What Do You Know About Parasites... You and Your Pet

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1:16 And you know we're we're rocking and rolling here already in twenty twenty six and without further ado, bringing my guest doctor Michael dimm a home, a path and a good friend. How are we doing, Doc? I'm doing well though, Happy New Year. To you. Yeah, Happy new year to you too. I mean this is your first appearance in twenty twenty six. Yes, yes, always always great to appear with you. Yeah. That's great, great information and good, good dialogue. That's that's what we're trying to do. I mean, as much if the more information we get out there, and if you just listen to some of the little details we give you, your pet and you, yourself and your family's lives will be fundamentally changed on a good, healthy, positive passway that we all need. You know, it's a new year, so we have new energy, and of course energy is the key to a lot of it. And tonight we're going to talk. We want to talk a little bit about the shared experiences of ourselves and our pets, and we're going to start that out. You know, I believe that you mentioned something that we want to talk about parasites and how many different things there are we when we talk about parasites, you know, everybody thinks heartworm, reil worms, bookworms, and maybe tapeworms. But it's far more than that, isn't it, Doctor Dym.

2:39 Yeah, yeah, I mean our digestive track is full of various parasites, both ones that are you know, that have a symbiotic good relationship with the body, and then others that we don't like to see. So you know, so many, and you know they're not named by most veterinarians or actually measure in laboratories, even a common conventional diagnostic laboratories. But yeah, parasites are, uh are a big thing now and you know, definitely looking forward to talking more with you about it. Yeah, I mean, you know, we do. Of course, we've been doing parasite control forever, as you know, with the use of just herbals and botanicals which are safe and effective.

3:21 You know, we've had no you know, I think I've been doing those for like twenty twenty five years in a commercial sense, and it works. I mean, you recommend the products so, you know, to a lot of your clients. You know, we we keep rolling it out on the other side, making sure that those orders get filled. And of course, you know, when we started it, of course we named that particular product from Biocomplete as a heartworm and parasite product and as a food for it. It's not a drug, it's nothing that you know needs a prescription. It works, it's a you know, we found it to be one hundred percent effective. And of course because the food is only the body for twenty four to forty eight hours, unlike conventional stuff. And like you said, it was called heartworm because twenty years ago the fear based medical community made that like, oh my god, if you're exposed to it, your dog is dead unless you use this product. And of course there's what one hundred different products now and we still have the through the conventional side people. You know, the dogs that are on this product showing up heartworm positive. How is that possible?

4:37 May a true? I had a client this past week. I'm in with a big Burmese bound dog that was on heartworm prevention. It came up from the north down from the northeast, and dog presented with severe coughing and you know, it was getting worse on the heartworm protocol treatment, which includes antibiotics and steroids. And then again the uh, the you know, the adult is the poison, the arsenic poison that's injected to pure the adults. Well, this dog never made it that far. It just I think from all the toxicity of the heartworm prevention. And again they said, oh, it must be resistant heartworms and so you know, they say, oh, it's just because the preventatives aren't working because they're resistant, so we have to come up with stronger ones or different ones. So anyway, this poor dog had with positive for heartworms was getting worse with treatment, and then they did X rays and found the dog, price surprise unfortunately, had cancer throughout its lungs too as well. And you know that to me, that's all the same pathology, just getting deeper in the body. You know, it's not anything you know new or different, it's this. These things are all secondary. And that's what I try and stress in my practice is you know, if we can improve the health of the animal and give it the right food, dudes, give it the right botanicals, beat them with homeopathy one appropriate and watch their bodies rid themselves of the parasites

6:09 and then you don't get the toxicity, the poisoning, the cancers. You know, the whole sequela of events that occur from you know, all the drugs, medicines and and you know the parasites. To me or secondary, yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, when you look at the research that has done it where you went to school, University of Pennsylvania, on heartworms back in the seventies because I was working with several veterinarians that were involved in that, and it was it was interesting that when you look at it, it's one species of mosquitoes that carries carries it and it you know, if you're gonna be bit by several of these these several of the same species mosquitoes transferring it into the body because you need obviously multiple myophilia going up to the heart, because you's going to need mes and females, and you know, they have to breed somehow. And when they get into the bloodstream, if you're going to a healthy animal, what happens to those.

7:09 Yeah, they get eating up. They could eat up, that's exactly right. Yeah, And from the initial research that we saw, it takes six to nine months to migrate to the heart because they're battling all this stuff. Dog would literally have to be bitch probably fifty or one hundred times unless it's a very very low you know, immune suppressed animal, wouldn't it. Yeah, No, the low union suppressed is the key, because again, the clinical cases of heartworm I see in practice typically are animals under intense stress, such as those coming from shelters or rescues or animals on you know, toxic diets and and being given poisons of that, you know, whether they're the injections or whether they're the you know, the the preventatives. Those are the animals I see the heart RUMs in. It's not the you know, the animals that are in the commercial kibble. You don't see it in a fresh meat, fresh fed animal who's on good you know, herbal detox and a good lifestyle. I just I just don't see it. So when people come to me, I do recommend the heartwork paracite one because I want to get them out of the mode of thinking that they have to use something. Because if they just feed what they're supposed to feed, and you know, use the herbs and botanicals in the way that they were meant to be used, you just don't see these parasites and harm.

8:31 You just don't know, you know. And it's interesting too because looking at a bigger picture, of course, if they do show up positive, I mean that means that they you know, in a standard blood test that's going to just show that they were exposed, not that they have active and once the worm, you know, once in my affelia get to the heart and start breeding. It can take eight ten years or more before there's enough worm damage to kill the dog. But that's not what they're told in the office, is it now. Not at all that they put up there the model with the spaghetti looking worms in there. Yeah, it's you know, they actually have the in many of the vet offices, they have the you know, the globe, the model with the actual heartworms in the model. Yeah, you know, in the in a real heart. Yeah. Anyway, But you know, I I just you know, when I I have been I've been doing this a long time like you. And I'm not getting burned by my clients that were coming back to me saying, you know, hey, why don't you you know, why why aren't you giving heartworm? Was positive?

9:36 I mean one of my colleagues from South Texas, you know, doctor Falconer. For years he used you know, herbs, and he also used what's called a heart worm nos ode, which is a homeopathic remedy, which is another way of many these you know, infectious disease as well as parasite like you know, like that. And again he was never he wasn't being sued and he wasn't being you know, taken out of practice because you know, a healthy lifestyle works. Yeah, it surely does. And it's it's interesting, you know, because I've been doing i mean, the dead heartworm research and all that stuff started in the early seventies, so I've been familiar with this. You know, God, what is it sixty years now or more sixty five years. It's like crazy that we in the conventional market. It's just about selling more products. It's not about preventing, it says on the package. For all of you that are listening, that are using the package products from your veterinarian, the first statement on the back of that package says, this is not a prevention, it's a treatment for something your animal probably does not have. And what does that do?

10:51 What does that to the animal? Doctor Jim. Yeah, it's just just poisons the animal. It does. And then keep in mind that the modern prevent versus the ones back in the seventies and eighties, I mean, the modern ones have multiple poisons in them, multiple drugs to target different quote unquote parasites. So it's not just heartworms, it's all these other drugs. And I think the one of the guys you probably know from Penn. The late doctor David Knight, who was the first president of the American Heartworm Society. He wrote articles and was angry that the drug companies were coming out with, you know, polypharmacy preventatives with all these different chemicals in them, because he said, we need to be first of all, we shouldn't be pushing year round heartworm in most areas of the country because most areas of the country, it's not even transmitted in two thirds of the country for three quarters of the year. And yet back then they were starting to push year round prevention, you know, in the most of the northern two thirds of the country. And you know, the other drugs that were being thrown in with the heartworm or preventative were drugs that were targeting intestinal worms that most healthy adult and senior dogs don't even have.

12:08 They're mostly get them when they're puppies or when they're a young kitten. And so it was really the pharmaceutical business, like it has over many decades, is just you know, broaden their poisons and broaden the attack and that does nothing but contribute to more ill health and on every level. Yeah, and I mean and also I remember, especially when at the height of all this hype like fifteen twenty years ago, maybe twenty five years ago, which is why I formulated the formula that did. But they were also inferring that if your dog came back with any parasite checked, that was positive. Well, they lumped them all together as one.

12:48 And you know, obviously, you know, things like round worms and hookworms, you know, come from almost direct ingestion of you know, feasts and things of bad nature. You don't get heartworm from that, do you. No, you know, they come from mosquitoes, and you know, just to clarify about the roundworms and hookworms, as you know, most and this goes into a you know, a further discussion is most healthy adult dogs have low levels or some parasites in their body, including roundworms, and so you know, when they give birth, when they become pregnant, they actually the hormones and the change in the biochemistry of the body, they actually transmit worm infestations to the puppies or the kittens, and that's just part of the way it works. And then those puppies and kittens, if they're supported through their early you know, weeks of life and they're not poisoned even more they'll get over it on their own or with general worming support, not these heavy duty drugs that are being you know, given repetitively over and over again to both pregnant animals and animals that are nursing or shortly thereafter. So, but parasites and low numbers are a normal state of the canine body.

14:09 Yeah, I mean, it's not sterile. And of course most people when they find you know, of course, now where the six months and three months quote wellness checks to find any way we can add on services and procedures and you know, more therapies. You know, you go back twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, the most common way of diagnosing realm worms was when the body was getting rid of them itself, right through a natural process. You know, Oh my god, there's little quiggly things coming out of his. Bot right right. It's a body purgeon. Yeah about it. The body has its defense mechanisms that help with this. And of course, the other question I've always had too is when you talk to the conventional veterinarians, why do I have to bring a poop sample every time? And it's because it's the public health risk. And I joke around with clients all the time about this. It's like, okay, it's a public health risk.

15:08 We can get. Round worms from from our dogs. You know, you shouldn't be probably kissing your dog, you know, tongue kissing your dog. But on the other side of that, you know, you can come out of the vets office and oh my god, my dog was just you know, diagnosed with round worm fiokworms and you kept to go into your physician's office and you're standing there talking about your pets. Does he check you right even bring it up that if a public health issue? Of course. Yeah. So what it is is basically the veterinary community is used it as a sales tool. Fer yes, yeah, the fighting clients into into compliance. You know, you know in magazines and journals they have they have ads, you know, saying, you know, little babies are going to get parasites in their brain if you don't use these preventatives in these poisons. So it's a way of selling their products.

16:06 Yeah. So I mean, you know, that's again we go back to the old addage. It's the food. It's what you put in your body, either good or bad. And unfortunately, most drugs are bad unless of emergency medicine as far as I can see, you know exactly right. Yeah, you know, the body sometimes is you know, you have these cases to build where the body has been so slammed with drugs and medications that the animals bodies are are depending on them, and it takes time to build that body up if it can be done in some of these pronic cases in many, many years. But you know, I never lose hope, and the body can do amazing things, but there is a dependency of the body that you know when they when they these drugs have been used so long, and you know, I had a case in this week. It's actually a common case that you and I have shared where it's it's not involving parasites, but it was example of an animal that's had several tumors removed, it's had apoquel on site a point for allergies and itching, and and it has some digestive ish chronic issues that have been used drugs, and we have it on your foods and herbal blends and we're dealing with detoxing and it's and it's just you know, that's very challenging for clients. And I explain it's because of those years and years of the treatments that we have to go through this. I wish there was a simpler, quicker way.

17:31 Well on some of this stuff too, we're dealing with intergenerational type situations where you know, mom and Grandmam were highly treated and vaxed and you know all the preventions and everything else, and when that puppy was or that kid and were born, they get that same blood with that same blood chemistry, don't they. Yeah, that's exactly right, excellent. So we're actually detoxing generals. And of course you know the schedules and everything else, you know, I, like you said, I remember when I started in the industry, if our pets were given a prevention, there was for rabies one and done at six months of age, and that was it.

18:20 Now the schedule is and what I did, we did a program I guess a year or so ago showing a difference or showing the similarities even between our children. And I used a fifteen year old Golden retriever that would have received like one hundred and fifteen of these treatments if we followed the schedule perfectly. And that's a lot of stuff that happened over all those years. We're gonna be right back after this quick message. Did your pets suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problem These can be from poor nutrition and my Pilio Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet, we provide fresh, human grade USDA approved biocomplete raw food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for cats, we provide you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life. Our raw food for pets surpasses traditional raw dog food and cat food that you find in your local pet store. Our raw food is made fresh on the premises, source from local suppliers, and are made with only the utmost quality with specific nutritional and functional benefits.

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20:54 Healthier and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru along with doctor Michael Dim Again, I want to remind you to share this, like it and subscribe so we can keep our message coming out and getting into as many people as we want. We want healthy animals out there. We want healthy pet parents as well. The chat is open and if you've got questions and that sort of thing, pop them in and we'll try to get to them. Okay.

21:35 So there were a couple other things that we were talking about with parasites when we had our chat before we plan this. There's there's literally probably hundreds of different parasites that are found in a body that we can share between us. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's tremendous. And like I said, the labs don't measure them. They you know, they they're measuring the common ones, like you said, so, but there are tremendous ones, and of course they're shared mutually between our animals and ourselves absolutely, you know. I mean one that comes to mind, of course, because I've been in the business for so long, and of course because we handle meats all the time. Nezra thing was back in the thirties and the forties with trick and osis in pork. People still need a tremendous amount of pork. Did they test for it anymore?

22:20 No? I mean okay, And you know, if you go to any of the raw dog food companies, they're using a fairly a large amount of pork as well. We have no idea whether that's even human great or not. That could be some human you know, not approved. You know, usd inspected to improved. And yet yeah, why aren't we testing our dog then for trychnosis? Right right? Good point. Yeah, so it's all hocus pocus. It is. It is, And you know it's like I said, they're not like you said, there's so many parasites. And you know, the key is to allow the body to give it the right building blocks or the tools, or the foods, the herbs and you know, every you know, the holistic lifestyle to allow the body to come into a balance with the parasites that are there. The goal is not to wipe them all out. And that's where you know, I'm sure we were going to talk about briefly, but one of the things that I'm sure you get questions on us all the time is what about ivermectin, What about fen bendazol. You know, I mean every day, every day, every week, I get emails and from cancer patients and from you know with you know, everybody's saying now, because cancer is due to parasites, you know, what about ivermectin.

23:35 What about what about fem bendazol. And you know, those drugs are strong drugs and they affect the gut, microbiome and the body. They're not mild natural products. They're they're pharmaceuticals. And it's so interesting with that because you know, for what decades actually iver met in the inventor's got a Nobel Peace Prize for in medicine for the discovery, and it was saving so supposedly saving lives all over the world for decades and decades, and then when we got hit with that massive fraud called the virus, it became the bane of the world. Oh my god, don't ever touch it, don't get around it, don't look at it.

24:22 And then all of a sudden, now it's switched gears again that oh we have to use it on cancers. Well, basically when we're looking at parasites, though every disease that's a real disease anyway, parasites are always in a part of it, just because of the nature of the body. When your body is immune suppressed, parasites go, let's have a party, and they start breeding all over the place. You know, they have orgies in our body. Right, right, And so again there were a result of the problem, yeah, not always typically a cause. From my perspective as a whole me a path yeah, as well as an energy medicine practitioner, it's and you know, whether you look at it from a functional medicine a terrain perspective, the terrain of the body has to be right for the parasites to take hold. So when we treat parasites, to me, it's about doing what you do in the store and what I try and do with you know, nutritional therapies and homeopathy is to improve the balance of the body so that it can overcome those you know, negative parasites that want to take over. Let's say.

25:30 Yeah, well, you know it's it's it's interesting too, because of course, you know, I've been studying this for forever as well, but my understanding keeps growing and evolving, if you will, that when we use like the URBI press, like black walnut hall and classie barb and wormwood, potiarco, all these things, it's not necessarily about a direct chill. It's about feeding the body because the body can actually use itself, doesn't it. Yeah, No, I like the way you put that exactly right, you're not. You know, people are saying, well, what do you have that's going to kill them? Kill the parasites? You're right, these are these are foods or you know, they feed the body. And of course on the other side of that, of course, it's the same thing with building an immune system. It's the same thing with you know, any kind of treatment.

26:19 You know, they're like, what's going to kill the cancer, what's going to kill you know whatever, Well, you don't want to kill because you because that's the job of the body. The body regenerates itself. We have to give it the proper tools. And that's where herbs and homeopathy and nutrition, that understanding has to be there. What does my body, what does my pet's body need today? Based on every day. Every day it's a symptom anyway, whether it's a good symptom or bad system. My dog had a lot of energy, you know, all of a sudden, and it's like, okay, that's a good thing, you know, but it is a symptom, a symptom of feeling good. Right And at the same time, you know, I got a call today from a clion who just started the raw diet, who just started the liver kidney blend and the owner's like, well, now it's got diarrhea. I said, well, that's what it's supposed to do. That's exactly. I mean, you don't want it. That's all the junk and the garbage trying to come out of the body, and we want we want to support that, not suppress it. Yeah, that's a different perspective. Yeah.

27:22 Yeah, well, I mean, you know, the whole thing about what stool should look like too, it's you know, that was propagated by one of the prescription diets companies out there back in the seventies when they added chemicals to make all poop hard, and then they went in a government and said, hey, we need pickup laws so you can only buy my food because that's the only thing that you can you know, that makes it easy for you to clean up. But that same food, when your dog poops and you don't scoop it up in your yard for six months, it's still there. It doesn't break down. That's a preservative, a coagulating drug. Basically, that's exactly right. Yeah, And then just.

28:03 If you stop and think about it, I just made my dog, my poor dog, my poor cat strained every time they have to go potty. I mean, we would go insane if we were doing that every. Day, absolutely, yeah, yeah, And you know people are used to those commercial foods, of course, having several bab movements a day, and you know, even though they're straining, and then you look at when they go on the raw diet and the pieces appropriate diet and look at the difference. It's amazing, it really is. Yeah, that's it no more. If that's all the stool that I'm getting out of my animal, Yeah. Yeah, it is, because you know, commercial foods, some of them are as low as twenty percent digestibility. Eighty cents of every dollar you're putting in the mouth comes out the back end. That's the most expensive, the most expensive poop in the world has made here in the United States.

28:59 Right with our discussion on parasites, we can't get cats and the bad wrap they get with pregnant women and toxoplasmosis and yeah, a whole discussion on that one too, talk about beer. You know, pregnant women shouldn't handle the litter box because they're going to get toxoplasmosis from their cat. And you know, all this fear bill it's basically what runs the conventional bed office. It's the basis of the preventative healthcare model. If you don't get this injection, your animal is going to get this. If you don't use this, your animal is gonna get that, if you don't feed this. It's just it's it's not about health. It's just you know.

29:41 And it took me only about six seven years of practice to start to see that before I said, hey, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense. I guess the brainwashing didn't work as well in me I had I started questioning. I talked to a lot of young veterinarians today, and it's like, you know, they express interest in what you or I do, but there's a block. They can't let the information in. There's it's it's it's a yeah, it's from the you know, the again, the brainwashing model. My own daughter actually is in PA school right now, and she's you know, came from a non injected home and you know she's not injected now, but you know, just what she's learning is just all about pathology and drugs and disease and fear. And it's like, I just hope I help you remembers.

30:33 Her roots yeah, yeah, I just said a comment or a question come up there, which is, are there any food you would recommend to pin owners to help starve parasites from your from your gut. It's a it's called a species appropriate, cleanly raised you know food. Basically, you don't want the food base to be treated with all kinds of drug us and fertilizers. And you know, we have the same problem on the livestock side, you know, with planting pasture land with you know, specific grasses so we get maximum feed gain you know, you know, feed to weight gain ratios, and then we're of course, you know, we have to always deal on the other side with the antibiotics and the hormones and you know, the pesticides, herbicides and that sort of thing that are in their feed that are going into a carnivore diet into the meats, and you know that meat then is tainted, you know, of you know, the chicken in the supermarket is fed GMO sprayed with li fasse eight, okay, and they're mixing this in with the pet foods. So you know, when you do that, you've got the bad pet food. You got the bad chicken going into the pet food. If you decide to feed raw, you still have to worry about it because most most of the people don't realize most of the chicken in the supermarkets is run through a clorox bath that's absorbed.

32:04 Into the tissue. Is it into the meat? Could you see your. Grandmother making chicken soup for you, and you know they go up back and they kaled the chicken and they you know, put it in the pot with all the fixings and everything else and whatever herbs and botanicles, and her reaching for the measuring cup with clorox and dumping it in I mean the equivalent se Yeah. Very true, Bill, And then you know, just you know, and you're right about you know, feeding just a species appropriate really the answer to most of these things. I mean the kibble and the carbs and the processing and the refined sugars and flavorings and all that stuff that irritates that bowel lining and causes a leaky gut and an overgrowth of bad bacteria and of course an overgrowth of parasites.

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34:28 Com and we're back here on the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has voice is the Build a Pet Health Guru along with doctor Michael dim And in answering that last question, I think it was a little a border at the very end of it asking about people as well. It's the same thing. Although we have a problem, doctor dem can you please tell me what the species appropriate diet is free human, whether it's vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, caveman, American diet, Mediterranean diet, Chinese diet.

35:12 Do you want to tackle that one diet? Yeah, I forgot fat food diet. Yet it's it's kind of crazy because that we can't come to that consensus to start with. But again, it's the same thing. It doesn't matter what diet you're on, it's got to be clean, chemical free first one first and foremost. The second part of that though, is the botanicals that we were talking about that we use for parasite control in our pats, the black walnuts, about paldi, archo, wormwood and h even things that are going to reduce down the stress and strain, the turmerics and things of that nature in your diet. Isn't that going to that's going to help your gut a lot, and it's going to prevent you from feeding those parasites. Absolutely, it's gonna build up your own body. That's why people don't, most people because they you know, they eat more very diet than our petsuit because you know, we've been taught. You know, you're gonna buy this pet food and you're gonna feed this one pet food for their life. There's no variety and no diversity. You need diversity in the diet, in the body itself to let it have the tools. Because if I've thrown a steak, it's gonna pull whatever nutrients it's in that steak for what everybody needs. Now it's gonna be deficient in some other things. But okay, so tomorrow I have a piece of chicken, and tomorrow I have some seafood or fish. All those bring different diversity

36:45 to the body, and now the body can pick and choose. It's not some chemist in a freaking you know, pet food company or a fast food company that's saying, oh, we do this, this and this and this. Well, yeah, it's got protein. What's the quality of protein I could eat? Leather shoes, leather shoes, and that's protein. So let's you know, let's it's in a bone brus let's make shoebras. Now as you're talking about all the time, I mean, it comes down to the body. I mean it's dynamic and it's you know, changes and what it needs on a day to day basis, just like you know, you talk about all the time with animals, you know, gravitating towards the herbs that they need at that particular time, the foods that they need, you know, if they're and then they always say, well, won't take that in his food anymore because he doesn't need it. His body doesn't need it anymore, he doesn't create it anymore. Yeah.

37:37 And of course when we look at all these nutrients and everything else we have to look at, we have to get away from the supplement area because those are synthetic, they actually throw the balance in the body off. Not just take magnesium for instance, Okay, that's tied to calcium, manganese and phosphorus as well, isn't it absolutely Yeah, in a very distinct ratio. So if I pop a bunch of magnesia because they can't sleep at night, okay, is that actually being used properly, Is it actually doing what you want? Or is it creating bone problems? You know, things of that nature. You know, you know, we start looking at all the joint issues and the carpal tunnels and even dental problems and all of that because the body can't utilize kelcium properly. Well, you're taking magnesium every day in the wrong form, probably in.

38:28 The wrong Yeah, I know, it's a good point, Bill, And you know you taught me well with that is you know, it's it's just it always should be food based. It's like even with the gut, right, I mean, people are always saying, well, you know what about probiotics, you know, synthetic, you know lab made, you know, bacterial floor you know that they're that they're putting into these products and saying whereas you know, you talk about all the time, it's you know, the probiotic idea shuld be served by the food we're feeding, the raw milk all the key for it and everything else that you talked about all the time. Well, even even our regular foods, I mean should be containing a certain amount of good bacteria with it. You know, I was watching something or listening to something either yesterday or to day that one of the states or one of the groups out there are suing the supermarkets in the and actually the manufacturer of a chlorine based product that they put into the missing systems in the vegetable aisle, in the produce aisle, and it's not disclosed, and it's on the organic fruit and vegetables that they are spraying a non organic chemical compound. So it's deceptive in its first base, and secondly it could be dangerous.

39:48 Good point, you. Know, so you're buying organic and there was I think one of the organic organizers or something of that nature, but it's it's an organic group because it's no longer organic. You know, they allow they allow so much stuff on organic stuff that is not even close to organic. Yeah, you know, speaking about that for years. You know what is organic? And you've seen it all over these decades, the evolution of organic industry and the and the and the fresh and the fresh food markets and. Yeah, and of course if you get a small farm and you know when it comes to that stuff to get an organic certification, okay, it sometimes takes a farm three to five years for that soil to regenerate, be broken down where they can't use pesticized, orbicized, or synthetic fertilizers.

40:39 And it's terribly, terribly expensive, you know. I mean they're paying you know, sometimes thousands and even tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars for a blanket type certification. And then the other big companies out there that can afford it, they're shipping in their produce and their products from overseas. Less than five percent is ever tested in countries like China and India and that sort of thing. There's not even any most of the time, there's no organic certifiers in the country, and yet it's stamped USDA Inspected and improved Organic. I mean, the politics bill of all of this is just amazing.

41:22 Yeah, and of course you know that, you know, we're the ones that were in the front line when you're like, my dog is sick. My cat's sake, he's got diarrhea. I can't get it to stop. My cat's throwing up all the time. You know, these are the complaints we get on a day to day basis. Yeah, and it's it's steady too, you know, you answer the same question ten times in a day, you know, especially my store, I mean I can get On a Saturday, I can get fifty sixty clients come in. Probably twenty of them are going to ask the same question or have the same complaint. You need to have a recorder, Billy, you just push the button in it. I keep joking when I have a three D either Holograham done or a just a poster board and press for you know, press for this question, pres for this one.

42:08 It's just not oftly. Yeah, you have your outstanding staff so well trained, so it doesn't matter that they called the store and say it doesn't matter who you speak with. They're all, yeah, they try hard, they work hard at it. But also unfortunately, sometimes especially on the Collins, they don't know how busy the storre can get, and you know, they get frustrated it. Oh, I called in and you know your play was short with me. You didn't realize there were twenty people in front of her. And you know the size of my store. You put twenty thirty people in there. Basically they're having relationships at that point in time, right, Yeah, you know, because it's small, and it's it's you know, I mean mean, my help's yells at me all the time. You know, don't go out front.

42:54 Why so and so is out there, And you know every time she's got twenty seven questions for your twenty five of them are the same one she asked class time. Yet the question there, yep. I also look to know what foods will start existing parasites in the gun. That's the same thing you answered that, Yeah, just a different. Form of it by using the foods that parasites stone like supporting the body so the body will do the work. We have to let our bodies work. Get in that toolbox, that nutritional toolbox. And like I always say too when you're looking at herbs, realistically, there's no such thing as herbal medicine. There's no such thing as herbal supplements.

43:38 It's food. You know, wanted a power house superfoods were balancing minerals. Is beef liver. Maybe we should put that as a supplement instead, Maybe people will buy more of it. Right, Yeah, you know, I think people are used to they want to. You know, it's again it's that that drug, not that we all have that and mentality that there has to be a food or there has to be a type of food that we feed that's gonna take care of this and it really it doesn't come down to the specifics, it's just what you say alone. Well, I think we covered a topic very well. Our hour is up as always. How can people reach you and get in touch with you and how can we help them?

44:20 They can go to my website, which is doctordim dot com. That's d O C T O R D Y M or one word that has my contact information information on my practice and I do try to return emails within the same day. Okay, that's great. Of course, everybody knows I live at my Paleo pat and step what I'm doing the podcast. I'm here in the other office. But yeah, you can reach me there. Make sure you share and. You know like it. Let's get this message out there as much as we can. We both do consultations all the time. That's not a problem. I like the last comment that came up there. Those are some great foods that can be used to help help us defeat that invasion, if you will. That that's call it of parasites. With that being said, thank you for watching, thank you for listening, and we'll be back with you again next week, same time, same place.

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