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0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru.

0:41 And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet has a Voice. This is Bill, a Pet Health Guru. As you can see, I'm actually in the studio with a rare appearance in the studio because you know they normally a remote, but I have Michelle the Health Coast would be today and we've got a very very special program for you that's going to give you a lot of advice as to what you're facing out there as a consumer when it comes to taking care of your paths and actually in a lot of the ways yourself as well. Anyway, as always, if we want you to share this, I want you to stop what you're doing, share it with all your friends right now before we get started so they get the whole benefit.

1:23 I want you to subscribe and like this and of course, the chat will be open, so don't be afraid to ask questions and share your comments. And I guess I'm here with my special guests Michelle in studio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, thank you, thank you. It's kind of odd right now, Bill, because now I have to look at the camera, but you're sitting right to my left. It's a little weird. I know we're gonna go with it. We're gonna do it. I'm so delighted as always to be on Bill, and thank you for sharing with me such an elaborate experience. We were able to go to the Global pet Expo in Orlando today as well as meet the Meat Mee t the Meat. So I had two wonderful experiences as a consumer to be able to help Bill understand what the consumer's thinking. And boy, he had an experience as I was walking around.

2:22 And it's so funny because you know, you walk into a store and you look at products. You and walk into my Paleo Petter sponsor and you see our entrees, you see the treats, you see the herbs, you see the fresh from Florida program of Farm the Table or GLADERI and all of that. But Michelle. Most people don't know what goes on behind the scene. This is not picking up a catalog, going on Amazon picking some products and selling. That's not what I do at all. Going with Bill was an experience. Obviously, being able to do that and actually experience it in person was just exhilarating.

3:07 It was also very overwhelming. I wanted to be that person to go out and see what he does. He researches everything I knew that I knew. He goes online and he researches every beef possible. But to be able to talk to the farmers and the ranchers in person, that was, in and of itself an experience. I mean, we meant at least I would say, what seventy seventy one farmers at the meat meet the meat. And what was really interesting was to see Bill in action and how he was able to speak to all these farmers and these ranchers and ask the right questions. See, as a consumer, I wouldn't know which question is to ask.

3:49 I might ask if it's grass fed, grass finished. Now on the back side of that, you walk into a supermarket. All the meat looks the same, doesn't it. Yeah, Okay, so how do you know where it came from, who's producing it, what they're being fed, what you're being fed. As marketing, and we're going to talk a lot about marketing in this show, because we buy a lot, probably ninety percent, i would say, of our goods based on nothing more than packaging, labeling. Oh it's a pretty label. Oh my god, it's a pretty jar. I have to buy this, And of course on different terminology, basically things like regenerative, all natural, what the hell is all natural?

4:42 Herpes is natural? By the way, Michelle, I don't want it. Why but no that we we listen to these buzzwords all the time. And you know, with dealing with the farmers, you saw that I asked very specific questions. You know, how they raised them, how they raised here. You know, a lot of a lot of ranches, a lot of farms they can bring in. You know, they go to the auction, they buy let's say, a twelve year old you know, steer or effort that's not heifer, is not going to be used for breeding, and they throw them out in the pasture for three, four or five more months, and then they started dumping a bunch of grain and a bunch of feet commercial feeds, which as you started looking through and saw some of the stuff that's in that, and it just basically works. It's so funny because they're actually manipulating through the different feed additive how that beef tastes.

5:47 And we look at it. Okay, you're looking for USDA water, you know approved. Okay, that has nothing to do with the grade of your meat. That's a different process in itself, and that's what tells you whether it's sole choice, prime, super prime. And in each one of these categories, there are a number of different you know, from top to bottom, maybe five different classes in each grade. Well, okay, I'm buying USCA choice. Are you buying top choice or bottom choice? Are you buying center cut or end cut? Because it's a big difference, isn't there. What I realized, Bill, when I was while I was walking around with you, is that no one would reveal what was in their feet. We would ask questions and they wouldn't say anything. It would just say grass fed, grass finish. But in doing homework, you know, and I did ask one farmer and she was very clear and succinct, and she did say that she does distillers, which is basically, yeah, which is a waste product. Right, But if we don't know, if we don't know what's in there, what can we do?

6:56 We don't buy it. We have to really gain confident and the farmer that we're buying from, we have to really know where our meat is sourced. Well, it's funny, Michelle, because you know when we look at the hype behind Japanese wago beef, Okay, they're fed beer, they're fed vegetables, they're you know, vegetables, which is fine to a certain degree, but they're also had a ton of grain because they're looking for the ideal marbling, they're looking for the ideal flavor, if you will. And that's not healthy because that's omega sixth. Okay, we want we want forge fed good stock, you know, beef. And while it tastes good, if you're putting omega six oils, which is that what that fat is into your gut inflammation.

7:48 Yeah, and so you know a lot of these companies are adding barley and corn and soybean oil and oats and again vegetable. Those glasses, right, molasses and sugar bunder. I mean, I spent a while with Michelle and explaining how they actually make this feed. And it's all about manipulation because number one, they have to make money, let's RaSE out, So they're fattening up the cattle. The longer they have the month pasture, you know, the longer they have to wait for a pay chat. Well, you know, you know we got to not do at the bank. In sixty days, I'll go down to the feed store and see what feed we can actually give these cattle because I need another one hundred pounds per hout.

8:41 So you would recommend more like giving the cows afalfa and sillage. You know, that's really what grass fed, grass finished is. Unless you talk to the farmer rancher directly, you won't know that. Well, you know that was interesting and that's why I enjoyed you joining me as some of these meats and some of these events that we've been at because you actually see what goes on behind the scenes, the decision making. Okay, so we had how many how many did we talk to? Seventy? Right, so probably freity of them were in livestock, you know, the chicken producers. Okay, why do they have to use chicken feed in Florida? Or betting up their chickens getting in the market faster. Well, one of the big problems is on pasture raised chickens and basically all poultry, because chickens eat bugs. And between chemptrails and agricultural spraying and mosquito control, guess what, no bugs. The bug population is killed.

9:52 And this is where the real regenerative farming comes in because we're not destroying the soil. We're not destroying the the top layers, what they call green mask. We allow the soil to regenerate. And now we got more bugs. We got more worms, you know, and I mean you want a good chicken, you want I mean, you know, I know Bill Gates likes to make foods with insects, but not for people. We need to make it for poultry. The one thing that I did like though about this event that we went to Mount Dora, I'll meet the Meat. I found out that all the all the proceeds that they yet goes back to the farmers, goes back to raising cattle. So that that's a plus farm family. I love that. That was really amazing. You know what time.

10:41 It is, No, it's it's really really interesting because you know, that's a community. My paleopet has a community. While you know Health Health Cafe, You guys are our community, and you know we I live for all the feedback I get, both good and bad. I mean, people take me to task every day. Wall Bell, Yeah, you get through this. You can't through that. You know, you know you're using them all natural I mean I got I got veterinarians and vetags. That bill you cannot get rid of parasites naturally. Well, if that were not true, there would not be a single animal left on earth, would there?

11:25 Insane? The only modern medicine. Oh my god, I guess that's why the dinosaurs all died off the shell. They didn't have modern medicine. Lizards, alligators, crocodile's turtles. Yeah those are Oh by the way, everybody out there, those are actually dinosaurs. They never went away. We have dinosaurs among those. But realistically, nature does provide everything you've been on. I know you've been on a journey for while. I mean you were on a journey starting almost two decades ago with your own animal.

12:06 Well seventeen years ago, I went on my journey and met that health guru, and that's how I learned all about raw food for my pets and I have not stopped since. There was a little period of time I actually did it myself and I said, that's it, I'm done which work. I did it for a few months and between the grinding and the blood on the white cabinets, I think I mentioned that before it was it was enough. But I'm happy I get it from them. But that's why I visit farms. That's why I go out and reach out because too, I mean, I can have a good farmer that that a feed. You know, salesman comes in and said, hey, Joe, we can give you another one pound of day gain or an extra fifty percent in your egg production if you add if you do this feed, and the next thing, you know, it's it becomes a matter of thousands sense and you know they're trying to do the right thing, but they're also trying to pay their bills. And agriculture is a tough, tough business, and of course the government plays to the big agricultural companies. You know, all the subsidies for corn and soil, two of the worst products that we could ever eat.

13:22 But you never waiver. You always go with the quality over you know, quantity. You always do that it's, you know, an admirable in today's society. It is because you know, you know, I reject as much stuff. I mean, I can't always get perfect all the time because it's not available. It's just not available. So now I have to look down the sale a little bit, you know, going backwards. Yeah, we've got fifteen Oh no. You're looking at the time. I never do. I am brought home a few goodies, which are. Okay, when you even talked about the second part of your journey. So after visiting, spending a day in the hot sun with me farmer Bill as you will, but talking with all these people and in the middle of kind of nowhere, it it was a reward. I mean we were in the sun for five hours, six hours.

14:27 And of course, of course, of course, on the other side of that, I do want to I do want to put in a plug here. Neither one of us in sunburn. And that's because that's because my paleopet sells a great line of tallow products and natural beef cal is a lot more of the sun blocks than you thought it was. So that's a chemical of poison in my system. I don't believe in that. Oh my any makeup. You see me wearing ladies, I have no chemicals, and I can tell you where I get it. So so as the second part of this, because the way the events sometimes happen. Now, I've got a ton of stuff on my backside that I have to do.

15:08 But this week was also the week of the Global Pet X BOG, one of the biggest trade shows in the world, twelve hundred vendors and I'm almostly a founding member of it because I've been in the business for sixty years. And unfortunately, one of the drawbacks I'm finding jokis I am one of the older members of it. Most of my friends aren't there anymore. You know, the business has totally changed. It's not the small mom and pop companies that started the whole pet industry. It's now big business. And when you walked into that exhibition hall today, when did you see Michelle.

15:54 Well, other than all the puppies and the beautiful dogs that were dressed up, because I get excited with all that, I'm like a kid in a candy store. Other than that, I was amazed there were twelve hundred vendors. I found out after I left. It's overwhelming and as a consumer trying to make the right decision. I really didn't know, you know, should I go to this one? Should I go to this one? And after a while, after having gone to so many of them, I realized they're just repetitious. It's all social commerce. It's all you know, who has the best shootsy thing out there, the nicest name, the nicest blame. You know, that's what it's really about today.

16:37 You know who's going to show up on TikTok or Instagram or Facebook. And that's really what they're trying to do right now. So it's I mean, I took you right to the natural sections first, because that's what obviously my Paleo Pet file Complete does and that's what our mission is. And you look, you started looking at companies. I don't know what were there, sixty eighty one hundred at food companies at least, And the first thing that I. Did was turn the label around and start reading because as a health coach, even for myself, obviously that's what I'm looking at. So I'm looking at ingredients. I always watch what my pets eat from looking at the ingredients.

17:23 That doesn't mean that I don't give them a little treat once in a while, and you know, like McDonald's, we all have a little treat. Not McDonald's. I wouldn't do that. But I was looking at all the ingredients, and you know, even though some say they were raw, they had all these vegetables in there, and all these what was it, cranberry. Blueberry supplements as well synthetic And even though they said it's not synthetic, if you take natural turmeric and make it into turmeric extra, is that natural? What's the term? What meant with the meaning of the term. And you know when you looked at the first fifty different companies and they were all just tiny, tiny variations of each and it boils down to that point in time. What color was the package? How brightly was the package to jump off the shelf at you with the pets phrases the right, you know, regenitive, all natural, you know from the farms, farmers all over the place. Anyway, we're going to be right back after this quick commercial break.

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20:51 And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet's Voice. This is Bill at Health Guru in studio with Michelle health Coach, and we're talking about the we're kind of revealing what goes on on the bad side of the pet industry and what we do at my paleopat and I always let products and things of that nature. Again, I want you to share, like and subscribe. The shad is open if you're out there, just said, even if you just said as a high so we know you're there. It's always when I see who it is, it means something to me. It really does. But we were talking about all the different pet food brand the show you walk into if you're just looking through there, how could you ever select what is best.

21:39 As a pet parents? It was difficult. I mean I knew because I'm a health coach and I know Bill, and I already understand the concepts and what ingredients should go in. But I did take a few treats as samples, so you can have that, and I wanted to shot not going to show like names or anything, but just so you can see this. And my dog is sitting next to me because she wants it. And the ingredients are beef, right, we don't know where that beef comes from. Brown rice flour, I won'n't even see that to myself, cheddar cheese, I don't know eggs, olive oil, you know, olive oil, inflammatory, banana powder? Why do we need banana powder?

22:29 Pineapple stemp not even pineapple, just the stem and natural his kickory smoke flavor. So what do you got to say about this thing? I mean, what is natural about that? And okay, we demonize natural beef high tree, so this is a no high tree. So we capitalized and this is where it all boils down. To Michelle, rawhide was a good, healthy, natural treat for dogs forever, and when the government stepped in and set regulation on how you had to cure it, and that's where the most of the production went overseas. And because of that, now we had to demonize. Because the foreign stuff coming in was so bad, we demonized it.

23:18 And now we're coming up with soposedly all these natural ingredients, but stems, that's a waste product. By the way, that's a that's a waste product. And that's what ninety of these foods are made of. Is food waste. Garbage is the healthy alternative to raw hide. Okay, so they had to demonize rawhide, which is basically it's the inside of the what they call the split of the cowhide. The outside part they make in the leather. The inside part is by the way, Michelle, as a health coach, you've heard the term collagen. Yes, that's what raw hide was until they started adding the chemical by stipping it overseas.

24:06 And that's another thing. We don't even know if these products are coming from overseas, right, that's really from China. We don't know. Does it even say doesn't matter. Probably out of the country. We don't know where where they're sourcing their beef. I know you picked up a good one which is one of us high end raw diets. Well, this one says all natural raw pet food. I'm going to show you, and it says food dogs were designed to eat, nutrition you can trust, So that's nice. And then I open it and it says beef recipe for dogs, beef hearts, beef kidney, beef liver, eggs, kale, cranberries, sunflour, oil, organic dried health, and eggshell. So let's break it down for everybody. You were saying that in the wild, the like coyotes and wolves, their first thing that they go to is deliver. Deliver, right, so that this one has deliver as one of the last ingredients. And then they go to the kidney.

25:09 Right. Kitties are right there. But the kidney is a small organ on most on most animals, so it takes it out of proportion. And then of course you got beef heart, which is actually not an organ, but it's a muscle meach. And by the way, it is actually high fat, which everybody worries about, but it's not an issue with dogs. And carnivors, and actually with us that is the fat conflict is really overrated. But there is no real places the beef. There's no steak, there's no chops, there's no ribs, nothing. But what about kale? I mean I don't even need kale or recommend kale to my mind. Well, so what about you?

25:52 I don't care about your clients, but you know what, where do wolves get kale? Year round? By the way, because when you're feeding one of these diets, this is a daily, day in, day out thing. Okay, so you're feeding the same thing every day. So I had a question few how many people do you know? And I'm gonna ask you out there in the audience please comment, how many if you eat kale every day as a staple part of your meal? And is it fresh, organic and locally grown? I mean that's important. Now there was another ingredient on that label that we've questioned as wellber cranberries sugar how well, well, yeah, the sugar part of that that's interesting is great catch on that. But on the other side of that, as humans, Okay, first off, we know the way cranberries are raised, that sort of thing.

26:48 You only get a small crop and then they process it somehow would make them last for a year in the bogs. And but normally humans, humans would normally have have have prayed like that's a holiday. So you might have three or four meals with cranberry and next time you have it because you have a urinary track infection. So are these are these Are they anticipating these loves to be have urinary tress problems? I don't know, But even myself I can tell you as an educator because I see the students eating of their lunches every day in the cafeteria, and all of them get packages of cranberries. When I turn it around, there's not not only cranberries, extros that they adding into it extra sugar to make it just even sweeter. So I wouldn't see that to my dog's sunflower oil. That's I know.

27:48 Wolves and coyotes, you know, obviously they have to shop at I don't know, White Men's or whatever. How about the kelp? Yes, kelp is the next one item so loaded with minerals, and our bodies are basically deficient in it. Our dogs are too because our soil is so deplete. But where do the wolves in Minnesota North Dakota. Where do they source their help? And and again, now you're looking at one source of minerals. Don't we need diversity? Yes, vrotational diets so that your dog, your cats can silence nutrition.

28:32 That that's the way we builds it. Now when in a chemistry set of afgall which is the regulating body over foods, we can do it in a chemistry set that we're always getting the very minimum of what we need of each of these ingredients. But what's absorbable, what's absorbable, what's bi available? The herbs, herbs are whole foods, They're actual foods. I put them on my dog's raw food, and those help you get help in your one of your which. You know it's we're educated or indoctrinated more to believe that we can just feed one thing, day in day out for the length of our dogs and our pets lives, cats as well, and it can go to our livestock as well. Effect I've made him comment to Michelle, I've been in the business for sixty years. This is the first pet trade show I went to where I found a ton of chicken accessories, coops, feeds, additives, supplements, and we're talking with them. Me being in agricultural scientists and eggs scientists and animal scientists a factor that I didn't know that chickens are now the number three pet in the United States.

29:56 They're very social. I actually held my first chicken one day. Is very exciting. I'm thinking of getting some chickens, but only yeah, feeding them any junk food. But it's amazing that that in sixty years, all of a sudden, sixty years later, I'm watching livestock what we called what we considered food animals becoming pasts. But most of the people raising chickens are not raising them appropriately. We spoke about that, yeah, I mean we talked to one of the vendors that were there, actually a veterinarian who should have been a professional, that feeds basically food waste feed grade chicken feed two chickens, and they think that's you know, it's perfectly fine. They're not getting the you know, the pasture raised, pasture fed. You know, you can do it even in the backyard. It's amazing because but when we looked at some of the houses that are available, you know, people are spending one thousand dollars on a you know, basically a house, you know, a condo if you will, for your chicken and is. Yeah, it was very nice. And of course their designs you can actually move them around your yard, so you're you don't have to pay a pesticide person anymore to spray your lawn. They're going to at the weeds as well.

31:25 You just keep moving it around, moving around, and you know what they're working for you. You're getting eggs. And be careful when you're buying eggs at the supermarket. You don't know what those Pete and Jerry, you know all of those eight companies. That are out Now we got thirty seconds before a break here. Now, one of the things you have to worry about when we talked to it a little bit about it in the first part is the packaging and all that you have something that you found on social media about social media and influencing. Yes, basically all of what we did today with social commerce, teaching head parents how to evaluate, how to purchase these products, how to discover them. And we're not you know, we're not not intelligent. We're intelligent beings, but we really need to be educated as far as what we're seeing out there.

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33:46 botanical herbal products are available by only the best any clean. To learn more called biocomplete Natural Diets and Herbs nine five four four seven two one four zero four or visit biocomplete Natural death dot com. And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your Pettit's voice. This is build a Pet Health Duru along with Michelle, my health coach, and we're talking about the we're revealing really what goes on on the backside of the animal industry, the pet industry in particular.

34:27 I'm not going to get into all the veterinary stuff tonight because that's a whole other can of worms. But you were, I mean, I think you were just in total amazement as to how many products are out there. You probably saw twenty thousand different dog toys. Now you walk into your local you know, big Box, Score or whatever, and you see one hundred. There is stuff that you've never you could never even imagine. All of these toys and gadgets are coming to a score year you. That's what the pedexpose about sharing what they're going to break the bringing. Now. The other thing that you were quite amazed at is a number of countries and how certain countries actually positioned themselves, like we saw Canadian products that made it sound like American products are horrible. And then on the other side of that, you know, you're looking at some of these things from the Orient where could be made in China, Thailand, Vietnam, because they're all moving stuff around, So if you don't want Chinese products, you can get the same product from Vietnam or India.

35:40 I saw India. India is another bigie. Absolutely, yeah, the rams horns and that sort of thing, all natural treats. But basically, actually you and I did a I know I did it on leftovers, which a lot of the stuff that's in the industry are left overs from other industries. We've done a lot of labeling, laws, ingredients and stuff like that. And the whole point of this is you really got to do your homework, and you know, are you know with my company, my Palaeo pet Biocomplete, people don't realize that there are some good people out there that do their due diligence. I do. I go above and beyond.

36:26 I criticize, you know, Bill your two particular and things like that, But then again, you could open a pet shop at supply store just running through Amazon, and you don't have no idea sometimes where those products are coming from, how they're made. You know, I think that I may interject the same thing with people buying supplements from Amazon. You know, you don't know how long they've been on the shelf, you don't know which countries or where they're coming from. Uh, you know, we don't do supplements. A good example I found a company in it from India that makes dog toys and they were very nice and really durable. They're using a leather I think they're using either water buffalo or yak hides to make the toys.

37:15 And my question was how was the leather tanned? Because when one of my first product lines that I carried when I was as a manufacturer's rep was a line of dog collars that were made in Maine or the main they were Actually the leather we used was the shoe leather that they used for hunting boots, and that leather actually was a chromium tanned leather that was completely water foods. However, if you did that leather and they use dog shoot it up looking at Cadney and poisoning. So it's like you know, or chromium poisoning. I'm sorry, but that's what you have to worry about. It looks good, it looks Oh my god, they looks so pretty. I'll tell you they look durable, like give it the biggest love.

38:07 They'll never destroy them, but not the case and every collars. Dog vests dish. How many dog dishes did you see? But we asked specific questions. If they were made of real aluma, real copper copper, Yes, they were copper. Yes, my dog wants to be on camera trying to get the bone while I'm sitting here, exactly. She wants to be a thief and eat junk food. You can't have McDonald's tonight. Okay, now, I know there was a bunch of questions that popped up. I want to give us enough time here to answer them if if we can bring them back up. Yeah, it's all an yeah, absolutely, it's yeah.

38:53 Hardly eat kale? Yeah gee? Why would we feed that do our dog? First time here? I've been feeding commercial long for years. But interested in the upgrading and hopefully that's what we're here for on Scotia. If you're going to some of our archives and stuff like that, you can content. I'll bring this up at the end, but I'm available consultations that sort of thing. One of the reasons that we went to meet the Meat Meet Florida met is because I'm always looking for top producers of good quality, because we do not use what most rough companies use, which is basically factory waste, flutterhouse waste. And if it says even if it says FDA on an FDA facility, I hate to tell you this, that's the rejected meet in the facility. That's the cows that didn't make the grade to be USDA certified for human consumption.

39:50 That's what we use. Also, when they have a cow come through as heir comes through a lamb the same way that's got cancer, they cut the cancer part out and put it in the scrap bat barrel. That goes surrendering, which is what the big kibble companies use, and the rest of that goes to you. By the way that that animal had cancer, you're eating answer infected means unless you're know your farmer, that your buying plone. That's why we try a source as much in the same floor as we can with regenerative farms that we know personally. That's the big part knowing you personally where you can look them in the eye and you know what. That was one of the things that Michelle was a foundative.

40:33 I know how to phrase questions to get real answers. Is your are you all grass finished? Yes? However, the follow up question was, are you doing supplemental feeding? Uh? Uh uh okay, yeah, what we do a little bit. So what feed are you using? Does it controy? Does it contain soy and corn? No, we never use saleryr corn. But are you using a feed that's got soy and corn waste? Because that's a big, big difference, and basically most animal feeds today are nothing more than waste products from others. We were talking a little bit about wagou beef, and you know wago beef in Japan they feeded beer and they give them massages and it's all brain fed.

41:20 But that is not that's not healthy. That's omega sixes. It tastes fantastic. We actually had a chance to taste right today. Wasn't that wagu? No, that was actually out that they were cooking. Yeah, but anyway, American wagu is not the same as Japanese. Okay, they're usually does it. Say made in Japan or mad does. It even you have You would have to you have to go to a great import butcher right to get the real thing. And you're gonna pay about two hundred dollars a pound. So that package of treat that says Wago for nine ninety nine or fourteen ninety five, it's not it's a cross breed that they do in the United States. It's not. You know, it's not truth in advertising.

42:06 That's my biggest thing. Is it not being truthful? And Amazon and. Phil looking for how can a dog get killed? Or sunflower oil cal will be in your garden? Would shoot your dog for being in the garden? That's a good comment. Hey grandpa Bill, I miss you so much. Okay, Cetter quality flavor. That's my granddaughter. Really, Yes, welcome. My dear. Good to see you on here. But yeah, I mean we you know, you get the sample part of the family, the good beef that we get, and you know the quality of it's a world of difference.

42:51 You know that means so much to me. I mean it's you know, and you as an educator, so this is what you're trying to teach children, and you know that the parents aren't doing it, and I know it makes you sad, it does. You know, you're because you deal with the problems that come along with it. And if we can help, even on this show, that's why I want you to share it. If it touches one person that you sent it to and they sent and it touched one more person, and one more person, ripple effect, that's what we're trying to create. Yes, you know, not only for our pets, but for our pet parents and our children. You know, as a pet parent, you know, and I say this often, if you're not healthy, your pets suffered because they need you. They need you to be healthy, they need your healthy energy and that sort of thing.

43:40 We got about thirty seconds here, Michelle. How do people get you for health coaching? Wellcome available through my number, which you can get through my Facebook page at Michelle Regev r eg e V or my phone number nine five four seven seven zero nine two to seven. And I'm also an educator, So please text me and I'll be happy to get back to you as soon as I can, and thank you. I'm so blessed to be on tonight and every time I'm on. Yeah, and so is Charlotte, and. Of course I get be reached through my Paleo Pet. I'll complete petouse, Guru, Pehouse Cafe, obviously different emails. As a thing, all you gotta do is one of the different either social media sites or websites. And I'm available for consultations. And actually this whole journey is a prelude to things that are going to come with pet Heal's Cafe, My Paleo Pet, which we're going to reveal variers. So stay tuned here and we appreciate you watching tonight and thank you very much. As always, it was a pleasure, and thank you Michelle, thank you, thank you Charlotte.

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