Sept. 17, 2026

Is Holistic Health a Mindset, a Method or Real Treatment?

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The Pet Health Café episode hosted by Bill and Michele explores whether holistic pet and people care functions as a mindset, a preventative method, or a real biological treatment. The hosts conclude that true holistic care successfully integrates all three elements to address root causes of illness rather than merely masking symptoms.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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information only. Content presented on any show by any host

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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.

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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise

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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,

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where your pet has a voice.

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And here's your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru. And

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welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your

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pet has a voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru,

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along with Michelle, my health coach and co-host tonight. And

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we've got a great thing coming on tonight. We want

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all these little tiny things that make this so special

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for all of us. And Michelle actually has been working very,

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very hard and coming up with topics and areas that

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we need to discuss. And it's kind of crazy when

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we start breaking all of this stuff down. That's the

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interesting part about it because, you know, you talk about health.

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That's a big, big picture, isn't it?

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Absolutely, Bill.

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And so then you start breaking it down into what

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creates health. And it's not medicine, is it?

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It depends upon who you're asking, if you're asking me. No,

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absolutely not. It's not medicine. I don't know why we're

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not on. Okay. I mean, our topic tonight is pretty straightforward.

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Is holistic care, is it a mindset? Is it a method?

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Is it real treatment? And I believe it's all three.

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You know, we had, I don't know how many hours

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of debate over the spelling of holistic. Okay. When you

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look at holistic, The spelling of holistic, if you start

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it with a W, you're talking about a whole encompassing thing.

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When you're talking about it starting with an H as

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a whole, that's a void. That was by design by

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the medical people. They wanted holistic to be a void.

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They wanted to submiss all the little things that keep

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you and your pet healthy. And that's why we're here

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tonight with this discussion. on what is really holistic. And,

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you know, Michelle, you know, I've been doing this for

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over 60 years. I walk into a doctor's office. I

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walk into a clinic. I walk into a pet store.

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That's holistic. And you're selling commercial food, chemical flea treatments, and,

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you know, having vaccination clinics. It's like, how can you

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call that holistic?

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Well, that's where the confusion lies. And our audience needs

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to know the truth. I mean, you know, it's one

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thing with the allopathic vets and the Western conventional medicine

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doctors out there. But then it's another thing where conventional doctors,

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allopathic veterinarians, they're throwing the word holistic out like it's

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just no big deal. And holistic, some of them just

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do one thing that's holistic. They might do acupuncture. They

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might do lasers. One thing, and all of a sudden,

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they're holistic.

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Michelle, my question is, if you're doing one thing, you're

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still working on symptoms, not on the whole body. That's

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what holistic means. We're looking at the body as a

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whole unit, one unit. And when you start breaking down

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into components, that goes right out the window, unfortunately.

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Well, as doctors or as vets for our pets, they

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see one thing and they treat that one thing. Oh,

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your dog has bad tartar. So they're already just treating

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that one thing. They're not looking at a myriad of

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things that dog has been through. And it's the same

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for people.

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It's the same problem, though, is we're looking at a symptom,

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which is the body's alert to we're doing something wrong.

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Right.

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And we're not going back to the causes. We have

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to look at causation because that's the important part of

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it is like nothing happens from nothing. And if you've got,

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you know, you've got arthritis, okay? I'm getting up there

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in years. I've got a little bit of arthritis, okay?

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Some days it's good, some days it's bad. You know,

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we had gotten in some product that had to be

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put together with like 9,000 screws. And any of you

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that ever put together furniture, you know what I'm talking about.

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But after the first 10 minutes, your hand can't even move. Okay, why?

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Because not what we're doing today, but what we did

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to our body 20, 30, 40 years ago, 50 years ago.

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You know, we didn't take it over. Because we were

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never taught. We were never trained in this stuff. We

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were never explained this stuff. And it's... it becomes an

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issue when we go back, when we start looking, when

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you get into your elderly age, like myself, I know

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I don't look that old, but, yeah, it becomes, the

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body's been breaking down for so long, and like myself,

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I watch what I eat, I'm doing, you know, herbals

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and botanicals and all the whole body thing.

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But, you know, once I put something in my mouth,

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whether it's an herb, you know, a you know, any

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kind of nutritional component, once it goes in my mouth,

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I have no control over it.

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The body's going to put it where it needs it most. And,

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you know, my hands, I could use that extra strength.

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But you know what? That extra protein, that extra carbohydrate,

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that extra fatty acid that I need might be going

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to my liver, my kidneys, my brain, any place else

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that the body thinks is more important. And that's where

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we don't understand any of this is because the body

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does what it needs to do to stay alive. Number one,

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keep the heart healthy.

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And that's also with our pets. We say and we

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stress rotational diet because each food that the pet is

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receiving every day is giving different nutrients to that pet.

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So that's why it's really important that you vary what

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you're feeding the pet.

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Absolutely.

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Because if not, they're not getting proper nutrition. I wanted

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to go back, though, to the word holistic. So, yes,

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whole with a W because it is the whole person.

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That's why you love bubble, by the way.

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You do that when you love bubble all the time.

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The holistic approach is the mind, the body, and the soul,

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or some people say the spirit. And it's absolutely your

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mindset because if every time you have thoughts Arthritis. If

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I were to rush you to the doctor every time

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you complain your hands are hurting.

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Give me an injection.

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Give you an injection and, you know, be done with it.

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The pain would be gone. Right. Temporarily. Right. And yet

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the damage would still be being done because now I'm

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using it without pain. So I'm doing more damage than

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I am good because I'm not healing at any point

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in time. Because also, those painkillers are not only blocking

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that pain sensation. they're also blocking the pathways for nutrition

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and healing to happen. It's not a single phase thing.

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It's like electricity. You know, you get different phases of electricity.

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It all has to move together.

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Right, connection. It's all connected. And when you go to

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an individual doctor that's just working on your heart, he

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is not talking about all of the things that brought

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you there.

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Yeah, the fact that your liver... isn't cleaning out the body,

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so the toxins are going into your heart, and your

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heart's pushing them away every day. So, okay, so next

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thing you know, you've got diabetes because the pancreas is

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screwed up, the liver is screwed up, and then, okay,

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the toxins end up in your feet, primarily your left

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foot because of where it happens to be, and then

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you've got, you know, diabetic neuropathy, and they're cutting off

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your freaking foot to keep your heart healthy. Because the

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body doesn't need the foot to live. It needs your

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heart to live.

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So when someone goes to see a holistic practitioner or

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someone like myself, a health coach, I'm not focusing on

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your A1C only or your cholesterol blood test. I am

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looking at the whole of you. And what does that mean?

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I do a deep dive into other aspects, other areas

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of your body. So I'm looking at your social, emotional,

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your physical, your mental, all of that. These are questions

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that I ask and I dig deeply because I need

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to know What caused that symptom? Why are you having

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thyroid or whatever the symptom might be?

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It's funny that you mentioned that, Michelle, because this morning

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I was doing some research. And I came upon a

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product that was actually made by Merck in the 1800s.

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And it was basically a compound. Basically all it was

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is rye organ meat.

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Okay?

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Okay. Brian, organ meat, because everything is there, and until

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they came up with synthetic hormones, that was the number

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one treatment in the world for menopause. Okay? It completely

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eliminated it. But once they came up with a synthetic

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formula that could sell you something else, all of a

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sudden it's gone. But, you know, why can't we buy

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organ meat today?

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We can buy it.

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No, you can't. For the most part, you can. You

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might be able to buy some liver. That's it. You

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can't go buy thyroid. You can't go buy adrenal. You

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cannot go buy anything else unless it comes from a

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foreign country. Because our government has said, we don't want

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you healthy.

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But you always say, Bill, if your liver is damaged,

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eat liver. If your heart is bad, eat heart. Do

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you not say that?

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Absolutely. That's what ancient Chinese said. This is thousands of

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years old. You build a body based on what nutrients

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your body needs.

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I want you to know, I have witnessed it here firsthand,

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that Bill actually eats raw beef liver. I'm not there yet, everyone.

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I'll do it in a capsule.

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But he does. He's a testimonial for not ever taking

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a drug.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's been 25, 35 years. almost 40 years

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since I've even taken a Tylenol. Okay. I'm on no prescriptions.

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None.

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Zero.

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Zippo.

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Nada. Okay. I look at my whole body. My hands

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are hurting because I'm doing a certain work. Okay. So

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I look at how can I, you know, how can

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I remedy that? And of course, you know, we also

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look at chiropractic as well because the structure is very,

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very important with that. And it's, you know, it's always

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a battle between Because we have to think outside the box.

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We're not, you know, we've been so programmed since the 19,

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probably the 1960s, 70s, 80s, that you run to a

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doctor and you get a script. You know, you get

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a compound, a chemical compound that's going to dissipate your symptom.

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And like I said, and I use that term specifically,

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it's dissipating it.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's not curing it. It's not even treating it. It's

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just blocking it.

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Really just a mindset, everybody. I know it's not easy

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when you're in pain. Recently, I had a lot of

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tooth pain and I was in agony. I couldn't sleep.

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And I asked Bill. Bill's like, put a clove, put

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a piece of clove. And do you know, I put

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that clove right on the tooth. Plus, I did some

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of my stem cell patches and I didn't go to

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the doctor. I didn't go to the dentist. It was amazing.

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And we just have to be able to be strong

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enough to change our mindset. So many of us, you know,

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I've had, like I mentioned in previous podcasts, I had

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three car accidents. And in my 20s.

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What a driver.

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Not me. They hit me from behind. So in my 20s,

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you know, the pain was agonizing. I lived on ibuprofen

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probably five years. Today, I'm completely, the last 20 years, drug-free,

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no drugs, nothing, not even menopausal drugs because I do

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herbals and I do stem cell patches, you know, regenerating

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my stem cells. But it's a mindset and it's, unless

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you are able to become cognizant of your body and

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your symptoms, you know, people are just running for the

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talent running for the ibuprofen and need immediate relief.

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Why do we do that, Michelle?

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Scared, fear, like we spoke last week. They're afraid. And

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they're pets, too. They see, you know, I saw my baby,

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my American bully limping, and immediately I did not go

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for meds. I did not bring my dog to the veterinarian.

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I immediately put stem cell patches, and I waited patiently.

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Patience is key when you're trying to be holistic. When

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you're trying to start a raw diet for your pets,

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you need patience. You cannot do it and then immediately, oh,

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my dog has a diarrhea or she hasn't eaten in

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three days. You have to have patience and you have

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to listen to the guru here and make sure you're understanding.

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We're not here to misinform you. We're here to guide

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you so that you too can go the holistic route.

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You know, one of the things, as you know, and

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as you've followed, and a lot of our clients have

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been telling us, I do a lot with different herbals.

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I do not do herbal supplements. I do not do

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herbal medicine because herbs are not medicine. Herbs are food,

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and different foods do different things. I mean, God, I'm

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going to tell you, give me a good ribeye steak,

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Delmonico steak, My mood changes immediately. Michelle, more filet mignon,

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a good beef tenderloin. Why? Because that's what our body needs.

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And that's how we have to look at, you know, this.

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It's about what you've put in your body, every single thing, okay? Now,

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the mantra in the medical community, unfortunately, is anybody that

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has studied For anybody that has a certificate on an

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alternative medical procedure, and that's what they are, a treatment plan.

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They're looking at symptoms like acupuncture, like homeopathy, like, you know, acupressure.

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You know, even some, you know, all kinds of these

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different outside-the-box alternative practices. They consider them to be holistic,

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but they're not holistic because you're still only treating a symptom.

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You're still putting something outside the body, inside the body

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that is not food-based. I did a segment on the

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show just recently, Michelle, and we were talking about homeopathy.

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And actually, you did some of my core research on

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how do they make a homeopathic remedy that It was

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like 10 or 12 industrial chemical processes. There's nothing natural

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about that. That's a process product that they're putting in

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your body. And most of them are toxins. That's why

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that whole philosophy of dilution, I have to put enough

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poison in your body that it doesn't kill you. Now,

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I can go back.

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I've got 15 seconds left here. I can go back

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to when I started in the industry. when I started

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my first job, was in a Purina mill making food.

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And a soft, moist food had just come out. And

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when it came out, okay, I used to joke around. Now,

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I'm a high school kid at this point in time.

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I'm joking around with a chemist in the lab at

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Purina that the preservative they used was antifreeze, propylene glycol.

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And the problem that they had with manufacturing a product

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that keeps it soft and.

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Moist was if I put too much, they die. If

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I don't do enough, it gets moldy. Enough said. Let's

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go to a break.

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And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show

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where your pet is voiced. This is Bill, the Pet

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Health Guru, along with my health coach. Michelle, how are

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we doing again, Michelle?

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Oh, I'm doing fabulous.

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And we're talking about holistic things with a W. The

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whole thing. Okay. Now, when we went to the break,

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I was talking about what was going on with pet

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food back then. It got moist. And they actually used

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a poison to preserve it to keep it moist. And,

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you know, it's funny because I don't think most people

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would realize this, and I said this, this was my

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job out of high school. This was 60-some years ago

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that they started doing this stuff. And you know what?

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They're still doing the same crap, and the FDA allows it.

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They allow those poisons going into your pet's body, and then,

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in fact, into yours.

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And we get to go to the doctor, spend money,

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and the pharmaceutical companies are working with the doctors and

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the vets, and we're throwing out our money.

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And food companies, by the way. Yeah.

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We're throwing our money out, not me, not you, to

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these doctors, so-called doctors. And I'm not against doctors. I'm

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not against vets. Neither is Bill.

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They're people.

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Yes, they're people. But we need to make sure that

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we are knowledgeable. We need to make sure that, you know,

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the doctor, how many times have you been to the

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doctor and the doctor asks you, well, how's your sleep schedule?

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Are you going to the bathroom okay? How's your, you know?

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Your stress levels, do you have any stress? They will

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never discuss your stress level. They will never feel. When

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I meet with a client, I feel their energy. I

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empathize with them. I just know automatically something's going on

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with this client. I mean, I've spoken to so many

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at my paleo pet, and people are just amazed at

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the questions I ask because regular doctors won't ask those questions.

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I have to get to the root of why you're

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having headaches or why you're having, you know, issues with

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your gut. And doctors just, you know, put a Band-Aid

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on it. Here's a pill, go home, here's a prescription. Now,

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there are holistic practitioners you can go to, but how

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holistic are they? I mean, the minute you get there,

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they want to slap, you know, an X-ray, a blood test,

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all these tests. And sometimes when you have these tests,

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you know, you're nervous. It's like that white coat syndrome, right?

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And they don't always come out accurately. So tests are

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not 100% either. Listen to your bodies. That's key. Listening

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to your bodies. You need to know when something is wrong.

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Well, you know, as a person that's been involved in

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this natural medicine and the holistic approach, okay, it's not

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about me doing a physical on you or on your pet.

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It's about talking about the lifestyle for the last XYZ

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number of years. What was grandma's history like? We don't,

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you know, in our pets, we never know that. You

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almost never know that unless you're dealing with a very,

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very reputable breeder. And that's almost impossible to find out

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because first off, they're not, if there's a flaw along

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the line, they're not going to tell you about it

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because they have to make that sale. And unfortunately, this

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is where we are. And when it comes to our

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own bodies, you know, it's the same thing. My mom

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Supposedly died of a stroke when I was in my

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early 20s. Okay? My poor younger brother and sister were

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without a mom. Okay? We were told it was a stroke.

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We have no idea, really, because they did not do

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an autopsy. They did not, you know, that's what it

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was called. And I don't know what all medical procedures

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my mom had. I know that she had problems. Prior

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to getting pregnant with me, I know there was a

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