Feeding for Function: Reversing Canine and Feline Obesity Naturally

0:00 Any health-related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Lynn, now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your pet has a voice. And here's your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru.

0:42 And welcome to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guest host, Michelle. How are you doing, Michelle? I'm doing well, and you, Bill? I am fantastic, but I'm getting better. Absolutely. I agree. And Charlotte is your second co-host. Look, she's here today just to say hello. Move your shoulder a little. Say hello to everyone in your audience. Hello, hello. Okay, so as always, we want you to now click on the share button on whatever venue you're watching so that everybody can learn from what we're about to experience here.

1:23 You know, that's very, very important to us that we share, share, share. Like it, subscribe wherever you can. You know, different venues, different platforms, all of that. The chat is open so you can post your questions. We try to bring you different stuff. Michelle has worked very diligently on a topic. And Michelle, do you want to introduce what our topic is this week? Well, it's one that it's really why are our pets so overweight? You know, There is a difference, obviously, between being overweight and obese. Not much, but there is. And I, for one, have always followed along with my doodle here.

2:04 You know, she's a little bit overweight. And I've been concerned about it, not overly concerned. But, you know, something that I didn't realize was that I'm not alone in this. 56% of dogs and 60% of cats, it's been in the data, that they're overweight. And I'm really shocked by that number. And obviously, we're not maybe paying attention to it as much as we should. You know, we're neglecting our pets. Is that the reason, Bill? What do you think? Well, you know, the thing is, we are not trained and have not done our own individual research as pet owners for the most part as to what normal health looks like. You know, we don't know how to check for it. Oh, yeah, it's a little chubby. Well, you know, there's a lot of different ways that I check. And quite to the contrary of what the medical community wants you to look at, they want to look at a bunch of tests and a little, you know, let me get you to spend this money on this test. But at the end of the day, you look at your dog, run your hand down the backbone. If you can't feel the spines of their backbone, They're fat. It's that simple.

3:23 And it's not about starving to death to balance out a diet. It's not about, you know, limiting calories, watching how much food. Watch what the food is. Watch what you put in the mouth. You know, there's a ton of different reasons, Michelle, why dogs are overweight. And the first one is, is that, and we're the same way. People are the same. Most animals are. We store food. toxins in fat cells. So if the more toxic the body is, what do we have to create? We have to get rid of our toxins. Our dogs have to be able to create an environment. But that's not what I asked you. What do we have to create to store the toxins?

4:06 An environment with no toxins? What are you referring to? We make more fat cells. That's what we're talking about. So the more toxic, every time you give a flea and tick, every time you give a A heartworm. Every time you do an injectable, every time you do any drug, we have to make a million plant cells. How do we do that? How do we do that? We're trying to save the body. We have to wall ourselves off from the toxin. So the body, if it's synthetic, and here's the key, it's a simple key, it's as simple as this. The body's very specific. If it's natural, it's use it or lose it.

4:47 If it's excess, the body just gets rid of it. With synthetics, the body goes, I don't know what's going on. Why did I put this in my body? It must have a reason. I don't know what to do with it, so let me store it. So now we're storing all these toxins and fats out. That's why whenever we do a detox, people, pets, other animals automatically lose weight. But, you know, it's that simple, and yet the industry tries to make it so complex. Now, the other thing is when we look at diets, okay? Carnivores do not burn sugar. When we feed them a carbohydrate-rich diet, it converts into sugar.

5:31 Those sugars convert into fats. Into fats. I'm lost. You're totally lost, I know. They convert into fats. So, therefore, we are now feeding that whole metabolic thing. And of course, when we had this other problem with our pets, because of bad advice from animal rights people, basically, and the veterinary community has bought into it about controlling population. So we do, we remove body parts in the endocrine system, which causes imbalance. And if your body's out of balance, if anybody is out of balance, it can't metabolize properly.

6:15 So we get these things going on like, you know, with spay and neuter. Okay, we've removed the so-called sex organs, which only controls sex hormones, but it doesn't control all of them. The body still has got to make that. So automatically the thyroid has to go berserk trying to make things. And that's a human. We have our hysterectomy. We take out our organ and thing. Well, it's not only hysterectomies. In people, it's not only hysterectomies. It's things like birth control pills and all kinds of things. In males, it's phytoestrogen foods like soy and corn that screw up the hormone balance. So we've got a whole bunch of crap going on within the body. What's the body supposed to do? We're all out of balance.

7:03 Our microbiome is completely out of balance, and our pets are. Their microbiomes are out of balance. What are we supposed to do? When we look at things like kibble, and it's a question that came up today, it's like, so the normal veterinary advice is, well, cut, if you're feeding kibble especially, cut back on the amount. Well, first off, on a kibble diet, the body is already suffering from malnutrition. Because the vitamins, minerals, and ingredients in it are not bioavailable. The dogs also don't like it. That's why they graze. They take a couple bites out of the dish, walk away.

7:44 Go back an hour later, take a couple more bites, walk away. Because they keep hoping, praying, if you will, that something else hits the floor. You know, you're cooking dinner, and oh my God, I dropped a piece of ground beef. It's gone in five seconds. Well, that's also the reason our dogs are in kibble and we see them not eating. Then we say, oh, let's give them a drink from the table. Let's give them some extra food. And there's where the weight starts coming. Oh, poor baby didn't eat his or her kibble tonight. So we give more food from our food. But that's not necessarily bad, depending on what we're eating. Now, if you're eating fast food with 150 different ingredients, you're screwed.

8:26 McDonald's that doesn't disintegrate over multiple years. So totally screwed, totally screwed. But, you know, a lot of parents, pet parents are also swapping, you know, they're giving treats for affection because they don't have the time sometimes. Maybe parents are guilty. You know, they work so hard, they come home, they're like, oh, you know, little Charlotte wants a treat. So they give treats and treats and treats and treats. If you're giving treats from BioComplete that we here at My Paleo Pet use, they are dehydrated treats with no preservatives, no extra calories. They're just real food. So one or two treats of those is not going to cause an increase in weight. Am I right?

9:12 Well, not at all. That's just it because it's actually part of the meal. It's actually a meat, 100% meat. But, you know, not everybody does that. Not everybody sees this. You know. You have to start looking. Dogs are carnivores. If it has anything other than animal products in it, and I mean real animal products, not chicken byproduct meal, not bone meal, not, you know, all these other so-called meat products. Byproducts. And byproducts isn't even the right name for them because they're chemically produced products. Byproducts, that can refer to heart, liver, kidneys.

9:52 That's all healthy. But in the meat industry, they're called byproducts because it's not in the mainstream. They're not steaks. So that's another misnomer. We label things that are improper. And as a pet owner, you're going to be confused. If you're not a meat, you know, if you're not a food person, you don't study food law, you don't study, you know, food practices. And then you're reading on the label of kibble, and it says kale and blueberries. You get all excited, my dog's going to get vegetables, and they don't even have the correct enzymes to digest any of that. You know, this is the whole thing. So much of it is marketing, and the marketing has made our animals obese and overweight at the very least. And what happens with that on the health side? You get heart problems.

10:43 You've got diabetes. You've got all kinds of endocrine disruptors. And then, of course, in order to get them to eat carbohydrates on a basic, you know, animals are very specific, especially dogs. Dogs are what we call an opportunistic carnivore, which means they're a scavenger. They will eat inappropriate things if their body's out of balance. So they will eat some, you know, some fruits and some vegetables if they're out of balance. When they're out of balance, they don't. Cats, on the other hand, are obligate carnivores. Every time you give them anything that's got carbohydrates in it, it messes up their gut. You know, we're trying to digest something that in their body is not digestible. You know, so what happens? The body's trying to work on it. It's actually going through the gut and it's sitting there trying to get more and more stuff out of it. Well, what's it doing in the gut? It's rotting. It's becoming putrid.

11:43 That's why, especially cats on processed food, their feces clears a room. It is so stinky and smelly because that feces is actually fermented into something totally different. And how much nutrition, though, did they get out of it? When we look at raw, fed animals and we look at their feces when they go out to eliminate, why are we looking at half, maybe even less than half of what they normally did? Because they're digesting that food. It's not going out the back end. We make the most expensive dog and cat poop in the world, in this freaking country, because we are giving them stuff to put into their body and try to migrate all the way through the digestive tract. They can't be digested. Can that be good?

12:38 Oh, absolutely not. And also when you're in kibble, poop, the feces is harder, right? It's harder. Well, that's because of the chemicals they add to it. And then picking that up is horrible. Disgusting. So if you have to strain every time you go to the bathroom, are you a happy camper? Nope. I don't think anybody would be. So why do we do that to our cats and dogs? For the sake of conveniently picking up. That's why the chemicals were originally added to it. But on the other side of that, as that bad food with all the enzymes is going through that digestive tract, the body's still pulling out all the toxic ingredients and storing it in fat cells. So, you know, you go to the medical community, A, don't feed them as much, but then they go into what's known as starvation mode, where they actually produce more fat because they don't know when they're going to get a good meal ever again. And they want to build up that storage for energy when they need it, when there's times of absence. There's no food. That's why they can live for months and months and months without eating.

13:44 We can do the same thing. That's why we got people that can fast for 30 and 60 days. You're burning your own fat. You're burning your own energy. But on the other side of that, you know, with keeping that starvation mode going, we have no energy. We're lethargic. were depressed. This is our pets as well. Depression, inactivity, lack of exercise. Not that they have to be on an exercise program and that's another fallacy. Exercise your animal more often. No. There's not a wolf I've ever seen in the gym. They don't get up at 6 o'clock in the morning and start lifting weights. They don't do, you know, do they, you know, they do what's natural is they exercise over time.

14:31 You know, when they wake up They stretch. They do it naturally. We have to have a special program at the gym to stretch. This is the absurdity of the whole thing. It's like if it's not pre-programmed, it doesn't work. No, the body works perfectly when you allow it to do the work it has to do. May I interject on that note? Because I think I speak for a lot of your audience. Some people do need the gym to focus. Some people cannot do it in their homes. They're not motivated to do it. And so being around. They need peer pressure is what they need. Yes, they need other like-minded individuals to give them that extra push and that go-to. And with their pets, it's the same thing. Sometimes our pets, if you work from home like we do, my pets sit around all day, but then we walk them three times a day. Is that enough? Maybe not. In your book, it's probably enough.

15:28 In my book, I'm thinking I need to run the whole beach- and take my dogs for a big run. That doesn't happen in nature. There is no program. This is the whole problem, Michelle, with the food, exercise, all these things. We want a protocol. We want a process. We want a procedure that's programmed. Animals in nature, their brains are already programmed with the innate instincts. that are in their heart, soul, and being, okay? They don't have a written-out plan, okay? So why, as humans, do we think we have to do this with every part of life?

16:15 You know, oh, I've got to go to the gym at 6 o'clock in the morning, you know, exercise. And, you know, but yet when you look at, let's take a look at a community here within the United States that never goes to a gym, that never do workouts, that are healthier than anything else in this country, and that's the Amish. You rarely will see a fat Amish person. You won't see a fat horse. You will not see their animals being obese. Their dogs work every day. Their horses work every day. They work every day. Okay? Quite often, they only eat two meals a day. They're not eating three squares. They're not eating processed foods. Okay? They're eating real food And the body is using it. With that, we're going to be right back after this break.

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19:25 And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guest host, Michelle. And we're talking about obesity and Again, we want to tell you the chat is open. Go ahead and ask your questions. Put in your comments. Share, share, share, please. Subscribe and like because that's so important. We are up against a bad. like you would not believe of misinformation that's out there and many of which are by so-called proclaimed experts because they have initials after their name that doesn't make you smart on that. Note bill i just wanted to address our good friend rachel She was asking about her cats and what she can do to get them to exercise more. And I don't know if you live in a house or an apartment, but I used to live in a smaller home. And now I've upgraded to a bigger one where I have a patio. And my cats graze and go in and out daily. They love it. And they've never been, you can see them in the background, they've never been heavy.

20:29 They have great weight. but they do get more exercise. Now they're chasing lizards and they're just more excited. They're happier. So if there's something you can do to get them to move, even in a small location outside of your home, even if it's on a patio, what do you suggest? Well, to be honest, Michelle, your cats are not running sprints outside on the patio. They've got access to sunlight and fresh air outside. that you don't always get in the house. Exercise-wise, yeah, they get a lot more exercise because they have to walk 20 feet from the cat tree behind me to jump on the chair on the patio and go back to sleep. They're not exercising. They don't need more exercise.

21:20 But let me interject. They have more mental stimulation now because we have 13 birds outside. which they sit around all day watching them fly around their cages. So there's more brain activity and that keeps them going too. You know, they need all of that. Listen, we are really 80% of what we eat. The other 20% is exercise. I'm not saying no exercise. You know, there's so many different things, Rachel, out there for cats. You can play with the feather and let them chase it or a ball. you know, find a, he, he disagrees with me, but that's why we're here. Cause we, one says one thing, one says the other.

22:01 Okay. The thing is, is I've had cats all my life as well. Okay. They find things to do. They play together when they want to not forced exercise. Right. Okay. You can do different setups if you want. Um, The mental part of that is probably more important. You know, if they're in a closed room and there's nothing else going on, yes. If they're in a room where you've got sunlight coming through and, you know, they can see plants and birds and movement going on, that's a totally different environment. That's all environmental. It has nothing to do with exercise. No, I'm not saying your cats have to run sprints.

22:44 I'm saying... Yes, they have psychological boredom. Yes, they're having maybe anxiety from being in. So she's asking, how can they get more exercise? Not necessarily sprinting. They don't. The answer to that is they don't need more exercise. They just need stimulation. You can do that with your TV. You know, you leave certain programs on where they're watching and, you know, set up your cat platform in front of the TV. so they can watch things moving back and forth. I saw there's a program out there that works off a video box that you can buy fairly cheap in some of the pet shops and online, that will project things like birds and small animals, squirrels, running on your ceiling, running on your walls. And it stimulates your cat's inner self, if you will, They're an innate thing to try to hunt and that sort of thing.

23:49 You know, what are you going to do? Put a treadmill in for a cat? They're going to look at you like you're freaking nuts. Well, I would. You know, of course, you could always train them on a harness and a leash and take them out for a walk. I have a terrible story. I know if you're in a condo, you can't really do a lot, but you have, you know, this is the other thing as far as selecting a pet as well. We have to realize we have to provide the proper atmosphere. You can put in one scratching post, 20 scratching posts, cat condos, everything else, but there's no guarantee they're going to use it. They're not active animals. Their only activity is hunting for food. And if we don't do the right foods, and they become obese, and then we, again, we throw in the same thing, let's disrupt the endocrine system by ripping out body parts, you know, what do we...

24:43 When we do that and we handicap our animals that way, what do we really expect? Do you expect a perfect pet? You can. And may I give an example? So I adopted my American bully. I adopted her when she was four months old. Today she's four years old. And I noticed that she was gaining weight and I'm doing the raw diets. You know, I'm not feeding her kibble. I'm not feeding her anything extra. But I did cut her back to one meal a day. And she's right. Isn't she beautiful now? She has perfect shape. Very sexy little American bully. And I noticed that she was having hip problems.

25:24 And I wonder what that could be. And of course, at the shelter, they make you. They demand it that you spay your dog, spay and neuter your dog when they're a puppy. And all of that has contributed to our hip problems, our joint problems. So, you know, we can only control what we control. The food we can control, pet parents. We can control how we feed them. The other thing, and of course you learned this lesson over the last four or five months, is while you were feeding around diet, you were also doing a very limited diet. You didn't get the diversity that they need. All the different stuff. When you saw your dogs eating, and Actually, your cats with raw bones. Oh, my God. And, you know, eating sometimes real leftover people food, but mostly animal based. You know, your cats love to lick off the plates. My dog is actually the best dishwasher in the freaking world. She will clean a plate that is not even a drop of anything on it. So, I mean, I could just take it and put that right back in the cupboard, but Michelle won't let me.

26:34 Her specialty is cast iron pants. She loves them. The thing is, working a program around your schedule, around your activity level, and around your pet's interaction with it. If your pet ignores you, they're not interested. You say, I want to go for a walk, and they look at you like, are you freaking kidding me? Okay. There's something wrong with that communication. And that's another part of it is that energy. You know, if you're excited about something, and this is one of the things I talk about, you know, with clients that come into the store. When you come in, you don't want to walk in, pick up your stuff, and walk out the door. You want help.

27:23 You want help with your animals because you don't know. Nobody knows what we talk about. You know, so what do I do? I jump out there. I'm like, hey, I'm here. Yeah. You know, oh, my God, you need to see this. You need to do that. You need to try this. You started working with that as well. And people light up because now they start to understand the inner relationship that is so, so important. If you've got a lazy attitude, a low energy point, what do your pets pick up on? I want to be a couch potato like mommy. Mommy sits around eating, snacking all day long. and watching TV.

28:03 I think, you know, people don't realize that they're eating and they're just, oh, here's, oh, only one. Oh, no, no, oh, two. And they keep giving their pets more and more food, not realizing that the pets are gaining weight. You know, that little piece of bread that you give in the morning, well, it adds up, adds up. Well, that's why, you know, fasting is so important too. Never keep your animal on a schedule. And I mean, You know, this is a big mistake people make because the body gets used to eating at a certain time. In nature, there is no smorgasbord. They eat when they find something. So you know what? Your animals are used to eating when you get up and that's the first thing you do. Oh, I have to feed them. No, it's not. You make them wait. Because why? You want to know about exercise? What are they going to do?

28:51 They're going to be following you around. They're going to be demanding, I want food. But they're exercising. There's your forced exercise. You know what? You just have to wait. I'm sorry. You have to wait. I take my dogs and make them go in the backyard and we just run around. Just for fun. It doesn't have to be regimented. Just for fun. Do things. Let them feel. But your cats have you... You have to jump out of bed and you have to feed them immediately. No. That's the worst thing you can do for them because you've programmed them to... I have to consume now. And now we're looking at, okay, I'm not necessarily hungry. I don't necessarily need the food for nutrition.

29:36 I just am programmed that this is the time to eat. Eat. This is our QR code, by the way. If you are interested in learning more about my paleo pet, just click on the QR code with your camera and you will see. Everything you need to learn. And we are here for you as well to answer any questions about the website. If you call into the store and you have extra questions, we do consultations. We'll talk to you. We'll give you all the answers that you need. So what are you saying overall? No exercise? No. You don't have to force exercise. Force exercise is one of the worst things you can do because the energy with that is also negative. You don't need negative energy. Because number one, we don't know how our animals feel internally. You don't know whether they're achy or you don't know whether they're out of balance, whether they're having a bad day or a good day. So we don't want to force them in that sort of thing.

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32:22 And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, the Pet Health Guru, along with health coach Michelle. And again, we want you to share, like, and subscribe. Go into the chat. We had a question just before the break. I didn't really get a chance to look at it because I was too busy talking. Okay. Schedule, okay. It's good. Yeah. For me, my cats, yeah. Both came home sick one day, and they haven't been out since. Why haven't they been out since? Okay, when you say they came back sick, what does that mean? Does it mean that they were going through some cleansing because of what they got into? Why did they eat?

33:07 Cats and dogs, when they eat inappropriate things, it's so-called bad food. It's not because they want to eat bad food. It's because there's a component in that food that they need. And they're going to extract that, and then they're going to cleanse out the others. Part of it is their own detox system. Calls for them to do that. So when we see this occurring, you know, where they seem to be eating inappropriate things, we have to step back and go, okay, why is my dog eating grass? Why is my cat eating grass? They're not herbivores. They're not cows. It means that we are not providing something as a pet parent that they need. And most common is because we feed the same things day in, day out. You know, even if you're feeding raw, I mean, a number of customers, in fact, you were one of them that limited the two or three different meals. You didn't know that your dogs would eat fish. You didn't know that your dogs would eat bones. You didn't know that your cats would eat whatever. Right. It's all about increasing that diversity because every food brings different things to the table. And now when we start to balance that with clean food, the body's going to get rid of toxins and detoxify, which we can do also herbally as well. Now they're going to lose weight. Now they're not going to be achy when they get out of bed. Now they're going to be more active. You know, we don't want exercise. We

34:37 want activity. Those are two totally separate things. And most people can't wrap their mind around that. And we want the brain and the microbiome to be in balance, that everything will work synergistically, and our pets will be. You know, I mean, I don't do a formal exercise program, okay? I'm not a kid anymore. I work rings around all my staff, every single one of them, some of which are in their early 20s, have no energy. I move, and you can attest to this, I do everything. I'm lifting. I'm bending. I'm carrying. I'm doing all kinds of activities.

35:18 I'm walking. I probably walk five miles. I'm in the store. It's not unusual for me to walk five miles a day. Standing also. We stand a lot. We'll stand all day when we're working. The young people can't do it. You know, it's not activity is the exercise. Exercise shouldn't be an add-on item. It should be just a part of normal life. I referenced the Yamish earlier. That's what it is with them. They're doing a dozen different tasks all day long. They're using arms and their legs and their brain and their legs and their feet and, you know, their backs, you know, lifting and moving stuff. I mean, it's all a part of that whole thing.

36:02 But? On another note, if you are a person sitting down all day, you do need to, I'm sorry, you do need to get out there and at least walk. If you do at least. 8,000 to 10,000 steps a day. But that's an activity that doesn't have to be an exercise program. Right, but some form of walking. But then again, you know, if you're sitting eight hours a day, why? If that's your job, that's the job you chose. Right, but some people. But no, some people can't, okay? And this is a lie. This is a lie, okay? I would never take a job where I had to sit for eight hours a day.

36:42 Why? Because I have to move, okay? That's a personal choice. Your pets don't have that choice. Your pets are going to do whatever they do. So, you know, if you've, and another good example, oh, My dogs have got to eat. I have to chase them around with the dish. I've got to sit on the floor. I have to hand feed them. People do this all day long. No. The food goes down. You walk up and sniff it and walk away. It's gone. It's done. Because in nature, you do not get do-overs. You do not get second chances. So part of that programming that we need to provide is that it's not a free meal. It's not a free lunch. You know, I know we're trying to be kind with our pets. We're trying to do the best we can. We let our emotions override. You know, it's like with our kid. Well, I'm in a supermarket. If I don't buy him a candy bar, he's going to create a scene. And I don't want a scene. I don't want to feel uncomfortable. So we program them to get their way all the time. And that creates more problems because Oh, well, he doesn't like this food, so I'm going to just keep increasing this one, this one, this one. And the next thing you know, you've got a blimp. Literally a blimp. Why? Well, I feed the best food. What have you been feeding? Well, I have to add a little bit of bread or honey or a little bit of kibble to it, a milk bone

38:15 or two afterwards. And in fact, in the last six months, he won't eat his You won't eat his food unless I give him the milk bone first. Why? Because you've allowed them to run you. They're not smart in thinking. They're reactive to what their body is saying. And when we use addictive foods with all kinds of, you know, excitotoxins in it, all these flavors, additives, all of that sort of thing, that contributes to the obesity. And, you know, we are creating that monster, if you will. We create that. We have to learn stop. Stop and the word no.

38:57 Pet parents have to learn that for themselves as well. Because a lot of pets don't have to stop for themselves. You know, eat when you're full, but no. Don't eat until you're full. Go before that. Stop way before you're full. That's not even important with that, to be honest. Because if you keep eating because you don't need the energy... That's because of excitotoxins. That's because your body's been programmed to overeat. Your body will eat and their body will eat to meet the metabolic calories that they need. So if you take a show dog or a working dog, okay, and you, I know you were doing some research on the backside that, oh, I did the calculations on the website and it says they need 1.35 pounds. That's all bullshit.

39:47 I'm sorry, that's bullshit. Because You don't know what they did today, what energy they burned. There's no calculation for energy burning. It's all made up junk science. That's all it is to sell product and to make them look like they're the expert. No, your dog will eat what they need. And you know what? I've fed dogs, you know, tiny dogs that have eaten as much as two and a half pounds in a sitting never get fat because they don't do it every day. They do it one meal to balance their bodies. And that's the other thing that we have to worry about or think about is that they will adjust themselves if we are providing the proper nutritional calories that they need. Not the fillers, not the additives, not the garbage. And, you know, again, our hour goes by so fast.

40:37 I want it to 10, I think. You've got five seconds. Okay. Genetic predispositions. You know how... vets always say, oh, that kind of dog usually gets fatter because it is XYZ. That is an absolute outright misconception because they don't. You know, are certain breeds bred to be stockier? Yes. Genetically modified, basically. Why would we do that to our dog? Why would we create an animal that's going to have problems in the future? And that's exactly what some of these breeds have done. But on the other side of that, If that is there, it's intentional. It is not random. Nature does not perform that. You will not find a single overweight wolf in the wild, a fox, a coyote, a lion, a tiger. In fact, if you watch the National Geographic, you can cut all their ribs. They're all starving to death, obviously.

41:36 That's why they're living good, long lives. With that being said, the hour has gone again, Michelle. I want to thank you for being on. Hopefully we kind of stirred up the community here a little bit. That's what we intend to do. We want you to think. We want you to understand and do your own due diligence. I'm not the ultimate authority, but I know a lot. Google isn't either. And Google is totally wrong. They have to pitch the mainstream because that's what's been programmed. But with that being said, Michelle, again, thank you for being on. Next week we will have another fantastic podcast. presentation on the Pet Health Cafe. Share it with all your friends and come back and see us again next week.

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