July 10, 2025

Why Do Our Pets and WE Get UTI's and How to Prevent Them

Why Do Our Pets and WE Get UTI's and How to Prevent Them
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Season 17

As a regular guest on Pet Health Cafe, he is always able to bring insight and new discoveries from a different perspective to add to our health journey. He shows how UTI's happen and we discuss how drugs like antibiotics can cause life-changing effects & how natural nutrition cures and prevents. ANSWERS finally!

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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,

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Bill the Pet Health Guru, And.

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Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your

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Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru,

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people living people out there. It always helps us out

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a lot. And with that being said, tackling today a

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problem that seems to be a bigger health issue than

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is really out there stated in the general public. But

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we see a lot of it built in our pets

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and in our human population. And if any of you

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saw the lead in, yes, it's a show on urinary

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trek infections and with me tonight is going to be

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my special guest, Morley Robbins. How you doing? You made

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it okay now, Morley, But.

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I realized what I was doing wrong. I forgot to

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allow myself to get into the system. So yeah, everything

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was fine.

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I was yelling, plug the computer in. Plugged.

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The problem was plugged the human in.

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I know, plug the human in. Plut the human in.

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So how you doing? You got back from your your

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little whorl Win worldwide trip.

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We had a very successful trip to France and England

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and that was a lot of fun, a lot of work,

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but it was also a lot of fun. Good And

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then we're going to be down in another foreign country Louisiana.

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Oh yes, oh you were down there? And did you

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stop in and see a good friend our engineer and producer.

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No, she's going to be mad at me because I was.

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Now I'm going to tell her on the last show,

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I started to let her jump in here when she

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wants to make comments, so you might be in trouble.

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I was late here and I didn't tell where I

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was coming.

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So anyway, as I mentioned, were you know you you

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send me a note said, uh, you've got some information

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on UTIs, and I think in the in the very

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beginning here, uh, you know you're urinary track infections. My

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first question is is it really an infection?

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Often? Okay, it's a real deal, and I think it's

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each year. I mean, the numbers are really staggering. Two

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hundred million Americans have some form of kidney issue during

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the course of the year. It's it's two it's almost

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two thirds of the country. It's just like, yeah, wow, number,

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the numbers are mind boggling. I've forgotten how many people

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get just UTIs, but it's a very big number. I

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don't know what what the incidence is in the well,

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but I would imagine it does exist in a surely

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prominent way as well.

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Well. Actually it's it's it's a commonly diagnosed issue. But

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the reason I ask that question right at the very beginning,

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Is it really an infection? Is because generally speaking, when

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they do cultures on urine with when they diagnose UTIs,

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and of course after they've prescribed a ton of antibiotics, uh,

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there's no you know, there's there's no uh, bacterial infection,

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which makes the antibiotics useless. It's actually it's more harmful

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than good. But is it is it that it's a

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real infection or more of an inflammation, you know, endocrine

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type problem, which as you know with endocrine and minerals

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and hormones, it's that that's a that's a really tight bond,

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if you will, No, I.

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Think it's a that's a good insight. The part that

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a lot of people don't know about is that the

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endocrine system and then so they're they're pumping out hormones.

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Then we've got all sorts of neuropeptides in signaling peptides

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and neurotransmitters, and they all need to be activated. And

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every mechanism I know of to activate chemicals like that

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require copper. So if you're down on copper, as most

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people are, as most pets are, then you've lost a

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major mechanism for keeping the organism in balance. And it's

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just like, you know, we grew up with Sony Walkman's

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that were back powered by batteries and when the battery

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ran down, do we go to us a Walkman doctor

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or did we just replace the battery? And in the

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modern era, we're trained to go to a Walkman doctor.

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Yeah, say that.

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No, it's just what we don't know that all we

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have to do is replace the copper in our diet

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to get the system to start chiming again. That's that's

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the long and the short of it. It's almost too simple,

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but that's really what's going on.

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Right, Yeah, And you know, of course when we start,

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when you start looking at that and how we have

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to balance out the body, that all starts with detoxification, right,

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and clean nutrition, clean nutrients that are actually a part

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of what we should be eating, not what we've been

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told by a pyramid. You know, it's upside down by

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the way. But uh, you know, so when we're starting

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out with with a number of issues that are creating this.

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But I think that the unfortunate part of this bill

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is that the days of clean food are gone that

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oh I buy my food, it's all organic, and I

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don't have to worry about it. It doesn't exist anymore,

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I don't know. And they've they've dem lie both say

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as a organic compound.

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Yeah, isn't it amazing?

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No, it's it's I think it's it is an indication

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of the times. That's how it's.

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It's it's actually hideous. It's it's you know, it's beyond explanation.

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I mean in in my realm and in near realm

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as well, that they would allow that same thing with

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UH the appeal preservative now being even though it has

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two chemicals that are completely banned in organic food after

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you just approved it as organic. Yeah, for use an example. Actually,

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what they I think, how they're getting around with a

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lot of around with a lot of this is they're

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not calling an ingredient. They're actually saying, well, this is

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just part of the processing of it. And that's how

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they allow so much of it. It's it's you know,

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playing games with the language.

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It's it's unbelievable. It makes it makes no sense at all.

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And so what I've got, what I've got behind me

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is a chart that is from a wonderful article from

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UH clinicians here in North Carolina on UTI and they

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really drill into what causes the UTI. Now I'm looking

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at it looks like it's backwards. Is that right? Is

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it showing up backwards?

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No, I can redefine.

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You see the word urine area. Then yeah, okay, all right,

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So so what we've got here.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, you can pull it in

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a little bit closer. That that's a lot better. A

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little bit of glare, little glare.

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Yeah, how to cut that monitor?

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Yeah, you're fine.

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So I've got here is this is the bladder, and

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then we have what are called it's called the eurohelium

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and it's it's a layer of cells between the bladder,

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and then you have urine right here, right, and so

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these cells are protecting us. They're very smart cells or

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epithelial cells that are in the in the urine air track.

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And this little squiggly thing here, it's this is the E. Coli.

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It's urine area. I've forgotten what the piece stands for,

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but Asherisa Coli. That's the bacteria that causes ninety percent

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of the infections. So that's the bad guy. And then

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what we've got here is this tissue here has the

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capacity to release copper, which is very important and it

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can also manufacture seruloplasma, which is amazing. And for those

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who have been following our conversations, they know that ceruloplasma, Yeah,

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you're fine. The serulo plasma is the copper protein that

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I think it's the brains of the outfit. To be honest,

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I think it's a very very important part of our

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anatomy that very few people know about. But here's the

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most important part is that the copper and just the

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protein itself stop the E. Coli. But then it goes

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one step farther. What Ceruloplasmi's gift to the world is

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it's able to cycle and change the valance of iron.

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What what the what the pathogen wants is plus two iron.

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It's called ferrous iron. And what ceruloplasma does is it

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oxidizes that iron. It turns it into a plus three.

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It takes away an electron and then the iron can't

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be used by the pathogen and it can be put

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back into circulation to help the iron recycling system. And

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so we have three separate functions that are designed to

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kill the pathogen. And here's the catch this is this

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is the genius of mother nature knowing how to use

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copper and copper is the anti microbial element. It kills

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all pathoges, fungus, virus, bacteria, and parasites. It doesn't care.

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Nobody was talking about that in twenty twenty because that

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was very, very disruptive to the narrative. But the thing

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is this capacity exists naturally in our body when we

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have copper and retinol in our regular diet. Now, our

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great grandparents had it a lot easier. It was much

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easier to find copper and retinol in the diet back

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in the day. When you go back seventy five hundred

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years ago, there wasn't we didn't have the competition with

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ConAgra and all these big mega farming companies and food companies.

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But here's where it gets really unsettling. And you mentioned

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that when someone gets a urinary track infection, they get

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an antibiotic. Well, what's the name of that antibiotic. There's

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a there's a go to antibiotic that choose for almost

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all urinary track infection. Do you know what it is?

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Today? It keeps changing, Like on my side anyway, the

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veterinary side, he keeps changing.

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Okay, Well, on the human side, it's called CIP pro floxen.

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Yes shortened to cippro cipro.

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And so the F in floxen means it's activated by fluoride.

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Any drug that has an effinite any drug that has

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an effinite means it's been activated with fluoride. Why is

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that a problem, Because the fluoride keelates copper, So then

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the cippro is locking the copper. It's destabilizing the ceruloplasmi

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and then it's it's using its own properties to kill

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the pathogen. And you think, well, that's great, you got

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the pathogen. But it's it's wiping out copper.

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Status in humans and recurring, which.

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Is why they're recurring. And people who take cipro very

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often have tendonaires because the connective tissue in our body

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is kept in a very strong and flexible state by

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one enzyme called lyceeal oxidase. Ly cel oxidase is copper dependent,

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and what does cipro do It sucks the copper out

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of lycele oxidase, so that people get tendentars, they get

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a order ruptures, all sorts of problems that follow cipro.

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And back in the day when we were up in Chicago,

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doctor Liz had a client who is a world class

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bicycler who used to hang out with a guy named

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Lance Armstrong and he got a UTI and he got cipro.

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Guess what happened, eruptured his achilles tendon. Never to ride

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a bike again. Life changing experience for this young man.

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He was in his plate twenties, and so his whole

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life was changed in an instant. And I appreciate the

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chance to have this conversation with you because I think

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this is a very common event. It's not understood in

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the sense that there is a natural way to stop this,

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and there's a very unnatural way to stop it, which

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has profound secondary and tertiary effects on people's lives.

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a lot of different herbals and botanicals and things like that.

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We actually do do waytile completely do a urinary blend

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that seems to knock out UTIs in two to three days,

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almost one hundred percent of the time. Well, of course,

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what are we doing. We're feeding natural minerals through the herbs, right,

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which is obviously carrying a fair amount of coppers in

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a usable.

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Forms, and it's allowing ceruoplasma to be made in the

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animal's body and then you've got it. Yeah, and that's

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that's beautiful, and that's as it should be. And the

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challenge we face is I think over time, even those

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sacred herbals are going to become less and less and

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less potent as the impact of commercial farming takes over

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the land on the planet.

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Yeah. Well, it's interesting because since you've been on last,

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I think I've been on another tear. One of my

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usual rants, and that when we really look at plant,

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the plant based diets that we consume, and it's actually

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that has put forth in it in modern agriculture and

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of course the supermarket generation. Almost none of these vegetables

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existed two thousand years ago. They're all man made, so

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they're not going to work the same way what you know, herbs,

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at least herbs and most of the botanicals were here

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two thousand years ago. They haven't been altered, so at

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least we're starting out at a better, much better base,

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if you will. And uh, you know, of course what

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you mentioned too, with modern agricultural practices and uh, you know,

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factory farming and uh, just a poor soil, you know,

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using it as you know, depleting the soil and of

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course in the chemtrails, the weather modification, all that stuff.

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It's making it a much greater challenge for all of.

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Us, Absolutely true. Yeah, And I think what people don't

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I don't think they really grasp how much farming has

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changed the availability of minerals in the food. No, and

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it's just it's very discouraging to even think about much.

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Let's talk about and yet that's our reality. It's just

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another silent toxin that we have to put up with.

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course now is one of the other things that we're

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being faced with. On the old side, of course, number one,

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pharmaceutical companies are actually buying up a lot of the

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good quality herbals that are out there crops and basically

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burial so that they're not available. But on the other side,

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is herbals become more popular and prevalent in the in

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use the demand is is basically taking what used to

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be a maybe a hobby crop or a small farm

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individual farm that was raising certain herbs and botanicals and

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now taking commercializing that as well. On the same deplete soil,

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using the same fertilizers and in many cases using some

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of the same pesticides and herbicides and fungicides and all

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of that that we're seeing in other crops, and it's

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making it much more difficult for us to control that.

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I was listening to podcasts this morning on using natural

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colors and how they use a lot of vegetable matter

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and a lot of herbal products without and up to

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in some some of the harvests, up to seventy five

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percent of the harvests can't be used to make the

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colors because of the heavy metal pollution that's actually in

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the herb today. And you know that's you know which

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is going to which is one of the things that

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leads to these natural colors being a lot more expensive

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because you're dumping half the crop or two thirds of

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the crop, three quarters of the crop because it can't

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be used in this type of operation. We're going to

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We're talking about Copper and UTI's and a lot of

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the things that are going to surround that. Again, we

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be happy to try to try to answer whatever we can.

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And during the break, I'm sitting there thinking as I'm

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thinking about UTIs and One of the best things that

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we can do, uh to help, of course is good water,

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good clean ionized water, because you know it's got minerals

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in it and then haven't been stripped out. And of

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course if you take the floor ride out of it,

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you know that that addresses part of what you mentioned, uh,

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with the medication. But when we're talking about even gardens

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and plants and growing your own stuff and the challenges

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with that. If you're using city water, treated water in

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a more urban area, suburban area, you're watering your plants

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with fluorinated water, right, so that fluoride is actually in

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the plants themselves. And of course if you're buying the

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when you're buying your vegetables, what are they using to

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wash the vegetables to keep them moist in the store,

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So that fluoride component is even bigger than we originally suspected, isn't.

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It much bigger? Yeah? And you know, if they really

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wanted to improve our health, they would stop that.

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Yeah. Well, here in Florida it has supposedly has stopped.

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We'll see though.

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I'll be impressed if it actually happened.

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I know, Well, they have to use up all the

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surplus that's there. I mean that was probably written into

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the law too. You know, whatever we have, you let

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us use it up, even though it's like a two

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year supply. You know, that's the way government works.

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No, George is asking a fair question. Is there any

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way to avoid these things? Yeah, but you've got to

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leave a pretty pristine life. It's not easy to completely

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detach yourself from modern society. And you've got a private

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well that you can keep track of, so much the better.

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If you've got land that you can grow your own

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food on, so much the better. The problem we've got

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now is that lifosate is in the air. It's not

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just being sprayed on commercial crop, it's it's everywhere, right,

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and then there's all sorts of spraying taking place, you know,

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around the world. We don't we don't know what they're using.

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There's all sorts of speculation about that. So again we're

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not trying to say there's a snake under every rock,

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but there is a lot of stuff out there. What

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we need to do is to get healthy. There's two

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ways to get healthy. You've got to attack the guests.

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This is the guest. These are guests. You got to

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attack those guests. But you've got to strengthen the host.

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And that's really what this chart is about. How do

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we strengthen our natural immune system to stave off these

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types of events. And I think the the medical system

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as we know it is solely focused on how to

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attack guests. There's very little attention given to how do

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we restore metabolism, energy production, immune function. And it's very straightforward.

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You've got to mineralize the body. You've got to bring

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the nutrients back in and allow the body to do

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what it does best. It knows once it's able to

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make energy, it knows exactly what to do. Yes, allowing

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that to.

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Happen now, I mean you and I have had some

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conversations about it, and you know, as far as supplementation

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is concerned and stuff like that. You know, the problem

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with most of the supplement companies out there are actually

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run by or manufactured by the drug companies. Pharmaceutical companies.

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A lot of garbage, a lot of toxic you know,

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binders and anti cake agents and you know, lubri cans

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and all this stuff that goes on the back side

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of it. That number one negates the benefit that we

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might be getting. But also when you're taking a straight supplement. Listen,

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just copper. If it's not in the right form, if

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it's not in a bioavailable form, you can literally throw

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off everything else, can't you.

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And that's why you've got to be really thoughtful about

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what you put in the body and make sure you're

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aligning yourself with programs like the Root Cause Protocol that

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have gone out of their way to deal with that

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static and try to neutralize exposure to those types of additives.

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It's a full time job, unfortunately. I mean the days

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of I'm taking it one a day and you've covered

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all your bases that went out with the fifties, and yeah,

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it's been a long time since we've had that kind

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of latitude.

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Well in the fifties, I mean we were still eating

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fairly clean food though too. That's a big big thing.

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It was almost like one of the vitamins was, you know,

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a set up to get us to take a whole

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bunch more later on down the road, because they knew

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what they were doing. Farmer companies, the chemical companies knew

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what they were already going to be doing to our

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crops and our food supply. You know, they were already

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doing extracts of everything, you know, between tearing apart the

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milk and all the good benefits of it and all

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of that and giving us some sort of chemical concoction

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that they call milk instead of raw milk. I mean,

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you know the same thing with meat. You know, all

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meat used to be grass finished. Now, you know, to

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find grass finished meat is next to impossible. And even

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when you do, they've manipulated the pastures with certain grasses,

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and you know, you still don't know if it's pest

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aside free, if it's actually actually you can't you almost

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cannot get a certified organic pasture anymore, for no other

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reason than weather modification and chemtrails.

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Yeah, no, no, I guess it is not the best

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we can and we bless the food that we eat

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and just hope for the best.

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Yeah, it's amazing that I find it's amazing that the

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body and not just ours. I mean I'm talking about

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all basically all animals and actually the most plant life

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has adapted to a point, whether the storm, if you will,

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just to stay alive, you know, I talk about you know,

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even like people that hunt and fish. You know, if

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you hunted, you thought, you know, you got yourself a deer.

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You know, I have clean meat, clean protein for you know,

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a good portion of my at least the winter. But

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today those deer around eating the GMO crops, you know,

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and even if they're not, you know, and it's the

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area around it, even if they're eating the native vegetation

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around it, that's still continus. The glory floss eight and

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who knows what else. And you know, I just saw

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that the e p A release that I used to

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talk about the eighty thousand chemicals on the list is

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now well over one hundred thousand. And you know, it's

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like you said, we have no way of knowing even

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what what we're fighting. And you know, with my you know,

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with what I do with herbals and botanicals, I mean,

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I've gone to this, you know, my formulations on these

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specific verbs are what we need to do. I'm going

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to a greater variety, more diversity, because we have to

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attack it from different ructions. And we don't really know

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what we're attacking anymore. It's all, you know, we're you know,

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shooting in the dark.

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But that's always been my observation about erbyls and botanicals

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is we don't really know what is what they're doing?

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We don't. We don't. We haven't been able to open

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up the black box to say exactly what are they doing?

462
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.519
You know some of some of it, which is that's beautiful,

463
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.359
but it's also okay. You know. One thing that I

464
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.640
really harnessed myself to is what are the mechanisms of

465
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:04.160
action to improve energy production and immune function? I can,

466
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.200
I can cite chapter and verse all the different enzyme

467
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.839
pathways for many of them, and do all do those

468
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.160
erbyls work? I don't know. That's why I to go

469
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.720
after specific metriance the way that I do.

470
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.720
Yeah, And that's a good thing, because I don't look

471
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.200
at using herbals like as a medicine, if you will.

472
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.839
I know that I'm providing in that nutritional profile that

473
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.200
a number of different you know, sometimes literally you know,

474
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:36.720
dozens and dozens and dozens of different micronutrients, enzymes, uh,

475
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.200
and of course the minerals in a bioble available fashion,

476
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.119
which is also the biggest problem. You know when we

477
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.839
see you see you know all the label said iron

478
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.880
well was it you know, are you chewing on a

479
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.079
rusty piece of steel or is it in a form

480
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.039
that you can actually use, you know, the copper the

481
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.119
same way. I mean, it's got to be. If it's

482
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.640
not usable, we're actually screwing up the System's.

483
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.279
Right, Yeah, how can I fight? And we don't know

484
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:11.720
the opponent. The opponent, the system that upon the deep

485
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.480
state is the opponent. And I think what you have

486
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.319
to do is find people like Bill, like myself who

487
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:24.519
are devoted to allowing the original factory settings of the organism,

488
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.599
the animals and the humans to regain their supremacy. And

489
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.279
it's very easy to get overwhelmed by the magnitude. You know,

490
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.119
there's a lot of things out there that we can

491
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.960
get really worked up about. Just focus on how you

492
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:43.079
can deal with your stress, how you can have a

493
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:47.599
very balanced diet. I tend to what I recommend typically

494
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.200
is just follow the Western eat price diet. They know

495
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.720
what they're talking about, and I think what you advocate

496
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.640
is very similar to that for the animals, and just

497
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:03.039
make sure that the key nutriants that run the metabolic

498
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.920
pathways and the immune pathways are being fed, and then

499
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.480
just get out of the way. And I think the

500
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.759
mistake that a lot of people make is they think

501
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.599
they have to over manage the situation. No, you just

502
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.079
have to be very selective about what you put in

503
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.559
your body and let the body do what it knows

504
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:22.799
how to do best well.

505
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.920
And you know one of the things, of course, you've

506
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.559
been in my store, and you know you've hurt me,

507
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:28.359
and we've been on the show together a lot. One

508
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.400
of the biggest things, not only with herbals and botanicals,

509
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.880
but just with food in general, is that diversity. You

510
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.559
have to vary that food as much as possible. Absolutely

511
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.680
in store, I talk about this a lot. You know,

512
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.119
I'm a carnivore type. I'd like a great steak. But

513
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.759
you know, when you look at at the good steaks,

514
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.839
you look at the filet, you look at the ribbi,

515
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.559
you look at the New York strip, they all taste different.

516
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.480
They're all different muscles, even though they're in the same

517
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.359
cluster together, they have different functions and be one of

518
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.640
the reasons it tastes different is they do have different nutrients.

519
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.079
So when you eat one one day and eat another

520
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.119
one another day, you just got something else that your

521
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.079
body maybe just like dying for actually and literally dying

522
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.920
for because it needed that nutrients. And by doing that diversity,

523
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.440
you're always getting a little bit extra of something again

524
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.599
in the bioavailable form right.

525
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.160
Absolutely, and it's just it's a day at a time,

526
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.200
and do it more and more. It becomes a way

527
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.960
of life and you don't have to worry about it

528
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:33.440
as much.

529
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.559
Yeah, exactly, We're gonna take another quick break here so

530
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.759
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550
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Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where

551
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:25.840
your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet

552
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.079
Health Guru along with Morley Robbins, my mineral specialist. I

553
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.840
quote you a lot in the store. I usually as

554
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.280
a reference point all the time, pointing to your book.

555
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.039
It's like, you know, you know, we're we try to

556
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.239
stay on top of that and appreciate you know. It's

557
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.039
you know, when we're trying to talk to clients in

558
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:48.639
the store. Of course, you know, I've got a thousand

559
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:52.599
products in there, and it's so easy to miss one

560
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:56.199
or two or three. And I joke around with clients

561
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.159
a lot that you know, I wander around a little

562
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.920
bit because there's a there's a hunt of little gems

563
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.199
in there, and of course because all this stuff is

564
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.559
small and I use the analogy. You know, they're little

565
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.239
bottles in their little jars with little labels. It's not

566
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.559
like walking into Costco where you get one hundred inch

567
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.679
TV blasting in your face. You know, you have to

568
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.920
kind of do a little bit of looking and research

569
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.400
and that sort of thing. But going back to the

570
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:26.119
UTI thing, now, you explained how the function, how the

571
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:30.559
body functions very very well. How okay, in order for

572
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.639
that to happen in a healthy way, the body is

573
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.239
taking minerals from other quite often from other parts of

574
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.280
the body and has to move it around to be

575
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.079
able to defend itself. How does you know how does

576
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.719
that lack that deficiency of copper or that the fact

577
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.239
that it's bound and tied up. How does that affect

578
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.920
other functions and other parts of the system.

579
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.639
That's a scary thought, to be honest, I mean I

580
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.840
put it into context. There was a world renowned metal

581
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.960
biologist at Florida State University and his name was Earl Freedan.

582
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:11.159
He was kind of the dean of metal biology on

583
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.159
the planet for about forty years. He was a major

584
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.559
major player. But he had a special interest in copper

585
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:25.119
and iron, and especially in this Seruloplasma thing, and he

586
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:28.320
wrote an article in nineteen seventy one that was very

587
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:33.400
very important. And there's a level of ceruloplasma and there's

588
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.320
an activity, so level would be like our height, activity

589
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:41.760
is our IQ. And just because someone is tall doesn't

590
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.639
mean they're smart, right, And so the blood testing that's

591
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.360
done today is all about height, nothing about IQ. And

592
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.400
what doctor Friedan was talking about in nineteen seventy one

593
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.079
is that let's say we have an ideal expression of

594
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:02.760
activity in you're not going to have anemia. There's no

595
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.760
way it can can happen. He said that when it

596
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.159
goes down to ten percent of ideal function, you still

597
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:14.639
will not have anemia. En percent of its capacity to

598
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:18.159
produce that enzyme function, it still won't let anemia happen.

599
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.559
If it goes down to one percent, you still get benefit.

600
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.039
But you're going to be beginning to see from science,

601
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.880
he said. And this is the punchline. He said, when

602
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:35.760
when ceruloplasmin has seven days of no enzyme expression, that's

603
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.239
when you get anemia. Now, why do we bring that

604
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.440
up Because twenty seven percent of the world thinks they

605
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.239
are an ema, which means that twenty seven percent of

606
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:50.719
the world probably doesn't have functioning seruloplasma. That's a really

607
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:56.119
scary thought. And so that protein is the chu choo

608
00:37:56.199 --> 00:38:01.000
train for moving copper around the body, right, And if

609
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.360
it doesn't have enzyme expression, it's basically given newtered And

610
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.079
that's the dilemma is because we don't have we're not

611
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.039
given permission to measure the IQ of that protein. We

612
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.119
don't We're flying blind. We are literally unaware of the

613
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:24.159
dealing capacity of these amazing proteins and enzymes that reside

614
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.960
in our body. We're kept in the dark. And I

615
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.159
think you're asking a really fair and important question is

616
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:33.280
how do we impact stay on top of this? And

617
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.960
I think all we can do is is really lobby

618
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.239
to get access to this testing because I think it's

619
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:41.000
really tragical.

620
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.440
Yeah, I mean blood tests today, I mean details almost

621
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.159
nothing in many cases once you get into some of

622
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.800
the very sophisticated s UF. But you know, I'm thinking, Okay,

623
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.679
So if I'm fighting this UTI and my body is

624
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.000
requesting through the whole endocrine system, I need more copper.

625
00:38:58.039 --> 00:38:59.639
I need more copper. I need more copper to be

626
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:03.559
able to copper being the conductor of electricity. The two

627
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:07.960
most important organs are to most the two most important

628
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:13.360
bodies in the body that need energy electrical transmission is

629
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.400
a brain, not heart. So if I take it away

630
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.000
from either one of them, what's going to happen?

631
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.679
They're not going to work, right, And and Warren just said,

632
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.119
sounds like we're being handcuffed. And what are handcuffs made

633
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.280
of iron? Thrown out of steel? Right?

634
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.719
Yeah, not copper.

635
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.519
And that's the tragedy, is that we are locked up metabolically,

636
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.360
not in our body because we can't regulate the iron.

637
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:40.119
Yeah.

638
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.960
No, I think that's great. He's growing his own stuff.

639
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:47.159
That, yeah, yeah, But I mean no, it's it's not.

640
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.760
And I mean, you know, we have to keep rebuilding

641
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.639
the soil. You have to keep on top of it.

642
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.880
We have to watch what you know, the drift from anybody,

643
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.360
anybody that's springing around it. And of course now we're

644
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.079
seeing at least more and more products, if you will,

645
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.559
and solutions to try to regenerate that soil, right, you know,

646
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.599
into a much more natural state. But I know, even

647
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.440
my challenge is down here in South Florida because you know,

648
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.840
most of the soil is sandy. You don't have very

649
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.679
much organic matter. You know, to even do a raised bed.

650
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.079
It's breaking down in the Florida sun in no time

651
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.800
at all. And you know the key, you know, you know,

652
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.320
I've had a raised bed for three years now and

653
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.480
I still can't stick a shovel in and pull out

654
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:37.159
enough earthworms to go fishing. It's just impossible, you know.

655
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.519
I remember as a kid up in up you know,

656
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.760
up in the western New York, if I was going fishing,

657
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.599
you know, you walked out, you turned on the sprinklers

658
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.920
for fifteen twenty minutes, you walked out with a flashlight,

659
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.039
and you could build a bucket full of worms in

660
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:56.440
like two minutes. But not anymore. And of course with

661
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.199
this whole thing too, I mean I'm seeing it on

662
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.320
the wildlife side too. I'm seeing let's or less butterflies,

663
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.760
less less everything, let's be the bee problem is becoming monumental.

664
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.719
And of course a lot of that's because the commercial

665
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.960
bee keepers are using a lot of high fruit toased

666
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.800
corn syrup to feed their bees. So what quality of

667
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.320
honey are you getting today? Unless you unless you know

668
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:24.519
your beekeeper, and things of that nature. It's it's really

669
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.880
really tough. But again it comes all the way down

670
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:31.800
to minerals, and I mean, you know, obviously you know,

671
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.960
good clean food of all types is especially good. They say,

672
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.360
we use a lot of herbals and botanicals. Like you said,

673
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.639
they're ancient, they still have not been corrupted. If you

674
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:48.960
will with you know the you know, man based changes

675
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.400
on it for yield and things of that nature. So

676
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.440
you're gonna get many more bioavailable minerals and things of that,

677
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:55.000
you know.

678
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.960
I think people need to know that you're an oasis.

679
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.719
You're you're voted to making sure people have access not

680
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:08.119
just for their pets, but for the owners as well. Right, Yeah,

681
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.880
the r cps and other always there are, there are

682
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.760
a series of oases out there. You just have to

683
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.760
be very selective about where you get your support and

684
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.559
make sure you understand how the game is played. And

685
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.960
the goal of the or of organized food and medicine

686
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.880
is not to keep you healthy, because there's no money

687
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.639
in a healthy human. No, So you've got it, you've.

688
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.079
Got it if you sell healthy food. That's what money is.

689
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.360
But you know medicine, and you know there's no health

690
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:44.760
in medicine. No, you know, it's unfortunately where we stand

691
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.480
at the end of the show, as always goes by

692
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.320
very very quickly. How can people reach you and how

693
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.239
can we help them get healthier?

694
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.199
They can rence me through the website r c P

695
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:01.159
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696
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697
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698
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699
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two visits of a month with me to ask questions

700
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and have conversations, and we've got quite a robust community

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that does that. We have a training program, it's called

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the RCP Institute, and those who really want to take

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a deeper dive happy to do that and happy to

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be a part of that training. We just started. The

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first class was today. It was very very exciting Class

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twenty two. And then the second edition of my book

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is coming out in November, and it's coming down the chute.

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All the you know, the all the edits have been made,

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the design of the book is done. It's just it's

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amazing to see it come to life like that. And

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that'll come out on November eleventh, and so we'll have

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to do a in store, so that'll be a lot

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of fun to be down there. Yeah, a lot nicer

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than right now. I think it'd be a little hot

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to be down your way.

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Yeah, it's a little bit.

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And then for the for the people who really want

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to reach out to me personally, my email address is

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my first and last name at gmail dot com. And

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for the brazen few that want to talk to me,

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my cell phone is eight four seven nine to two

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eight zero six one. Happy to answer your questions and

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look forward to our contact and that takes place all.

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Right, Morley, as always as a pleasure to have you,

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I thank you, thank you, thank you very much. And

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for all of those that we're watching tonight and those

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that are watching in the future, you know, I hope

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you gained a lot of insight through this and we'll

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be back again in another week with another episode of

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the Pet Health Cafe. Good night, folks.

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Thanks.

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