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Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway!

Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway!
Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway!
Pet Health Cafe'
Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway!

Pet Health Guru Bill and co-host Michele, Holistic Health Coach, explore how fear derails pet care choices. Learn why conventional vet medicine uses fear-based tactics—like over-vaccinating and heavy pharmaceuticals—and how to move past the anxiety of going against the norm. Discover species-appropriate raw diets, herbs, and botanicals to regain control. Turn fear into action, embrace natural healing paths, and create a cleaner, calmer, healthier environment for you and your pet.

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0:00 Any health-related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your pet has a voice. And here's your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru.

0:42 And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has a voice. Bill, the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guest host, Michelle. How are you doing, Michelle? Fabulous. And you know, glad to have you here today. You know, we do this every week now. That's getting crazy. Anyway, as we always start on the show, we want you to share. Go on that share button right now. Share this with all your friends, your pet parents. If your dog likes to listen, make him listen too, or your cat. And, of course, like it and subscribe so you don't miss any of these. Because we always have a good wide range of topics that we're going to cover. We had a special one tonight. The chat is open. So we encourage you to say hi, ask your questions, and kind of give us a lift along the way because your thoughts matter. You're the one that has to deal with your pets every single day. And you know what goes on with them and how they're acting and everything else.

1:45 And it's leading us into the topic itself for tonight because we When we look at where we ask for advice, you know, we're always asking our veterinarians and our groomers for advice. You have to realize they only see your pet, you know, a veterinarian sometimes may, unless it's really a problem once a year, once every six months, the groomer every six to eight weeks. So you're the one spending 24 seven with them. And, you know, we want to start preventing things from happening so we don't have to worry about, that once there's a problem, a condition, then all of a sudden we're faced with life-changing and life-altering lifestyle changes that basically, as our title said, where's the fear?

2:38 Feel the fear and do it anyway. You know, you're asked when sometimes there's a problem, you know, we accept that a doctor gives you a prescription, a tumor will give you a you know, therapeutic baths, supposedly. But are these really what your animal needs? I don't think so, Bill. But, you know, going on our topic tonight, fear, one of the reasons we chose this topic is because we're dealing. With clients every day. We hear from them. We love hearing from you. And we hear fear in your voices. For us, fear means an Other people, of course, face everything and rise.

3:20 But what does that really mean? That acronym face everything and rise. You know, it's easy for people to say it, but it's not easy all the time to do it, to apply it. And as part of our lives, we face fear every day. You know, fear. Will this work? Is this product going to be good for my pet? Will my pet be OK if he or she's on raw food? What about the herbal supplements? How is my pet going to fare? How will the stool be? Will there be loose stool? Should I put gloves on? You know, I hear, and we hear, I should say, so much fear in your voices. And that's why we decided to talk about this. Because you, as the pet owner, you also have fear. And your fear is going on to your pets. Your fear is, Your pets feel your emotions 100%, if not more. And that's where it's really at. You know, if you're not in balance, your pets probably aren't in balance either. And I don't mean it just with food.

4:31 I'm talking about overall. Just in life in general. Life in general. You know, if you don't like lightning and loud noises, guess what? Either of those are pets. And, you know, the other thing is we accept too much on face value. You know, a client today I know that asked you something about just giving herbs. Now, let's face it. We've all cooked. Most of us have cooked anyway. And we add seasonings and, you know, herbals and things of that nature to our food. We're ingesting them. So why would you need gloves? to handle that. Does that make any sense, Michelle?

5:15 Let me just preface and say we're not making fun in any shape or form. Please understand where we're coming from. We have a lot of clients who come forth and express their fears. They're upset because X, Y, Z is happening. They're not sure. You know, feeding a raw diet, and I applaud anyone who goes and tries to do something different. Because that shows me that you're in charge of your fears. That shows me that you've stepped out of the fear. Because we all have fear. It's not just fear of how we're going to feed our animals. It's not just fear of, oh my goodness, we're moving and my dog is going to be around other dogs. We're not talking about just that fear. When I speak about fear as a health coach, I talk about how people have to be in balance with the seven elements of wellness.

6:11 So what do I mean by that, Bill? I'm saying if you're out of balance emotionally, if you're out of balance even financially, spiritually, mentally, environmentally, all of that, when you're out of balance, that's when fear creeps up. Think about it. But if you're in balance, if you're sure of yourself, if you're confident, if you say, well, this too shall pass. I've been through this a million times. I can do this. If you say that, then that fear... It's not that it's going to dissipate. You always have fear. You'll have fear when you have a new project to do. It's normal. It's part of life. How those challenges, how we tackle those challenges, that's where it's at.

6:55 You know, I mean, again, you're right. We don't think a lot about a lot of the little things like this. I know myself, okay, as you well know now, I engage in a lot of different around-the-home type projects. I build things, I fix things, I landscape, I do repairs, all that. Much of that I've never done before in my life. So I have to take a step back, assess the situation, finally determine how the best approach to it is. Am I scared when I start some of this stuff? Absolutely. You know, I start to cut something, you know, a tree. I mean, we, you know, I'm looking at I had to do a major landscaping here, and I had to go into a neighbor's yard to take down weeds and vines that were on the fence.

7:46 And along the way, I discovered there was actually a gate to my backyard that was totally hidden. And of course, here I am in this kind of order. So it's almost a jungle-like situation sometimes. Are there spiders? Are there bugs? Are there snakes? What kind? What am I going to encounter? I know because I've been in nature for so long that most of this stuff is going to run away from me. But still, it's, you know, actually most of my fear was because I was working in a basically a drainage area where there's deep banks and stuff like that.

8:27 My fear was that I was going to fall on my butt and not be able to get up because, again, I'm not a kid anymore. So, you know, these things, you know, I had to feel the fear and do it anyway. And at the end of the day, it was done. And it was done in record time, really, when I look at it, because I just jumped in, kept working at it, working at it, working at it. Same thing goes when we have to do a, you know, a health change with our animals. So hopefully, and this is our hope, is that you don't wait until your animal has health challenges before you start making lifestyle change. You know, everybody's afraid, okay, my dog is now sick.

9:08 I can't give him, especially when we talk about real food diets. Well, I was told by the authorities that we need something gentler like processed food. So you're going to give your animal that's been on processed food filled with chemicals his whole life more of the same. It didn't work in the first place. So, you know, you have to ask, why am I continuing to do bad stuff? You know, just because the name on the package, just because of the name of the supplement or drug changes, that doesn't mean that the lifestyle has changed. What it is to fear is people are afraid of failure.

9:49 If you think of FAIL, the acronym First Attempt in Learning, every time you think you're going to fail, you remind yourself about failing. and step up to the plate we're not in kindergarten you know we're not in school anymore we're adults and it's okay to fail I'm a teacher 38 years I don't like failing anyone I don't feel there's failure I feel that everyone has a chance I feel first attempt in learning we're learning So you make, there's no. Mistakes in feeding wrong. You feed once a day, you feed twice a day, you feed half a day, you skip a day. It's okay. There are no mistakes. You cannot make a mistake. You cannot mess this up. And I think that's the real reason people are afraid to start something new. You know, my biggest fear, I stepped out of teaching for 38 years and I came back into my health coaching, which I love because I love helping people. I love helping parents, and I just love my paleo pen. You know, I love the whole concept of it. So my fear is, well, oh my goodness, am I going.

10:59 To do it? So what do I do with that fear? I step back. I take a step back. I put myself within my love bubble that I've created within my own brain. And I ask and I tell myself, you've done this before, you can do it again. And I'm always reassuring myself that I can do it. And once you step out of that lack of then you're allowing the fear to step in. Now, those of you who don't have the ability to just change and have that confidence right away. That's a building step. That's building blocks. And that's something that I could go into in detail, you know, at another time. But you need to be able to grab hold of that fear.

11:43 You know, your babies, your pet babies, even your own children, they rely on. You know, it's interesting that we accept what the big pharmaceutical companies have done. It was ultra-processed, chemically based, petroleum based. I think at last week's show I said, I asked you, would you drink a glass of gasoline or a glass of motor oil? That's what most drugs are made from. That's what most of the food dyes that they use are made from. You would never do it Yet we do it every day because it's called something different. You know, it's, you know, I don't understand it. You know, I mean, I like to eat, and you can attest to this.

12:30 I love good food. I want clean food. I want to be healthy. You know, we don't always agree on concepts and putting things together all the time. But, you know, you being a health coach, you know, you were indoctrinated into the exercise world. You know, go to the gym, work out, everything else. I've lived 75 years, over 75 years, without going to a gym and working out. And yet I was thinking about, you know, I mean, I made some comments to you about it earlier. But when I stop and think about it, I mean, I got 20 and 30 and 40-year-olds, 50-year-olds coming into my store every day that, you know, yeah, they look good. They've been bodybuilding.

13:13 They've been exercising. Half of them live at the gym. They work at the gym. They have their own gyms. And listening to them talk about their blown out knee, their bad shoulder, their bad elbows, you know, bone on bone, you know, all these problems that I don't have. So, you know, if I look at the usual analysis, that gyms cause all these problems. Well, it's not that I'm saying, Bill, you must go to the gym and lift like a bodybuilder. All I'm saying is, is maybe once a week or twice a week a few weights and also some stretching.

13:54 To me, stretching is extremely important. It relieves stress. It helps with cortisol levels. And I take my dogs out. I have three dogs now. I take each one out individually. I'm running up and down with each one. I'm doing squats in the middle of the dogs. That's neat because– That relieves my stress. Well, that was a part of one of the, you know, I've done this a number of times. One of the problems when I looked at exercise programs is you're doing the same thing the same way. When I started a walking program five, six years ago, when I first started working with the patches and stuff like that, you know, I'm looking at my walking. Yeah, I'm doing really good. I'm doing three miles, four miles, sometimes seven miles on a Sunday. And that would seem fine. As soon as I got off the street and the sidewalk onto a rocky, uneven park, I was tipping over because I was only using one set of muscle. You know, when you talk about stretching, when I was doing the landscaping and having to work on a slope and all that, I used muscles I didn't realize I had. You know, so that's why one of the things that I talk about a lot is some of the healthiest muscles. when we talk about physical fitness, people on the planet are people that work in agriculture, farmers, real farmers, not, you know, not those that are driving, you know, computerized, I can't even say they're driving computerized combines because all they're doing is

15:25 sitting in front of a computer all day long. They're not even driving these things anymore. It's not like, you know, I don't normally single out groups, but like an Amish farmer where the whole family is, is doing a hundred different jobs in one day. That's fine. You keep farming. That's part of your exercise. When you work at your store, my paleo pet, you're always walking back and forth. You never sit down for one minute, nor do I. I'm always up. And even when I work from home, I'm up, I'm down, I'm moving. I'm never sitting in one place. Sitting stagnantly, that's going to just mess you up royally.

16:05 So I don't do that. Well, you know, and that goes back to the fear thing, too. Okay. You know, if there's something heavy that's got to be moved or the other sort of thing, you know, because you had an issue 30 years ago, you don't want it to reoccur. So you try to find somebody else to do that so that it doesn't happen. In case of it happening again, almost zero. But that's the fear. It's the fear of re-injuring yourself. All have fear. Nobody is exempt from fear. Please understand, we're not here to tell you, oh, erase it and it's going to go away. It's how you handle your fear. I mean, if you're a fear person, fear-based person, and everything stresses you out, and I'll give you an example, and I won't say who, but while driving, okay, someone stresses out. And my philosophy is, why am I going to stress out? Because that person is cutting me off and doing terrible things while driving. And this, I know, will happen to a lot of people. My goal is not to stress my body. I don't need to raise my cortisol. I don't need to have a heart attack.

17:15 My goal is not to worry. Not that I don't worry. I have worry. But worry is a negative prayer. And so what I say to myself, if that person wants to go in front of me, I'm not going to scream. I'm not going to curse. I'm not going to have fear that they're going to hit me. I'm just going to do my thing, go slow if I have to, and do me. So what I'm trying to say is don't allow every incident, every traumatic thing to, and I've had a lot, and I won't get into it on camera, only if you call me personally, but don't allow every move that someone else is making to affect you. and give you anxiety, and give you stress. Learn how to be the person who walks away, who has that, you know.

18:04 Ability to do that. And some of this stuff, and I know because we've had several incidents, it's some of my anxiety, if you will, on this stuff, is that we have designed a system. We pay politicians, we pay our government to do things the right way. And they actually sometimes do a horrible, horrible job of not looking ahead. And, you know, I'm one of those people. I'm looking four steps ahead. You know, some people compare me to the president where he's, you know, 14 steps ahead of everybody else. But that's the way I look at it. I look at the consequences of every move I make. With that, we're going to be right back after this quick break.

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21:11 This is Bill, along with Michelle, my special guest host. We're talking about fears and how we're so afraid to make changes. And especially when we get into the health field, I really want to get into that as far as the base of nutrition is concerned. Because, you know, it drives me crazy when a whole profession that professors be health oriented is nothing but medicine based. and has no health in their toolbox. You know, when we look at, you know, some of the fears that are out there, especially when it comes to feeding raw or even lightly cooked food, real diets, real home-cooked diets, if you will, is number one is probably the fear of parasites and bacterial infection. Well, I hate to say this to you, but all the foods that we make anyway, okay, are all USDA stamped and approved and tested for this stuff.

22:15 You're not going to get that. Now, I can't guarantee you won't from other brands because I know the foods that they get and where they get a lot of their stuff from. Even supermarket food. Do you know whether your steak is, you know, from the United States? Is it glued together? I mean, that's another big thing that's going on today. Now we're looking at 3D, 3D printer, which is nothing more than a paste, a soy-based paste with a ton of chemicals in it. And you're afraid of real food? Michelle, help me out with this. You know what's really confusing, Bill, is that someone will go to the doctor to lose weight and they'll go on those injections to lose weight. I think they're called GLP or whatever them.

23:02 Some of them, right? And they never ask the doctor, how is this going to affect me? How will this hurt my health? Or what will it do to my organs? They never want to ask that question. And how I know that is because I've asked multiple clients of mine who've been on these injections, and they never want to ask. And yet people are afraid to eat healthy. You know, we're afraid to feed their pets healthy, but they don't ask about them. any of the vaccinations that are given to pets. They don't ask what effect they will have on their health, on the pet's health, or their own. And so that's confusing to me. So, like, they have fear over being healthy, but they don't have fear over what they're getting from a doc.

23:52 That's, you know, that's a good way to put it. You know, we put, I think, too much importance, and we did You and I did a show on this. People can go back in the archives and look it up. On who are the experts? People think because somebody's got letters after their name or, you know, a prefix, you know, doctor in front of their name, that that automatically makes them the smartest person in the room. But, you know, if we go back, you know, my background was in animal health and, of course, in agriculture. I mean, prior to, basically... the 1960s, the 1970s, and probably into the early 80s, you know, on a farm, the smartest person on the farm when it came to animal health was the farmer.

24:41 The veterinarian was the backup, if you will. If it's something more than I can handle, then that's fine. But, you know, it was never a problem. And, of course, when we look at modern disease, this is where the other problem is. most of the modern diseases that even our farmers are faced with are not because of the livestock themselves. It's because of the poor feeds, the feed additives that are being given, the injectables, as we talked about, the chemicals in the environment. You know, your cattle are grazing on, you know, 100-acre pasture, and the stream that runs down, you know, through that pasture, two miles upstream, There's a chemical plant discharging all kinds of garbage into it.

25:30 Or there's just a small community that doesn't have good sewage and things of this nature. That all affects it. And nobody goes after those causes. And even when we find them, it's ignored. You know, the government agencies don't do the job that they're supposed to do. And all they do is put out a health warning, which creates more fear and anxiety. You know, so they are actually fueling this fear and steering you away from doing the right thing. And that's a travesty in itself, isn't it? I believe so. But fear comes from not trusting. Because if they were to trust, then they would have less fear, right?

26:15 That's right. So because they're not trusting people maybe like you and I, because we don't have veterinarian letters after our name, you know, so they're not sure. But do your homework. Because people that, you know, I have a background. I have a bachelor's. He has a bachelor's. It's not that we're not educated. We've educated ourselves so that we can help others. And we may not have a doctor letters after our name, but we still know sometimes even more on the nutrition side than doctors themselves. Well, you know, we talked about this a little bit today. over the last couple of weeks as well. You know, I can get a certificate in nutrition for $ 49. 95 in a six-week program today. When I started in this, there was not even a classification for nutrition. This was developed over 60 years of practical experience, not in a six-week course. And, you know, learning it out of a book, although I did, I mean, I had to read a lot of textbooks when I was in college. that were probably, because I graduated in 71, these were written in the 50s and the 60s. You know, it was all the basics. We didn't have GMOs. We didn't have glyphosate and dicampa and some of the other poisons that are continuously being utilized.

27:47 So we didn't have to deal with these kind of problems, you know. Yes, we looked at our pastures. Yes, we looked at the feed. I actually, when I started, when I was in college, I started raising my own beef cattle. I actually, because my father worked in a grain mill and I could get surplus grain sometimes for free, which we only used for small amounts of supplemental feeding in winter months because we were in western New York. And sometimes the pasture had two foot of snow on it. I actually did our initial formulation. I sat down with the textbooks. I sat down, and we didn't have computers. I sat down. I had to look at the components in each of the foods that we were using and then formulate what would be an ideal food. And I never lost an animal. I never had a sick animal.

28:36 You're doing cancer. I heard you today tell someone you've had how many years? Over 35 years of doing cancer. I mean, when I look at herbals, I look at what animals would eat in nature that don't have cancer. Why don't they have cancer? You know, the only animals, the only wild animals that have cancer are those that live around toxic waste sites, basically. You know, there we see all kinds of stuff. So we know it's environmental, you know, and, you know, with supplements and drugs and food. With animals, you don't have a placebo effect. There is none because they don't think about it. We do. Oh, it didn't work. It's, you know, when you do a herbal product or a little bit different diet, a raw food diet, a clean food diet. Yeah, you can hear my audience telling me that I'm right. Anyway, you know, we put our own values. Well, it didn't work.

29:34 If you eat good food, if you take different herbs and botanicals, okay, for a specific reason, okay, they're working from the moment they hit your body. But the thing is, the effect, 90% of the effect is hidden from you. Just like 95% of all the poisons are hidden from you. They're invisible. And it's frustrating because you do have to base it on trust. And with trust, there sometimes is a lot of fear. People don't want to go through the process of even having the fear. So they go immediately to the doctor and believe everything the doctor says on top of maybe a vet and the vet bills. And it's just round and round and round we go. And then there's no actual solution to what's going on.

30:24 Doctors have some of the shortest lifespans. longevity span in human history. Why? Because they're stressed out and they're not following, because they're following their own advice and they're dying. Veterinarians, the highest suicide rate of all professions. They don't have a nutrition. And we're not putting veterinarians down. We love veterinarians. Obviously, we work with one. But we're just saying that they. Don't have the nutrition background, especially that Bill has. The other part about this that I want to clarify is even if you were to study nutrition, nutrition is the biochemical part of this. This is where the chemistry comes in, looking at different vitamins, minerals, you know, even enzymes and, you know, other components, hormones. Food is totally different because you need, in order to deliver those nutrients, you know, you want to have the cleanest, healthiest food.

31:27 most balanced foods you can get. And without, you know, you can do it with chemistry set all day long. You know, hey, listen, let's look at alcohol. Alcohol's got to be good for you because it's vegetarian, right? It's made from grain, okay? And fruits and vegetables, okay? That's how they make it. But that doesn't make it superfood, you know? I feel, Bill, the problem lies in this a lot. It's who are you surrounding yourself with? If you're surrounded by people who talk about toxic issues all the time, then you will, you know, you're indoctrinated. You're already there thinking, oh my God, she has cancer. I must get cancer.

32:11 Have you ever been around people like that? Oh no, she has cancer. Oh, Mary has cancer. John has cancer. Oh, okay. Then I must be getting cancer. So who are you, who is in your circle? The people that are in your circle, if they're not positive, upbeat, non-negative people, I said positive, optimistic people, then that's also at the root. We're just going to break. Oh, okay. Well, we're going on break, everybody. See you when we get back. Don't forget to like and share.

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34:26 Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the Pet Health Guru, along with Michelle, my health coach. And again, we encourage you to put your questions in, your comments in. I know there's a lot of you out there that are watching and listening that have questions. Like I said, when it comes to especially changing the diet, getting rid of medications, you know, switching to a more healthy lifestyle, that's what we're here for. I mean, I wouldn't be here as long as I am if I didn't not only believe, but practice. Practice, practice, practice. Believe that you can handle any situation that comes your way.

35:09 I'm not saying that we are able to do everything. We're not, you know. No, the body has to heal itself. All we can do is give you the tool. Realize drugs, protocols do not heal the body. You know, especially when we look at some of the protocols, you know, today, everything is cut and burned. And, you know, when you start removing body parts, nothing good ever is going to come about that. You know, especially when so much of it is marginal. You know, we have to remove a gallbladder because it's only functioning at 25%. Well, why is it, why, number one, why is it only working at 25%? And number two... is how do we get it back up to 35, 45, 50? 100%. The body regenerates itself. You know, we've got technologies that we work with all the time that actually help this. And yet, well, you know, it's too expensive. Well, you know, that $ 300, $ 400 a month health care insurance program, you'll find no problem with that.

36:15 You know. Even, I mean, I'm going to pick up on you. I mean, okay, so this technology costs $ 2, $ 3, you know, maybe $ 100, $ 150 a month. Okay. How much do you ladies spend on things like this? Not much. And things like special, you know, and nice frames and makeup and all these beauty things when your beauty is in your health. Oh, it is, yes. You can't put a price on your health, everyone. I mean, we don't talk a lot about technologies and the patches that we are both using. But in all honesty, they regenerate your stem cells. And if you want to get rid of fear, I want to tell you, I no longer have the fear that I used to stay with every day of my life as a teacher for 38 years. I was at my board in agony. trying to hold my arm up and smile to my students and every day come in like I was an actress trying to make them happy. And nobody knew the pain that I suffered in my neck 38 years, if not more, from three car accidents and having whiplash. And I tell you this story because the fear that I had of having arthritis, of not being able to get up in the morning, of not being able to continue working, that fear, that devastated me.

37:48 And I still got up every morning. I still did my stretches in the bed and I still overcame when I had to, but the patches that we're talking about, regenerative stem cell patches that we'd love to share with you, that has broken through my fear because I no longer have that pain. I can sleep through the night. I don't have any pain. I can move. I, Not 360, obviously, but I can move again. One of the things that I want to do here is this is a non-transdermal patch, a non-transdermal therapy, kind of like red light therapy. You're not putting anything into your body. It's the same thing. I've got clients that have been doing other patches before, everything from nicotine to pain, that sort of thing, that are nothing more than delivery systems for the same drugs that they were taking. And, you know, they think it's really great because they don't have to take something. They are taking something.

38:54 I want to interject on that note, those of you who do suffer from anxiety, the fear again, you know, and you can't get a handle on your fear, these patches will help you as well. And with a patch, you're going to see that your stem cells will regenerate to the point where you won't feel that nervous energy anymore. And like I was saying today, I feel your energy. I read energy. I feel it. I can feel and sense it through the phone. And it upsets me because I'm an empath and I want to help you. I really want to help you. Please reach out to us either through my Paleo pet or at the store or Facebook, but we want to help you.

39:37 We don't want you to be afraid to start a new diet program. I shouldn't say diet because I don't like that word, but a new program for your pets, for yourself. We help you with both. It's one step at a time. I mean, you know, let's face it, okay? If you got on a boat or on a plane and went to a foreign country, you would have to change your diet. You wouldn't have a choice. You know, what you were eating here in the States is not going to be the same as you're going to find in Southeast Asia or the Philippines or India, China, any of those places. You know, we hear a lot about, you know, people that go on vacation to Europe. Oh, how clean the food is. I could eat this stuff without getting sick. Okay, so you come back to the States. What do you do? Keep going back to the same old stuff. Why? Because it takes time and effort to investigate what can I find.

40:32 It's not easy. I mean, believe me, because I have to source food all the time. I visit farms. I visit growers. I talk with the processors, you know, And when I say processors, I'm not talking about the cereal companies making fake food. I'm talking about the processors that actually have to take in livestock and take it from a whole animal and put it into cuts that you want. Also, same thing with fruits and vegetables and that sort of thing. Where are they grown? How are they handled coming out of the field? You know, did you know that most of the fruits and vegetables that you buy in a supermarket that you think are so good and so healthy, first off, were never even washed. They've been sprayed with all kinds of chemicals so they don't break down too quickly.

41:25 And then you go into the store, and 27 people handled that head of broccoli before you did. Spraying on your fruits and vegetables. A chlorine-based wash. Yeah. So, I mean, we... We just accept certain things because we've been programmed. You know, when you look at a cut of meat, okay, if there was any bacteria, if there was any problem with it, it would be on the outside barrier, okay? So if you're worried about that, you trim that or you wash that with, you know, like an 11.5 water, pH water, or a little bit of vinegar or whatever you want.

42:08 And you're fine because that bacteria is not going to be on the inside. It's not on the inside. And, of course, we know the parasites aren't because it's inspected by our government. You know, the fact that they run your chicken through a Clorox bath with other chemicals and other narcotics to make you addicted to certain brands, that's acceptable in the United States. You know, that's why our chickens are not sold overseas. Europe has not bought our chickens for decades because of the way we treat them and what we feed them. So, you know, if you like the food better in Europe, there's a reason, you know, and it's up to us, you know, to continue to fight.

42:50 That's what we do here on the show. We're fighting the fight for you and for your pet. Your pet needs that same clean diet. We can't feed them garbage. You know, I told you that a group is coming out with new doggy cookies and it's a well-known group that's made with dried What? Bakery products, which is basically all the expired breads and cookies and crackers, but they mechanically separate the packaging. How much plastic and packaging is still in it? And what about mold? What about bugs? What about all that stuff? I think you're going to post that on social media in the next day or two, because it is atrocious what they do. And the FDA, and you're Government does not care. They're looking out for big food and how they can get rid of their garbage because it's expensive to send it to the landfill.

43:46 You know, you asked me how we're going to talk about fear for an hour. I still have a lot more to talk about. Well, you've got 30 seconds. If you want to break through your fears, contact me, contact Bill. We'll help you step by step. We will share with you how we do it, how other people do it. It's just Not that hard. And we want to show you a simple way to handle. Get a handle on it for yourself, for your pets, for. Your loved ones. Just remember, love is the answer. So every time you have fear, find that love place. Find the spot. Find the pet.

44:27 For me, it's my pets. I love on them, and that helps break through a lot of my fear. Stress? Go to my pet. Stress? Go to Bill. For the stress. I don't know what the stress is. It gives me the stress. With that being said, thank you for watching. We always appreciate it. We appreciate your support and look forward to continuing this conversation over many, many more years. We will be entering our 19th season here very shortly, and we can't wait. Good night, folks. Thanks for watching.

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