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Tables Turned... Pet Health Guru Interviewed

Tables Turned... Pet Health Guru Interviewed
Tables Turned... Pet Health Guru Interviewed
Pet Health Cafe'
Tables Turned... Pet Health Guru Interviewed

Learn the story and the insight into the history and winding road behind the Pet Health Guru's journey in the animal health arena. A 60-year journey that illustrates the ancient wisdom and understanding of the physiology and natural healing processes.

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0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Lynn, Now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru.

0:41 Good evening and welcome to Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And no, Bill's not on tonight. Well baby, yes, I'll let you know later. Hi. My name is Michelle Regev and I'm a holistic health and wellness coach as well as an educator thirty six years. My passions lie in taking care of pets and their health, as well as taking care of the family's health as well. So my story is with Phil. I met him fifteen years ago. I was I am his customer, client, his coach, you name it. He's a really good friend and I am so intrigued by all of his stories that I said to him one day, I said, you know, if I'm intrigued by your stories and how Pet Health Cafe and my Palio pet came into existence. I met a lot of people would love to go on your journey of sixty years. It's just an incredible journey. He does not talk about it. He's very humble, selfless, and I want you to hear it straight out of the horse's mouth.

1:54 Before I welcome in my good friend, Bill, I just want to remind you to like and share this podcast because we need our algorithms to go up, and we want to set the tone. We want to make this a mission. We want everybody to join us in sending to my own very power by the way, so please help us share, like and also chat with us. We'd love to engage in conversation. So without further ado, I'd love to introduce you to the one and only pet Help Duru bail himself. How are you doing, Michelle? Thank you for having me on.

2:35 This is such a role reversal for me. It's like, you know, I once heard that you know when you when you have interviews like this where you turn over the controls of your own show, it's a risk, but I know this is going to be great. I just could not resist Bill having everybody know your story, because your story is unique, the true entrepreneur, I mean you've been in the field for sixty years. I mean, how many people from the test is such a thing. I mean when your testimonials on top of everything or just beyond comparison. So, without further ado Bell, I'd like you to share with everybody, how did you get started in your journey? How did what catapulted you into the field of animal science.

3:29 Always been a pet lover, wildlife lover growing up, always had all kinds of pets, exotic animals, you know, wild animals, worked on farms, did a lot of other stuff. As you can tell. My little child here is yelling at me because she wasn't able to go out before the show because it was pouring rain here. That's I think what we had from technical difficulty. But anyway, I started out there. I went to college for animal sciences. I was going to become a veterinarian. Found out back in the seventies, early seventies, late sixties, early seventies that nobody went to veterinarians for health. That was basically you know, it was all about emergencies and things like that. Nature.

4:17 Veterinarians weren't making very much money back then, and I got I got involved in the pet industry as a whole. I learned so much. I found I was teaching people that I didn't even know, you know, knew anything about it. And I worked with everything from tropical fish to exotic animals. Back then, we could have monkeys and skunks and raccoons, Quota Mundy's all that stuff, all the exotic birds. This was before the you know, the importation laws and everything else came out, so everything was available to us back then and work through management. Decided to go out on my own manufacturers rep finding good products to bring to marketplace and did that for twenty some years. Went into distribution.

5:02 While I was a REP. I helped design a lot of products for the grooming industry, for the aquatic industry, just because I was the interest. I took in what owners, what professionals, what tools they needed to do a much better job because I watched when I was a kid, the dogs basically lived in the yard or in the garage, and they moved inside. You know, the first time I started selling doggy clothing, I thought that was the craziest thing in the world. At one point. In order to get when we had our reach, when we opened up my paleo pet twenty years ago, you couldn't even have pets in the mall let alone. Uh, you know, unless they were in a bag or that's which included all the big dogs. And at one point we ended up the big the biggest distributor on the East Coast of pets strollers, so that so that people could actually bring their dogs and cats into our store.

5:55 And uh, one second, because I wanted them to know the way. You grew up in New York, right Buffalo. Yeah, I grew up in you know, the city where you see about two months of no snow. Grew up on a farm, right, Well. I grew up in the city, but we owned property, and so I spent all my summers on the farm. When I went to college, I ended up working on farms. I actually lived in an old farmhouse one while I was in college. Heated with a wood stove. You know, My my driveway was a half mile long. They actually had at during some of the snowstorm bulldozers in to get me out. That's how much snow there would be.

6:35 And it was it was a unique experience, I mean it was really. It taught me a lot about life. It taught me a lot about you know, because basically I was looking at nature every day. I had to see how animals really lived. My miner wasn't wildlife management, so that was a plus as well. So I learned about wolves and I learned about what species appropriate diets were. In fact, when I moved on to the farm, UH, I called my father one one from the one pay phone in town because we didn't have cell phones back then, and I said I needed an extra fifty dollars on my allowance. And he said, like, well, what for? And I told him I said. He said, what kind of trouble did you get in? I said, I didn't get in trouble. He said, well, what do you need it for?

7:19 I said, fencing And he said fencing? What what? What? What did you do? I said, well, I bought a heifer. I bought an angus heifer to start a breeding program. You know, what is the animal animal person supposed to do? So I started raising beef cattle and then got involved in I'll just say involved in in the trades. UH. Travel a lot call it. Veterinarians call that. Animal health professionals all over all of the actually all over the world. I mean I did several Boks to Europe and England, learned a lot about products. We found a lot of products there. I developed a lot of products for rumors. Like I said, everything from the tubs they used today that was my design. Different scissors, brushes, combs, all of that sort of thing, different shampoos. But I was always interested in the nutrition part of it, because when I would teach groomors, especially at the seminars, is that at the end of the day. And even back then we were still doing a lot of dry food, can food stuff like that, but at the end of the day they had the ultimate consumer on their table. They would had their hands on it, unlike a veterinarian, and you can see the structured problems. You can see the skin problems, the hair problems, all of that stuff. And I proceeded to try to educate them on proper care. And when the things the market changed back in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, it was like, okay, I had already talked as a rep. I talked with all the

8:50 big boys, you know, big box scores, the big companies, everything else, and I threw the idea to them about fresh foods and they said it would never work, so I had to go and where I met you is in the in a flea market, but it was a big It was actually one of the biggest sea markets in the country. And I developed a deli with a real deli case, real products. I mean, we made this stuff ourselves, all from human great products. I mean I didn't see him at all because I wouldn't feed my animals what I wouldn't eat, and I love good, healthy food. Never thought it was a health nun. Well, because you're listening the whole. The thing that fascinates me so much is your intensity in going out and getting the best beef for our animals, for our friends, stuff at families. You go out, and that's what I want people to really hear, because you're not just a fly by night company.

9:47 You've around. We've been doing this for twenty Yeah, we've been doing this for twenty years making the foods and stuff. But like I said, I'd like to eat good food. So when I was even a rep on the road, I would I would always eat at, you know, small family restaurants where they were doing home cooking, and it would be funny because I'd be actually taking customers out for dinner. And lunch and stuff like that. And I never looked at a menu, and everybody's studying the menu and everything else. And when they family came to take the orders, it's like, no, you didn't even pick up the menu. It's like, don't worry about me. I know what I want. And they're like, have you been here before? No, I've never been in this place before, and they're looking at me like very very strangely. And I would ask when a waiter finally came to a person came to me, I'd go like, what did the chef buy today? Fresh that he cooked for himself? And it was always give me that. And then everybody at the table would change their orders obviously because you know they weren't. But that wasn't me being a health person. It just was my good food. And so if I'm going to feed my pets the same thing, you know, I sought that stuff out.

10:53 And of course, as we grew, I started to look for suppliers. You know, basically where we are today farm the table. I visited the farms, regenitive farming, things of that nature, and it was you. Need to you know, say it again. I want to go and you actually visit the farms. Yes, we visit the farms. I see how they're taking how the animals are not only cared for. But then on the other side of that, when I when I had my education, all the farms were basically regenerative. They were all had mixed livestock. It wasn't you know, it wasn't factory farms. It wasn't you know these million bird you know, uh, you know, chicken houses, things of that nature.

11:41 And so you had the diversity. And then of course was the mechanization of farm equipment, so you know, growing monocrops where you're depleting the soil all that, the nutrition went down. We didn't have GMO, we did not have cly fasse a, we didn't have you know, all all these fake products. Basically, even though they're grown in nature, there's still fake. You're man made. They're not what you would find in nature. And when we look at foods, and we can get in this a little bit later in the interview, but local and in season is so important because not only do you have the proper nutrients for your area, but there's the second part of that, which is energy, vibrational energy, and that's what basically allows the body to use what you're eating.

12:32 And that's a very very important part of that because you can eat a lot of good food, so called good foods that are on a list of antioxidants and stuff like that. Blueberris are a good example. But here we are in Florida and we're eating them from South America. We're one hundred and eighty days out of sink, and so the energy is not the same, So it doesn't work the same. You're not getting the same nutrients. And as we've been studying over the years, we're finding out that more and more the minerals are the most important part of that, because if you don't have minerals, your body can't use anything. And so the but I did want. You to explain the difference between your food and like what someone might go to pasco or a warehouse or public How can you explain to someone the difference. You're talking about the regenerative farming, which is awesome, but in your own words.

13:27 Well, we know that today probably eighty to ninety percent of for let's say, just beef and chicken, the two most popular meats that did the most of that is coming, especially in the big box stores. The super rocktestral thing are coming from the food industry, if you will, and those are all factory, factory farmed. They are fed primarily gmo grains, corn, soy and a lot of things like that. Well, first off, when we look at that food herself on a ruminant which is what cows are, they get four stomachs and they have to ferment their food. Well, when we feed them only grass forges, we get them on just on pasture, no grains at all. Their body is designed to convert that into omega three and nine, which are the healing omegas. That's what keeps us healthy. When I was a kid, we didn't have to take supplements for it because it was in the food. Now when we've made as soon as we started giving those scoops full of oats and corn and soy and all kinds of other grains with additives to them, things like molasses and all kinds of chemicals, you know, all this stuff and a lot of seed oil as well, that turns into omega six. And I can remember back in the age when they made that started to make that big, big change with the you know, grain fed angus steaks are all perfect. You know it's the best beef at all.

14:53 And what they were looking for is just what every piece of meat looked the same with marbling and basically no fla because ress finished varies quite a bit from cow to cows, steak to steak season the season, And but I can remember people over people, especially like I used to love steak. Now when I have steak, I get an upset stomach. I can't digest it properly. Well, it's not the same product anymore. It's the same thing with chicken. I mean, you know. Anybody they put it in a solution, Well they. Do the hormone, but they also call it different things too. Even though they say it's hormone free, it doesn't always mean that. The labeling laws are another big part of it.

15:35 And you know that that is one of the worst things that I have to come across, because they mislabel everything and there are no legal definitions. And I know I trust you, They'll know your customers trust you to provide the very very best quality. You know, it's not every place where you go where you can actually have some You're like our person, I'll butcher, our researcher, you're our everything. All in one, Well, people need to know you're not just yeah. I mean I got to know a couple of weeks ago from our uh our slaughterhouse, uh and our beef people actually are all our eat people that they paid more for calves this year than they have ever paid in the past. Because number one, we're looking for unvaccinated.

16:23 We're growing them up ourselves on our contract farms all day hours on pasture. They're not getting the grains, they're not getting the vaccines, they're not getting the supplemental feedings or anything like that. And when it comes time for calling and for slaughter, we're picking the best of the best for us and the rest go into regular supermarket meat. I mean, it's you know, and just because uh, you know, and we see this a lot with uh, some of the raw foods that are on the market that it says usd inspected meat, well it doesn't see approve me. A lot of that is the stuff that was rejected. And people don't realize there's about thirty different classifications of beef.

17:07 From your best prime you know, WAGU down to prime beef, there's like five different grades of that. A center cut is different than an end cut. Choice. Then you get into select, which is what most supermarkets carrying, so you're down already three grades. Even if you're buying supermarket in me, it doesn't tell you if it says grass fad, all cattle are grass fad. They're not grass finished though. And you know, I showed you even a farm that you thought was really really great where they were sneaking in grains and actually changed the law to break the law. And then of course you go out, yeah, and then they actually go all the way down to what's known as industrial beef. This is what we ship overseas, and these are all dairy cattle. Now they're not raised for beef, they're raised for dairy. The rules are different. They can use antibiotics, they can use steroids, they can use hormones, and so that meat is basically very very tainted. And a lot of the commercial outlets out there, they're trying to keep their prices low, so they use lesser regrades than meat that you know in the biocomplete line. I use choice or better all the time. I don't compromise on it, and we buy we buy the primal cuts, so we're actually processing everything ourselves fresh and you know, our process and our process is that you know, when we do it, like even on the pen stuff it comes in, we cut, we grind, it goes right into the packing machine, right from the packaging machine into the freezer, so you know it's not even exposed to the air

18:37 for very long. And you know it's it's it's a process that's you know, we do it in a in a human food type operation. I can't produce. I can't package my human foods in the same place because of the law, because I cannot label pet foods anymore as human grade because the government says, if your intention is to give it to your past, it has to be graded as feed. We're going to break in just one minute. But if I did see one question, just want to mention about berries frozen dirty frozen berries bad? Oh, They're okay. It depends again on source, you know, and how they're done.

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21:44 Welcome bath a health boo, Bill. I was thinking during the break. So we've mentioned a lot of your past and how that catapulted into your career and everything. I'd like to bring it into present day. I just go back a little bit to my Kaleo Pet and how the name changed and where it existed in, what year did it start? How did you come up with the name, How did you even think that? Well, it's fun it's funny of course our original store in the Festival flea market when we had we're sending in the flea markets, like what are we going to call it? We need a sign? And just because of the flea market, atmosphere or everything else fes. It just came out, and of course we had a pet deli, which was unique at that point in time, just before the government shut us all down, and that five years ago, almost six years ago. Now we knew we were making a change because the property had been sold, we couldn't get a long term lease and we had all the fun you know with moving a kitchen and everything else.

22:48 We need time to plan, and so we started putting it together and a group of us, my employees, my CFO, myself and a couple of other consultants that I used, we just came throughund the whole bunch, and Paleo just kept coming up, you know, because it essentially we weren't at that point in society where we were talking about carnivore diets yet. But I had actually done papers in the fifteen eighteen years ago about using the ketogenic diet for uh, you know, for cancer and things like that. I actually wrote the original papers that they use now in cancer treatments. But you know the next step was like, okay, this is a Paleolithic style of eating, and so that my paleo pet was was born we've regretted a little bit that we put the pet on the back of it, because, as you are well aware now, we have evolved into a lot of you know, farm the table, clean foods, regenerative foods and along that line. And that started because when people saw their pets switching diet and going through what they considered miracles of a transformation. I'm going from dying some dogs given a week to live to running around the backyard. And saw that transformation, and then I started getting the you know, the uh. I got two requests that actually came up. One was, Bill, my dogs

24:18 are eating better than I am. What can you do? I got a program for that. And the second part was I know you're not a doctor, and I don't profess to be, but I have an understanding, and it's like, will you be my doctor? As you know? And it's funny because I know, sometimes it's funny that I get I know more intimate details about some of my customers than their spouses do. It's like, you know, sometimes it's like, oh my god, I have more information than I want to know. I mean, I became a customer because of my dog. I had a shit to at the time, the age sixteen. Thank you, thank you, Bill. Not that he passed away, obviously, but then he was on such a great diet and he wouldn't pass away earlier. So attribute all that he was eating up until the day we passed the baby boy past. I should say, when I saw how well my dogs I had four pets, right, and when I saw how while they were eating, I said, Bill, do you have anything for you know, for people? And when I went into the store, which was in Brower Cabins, Florida.

25:25 By the way, these you don't know, off the sample road and is it military military. Line, I know, yeah, between between the turnpike and easy to get to. Yeah, so you can get your things delivered, which is amazing. And you know, not to go off on a tangent, but I went in and I saw the food in the in the freezers, and I said, business for people, and I started buying the food. Then we loft the life. You know, it's chicking delicious. I mean, everything is just absolutely tastes so much difference when you buy it at the supermarket. That's a big thing. You can actually tell the difference.

26:07 And I've been doing it for so long it's like I recall that sometimes if I'm really really busy, the girls will make me lunch or breakfast or whatever. And they actually ran out of our pasture raised day. So somebody ran into a supermarket, don't tell Bill, and they bring out this plate and I'm looking at these and it's like, what are they supposed to be? It's like they don't look to say, not spell as safe, and obviously they don't taste the same. It's like, you know, and they were like, oh my god, you know I can't. Get yours delivered for whatever reason. It's too late, and I go, like a sprouts, It's still not sprouts. They still don't haven't. They don't realize. They don't realize the amount of processing that has to be on the back because of government regulation.

26:53 I mean, all your eggs in a supermarket or any big box store a run through a Clorox path and are run through radiation. Well, eggs shells are permeable. They absorb that bleach, which is why the yolks are normally so pale looking. They've been bleached out. But with modern technology, now we can add food dye to your chicken's diet and you will have do you want purple eggs. We can do that now we have that technology. It's I know, But. What they need to know is the shell is so important. I you can give the shell to your the shells to your dogs. They should be eating them. Yes, I do.

27:34 Yes, there's ways, you know, we've had we process them a little bit differently obviously for what would be considered supplemental use. But even when it comes to like all all the herbs and botanicals, I don't look at those as supplements. Those are whole foods. Those are actually ancient foods. They were here. That's what the dinosaurs dyned dead. Now I know they all died off, but you know it wasn't because of the food. But he's a totally different level from a lot of people because they don't know half the stuff that you tell me that you eat. I know, and you know I wanted That's one of the things I wanted to address here because you ask me as a client, as a customer, where I get this information, and you and I have shared some you know, we we we know different experts in the field that we both watch and listen to and answert things, and they all contribute to what we're doing as a whole, but a protocol from a single person is very, very difficult.

28:29 I was talking with a healthcare professional yesterday about the same topic, and it's like so many of them get stuck in their ego. They want to do everything for you because they're doing the research. And I researched this particular vitamin, this nutrient whatever, and I'm an expert in it, but you're not exploring the secondary part of that with how it interacts with everything else. And I, you know, I alloc at it. I'm not a pure researcher. I take a lot of data I run through my brain. I'm basically a consolidator. I take from here. I take the best of the best of the best of the best and the newest and that sort of thing, and you have to put it together as a whole. And I mean, I've had guests on my show before, as you know, some holistic vets and stuff like that, and they're good in their area, but when it comes to looking at the whole, I mean, at the holistic conference that they had here in Palm Beach for three weeks ago, for weeks ago whatever it was, here's the holistic vet's talking about what drugs they combined with herbs. Why are you combining drugs with herbs? I mean, it makes no sense.

29:33 And if you go to a specialist, a specialist doctor, they're looking at your heart, they're looking at your gut, they're looking at your liver, but they're not putting the pieces together. And you know what, so when people ask me, you know, where did this stuff come from? It didn't come out of a book. For me, it's what I consider to be ancient wisdom. And you know, because you look back, you have to go back, keep going back further and further and further, and you find the connections. And you know, when you look at that ancient wisdom, now you have to combine it with an understanding of it. If you don't understand how all this works together, not as a single component, but all together, you're actually complicating and making problems with the body. Whether there's a pet or yourself that can create tech. You know, when you're giving a prescription, yourself or your dog's given a prescription, you're back at the hospital, back at the doctor, and you're getting four more prescriptions. And it's for life. Why, because we're not healing anything, we're just masking symptoms, which you know right now. Prediction is eighty percent of dogs over the age of five will have cancer. When I started in this business, there were zero.

30:51 You have superpowers that most people don't realize. You read people, and I do this too. It's not only looking at data. I'm looking like their blood work and all that. You read people. You are intuitive, You're you're almost like an energy dealer. You're almost you almost have mediumship qualities. How I see it, you are not. You really do need to own it because a lot of doctors they don't have that connection with their patients that you have. You know, I say I have it too, But we together were able to look more into that person and figure out the missing piece. It's just God's it, you.

31:36 Know, you know one of the things that is a question I don't want. I just wanted us through out there. If you as a pet owner, if you as a parent, as you as a caregiver, as a spouse, as a child, you know, as a mom, as a dad, if you could help even one of them with their health with a better understanding, wouldn't you to do that? That's our passion, That's that's our our main mission. To make a movement. That was my next thing. The mission. It's the missions, just one at a time. But you have to open your eyes and you have to realize. You know, they put me on a drug, said I have to take it for life. Why ask the whyse because they can't give you an answer because they don't know what the cause.

32:25 They're not looking at root causes. They're not looking at what lifestyle changes. I mean, you know all of us that have passed. Oh my god, I woke up this morning. There's diarrhea all over the floor. Okay, my dog is sick. Let me run into vet's office. Well, first off, anything that's bad, that was housekeeping. It's already out of the animal. What if that's going to do it? Can't it can't put it back in to treat it. It's gone. One thing I've learned from retail, like my dog my have a doodle, right, and she was said the other day I came home from work there was file all over. But I didn't panic because I had Bill in my roo and I knew that she had eaten something on our walk, so I didn't That's key. You can't panish every minute, every time you see something You just got to take some big breath and listen to Bill because he does know. He honestly does know. I wanted to get into a very welcome pleas I wanted. My alarm is very fat. We got to take another break. People will be back in just a few do you soon.

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35:21 Welcome back to health, cat thing or your pet have a void? Go on, mister bill, I have another question. We have one. We have one, and that one I was gonna I was gonna ask you to live if we can, you know, attack this one first? Okay, do we make skin products for dogs and cats with sensitive skin? Number one? There's no such thing as sensitive skin. It's skin, Okay. Everything that goes into that dermal layer has to come from going in the front end, in the in the body, through the nose, with breathing, with the skin absorbing stuff and the nutrients. What is causing that to cause it basically toxicity, poisoning, and deficiency. So you have to look back.

36:06 Is there a product that will fix the skin sensitive skin, bad skin? Yes, it's called real food, unprocessed without a lot of chemicals. Because the body when you have skin problems. That's a function of deetocks. The skin is the largest organ on the body. We dump a lot of stuff out of it. If you eat or drink the wrong thing, you know, you go to the gym and you work out. The next day, you're sweating, you're stinky. That's basically what's going on. But remember that as those toxins are coming out of that body through the skin, they're poisoning the hair follicles. So now we have to replace the hair follicle.

36:47 We have to look back now that toxicity. How do we fix that? You have to start with the filters, the liver, the kidney, emphatic system. You have to keep those clean. And nature provides plenty of that will do that. And you know we have them of course at Biocomplete products in my paleopat. They're available in a lot of different places as well as you know is natural botanicals. You have to know your sources though, how clean are your sources, how good are your sources, which we talked about earlier in the show, But that's where it all starts. And if you start to you know, most most companies I can give you use I used to sell palettes of fish oil, which dry food because you didn't have fatty acids. That was a deficiency. We knew we were food companies knew they were feeding you a deficient food, and then they advised against supplementing. Why would they do that, you know, because if you realize that, you would move to something different, like that real steak that your dog wants.

37:48 You know, you got big dogs. That whole chicken. They can just crunch, crunch, crunch, you know when you look at pre model food, that's what it is. Becauesn't you the I don't even do supplements, And I want you to know I used to be a big supplement person and now I'm really existed the herbs of the whole foods. Ten years ago for the ladies out there and menopause. I had a hysterectomy and my doctor said, good bioidenticals, bio identicals. I did that for nine years until deal with the herbs. And now I'm on that and I feel fabulous. I really do. So if you're interested, it's. About understanding that ancient wisdom one hundred and fifty years ago.

38:32 One hundred and fifty years ago, we did not have all these pharmaceuticals. I think I think I saw a post that you shared with people on how did before pharmaceutical before the shots? I will mention what they are called, because that name sets off alarms. But before that, how did our babies live without seventy plus? Yeah, and we be alive. We don't need seventy plus interferences in the body to grow life. And when I look at whole foods, okay, when I look at whole foods, what's demonized? Okay, eggs were demonized because of the cholesterol. Right, if you don't cook that egg and it's fertilized, it turns into a life.

39:18 It's alive. It's actually a living food. Now. The other thing with mammals was raw melk. Oh my god, you'll die with raw melk. Every mammal on the face of the earth that is alive today started with mom's milk. There are so many misconceptions and so manyncks, and that's why we need Bill the help lives. I do want to throw this in because I know this hour goes by so fast. Anyway, I want to talk about I wanted to throw something in about programming. You know, we're influenced by the TV, the internet, speeches, you know, all the politics everything else. Now, one of the interesting things when I was doing research for this interview actually is how one of my problems is I work too much and I get yelled at all the time, and I need to rest. I think about now. Think about this though, when you when you're being programmed, we basically are programmed to think that, okay, we you know, we have to do all this work. We have to be buzzing around all the time. But when it comes to sleep and rest, how are we supposed to accomplish that. Oh, we have a sleeping pill over here, we have this struggle over here, and the other biggie that every time you look at anything that's done, it's happy hour. We're influenced to do things that are out of visil, and all those products are also toxic. We are so now

40:49 our body is not only fighting the sleep component, a resting component, but also now detox, which we do when we're supposedly sleeping. And you need more. You're always saying to me, how you don't get enough because you're so busy researching. I know, I'm a rabbit hunter, that's I'm always down the rabbit holes. Right before our. Hour goes to ask you just few more questions. Okay, professional achievement you say, is I think I know it? I think did you hear what I said? But what can you hear me? Yes?

41:29 Okay, So what professional achievement are you most pot In a few words, that's several questions. Number one, I would say because of the current state, especially in our dogs and cats. But now going into people, number one would be my understanding of cancer. And then number two is the overall balance of the importance of minerals. And then once you understand the minerals, you've taken care of both of the first two, you'd have a question. He was asking, if you're planning to take my failure understandichizing it other people. Hey, anybody who wants anybody has a business idea, I'm open open any kind of ideas, and that's your thing.

42:16 I can. I don't have the time or the energy to focus on that business part of it. I mean, I'm probably in my business that's the worst area I'm in. I don't want to sit there and have to do the pencil pushing. I don't want to sit there doing the numbers. I want them to be done. I want to focus on finding finding better products, newer products, newer technologies. I mean, you know, we're playing around with phototherapy now with a company called LifeWay, which is I mean as a tremendous opportunity. And you you went through a little bout this week with your voice. Let me tell them about it, and let me also share with them if they can see, you can see my.

42:58 Little yeah patches, non transmit, no transnormal. They don't put anything in your body, they don't take anything out. I'll have the right here and I use several different ones. This is a new technology that's out there and I'm just in love with them. I can't tell you enough. I keep telling everybody I'm so excited about it. So basically i'll tell you so. I'm a teacher and I use my voice a lot. You get vocal for pain. I put on an ice Waves patch and given hours my pain was done. That was wrong. I also have had several car accidents. I'm not a bad driver, I promised. I was hit in the box and so my neck flays up from time to time, and that's why I wear it. Otherwise I walk around a pain and it works. They really do my purple funnel within an hour. I was done with the pain.

43:53 I sound ridiculous because it's like, how could you do that? And it's true, and we've been listening to different episodes about them and testimonials have they're good for demons, everything under the sun. Basically, I mean. The whole thing is we're looking again inside our own bodies. Our bodies are designed for one thing, regeneration and fixing itself. Drugs don't do it, Supplements don't do it. Most food doesn't do it unless it's clean and you know, by available. So if we keep that in mind, and that's why I pose the question is you could help even one pet, one member of your family, you know, would you do it?

44:38 And it starts with one step at a time. Sometimes there are baby steps. We know that with all these things, budgets always come into play, and you know, so you do the best you can. When we find on a nutrition part of it, if you're eating clean food, better quality food, you're not going to eat as much because the nutrient city is so much higher. And of course you're not putting extra chemicals in, so your buddy doesn't have to do nearly the work in detail and you know, I'm looking. I'm looking at the clock. I know we're one minute. What would you like to tell your audience. Come see us. I don't care whether you're you know, up where Michelle is and and her you know, in her group. Come down and see us at my paleopet dot you know, at my Paleo pad. I'm available at on the website. We do consultations. I think you're a consultation program as well. And you know it's about starting.

45:37 It's about starting today. Start today. This is our mission and would love for you to join us and partner with us and let's go. Let's help people. That's what we want. We want to help people animal and you can use the. Yes you can. Thank you, Bil, thank you for having me. Thank you, Thank you for Michelle for filling in for Bill. Uh. That was That was That's a fun way of doing it a little bit different for all our you know, our watchers, and I appreciate it. Tuning it again next week. I don't know what I'm going to be doing next week, but I'll come up with something. Good Night, folks, good night.

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