When is Emergency Veterinary Care Needed?

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0:47 This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, along with my special guest host, doctor Michael Damn. How are we doing, doc, I'm doing okay, Bill hanging in there. Yeah, how are you doing this week? Hey? We're we're we're in a false season now, I mean, come on, football starting tonight. Yeah, yep, so you know we're we're in a whole nother season and uh, you know, we got to keep moving forward. You know. Here here at the beginning of the show, I want to ask everybody that that's watching the please like and subscribe, and most important, start sharing this information all over the social media wherever you can, because that's what kicks up the algorithms that gets us more and more exposure to get our messages out and that's very very important too. Both condemn it myself us. The only way that we can help people, isn't it.

1:38 Duc Absolutely yeah. I got to get the word out there that we're here each week with more information to share with everybody, and certainly it's invaluable information that they can't get anywhere else. Bill. No, that's that's that's the exact truth. I mean, I keep, you know, more and more horror story, even from sublosively holistic veterinarians. I looked at a case earlier today that I keep explaining and ex playing. She's been a client for about a year, and she's trying so hard to micromanaging. I mean to the point where she writes down everything that she feeds, the amount, what the poop looks like. And it's like I said, you know, you're stressing your animal out because you know you're creating this negative stress energy field that they don't know how to handle. And I want to get into that a little bit more in the show. The other thing I wanted to mention up front again is you can go into the chat, put your questions in there, and we'll try to get to him is quickly and is completely as we possibly can on the show without going into a major consultation. Obviously, we want you to come to us for us. So yeah, So, anyway, this energy thing with these clients, they some of them are just like worried so much. And you know, we've talked about it and probably mentioned it

3:12 on almost every show that if you're projecting that negative energy or that stress or that anxiety, your pets picking up on it, isn't it. Yeah. Absolutely, they're really sponges for what they for what we feel, and you know, they're so bonded to us, and you know, energy is definitely transferable, and if our energy and vibration is a little lower or under stress, our pets are certainly going to pick up on that little excellent point. Yeah. I mean, she she came in today and she had blood worked, it was just done and everything else, and she was really worried. And everything that she was worried about were things that we're always in normal ranges, but they had changed since the last time, and she's seeing trending.

4:01 But yet she, like you said, she's being so rigid. It's funny because on a on the food side, she commented that every time she she and she's got a regiment every other day she's giving giving them meaty bones. A fan of doctor Billinghurst, and so she's like trying to follow it so precisely. The poor dog is going from loose, normal stool, saw stool to white cakey bone. And I said, so quick, giving me so many bones. I mean, it's that simple. The body is the body is changing from moment to moment. She was looking at the specific gravity of the of the urine tests, and it's like every time you pee, it's gonna be different because your body is getting rid of different products, aren't they Absolutely, Yeah, it's a dynamic moving process. Why would she be looking at the specific gravity of the urine that's Is that what the veterinarian told her to do? Or yeah? And it actually was supposedly one of your holistic brethren down here in South Florida that somebody retired. But it's like they had to find something to alarm her with and and and you know, that's kind of what we're going to talk about tonight, is you know, when is it really an emergency? When do you really require you know, some of

5:32 this testing and some of this uh, you know, blood works and repeat visits because they her main concern was parasites, and when I looked at it, there was a indication that there may be based on a our famous PCR tests, that there might have been some exposure. So they wanted to put it do a you know, they're normal elepathic pull. This is a holistic that by ways, they're normal elepathic. You know, we'll kit, We'll give you a poison, and then we watched back in three weeks, we're another poison to check again, and then another one. It's like, no, stop, stop. You know that's not the holistic way, is it?

6:30 No, not at all, especially when there are you know, who knows if the PCR tests is even accurate as we talk about in previous shows. And yeah, especially if the animal doesn't have any symptoms of a problem, I wouldn't be necessarily treating it. You know, that may not be the wisest decision, because then putting them on some of these medications creates a leaky gut or a toxic gut, and that can lead to its own problems. So you know, I definitely would counsel her and not to not to just you know, willy nilly, just worm her animal because it isn't just a harmless procedure. It's it's these are strong medications and they affect they affect, you know, not just the parasites they're intended to try and and treat, even though most of the time we don't even find the parasites. We're just shotgunning it. But they also these drugs target you know, the rest of the gut flora, and you know that can be a messy situation if you mess up that gut microbiome. Yeah, I mean, every treatment's going to going to have a direct effect on that. And you know, if she's concerned, you know, with these fluctuations in the stool, that's just going to exasperate it, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, absolutely, it's going to make it more variable and more more difficult to interpret. And you know, as I said, the conventional approaches when you have these on and off loose stools is to just preemptively worm them, and I rarely find that

8:03 that that does the trick, I mean, in my in my experience anyway, right, Yeah, And of course we've been around you know, the you know, the biocomplete biov clarity heartworm and parasite and over time, even if they're there. I mean, you're doing it in a regular basis that's going to eliminate at least down to the point where the body can manage it, isn't it? Absolutely excellent wormers that are in their herbs like you outline black walnut and wormwood and other herbs in there, and you know they're just as effective if there are any worm burden as any of these other harsh chemicals, and they're not gonna knock out the gut flora like these other warming agents do. So I don't know I would encourage the client not to go down that road. Will you successful in convincing her not to do that? Or I think so? I mean, like I said, the fact that she's stressed. You know, the other thing is that that anxiety stress level.

9:07 You know it's going you know, it's going to change that body dynamic. And every time you have blood work done, obviously it's going to be it's a variable. It's a snapshot in time. Same thing with the urinalysis, and uh you know, of course the PCR test, like you you know, we've talked about for what three years now, is not exactly perfection. And I also told her I said, you know, if they're doing testing in house, you don't know when the last time that the units were calibrated and chatted. And now you even with the bigger labs, isn't that also a problem. And each lab has different ranges, don't they. Yeah, when it comes to PCR testing, absolutely, they all have different ranges that pick up you know, various you know, immune responses, and that varies from lab to lab. Absolutely, So you know, she she's liable.

10:00 Yeah, and she she actually mentioned it when she had gone to another another animal hospital and they did some testing that. Yeah, I get completely different tidings of results, and it's like where is the real science? Well, and then keep in mind, I mean if she's chasing variable bad movements, I mean, as you know we talk about, I mean, that's the body doing what it's supposed to do, and we don't want to interfere with that process. So if there's some loose stools on and off, but the animals brighten, alert and energetic and not feeling down, then we have to often allow our animals to go through the house cleaning or detoxification that they need to do to survive in a toxic world. And so you know, unless that stool problem becomes intense, which I know we're going to touch on, you know a little bit in the show here when you want to go to the vet, emergency vet in a case like this, what you're describing is certainly, you know, not a worrisome situation in my mind, right exactly, it's and she's got two dogs, and of course she then compares because she's feeding him exactly the same way that one's got a looser's steel than the other one. They're individuals, I mean, I tried to explain this.

11:22 I mean, we you know, just because they're the same breed, about the same age, even if they're littermates, they can have completely different life experiences, can't they. Yeah, they sure can. Just you know, each of us, as an individual, we're all going to have our individual symptom tendencies, even across families or you know, brother or sister, siblings. You know, it doesn't matter. We're all unique individuals and we all respond to stress differently. Yeah, that's true. I was I was watching It's funny in saying that. Last night I was watching a pod cast on the pet industry in a Hole, and they were visiting a company that does reptiles, and they were looking at they raised a lot of different turtles and tortoises and that sort of thing, and how they were comparing even like on some of these tortoises and turtles that the markings on the shell. Every single turtle is unique, you know, they're not the same, the pigments and everything. It's think about people. I mean, I know my brother didn't look anything, didn't look exactly like me. And I know my sister doesn't look exactly like me, you know, and my son doesn't look exactly like me. So yeah, you know, and I know you experienced the same thing with your family. Yeah yeah, And as I said, you know, cases like this, I wouldn't even address the issues except to maybe rotate

12:54 the diets and you see how you know, things respond over time and not overly examine the stool and the urine and other aspects of fluctuating values on a daily basis, as you said, right, So that brings us into it in a topic. Okay, Now she felt really highly compelled to be able to get this. You know, this blood work done and you know all this checking done and everything else. This is not what we would consider an emergency, would we even routine? No, No, it's it's not routine.

13:35 You know, it's not an urgent situation, you know, I when animals present with acute digestive upset, where there's a sudden shift and they develop let's say, especially toy breeds, severe bloody diarrhea or vomiting, you know, in those circumstances, you know, you know, persistent vomiting, which can be intense. I can understand the guardians, you know, worry, in trepidation and in writing it out, and in those situations, I'm not going to say don't go to the veterinarian. I know you might have a different angle on that and maybe wait a little longer. But you know, some of these little guys especially can really become you know, quite dehydrated very quickly. So I think, you know, even giving them some fluids and some supportive care can be quite helpful when they have severe you know blood or you know, profuse diarrhea or or you know, vomiting that's not responding, or the animals getting more lethargic. You know, I certainly understand in those circumstances the need to you know, maybe go to the local vet. But again, what's going on there is is all the laboratory testing you talk about, which is so inconsistent, and you know, they're often being diagnosed with pancreatitis and you know other acute issues, acute labels, so to speak, and then they're using you know, multiple medications and harsh drugs to suppress the symptoms when all they need is some supportive care and maybe some fluids and maybe

15:09 vitamin injection. And you know, I would use slippery elm and other coding agents, but certainly a vet visit to assess hydration and electrolyte stypus is never a bad idea, especially in the smaller breeds, right, you know. And the other thing is, I mean it you when we when you look at that, if you if you were to get that phone call, you know, do I need to bring my animal in right away? Of course, ninety nine percent of the time on an allopathic or an emergency clinic, they're gonna say absolutely. But but you know, if you've got a dog then all of a sudden developed that diarrhea or that that sudden vomit, maybe two vomits, something like that. And even on the toy breed, if they're on on a raw or even a basically a home diet that's fairly high quality, that the dehydration factor is greatly reduced, isn't it. Absolutely you got all that moisture in the raw diet. But you know, and then some of these animals shut down their appetites and their thirst, and I know you would argue that that's you know, they need to do that so that their body can kind of go through what they're going through. But you know, that's the only problem I have. When we see animals present with acute abdominal symptoms that are intense, and as I said, I like to give them some supportive fluid therapy, uh you know, like I said, some

16:41 vitamin injections, and then you know, hopefully treat them more, you know, naturally and herbally and with homeopathy of course, and many of these cases can be resolved simply. But you know, in those situations where where the animals are getting weaker and more lethargic, and let's say they're appetite and their thirst has shut down and they're not eating the raw diet in that moment, then certainly I understand the need to you know, write maybe, but I try and counsel them not to overinterpret the lab tests and not to get carried away down the fear lane, which is what happens. So it's takes some education on our parts too, as you know, holistic teachers to try and counsel clients not to not to fall victim to the fear bug. Yeah.

17:30 Now, the question I know it's going to come up, and he comes up often is like how long do I wait before? You know? How you know, my dogs ate his breakfast and threw up, and you know, of course the owner and guardian goes into panic and picks it up and everything else. Seventy percent at a time, eighty percent at a time, you know they do that there's something. Yeah, there's a little bit of an upset stomach, a little bit of irritation, whatever it happens to be. And generally speaking, the animal turns right around and and re eats it, and of course that grosses the owner's out, the caretakers out. It's like it must he's re eating the bad food that cause the problem. But you know, most of the time, when I see that vomiting, and I mean I've experienced it sometimes with our own animals, that it's combined with a bunch of usually mucus, and that's coming from outside. That's what they're breathing in. What they you know, when they clean their paws after the walk and all of that, that's just a buildup of that mucus that's protecting them from being poisoned. That the body's got to try to do something with at least move it through, mix it with the food and they can digest it, can't it? Absolutely good, good observations there, Absolutely, it's you know, it's we we have to not we have to learn not to panic. And I think that's the most important point. Yeah, yeah, not to not to overreact to let's say, vomiting after eating its breakfast or

19:06 having some loose on and off bound movements. As I said, if the situation is intense and you know things are coming, you know, fluids are flying out of both ends of the animal stool and you know mouth, then I understand in those situations where it's becoming more frequent or severe, that we may want to get an assessment. And then of course there's the possibility of some animals eating things that they're not supposed to, So you know, a mechanical a mechanical blockage. It's a thing and abdominantly painful. You know, they're certainly an X ray you know serves a purpose. Yeah, Okay, we're going to take a quick break here because we're at our break already.

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21:02 Appropriate diets are made daily and small batches from local farm fresh dairy products. Over one hundred organic herbal and botanical herbal products are available by only the best and e clean. To learn more called Biocomplete Natural Diet and Herbs at nine five four four seven two one four zero four or visit biocomplete Natural Diet dot com. And we're back here on a pet health cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Build a Pet Health Gurule and with doctor Michael dam So, the need for really the major focus for elepathic care really should be in emergency medicine, shouldn't it. Yeah, Yeah, emergencies like we started to touch on a minute ago. You know, if there's a possibility of a mechanical blockage, either in the digestive tract, you know, if an animal might have eaten something. You know, sometimes they pick things up on their walks, or they take the lad you know, some of the you know, the kids toys or their own toys for that matter, those can be problematic, and then an emergency event is important. Same thing with mechanical blockages in the urinary tract animals sometimes, I mean we want to get to them before they get to that point where they get blocked up with

22:33 stones that clog up the urethro or their bladder, and then of course that becomes an emergency because the toxins build up and they can't get out of the system. So again in those acute urinary situations, you know, a proper like if a block cat, you know, if cats can't pee, I mean I try homeopathy with those occasionally the plugs will undo. I mean, it's amazing, But when they're blocked up completely, especially male cat, we have a very limited amount of time where their kidneys may shut down. And so if I don't get any improvement in twenty four the thirty six hours, not you know, maybe twenty four hours, I don't usually let it go on beyond that. Then I'm usually instructing the client to bring that animal in for you know, X rays and assessment to see where the blockages are.

23:22 And sometimes those animals need urinary catheters, so you know there's a place you know, certainly, and I know we're touching on those here, and you know, I want to let the audience know that, you know, conventional medicine certainly has its place, and like Bill was saying, it's usually in the emergency realm, and a lot of our clients, unfortunately, aren't trained in observing what would be an emergency. So we're hoping that by providing this information during this hour that we can kind of give them some benchmarks of when to consider going to the you know, veterinarian for emergency care. Right.

24:04 I mean, you know, some of the obvious emergencies obviously is being hit by a car by you know, a gun shot. You know, it's amazing. I mean they had dog fights sometimes if it if it happens to be you know, a large breed against a small breed, that can be very very detrimental. But even even with you know, while you know the dog fell off the porch or you know, the you know, cats can It's amazing that cats can actually drop the distances they can and just get up and start running. You know they you know, I've seen them go off of the roof of the house and just take off like nothing. And you know, even look at like some of the other animals out there, like squirrels and things of that nature how you know, the great it would kill you and I they just take it as part of everyday life, right exactly, And of course yeah, good, yeah, And of course we this is the other part of it with the emergency medicine thing is we are placing our values what we've been trained and taught that if there's anything that's they abnormal, God, you gotta find somebody with a white coat, right right exactly.

25:30 What we're talking about on the show are more acute intense situations, not necessarily you know, either chronic issues that have been going on from or just you know, innocent throw up or innocent diarrhea. Here, there were even an animal going back to the you know, urinary tract. If an animal has an urgency or a frequency and there's drinking more, appeeting more, and clients are like, oh my god, he may have a UTI and there's path I mean, that's not an acute emergency. And in those situations, even without the test results, we can treat those animals with homeopathy and herbal therapies to support the liver and the kidneys and doing their jobs, and a lot of times those symptoms just go away. On the most of the time they go away on their own. So you know, again we're not talking about you know, simple, you know, non intense situations. We're talking about more acute obstructive where you know, a client, if they're not sure they're animals peeing at all, that can be an emergency. So if they can't get ahold of a homeopathic vet like myself, then certainly an er visit is indicated. Another thing that I try and which we can get into.

26:45 I try and teach my clients what is called the ABC's of emergency medical care, and what I mean by that is is an emergency ventinary medicine. We want to make sure the ABC's are working well, and the A stands for their airways, making sure their airways are open. I mean, if we have a you know, a flat faced brachiocephalic breed like a boxer or a bulldog or frenchy or an English bulldog that's out in the heat, they can overheat very quickly and go into a heat stroke, and so that would be you know, a medical emergency affecting their airways and their breathing. The BEE stands for breathing, and in that circumstance, they're going to need to have oxygen therapy and need to be stabilized. So you know, certain acute respiratory emergencies can be quite severe. Also, I know you would ask me a few weeks ago about a dog with an acute, severe collapsing trachea that was just having trouble getting oxygen. And again, we can use homeopathy and often be successful, but sometimes you know the way the body works, and if you can't find the right homeopathic or medicine, sometimes those animals are in such a cute distress that they that they turn blue and they and they have trouble getting oxygen to their tissues. And so in those circumstances, let's say a dog and congestive heart failure or a cat with severe asthma, I mean,

28:18 these are you know, potentially acute health threatening situations where again we want to be mindful where you know the emergency medical clinic has its place. Yeah, it's you know, and again you know part of that assessment you know as a pet owner that you have to look at. It's like, okay, you know, you you like your vet, You've been going to the same animal hospital forever, but you're old. That's still there. I mean is he still doing the same things that he did, you know, ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago. I mean, in the last thirty years, I have seen so many changes in even just the attitude of some of the older time veteran arians that quite frankly, I'm amazed that there's still still there because the industry has changed so much, and you know, where they would do minimalistic and like you were talking about now, you know, if there's an emergency, that's fine. If it's not, you know, you know, you know, diarrhea. It used to be you know, well, faster dog for twenty four to forty eight hours and then start, you know, some easy to digest foods, which even those we're wrong back then, but but that was the approach. Now it's like, you know, and I tell this the clients in the store all the time too. With that, it's like it's Friday night. You know, you've been working hard all week, be at home, you want to have a

29:48 glass of wine, a cocktail, spend some time with your kids, the pets, all of that, and you walk in and your caretakers says, oh, by the way, the kids got dire, and so does a dog. And you pick up the phone, you call the pediatrician, and generally speaking, it's like, okay, if it doesn't seem severe, you know, it's still active, that's fine. If it persists over the weekend, give me a call on Monday and we'll schedule in for an appointment, maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, whatever. Right, And you hang up that phone, and you pick up and call the animal hospital and my dog has got diarrhea. The answer on the other end is, oh my god, it's an emergency. Well, then automatically adds two to five hundred dollars under the bill because it's an emergency case. Okay, And then you have to rush them over and we have to keep them in the hospital over the weekend. We'll start up on antibiotics and a vomitating drugs and a diarrhea drugs, fluids, all of that. Monday afternoon, you get the call, come pick up the dog. Okay. They hand you a whole bay full of medications and everything else, and was a very very large bill. In the meantime, the kid was out playing on Saturday morning because it was an episode, and you know, it's it's the same set of circumstances basically, but two completely different approaches. Yeah. Well, the you know, the

31:21 tendency in the veterinary medical field is to you know, polypharmacy and over testing. So back when you said, you know, many decades ago, you know, we just treat it symptomatically. There weren't the cocktail of drugs now and products now that are available that are thrown at these animals willy nilly. So yeah, it's certainly much more of a complex situation nowadays in the veterinary clinics. And so yeah, I mean we want to tell the clients to be mindful that that simple diarrhea the animal had doesn't need to be made into a whole, you know, total panic work up, because unfortunately the veterinary colleagues, I mean, when the guardians are upset and anxious, the veterinarians just use that energy to to you know, get them to do certain testing and and you know, push certain medications and treatments that plain and simply aren't always necessary. Yeah. You know, again I want to remind those watching that you know, you can submit your questions into the chat. We always appreciate that. Again, share, subscribe, and like again, we would need to keep building this community. So you have a couple other thoughts.

32:40 We'll get about two minutes here in this segment as to what people should look at them to make these decisions, whether they have whether it is an emergency. Well, as I said, they want to interpret the animals demeanor. I mean, how they're doing, whether they're withdrawn, hiding, you know, very low energy, not moving. You know, those are all you know, signs that the animal might need a you know, a veinary assessment. Obviously, if you have an animal that has a urinary problem and they're straining and squatting and they're not passing any urine, then certainly you know an assessment to make sure there's no mechanical blockages. But you know, simple diarrhea, simple vomiting, simple urinary tract infection signs, you know, urgency frequency, as long as they're getting some p out. You know, those are not medical emergencies and can be dealt with with either a tincture of time or with herbals, botanicals and homeopathic remedies. And so you know, I always try and and then of course working with you know, someone like yourself or a homeopathic or holistic ved like myself to try and help guide the client through what the symptom flare up is telling us and not to panic, and to use supportive therapies, not suppressive therapies. And that's the other thing when when we express and I talk about this on previous shows, when we suppress the

34:15 body's expression of symptoms or discharges, you might get quick symptom relief, but there's a chronic healthcare price to be paid, and that is often the disease gets stronger and comes back with a vengeance, or the imbalance goes deeper into the body, as we talk about in other shows. You know, so that's simple, you know, simple digestive upset or simple urinary tract information becomes much more serious down the road when we constantly clog up with suppressive medications the body's exactions, these symptoms. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're going to take this as this last quick break here and we'll be right back. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be from poor nutrition and my Paleopet can help. Don't let your pet suffer from poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleopet, we provide fresh human grade USDA approved biocomplete raw food on trades for dogs and cats.

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37:31 Well, you know, in each of the circumstances we're talking about, even though I might be suggesting certain times where animals do need veinary medical assessment, that still doesn't preclude the use of homeopathy and herbal therapies. That's why I'm saying when they go to the VET for let's say, an acute digestive upset or an acute urinary flare up, you know, there's no reason why we can't use herbals and homeopathic remedies and set up strong, harsh chemicals and drugs and you know, the animal has an acute digestive upset. Sometimes homeopathic remedies like nux vomica or our senecam album or puls a tiller or phosphorus.

38:15 These are all remedies that come into play during acute flare ups of you know, of chronic tendencies, and you know, we don't need to I would certainly counsel the client to get ahold of your you bill or myself, and you know, we'll try and walk you through that process, but or walk you through and support the situation with you know, supportive therapies and not and not you know, very harsh you know, suppressive therapies that chronic healthcare price. So I think that would be my take home point with you know, with when to go to the vet and emergency and then you know, for example, we brought up earlier trauma and frac you know, hit by cars and fractures. You know, even though stabilization is important with Western medicine, can't forget acute homeopathic remedies like arnica and other ones that come into play that can really assist the healing process. There are certain homeopathic remedies that significantly improve fracture in you know, improve fracture healing time, you know, allow bones to you know, come together more easily. So it doesn't mean if you had a splint applied or a pin or a plate and your animal's broken bone, that we forget herbals and homeopathic remedies that actually accelerate healing, you know.

39:39 And that's when both systems of medicine used together can be very very helpful. Right. One of the things we haven't we have not touched on. We're talking a lot about homeopathy in herbals and botanicals, but the absolute core is the diet. I mean, and I think this is one of the areas that our listeners and our watch our audience ought to be aware of is don't wait for the emergencies. I know, I know doctor dim is available to get you off on a base start. Let's say you're buying and you're getting a brand new puppy or a kitten. You know, take the time, take you know, Yes, it's gonna be a little bit more money than a a office visit. I'm gonna phrase it that way to a conventional that but you're going to get a ton more information and not be getting you know that, you know that seventy five dollars office visit is not going to be a nine thousand dollars bill where I've seen some that have acted like that, right, But that's a good place to start. Yeah, and keep in mind that you know those new puppies that they're often going to the VAT and they're getting samples or recommendations of the prescription diets they're getting you know, excessive wormings, excessive flea and tick and well they're started on flea and tick and heartworm medications. So they're leaving the office with quite expensive bills and filled

41:09 with grocery bags full of medications that aren't always necessary bill. I mean they're not Yeah, they're they're not necessary. I mean, you know they talk about the heart the heartworm and the flea and tick is preventives, but they're really not. They're actually treating your animal like they have those and it's you know, it's it's a toxic treatment, isn't it. It sure is, And you know you throw those in with the vaccines. You know. I tell clients that, you know, then you throw the vaccines in and and that becomes a you know, a toxic cocktail soup. And you know, I often tell clients that, you know, they go in and the most important healthcare decisions you can make in your animals lifetime is when they're puppies and kittens, when they're you know, immune systems are still the developing. When we want to teach them about proper care, teach them about you know, when if it is appropriate at all to spay or new to their animals, the appropriate foods to feed, as you said, and the alternatives to flee tick and hardware medications. So you know, it's it's a lot of teaching, as you said, and information, but it's you know, setting the grounds for a lifetime of good health rather than a lifetime of chronic illness and you know, chronic visits to the veterinary office, you know, And I just put this in the perspective. Let's say you've got an animal that lives

42:40 to be ten years old, a dog, and you have been using a topical FLEAMD medication, not a preventive, but a medication every month religiously. That's one hundred and twenty doses a poison, right, that's right? And you I mean, how many does it take to kill you? Exactly? And then the thing to understand is people say, well, he takes it fine, or eats the chewable clear tick or harmware medicine. But you know, it's the chronic build up in the body, in the liver and in the fat cells that and in the nervous system that eventually leads to the breakdown of the body and eventual liver, kidney problems and other organ issues. So it's a cumulative effect. It's not necessarily well, he tolerated it or eats it right up. And we have to keep that aspect of you know, toxicity in mind as well. You know, when we're canceling clients with puppies, kittens and older animals, and you know, sometimes all it takes is one last toxic insult and that sets the animal into you know, massive organ failure or seizures, disorder and cancer or cancer. Yes, absolutely, so it's important to see all these dag outbreak of cancers. Oh yeah, the cancer is the old the immune system breakdown. As I you know, often tell clients the immunees. You know, we have cancer cells that are pre cancerous in our body developing all the time, but we have other other cells

44:10 of our immune system that keep those cancer cells in check and prevent them from overgrowing. But when we when we you know, deluge the body with all of these toxins, that's when the immune system breaks down and then you get the development of foaming in cancers. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, it's so the important thing is that they if you're getting a puppy or kitten or getting another one, even if you have an older and other older animals, that sort of thing, and you've got friends and relatives that are entering into this, you need to call doctor Michael dimm You've got to get in touch with him and have him get you on the right plane. You know, we work together, so I don't even have to worry about it. I know that he's going to send you over to me and we're going to take care of filling whatever he tells you to do. And how do they reach you, doctor dim or they can reach me. They can go to my website which is doctordim dot com. That's d O C T O R d y M dot com. That has my contact information, more information on my practice.

45:19 And as I've been starting to mention the past few weeks, the audience is open also welcome to attend a once every three week lecture that I give an Hippocrates Health Institute. It's free, it's open to the public, and if people are interested in that, they just need to reach out to me by email and I'll give them some more information on that. Yeah, and you know, of course you after you open invitation that anytime you want, we'd like to start with the fall season, maybe putting together some things over at my Paleo Pet where you know you can you can stop by, you know, a given day, or just you know, general advice and you know, to help out of our clients, because let's face it, it's the need is out there. We need to get pet owners, you know, really aware that they can take control of their pets lives and their pets health and obviously a healthy pet it's happier, absolutely, And then keep in mind that what we're talking about here, when we use foods and herbals and homeopathic remedies. Is that the body can heal itself. It's remarkable. It doesn't always need the assistance of west of harsh Western drugs or surgical procedures.

46:37 That given the right tools and time and patience. That's the other thing, that the body can do some remarkable things though. That's absolutely true. And again, I mean we're at the end of the show here. I want to tell people again, take this you know program, this podcast, share it with all your friends, like it, and subscribe to us. Let's build this commune unity even stronger and stronger than we are. I heard that YouTube is putting in some new restrictions again on so called false or misleading medical information. So we have to keep this going. Dr dam is always it's a pleasure. We'll be back again, hopefully next week, and we'll have to come up with another great topic. YEA, good night, everybody, So good night, thank you for listening and watching. How Healthy is your Pet? Does your pet suffer from ear infections, scratching and itching, diabetes, cancer, or other elements. If you want the best health for your pet and to prevent or relieve these symptoms, my paleopet is here to help.

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