Every orphaned baby deserves a fighting chance!

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill, the pet health Guru.

0:42 And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill pet Health along with my co host Michelle, my health coach, and we've got a dynamite shows lined up for you tonight. Something again. Hello everybody, and well welcome, okay to Pet Health Cafe. We're having some technical concerns that we are Pet Health Cafe. Around the world. We want to help as many pet parents and pet people as possible. I don't know if Bill can hear us. I tried to take over for you a little bit there. Bill, how you doing. I'm fine, there's no problem on this n as we always start to show, I want to ask you to share this with as many people as you can. I know Michelle was busy today posting all over the place, all over the world, and of course subscribe in life so that we keep our algorithms growing and growing and growing, our viewing and everything else, and there will be The chat room is always so if you have questions for us or for our guests, we really appreciate it. And it started to hear Michelle, I want to say something about our special guests today. I've had the privilege of working alongside these people for several years now, and I can honestly say, of the people that I work with over the last six years in the industry, these are some of the most passionate people I have ever found.

2:13 I feel like I found somebody that has my passion as well. And it's unfortunate sometimes because I'm so busy running the business, I don't always get a chance to chat with them as. Much as I would love to. But we're gonna have a chance to chat tonight, and Michelle, I'm going to turn it over to you for the introductions and all the goodies. Do you hear me, Michelle, Are we having a problem, Well. Hope, Puy, my internet doesn't kick us off. So across there's everyone, because I am so delighted to part of the Milk Drunk foundation that is a foundation for helping neo natal pets, and I would love to welcome Michelle before and Abigail Batik.

2:58 She's the vice president. Michelle Bacoor is the founder and owner of the Milk Frunk Foundation. So welcome, Welcome Michelle, or welcome shall else. Yes, welcome. I don't see enough of you, as you know. I'm Michelle. Hi, guys, Hi, thank you so much for having us. It's an absolute pleasure. And I share the same sentiment. Bill. It's been an issue, absolutely fantastic being able to meet you guys and work alongside you guys and collaborate. And then I'll let Abigail introduce herself as well. Hi everyone, I'm Abigail.

3:39 I haven't met you in person, Bill, but Michelle has told me wonderful things. She's always messaging me. She's like, oh, I just visited the store and I saw Bill. We were talking a whole bunch, and you always give great recommendations for all the pis and our reviews to the foundation. Hi. Good. You know you know, I don't know if you know that, but with the new store, we're putting in an education center and we would love to have and give a talk on what what what really goes on behind the scenes, because it's you know, with restaurants, it's not always what you see at you know, the the events and things like that. I've been working with rescue groups, believe it or not, for over fifty years on my sixty year career, and I've watched an industry that has changed so much because of regulations and rules and things like that. You know, my opinion, my honest truth, is that I want to take animals from bad places who can be good places, and there are steps.

4:39 In the middle that sometimes have to be done. And you know, everybody wants. And hopes for the perfect ideal pack, and of course we know in the screening process quite often that they don't really always take in it consideration, you know, the needs of that particular breed, their living conditions, their economic situation. And that sort of thing. And it's you know, some of the things that we have to teach him about. And I know, Michelle, you know, working with you with you know, some of the challenge animals you've had, seeing some of the successes you've had, it, you know, it brings it brings joy to my heart because these animals, you know do need the extra care, and the people that normally end up there are the ones that are really really educating themselves on what needs to be done.

5:30 And of course you know, with you and I, of course. With the feeding, starting with the feeding itself good food, that's help. Yes, absolutely, I completely and one hundred percent will hardly agree with you. I think that the biggest problem in rescue is that when we intervene, we do so by completely going away from the root of the problem. Most often than. Not, the root of the problem is we do not have the correct building blocks to help the animal have what they need to get better. So we pump them full of medicine and we treat all the symptoms, but we're not treating the root costs.

6:13 And most often than not, if we just allow. Them to heal themselves by providing them the correct nutrition and the correct love, sometimes we don't even have to use any medication. And that's essentially how the Milk Drunk Foundation started. I was ever so lucky that when I was thinking about it, we came across I came across Abigail, and she shares very similar sentiments, which is sometimes intervention means doing nothing and letting the pet get better just by providing it what it needs without having to do all these crazy things that most rescues do. And sometimes that also means that you don't spend as much money, so then you can save a lot more. So the money that we would otherwise have to spend in like crazy er bills and that sort of thing. We do spend that money at my bedio pad, and we get amazing food and we know that we're giving the pets that the right nutrition, the supplements.

7:11 That they need. I mean, you know, Bill, we've we've come in there with animals that were missing skin and fur and eyes about to fall out and couldn't walk, and you said, oh, you know, let's try this, and let's do this supplement, and let's do this you know, blend of food. And we literally just watch them get better by just eating the proper too, the biologically appropriate food, rather than pumping them full of chemicals and highly processed stuff. Well that's that's an interesting thing, was it? Because first off, according to the FDA, all drugs are toxic. So how do you fix a problem, And of course, your the problem is that most veterinarians, unfortunately, most medical people are not studying physiology. I harp on this on a lot of shows. If you don't you know, physiology is how the body works.

8:04 If you don't know how the. Body works, how can you fix it? You know they're using a protocol that's basically pre programmed. It's in every veterinarian computer. You know what drugs are used, what you know remedy programs, you use, what testing to do. And unfortunately a lot of times it's based on how much money you have in your bank account too. What's your Curdit's like, you know, you don't need a five thousand dollars procedure and oh, by the way, we have a care card here for you for five thousand dollars. You know, that's not how that's business. And I've been in this la, I say, for over sixty years now. I started out in animal science. I mean I will be working with all kinds of livestock, horses, cows.

8:50 Cheap chickens, and everything on that end. When I was in my college years training horses, even as did a spind with basically exotics tigers and Florida panthers and tigers and of course all the normal what we would call normal exotics, raccoons, you know, hetchhogs and all of that stuff, as well lizards. When I started in the industry. The industry was allowed to sell things like monkeys and Kota Mondy's and things like that, So I handled all that stuff throughout my career, and a lot of birds, exotic birds and tropical fish. It's all the same. You have to treat the animal, which is animalists. You know, whatever that animal is, we have to cater to them and understand them. Otherwise we fail. And we don't want to fail with our animals because we're the ones that are responsible.

9:43 And I apologize. I had to go on my phone. Were we able to get answered? Like what inspired the Milk Drunk Foundation's name, because that's really that. I love the name. I thought everyone was going to think we're talking about getting drunk today. Milk drunk, Yes, drunk. I used to do Martini mondays. On the show tell Us I have tell us tell Us how that came about. Yeah, So, I'm not sure if you have any experience with neonate animals or I think humans do it too. But when we're feeding a baby, essentially they get milk drunk when they're drinking, so they'll kind of like they're with kittens, like their little ears will twitch and then they'll slowly start to close their eyes and they'll still be suckling, but they'll be half asleep.

10:33 They essentially get drunk off of the milk. And it's kind of where the name comes from, especially since we do specialize in neonates. So all, like ninety of the animals that come into our care are still bottle feeding, so we have all of the little milk drunk babies that are well fed and happy. Oh so you do bottle feed and is there any other source set of food that you do give the babies. Yeah, so they're all bottle fed. So once they come in as neonates, which is under four technically under eight weeks old, but when they're under four weeks old. They are still bottle feeding. And then once they are weaned, all of our animals are weaned onto a raw diet which we buy from my Pelio pet. Oh wow, I did see video. I saw some babies eating it. What age would you say? They start eating it after four weeks? Amnia, that's incredible at four weeks everyone feeding raw? I mean, and this is the only foundation that I'm aware of that does this. You know that is incredible, Ladies, just incredible. You have your own journey to talk about, Michelle about if you want to tell us a little bit about your past and.

11:42 How it led you into the Milk Drunk Foundation. Yeah. Sure. I am a midwife, a nurse midwife. So originally I went to school to help human neonates and when I decided to retire because. We were moving out of the country. Long story short, came back to the States a few years later and decided that rather than helping human babies because I wanted to focus on my own children, I thought, why not help animal babies And that is what led me to fostering. And then as I was fostering, I realized. What we were just talking at the beginning with Bill, that you think you're helping these animals, and now that I'm saying that the rescue that I worked with before because I love them and we have a great collaboration, but I disagreed in many of the ways that they tackled certain issues and I wanted to do it a little bit differently. Still keeps coming on the screen. So that is how the Milk Drunk foundation started, we wanted to do what we wanted to do in a different way.

12:52 We wanted to be able to provide them the ballot and appropriate food, not just for the raw food, also for the milk because we had a lot of issues and even recently there was a recall on some of the puppy formula. So we do a combination and we use a lot of the raw milk products at mypeliopad to make our own milk as well as by colostrum. It is very very important for meonates that do not have mother's milk to have some of that colostrum, so we source all of that from my peliopet And I really do think that just having that little bit of a change, which seems minuscule, but in reality, it serves as the building block to allow for these animals to have success later on in life. And we have a huge live output rate because of it. A lot of the babies that would otherwise not make it somewhere else are making it with us because we are providing them the best possible nutrition.

13:50 Ever, so is it protocol or is it standard when someone adopts these babies that you ask them to continue on the journey of raw. We try our very best to educate and Abigail can probably tell you more about that, because I don't really do any adoption processing, so I don't know the exact number of families that decide to stick with the raw, but I do know that I have bumped into at least a dozen, most likely more now over the years of past adopters that continue to pump the purchase of food from my Peglio pet. But Abigail can tell you a little bit more about how that process is. Yeah, so we highly recommend to all of our adopters that they keep the pets on raw, especially since the neonates that.

14:34 Have been weaned onto it have been eating it for weeks already. They're used to it. Unfortunately, a solid chunk of our adopters don't. I would say probably out of every thirty one and thirty, we have had over seven hundred adoptions. So if we were to limit ourselves by only approving families that will feed raw, it would hinder the number of adoptions we'd be able to have. We do provide all of our adopters with a week's supply of the raw food that they're currently on, so they can transition them if they do decide to transition them to another diet. But we have noticed a couple of times during that one week transition they kind of learn about the raw and they're like, oh, this is actually kind of nice. And that's when the majority of them will then reach back out and be like, hey, like where did you guys get this from?

15:19 We want to keep doing this. Well, that's awesome because we're getting the word out. We really appreciate that. Of course. You know, I've been involved in in commercial raw foods. I actually introduced it to South Florida twenty years ago. We get celebrated twenty years and you know, as far as expanding that program and that sort of thing, Michelle talk to me, you know, we wanted to get more out there. You know, we're at a point now. Because we just moved our store, as you're familiar with, completely different look. Completely different feel. We've got some new people in there that are really highly excited about promoting our goals and our things, like we have the education the educational center coming in and we want to do that set up more and more programs.

16:06 I've got several new foods on them that I'm coming out with by the way to expand that selection. You know, when you look at raw diets in general, with all the other the bigger commercial ones and this sort of thing, you know you have a choice of three or four diets as all, no selection at all. And you know, I do like twenty five because that rotational diet is so important for building that gut bio diversity, vitamins, minerals, every food brings different things to the table, and that's part of the beauty of it. You know, I do the same thing even with my herbal products. I rotate, rotate, rotating because again different minerals, different vitamins, different nutrients, and different cleansing as well.

16:47 Cleansing is a big part of that too, by doing the rotation. I wanted to ask you, Michelle, how long has the foundation been in existence, because you said seven hundred adoptions that's amazing. I believe we officially incorporate in June of twenty two and the first year I think maybe we hit not even fifty adoptions. So it's been significantly an exponentially increasing year after year. And I understand that you don't have a physical place for people to go to, so how would people be able to adopt or foster these babies. You want to tackle. Goe abi sure. So all of our adoptable babies are posted online. It's on our website. If you look at our page, the Milk Drunk Foundation dot org, you can see all of the pets we have currently available for adoption. And if you're looking for something specific that you don't see listed on our site, you're more than welcome to shoot us an email or send us a message via Facebook or Instagram, and we'd be happy to send you photos of the babies we currently have available or ones that'll be available soon.

17:52 Being a foster based rescue, we do need to tackle the adoption process a little bit different than a traditional shelter would, so everything is done virtually. The adoption application is all online. Once we receive that, Michelle and I and the rest of our adoptions team runs background checks, we do vet references, and then we conduct a virtual home visit with that family. Once that process is fully complete and the applicant is fully cleared, we set up either a virtual meeting greet or an in person meeting greet where they can meet the pet, and if that all goes well, they're able to take the pet home that day, and then as for fostering, we provide all of the supplies, cover the cost of all medical care, and it's really just families that are open to providing a space in their homes to these pets, and we do all the rest of the work.

18:39 How long is the foster? I'm thinking for myself, how. Long I have to ask you? Because we're up against a break. You good question for after break. We'll be right back after it with commercial break. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be for poor nutrition, and My Pilio Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet, we provide fresh human brain USDA approved biocomplete raw food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for pets, we provide you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life. Our raw food for pets surpasses traditional raw dog food and cat food that you find in your local pet store. Our raw food is made fresh on the premises, source from local suppliers, and are made with only the utmost quality with specific nutritional and functional benefits.

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21:14 That health cafe to show you your pet of the voice, so that health Guru along with Michelle, my co host, and two fabulous guests from Milk Gronk Foundations. Michelle, you were asking them a question before we went to the break. I didn't mean to cut you off, but you know. How these breaks up. We have to make money anyway, and on this little phone, I can't even see myself, but that's I'm just curious about how many months do you allow people to foster or there's no set time, So we have. A minimum that we ask not because we're being rude, but because we want continuity of care for the pets.

21:58 You know, we don't want that is starting to decompress and starting to become social and learning that place where they are are it's safe, and then. We move them to a different home. So we do ask that you have a minimum of three weeks to give us before we have to find a new foster home. But you can foster for as long as you want, like in my case, because I don't have a choice. I've fostered three hundred. And sixty five days out of the year, and sometimes I have fostered three hundred and sixty six days. So it feels like anyway, you're two of you very hard workers. God bless the both of you. That's awesome work you're doing. I ablige you both.

22:40 Thank you so much. Yeah, that's Natty. Now, what I think that you and I have many many conversations on is about, you know, what rescues do sometimes as far as standard of care, and it's a bit of a conflict for those of us in the natural industry because some of those procedures, of course, involve removing body parts that are essential and things like that. But you've kind of worked around that in many many ways, which I was also teaching back in it probably fifteen years ago when I had my animal hospital. We couldn't get practitioners to do it. You want to tell you a little bit about what that procedure is. Yeah, So we do vasectomes.

23:24 Specific to canines, we do vasectoms and we do over it sparing space, so that in the human world it's like the equivalent of a hysterectomy for females and then the same of asectomy for males, so you cut the vast deference, but you're not actually removing the testes on a male dog. This allows for the preservation of their hormones so that they're able to grow without having any issues. You reduce the chances and risks of a lot of cancers. Of osteo issues also issue shoes, as well as behavioral issues that sometimes can come about from just the mere fact of pediatrically sterilizing these animals.

24:11 So I don't know if we are the. Only rescue because we really did have a hard time finding a provider willing to work with us, not just ondoing the procedures, but on the price, because there are quite a few. Providers nowaday, but the price is astronomical. So when I first started looking into it for my own personal pets, I paid upwards of seventeen eighteen hundred dollars for an over experienced pay for my personal labrador, which we couldn't possibly afford in the rescue setting. Because when we're charging an average a four hundred and fifty dollars adoption fee for a puppy and then you throw in an eighteen hundred dollars procedure. Where do we buy the raw food.

24:51 Where do we buy the minimum vaccines that we use because we do have to follow certain standards that the state requires. But still, you know, we need supplies. If you're talking about. Kiddies, we need litter, We need toys and leashes for the dogs, and harnesses and all the tea pads. You know, you go through so many pepads when you're training puppies. So when you have these procedures that are astronomically priced, then you really can afford to do the alternative. But we have been ever so lucky that we and Abigail has been surmountably helpful in helping me locate this network of people, Like we've literally built a bubble and we're so happy in it because we just have everything that we need, like the perfect veterinarian team that helps us with all of the cases that we have. They're supportive of us feeding raw. Then we have you Bill, who is able to provide us with so much food at such a such a discount.

25:52 We are so thankful. And then we have the amazing foster families that some times Bat and I are certain practices. Because you're not used to it, but it's so great when we. Have a foster family say hey, you know, I tried a little bit of the raw food that we had for our puppies, and our dogs like it, and we decided to switch them. It feels like, you know, we've gained an ally without really trying, Like we're just showing them why it's better, without pushing them to do it, and they just kind of organically do it themselves. And it's it's very rewarding to see it happen right in front of your eyes. Wow, yes, it really is. I mean, you know I experienced them obviously on a daily basis. I know that we've been watching with the new store almost every day we have new clients, and of course you know that we also promote that same good health to pet parents, because if you're not a healthy pet parent, how can you take care of your baby, you mean or animal.

26:55 I wanted to help Base. You know, Bill, I didn't know if you had men prior because I wasn't on the pet babies that you deal with. They have a few little abnormalities, nothing major. I wanted you to explain that to our audience. You know, maybe you can get into the cleft palates, the congenital things like that. Yeah, so you will take it, yeah, yeah. So the abnormalities that we see in animals really does vary. We take in a lot of different special needs animals, a lot of animals that come in from the shelter that need iron nucleations, or need amputations or a million different things. But a big group, a big chunk of our special needs pets are our cleft pallette puppies. These puppies are all breeder surrenders because they cannot nurse from their mother.

27:49 But we have had one or two come from the shelter, it's not as common. So essentially, a cleft palette is when they have a hole on the roof of their mouth that connects basically their mouth to their knees cavity, so any liquid or anything that they eat will essentially just go right up into their nose. And as newborns, they cannot be bottle fed, they cannot nurse from their mother because that will just cause aspiration will go up their nose and then into their lungs and then unfortunately developed pneumonia, a bunch of different things. It's not good. They can't be fed that way. So all of our klefft babies are strictly tube fed until they're weaned, and once they're weaned, they weaned straight onto raw food, just as all the other animals and our rescue do, and they absolutely thrive. It's actually something I personally was really surprised by when I had my first Klofty.

28:33 Michelle was kind of like, oh, just give him raw and I'm like, what. Do you mean, Like it's gonna go up his nose, Like, I can't do that. I'm so shocked. It completely worked. It didn't go up his nose. He just ate it and a little bit would get stuck in his cluff palate and he could kind of like just use his tongue to scoop it out. And we've actually had a lot of adopters with our Cloft's where the puppies are being fed, we're on our rescue, they're doing great, and then they adopt them and they transition them to kibble or they transition them to another type of fresh food, and they're like, oh, like we're. Having all the issues. We're going in and out of the vet. They're having your eyes, they're having this and that, and it's because it doesn't work with they're cleft as well as the wall does. I truly don't really understand why, like what the difference is.

29:16 It just really does work, and all of our clefties really have thrived on it. Luckily, aside from the cleft palate, most of them are just regular happy puppies and once they figure out that eating around four weeks old, they really thrive. That's beautiful. Yeah. One of the problems that you have off with kibble and even a lot of the commercial fresh food is the high carbohydrate amount and that has a tendency to stick because of the basically the gluten glue and we'll stick in net palette and of course the dry food then starts absorbing moisture and expa and basically.

30:02 Plugging up that hole. But that's not a good way to plug up that hole. You know, we want to do it naturally by rebuilding the tissue, which is really what happens with when you're on a good raw diet and you know, proper botanicals and things of that nature to detox and build a mineral base for the for the animal. Minerals are the basis for all of this stuff, and it's you know, I mean, I know Michelle talking with you over a dozen a dozen dozens of the cases you know where oh they're you know, we're three weeks in, four weeks in, five weeks in, and now they're like normal. And that's that's that's a testament to the success. It's like the things that have happened with cancer is the same thing we take them off with kid, but we put them onto a raw diet, a few different herbs and botanicals, and the next thing, you know, the vents are going like, I don't know what you did, but maybe keep trying it.

30:53 Why don't you try to learn, you know, from. You know, from people that are that know, from the practical you know, you and I, Michelle, we've been doing this together. You know, I guess you probably you found us right away because I didn't know that you were in business that short period of time. To be honest, it was like, where are you been for like twenty years that I've. Been doing this? Yeah. I as soon as we decided that we were going to start the rescue, I wanted to make sure that we were going to operate at the way that we wanted to operate. I didn't want to be kind of caught with my pants down, like here we are. We want to do this, but we can't afford it, which is the reason why I started to panic initially about the sterilization methods because I wanted to make sure that we had a provider that was going to work with our pricing. But yeah, I think we came across my Peliopet online. I just was looking for rough food providers and at the time, I was purchasing food for my dogs from a different provider, but then I found you.

31:53 So I've switched over the majority of our pets are eating strictly my pelio pet. You know, we we buy the a bunch of your blends for special cases as well, you know, depending on what we may have. You know, we've had puppies like you said, where we had. That's completely stumped because they had all these congeneral issues or what we thought were congeneral issues, and really just by adding the botanicals, adding the herbs, adding the row food, they just organically got better. And then we have the vets trying to wonder what just happened, Like we had X. Rays four weeks ago and the dog looked horrific, And then now we have X rays four weeks later, and what.

32:35 Did you do? We just ft the dog, just them. Back when I started in the business, we didn't have powerful virus. Okay that was that was a man made, man induced xing induced pathology. And we none of us knew what to do. And I just went back to my Our veterinarians couldn't help us right now, so I went back to my health basis. You know something, you got to feed the dog. You have to build energy. And we did hambiger and rise back then, and we did some media wize some honey and had a ninety nine percent success rate when the veterinarians were having less than thirty percent. It's like, you have to feed them, do the right stuff that way, and you know, if you as long as we go back to the basics, the body regenerates, we're going to be right back after.

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35:10 You're muted. I'm sorry, not me this time. Thank goodness. Chool and Abigail and Michelle, our special guests with the Beltbrook Foundation. Hopeay, Michelle, you had a question for them, Yes, so, Abigail, I understand that you do most of the educating for the foundation. Talk about where you educate and what are the topics. Obviously it's about your foundation, but where do you usually do this and to home? Yeah, So a big part of our education and promotion really is digitally, so via our social media. We try to make sure that all of our social media posts are focused specifically on not only our rescue, the animals that are in our rescue, but kind of they're special cases, really promoting them and promoting our values and what we believe in as an organization. I have done a couple of other promotional events and just educational events events. We've done a lot of adoption events where we'll bring pets out into the public to promote them for adoption and also educate our community.

36:20 I've also spoken at a couple. Of schools and libraries to kind of just educate the public not only on fostering and adopting, but also spay and neuter things like that, just trying to help reduce our pet overpopulation issue. That we're to invite you both throughout our education center at the store, and you'll be able to bring your pets and we'll have an adoption dare well. I have it of showing up and distracting my whole staff for. But anyway, it's it's because it's refreshing, because people ask questions and things of that age. You know, Vede Michelle invited you, and of course I have as well. We want to put together better programs with you and extorting.

37:06 But one of the things I want to do for this hour goodbye is so fast. I want you to tell our audience everybody out there, how can they help you, how can they reach you, and what are the best best ways to do that? Yeah, so they can go right on our website sorry, the Milk Drunk Foundation dot org. Our email is high like hi, hello at the Milk Drunk Foundation dot org. We both have access to the email. So if Abigail is able to reply, our reply. We have a couple other volunteers that will also reply to emails on a daily basis, so most likely that not if you email us today, we're going to reply today or by the next day. Social media, Abby that is her fortege. She does all the social media. You can contact us on Facebook, on Instagram. We do have a TikTok that we're not super active on it, but we do have a TikTok as well. So everything is at the Milk Drunk Foundation, including the website. It's just dot org instead of dot com.

38:07 Awesome, that's fantastic. I mean, yeah, I mean because it's all about getting the word out. I mean, that's why I do. I've been doing this podcast for just my eighteen season. Believe it or not. There weren't even podcasts when I started this. It was internet radio. And my friends all said, why did you go on internet radio? Nobody's ever going. To watch the internet and now with what we are, but yeah, it's like you know, and of course I still maintain and was shelped to verify this. I maintain a very high profile in the shore because I that's my passion is helping people. I'm out there all the time. And you know what, my accountant yells at me, you know, my lawyers yell at me. He was yell yells at me that.

38:50 I needed this report yesterday. What were you doing the customers. I'm always sad when I don't see Bill at this story because then I can't ask him questions. We're can that. Everybody says, I got one question for you? What is it like Michelle, we're. Can I have a blow up this score and you're going to press the button and he's going to answer your question, but from afar. So this way he can get a little bit of you know, R and R. I don't know. I wanted to ask, and we spoke about this prior who said that you would be happy to tell the people how much you know, whether they anticipate as far as cost to adopt one of your kittens or your your puppies, if you could get into that a little bit.

39:44 Yeah, so all of our kittens have an adoption fee of one seventy five. We do occasionally have adoption promotions if we receive a grant we were able to reduce those fees, and we do consider reduce adoption fees if people adopt two kittens, because they really do thrive in a pair. And for our puppies, the basic option fee is four fifty for mixed breed puppies, and then it's a one thousand dollars option fee for cleft palette puppies since they really do require extra care long term. And yeah, that's pretty much it does. Are the fees? How long do you keep the kleftis I like the word? Yeah? How long do you keep those before you adopt them out?

40:24 It does depend on the specific puppy. Some are a little bit more fragile than others, Like you'll see them and they'll be slightly smaller or just struggling a little bit to gain weight. So those will usually stay with us until they're about twelve to fourteen weeks, but usually they'll be adopted around the time of eight to ten weeks. And is it typical for someone to get the surgery for the It. Depends on the specific puppy. Certain puppies do require the surgery. However, the majority of our puppies have been able to thrive without it, specifically the ones that are Federal diet. A lot of the ones that are transitioned onto kible do require the surgery. Wow, that's the whole in itself. Yeah, what I want to ask you to because we've had like seven minutes, six minutes left here, what have been some of your best successes in some of your happiest moments.

41:12 All of it. That's that's a tricky one. I will say, it's a really difficult thing to do. Sometimes were the Molk Jump Foundation we're entirely volunteer based, so all of the time that me and Michelle put into it, it's just we're taking the time out of our day, out of our lives to put this do this work. Probably we each do around forty hours a week of just processing adoptions, coordinating with fosters, and it is a lot. It can be overwhelming at times, and you kind of like lose focus of what you're doing and the reason why you're doing it. But I think one of the most meaningful things to me has been I would I currently go to the University of Florida and I met a friend and I'm there hanging out with him, and he tells me that his best friends from back home opted one of the cats from our rescue And just hearing that, like that connection, just like it blew my mind and it really realized that the work we're doing here, like each individual, each animal, it's going into someone's home, it's becoming someone's best friends. And although it's really hard to do, and although some adopters can be frustrating or fosters it gets very overwhelming, it's one hundred percent worth it, and I would do it again a million times over.

42:24 Just to make someone's day. It really changes not only the animal's life, but the family that's adopting them. Now, Michelle, I want to say make one comment here. You know this show is where your pet is a voiage. Why do you think your cat keeps jumping into the screen He. Really wants to say something with his tail And that's my fust. One thing. Is there one thing in Michelle that stands out in your mind over the years you've been doing this to. Me is the fact that we've gotten is reputation out there that if it's broken and dying, we can save it.

43:04 And to have that reputation is unbelievable. Like we get so many calls of babies that are at the brink of death literally and they say the Milk Drunk Foundation just contact them and if anyone can save them, it's them. And it's not because we are special in any way. It's just what we do and the methods that we use, which you know most of it comes from your store. Do you have babies? Because I can't tell you the number of holistics that's uh euro several that we work with that they do consultation on nutrition or homeopathy or holistic care and at the end of the day, it's like they're prescription in the right seabill.

43:55 Do your baby? Why do they come from nation and wide? Yeah? Actually we have not that. We love to do that because I prefer to help local. You know, we're here, so we're gonna help babies that are here. But we have in a few cases if we saw a case of a puppy or a kitten that really needed our help. I think Abigail herself has driven across the state line. To pick up a cleftic kitten. We flew a puppy. I don't know if Bill remember, So we flew a puppy that had an anomaly in his private area from Texas because they didn't know what to do and he was going to be euthanized, and we had a similar case, so we had the perfect setup for him and we flew him in from Texas. So we have taken puppies from other states and brought them into our care, and we also adopt out out of state. So one of our last clefties, who is currently still on the raw food, was adopted in New York City and she's thriving.

45:00 You know, it's it's where we're up against against the end of the show here. First off, I want to say I want to thank both of you from the bottom of my heart, number one coming on the show, but number two for believing in us, and it gives me great pride to be able to help you in any way we can. Uh as you mentioned, you know, we help you with price sing and think of that nature. I'm looking forward to expanding that program. You know, we've discussed having events at the at the store, having adoptions there as well. It's just you know, we're still in the process of building, and then of course as soon as we get the education center build, you know, we. Want to have you there and help us out. And again, thank you, thank you very much.

45:46 And you know, for everybody that's watching tonight and listening, first off, I want to tell both of you go ahead and share this video Spenny Places as you can, because you know it's going to change lives and that's what you and I are about. The four of us. We're here for them, not for us. Thank you for coming on and with d You're welcome. Good Night everyone that was watching, thank you, thank you, thank. You, ayod night night. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible. My pellio pet is the answer. Let us help relieve your pet of your infections, elegies, scratching and itching, diabetes, joint problems, cancer, and other ailments by providing our naturally raised, rock, clicked or frozen biocomplete natural dietand trees that are custom formulated to be species specific and USDA approved. For more information, visit mypeliopet dot com. Are called nine five four nine seven one two five zero zero. Do you want to become a wholesale dealer or distributor of healthy and clean foods?

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