasse. That's sort of thing. You know nothing about iron or minerals. You know, imbaloves what we talk about all time too. Well, don't don't hold your breath built You're not gonna hear a lot about. I know, we feel like we're talking to the wind sometime. Exactly right, that's exactly right. But but the followies are getting bigger and bigger. The understanding is becoming more more prevalent.

40:10 It definitely is. It absolutely is. And of course you know, copper of being the conductor of electricity and we are electric beings that that that you know, energy healing and energy work is becoming much more popular as well now and getting that iron is going to be a big part of that, isn't it. That absolutely is. And so the thing is people need to understand that that copper is the general as we've talked about it before, Iron's the foot soldier, but the copper is really it's running the nervous system. People don't realize how important copper it is to the transmission of signaling around the body. And it's massively important that you get you get into the subtle communication of the news of the mitochondria, of the other components of the cell.

41:05 And they're very heavily reliant on being able to pick up a cell phone literally and call some of them a tablet and say, hey, I'm having a problem here. And I don't mean to tru realize it. The body does need to be able to communicate with itself. As we've become more and more copper deficient, those communication lines break down and then we begin to have real serious problems in our fat of a helmet. You know. I mean, we've been doing a lot of I've been doing a lot of work two with you know, uh energy products that stimulated the growth basically of copper peptiles. And if there's a lot of talk about peptides today, you know, and that sort of thing, and the injectables and all of extra things. What's your thoughts on that.

41:52 It's just getting people to realize that it's only a few things we need to worry about. You've got to be aware that as we get old, we accumulate more iron. Well, if that's the case, I think it's a well established actually the biology, and we've got to focus on the nutrients, especially the copper, the retsinol, and the food based the vitamins to help regulate that iron. Once you're focusing on that and you're doing regular blood donations, lowering the iron footprint in your body, he has an absolute magical effect on the level of lustings taking place inside the body.

42:33 And it's just it's a very straightforward mechanism. It's just not readily found on the internet. We're readily found in an AI search. Yeah exactly. You know, these hours go back so fast when we're together. Can you tell people where they can reach you and how how they how you can help them, how we work together? Happy to be resistance. The best way to learn more about the Route Cause Protocol is to go to our website, uh the Root Cause Protocol dot com. Go to the resources tab and there's a link for what's called a starter guide. We're happy to send that to you. And we will update you with new editions as they come online.

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44:19 Well, as you know, you know, we moved to a new new location. We're setting up in education there. I can't wait for you to come down and visit. We can send you know you haven't been down for so long. Tell me about I have a failure. It will be after Poland and then and I'll impress you with all the words I know in Polish. Good. Yeah, that sounds great. So to everybody that was watching tonight and listening tonight, thank you for watching Morley. As always, it's great to have you on as a guest. Thank you very much. We sincerely appreciate it. Thanks for the opportunity. As always, good night, folks. Take care.

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