Skin itch and Gut connection ... Diet Related

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet has Voice. This Bill the Pet Health Guru, and I want to welcome back my co host, doctor Michael Dim. How are we doing, Doc?

0:52 Doing well? Bill, how's it going today? You've had a little bit of a hiatus. Yeah, you know, people were wondering and asking for you, and I'm glad you're back on you know you you know you have an impact out there, just and that's what the whole bit about this program is about. You know, we ask people to share it and to like it and to subscribe so that we keep getting these messages out. It's very very important. As you and I both know, we keep seeing more and more. How do I put this very delicately not to upset the so called profession, but we've seen a lot of issues with our paths that just are not acceptable anymore, and I don't see it getting progress being made with all the innovation that we've had. In fact, I wrote an article for a magazine a couple of weeks ago, actually the first of the month, and talking about how the dog tax was first passed in Henrietta, New York and eighteen I think it was eighteen seventy four, and the very next year the AVMA was formed, and then the very next year New York had the first Licensing Act for dogs, And of course then I kind of reviewed what went on vaccines in the nineteen twenties, and commercial food starting in the thirties and

2:24 the forties, and then kibble in the nineteen fifty five, and then in the seventies the advent of all these chemical presert preventative drugs for heartworms and pleas and all of that sort of thing, and how the veterinary community is just they never take anything off the list, They just keep adding it on. And I suspect this could be one of the issues that we're having with the health and longevity of our pets. What do you think, I agree, I mean, you highlighted it perfectly outlining all the developments of that we're seeing.

3:06 Oops, is my kiddy, all the developments over the years, all the technology and as you went through the foods and the vaccines, and then eventually the fleet tick and heartworm, which really has exploded. You know, there's so many different combination medicines now. It's it's like, you know, they're getting more toxic. It's not just one chemical, but it's multitude of chemicals in one drug and one medication, so you know, buyer beware. Yeah, and of course you know we've been indoctrinated over the years that you know, if something goes wrong with a little bit of diarrhea, vombat, lethargy, or just you know, anything that looks at it you abnormal, you have to run to a so called health professional, which really doesn't have very much health in the toolbox. It's mostly medicine, isn't it. Yep, it's you know, antibiotics and anti diarrheals and anti this and anti that, anti inflammatories of course, antibiotics and yeah, I mean, and then the body is trying to express these certain symptoms or discharges, and you know, the profession comes in with very strong drugs, kind of the old hammer and nail analogy, you know, just hammering in the symptoms, and then of course the body tends to get sicker on deeper levels, of course.

4:35 Yeah. And of course the you know, the common dage is if you know, if the hammer doesn't work in a bigger hammer exactly, or multiple hammers or multiple hammers. Yeah, you're right. I heard something recently on a podcast I was listening to with Ah doctor now of functional medicine. But that you know, you and I have talked a lot about foods and about this whole spectrum of you know, feeding one food for a lifetime, if you will, that the pet food industry is put forward and that sort of thing, and this happened to actually be dealing with our food sources as well, and that because of monoculture, agriculture growing the same plants year after year on the same plot of land. Of course, obviously we're depleting the soil not only in nutrients, but also in the biome of that soil. And that we as people have lost about thirty percent of our natural gut biome, which is going to lead into what we're going to talk about tonight. Somewhat about digestion, dinstai issues, and skin and coat. But we've lost about thirty percent of that diversity because we're being fed this neural range of foods, and we know that for the last fifty years or more we've been actually limiting

6:06 the the pet food by a lot more. This has got to have a devastating effect on that gut biome, doesn't it. Yeah, no, absolutely, And as you mentioned, the gut biome is the the window to you know, a healthy gut biome is of course so important for not just the health of the gut, but you know, multiple systems in the body. So you know, you make a good point. I mean, the depletion of the gut biome is just you know, rampant. And then of course you know, as you mentioned, when you come in with strong drugs and medicaments and powerful pesticide, you disrupt that gut biome even more. Well. You know. The other thing is, of course, you know, you and I both agree that you know that our pets need to be fed a species appropriate, clean diet. And when you're jumping now from a commercial pet foods, for instance, a kibble base or even a can base in many cases, to a you know, species appropriate raw diet. H Realistically, that whole gut biome has got to change, doesn't it. And it and doesn't that create a lot of the fear that is induced by the veterinary community, you know, with the diarrhea and vomitating and things like that. That whole system basically has to restart from ground zero, doesn't it. Yeah, no, absolutely, it's true. Yeah, it's you know, it's and

7:45 of course everybody wants to fix when yeah, right away, quick fix of our society. Right. I had a client in today that thanks a lot of It's nice to see here, see that you're still out there on the road anyway, A lota used to work for us, by the way. Uh and I've known it for like twenty five years anyway. But when we're looking at these diets and everything going into them, you know, between the chemicals that are in the commercial foods and the poor quality ingredients, and it's amazing how the gut has been able to even adapt to get anything out of this. And in reality, it's just I mean, it's it's it's so tough. And of course when we also look at you know, things like commercial probiotic products and prebiotic products that are on the market all over the place.

8:48 They're only addressing three or four types of bacterium that we need and we should have, you know, and they and our pets should have literally dozens, shouldn't they. Yeah, No, absolutely, I mean the probiotics are often synthetic, you know, products that include just a few strains, as you said, And it's important that that animals have a wide variety of of healthy flora that if you're going to add to the to the diet. I know, you talk all the time about food based sources of you know, natural probiotics rather than relying on these you know, kind of packaged processed probiotics, so to speak. Well, you know, on on on the process stuff. A lot of that stuff is pasteurized. And what does pasturization do If you're taking that there's twenty billion you know units, what happens when you pasteurize that, Yeah, the high heat just destroys the bacteria in it.

9:48 So you're it's like giving yogurt, right, you know the same thing. Yeah, like the commercial stuff out of the supermarket that has absolutely no live enzymes into it at all. And right, because of the past, because of the process exactly. It's it's amazing. So you had a very specific when I ask you about topics, that's really I suspect that you had some very specific things that you wanted to tie. Basically, what's going on with the gut, with the skinning coat and the scratching and itching problems, and that's sort of thing that both you and I see every day probably, I mean, you know, obviously a lot more than we want to. Absolutely, you know, the skin and coat issues are the number one you know, presenting symptom picture in conventional veterinary practice, skin coat and ear problems, hot spots and porchewing, and you know, common symptoms like that that people that really are quite annoying to the animal and the client as well. But I think it starts, like you said, with the diet and the idea that animals should be eating the same protein day in and day out. You know, that's the way that conventional veterinary medicine recommends for animals is they should feed you know, good commercial food, no table food, quote unquote, and animals are technically supposed to be healthy. And then you have clients that say, well, I can feed my animal this one protein. But then when they when they get a variety, they start getting diarrhea, vomiting,

11:20 and that's not a healthy gut that can handle a variety of proteins and sources. So, yeah, the diet is where it all starts. Bill, as you know, and you adline beautifully the the uh you know, the the nature of the commercial pet food industry, and it really hasn't changed much except that they've gotten more clever with their labeling and they able to hide the ingredients through cryptic wording and you know, fancy or marketing. So you know, the you know, the big pet food companies are sold throughout the veterinary throughout the United States, the the you know veterinary offices you know or old with you know, the big companies, which of course we won't name, and you know that's it's big business business. I was listening to actually over the weekend last Thursday, I went up to Orlando to the Global Pet Expo and just wanted to you know, I mean, I wanted to meet up with obviously some of my old friends from you know, fifty some years in the industry obviously and that sort of thing. But I also, you know, a major, a major portion of that show today, which didn't exist when I started in the industry, of course, is the pet food industry.

12:41 And I'm looking at all these specialty brands and even the national brands that are, you know, promoting very heavily and that sort of thing. And after I came from that, I'm looking at all these new foods, and I mean I had some of the sales reps approached me that I've known for some of them decades, and like, yeah, we just came up with a new food. But then I know you're not gonna like it because we had it, you know, in order to get more market share, we had to add in some carbohydrates on a meat diet or primarily a freeze dride meat diet. And it's like, at least we're in I mean, this particular sales rep was in the primarily frozen and freeze dride, which you know, I'm not really on the on board with the freeze ride because of the process again destroying a lot of the enzymes and the nutrient vailues. But it's like, at least I'm in a better range than the name brand. So I decided to google up a bunch of stuff this weekend and look at a couple of podcasts I was looking at several by so called board certified veterinary nutritionists, and everyone, every single one of them talked about all the pathogens and all the possible contamination that you could have in a raw or a home cooked diet and said, you have to go to a reputable manufacturer that's been around

14:16 forever. And of course you know the top three that we talk about, uh privately not in the show, and that they're reputable. And I'm looking at like, okay, one of them, their plant for like five years of inspections had had a hole, a massive hole in the roof of their facility over their extrusion machine which all the rainwater and all the debris and everything else could flow into that. This is reputable, by the way, the number of recalls that and of course you know the current one that's going on with multiple multiple brands of kibble that are suspected of causing all kinds of uh intestinal and digestive distress. And it's just amazing how they are so indoctrinated that they would never ever and I mean they stayed out in these podcasts that they're feeding these these veterinary brands and that their animals aren't doing well, and yet they continue to do it. I can't understand. I can't. I just cannot grasp that mentality. And I mean, I know you've gone through it, going through vet school. What they did teach and of course what are they teaching today? We have no clue right right. And then the variety

15:48 of these process commercial foods is you know, expanding. I mean they have not just diets for each clinical condition that presents to the clinic. You know, processed foods that you know were labeled for diget of issues or skin issues or urinary issues, or obesity or diabetic animals, they have all these special diets. And now they even have sub specialty diets. So it's it's not just the old days where you had even in processed prescription foods you had one diet for the heart, one diet for the kidneys, one diet for the for the skin. You know, again, won't mention the name of the company. Now it's like it's just it's mind boggling the complexity of processed you know foods that are now marketed to those veterinarians and of course indirectly the client indirectly the animal guardium. So it's really quite a quite a massive industry as we know. Yeah, and it's you know, it's interesting because the FDA in their own basically, in their own statements, claims that you can use uh products that are not fit for human consumption, you know, not slaughtered animal basically you know, animals that died of natural or unnatural conditions and you know, are picked up by renderers two three, four days later, you know, cooked down into a slurry, making them be labeled not for human

17:22 consumption because they're not you know, even properly labeled in many many cases. I mean, you know, when you sell a bag, you know, if you're in a clinical situation and you're selling a bag of food or even a canned food, do they have any clue what's actually in that container? And of course, according to the labeling law, if they're showing you know, on the front of it. First off, the claim that it's a prescription doesn't mean it's a drug, and it cannot make according to the FDA, again, it can make a claim that it will heal anything because it's the food, and the FDA says food cannot heal anything, right, how do they get away with it? Yeah, no, it's very true.

18:15 That's a good point. I don't know how they get away with it politics, right, that's yeah. I mean, you know, what was the last number I saw for the most popular heartworm remedy is that they were donating like half a million dollars a year to the AVMA to promote the product. Right, you know, that's powerful in that respect. But then I also heard something and another podcast I was looking to on the human side with the Functional Doctor, and I'm sure this is going on because of what I'm seeing in the veterinary community as well, that in order to do gain prestige and power and influence in medicine, that you have to start to pick specialties, and then once you pick a specialty, you have to pick a specialty within a specialty. Where we're getting to the point where we've not doctors at least on the human side, that are actually just treating one condition and they're not looking at the body as a whole. I think on the human side, it was like twenty eight different specialties that are listed today with more and more coming up. And you and I talk about this a lot, and we've got about fifteen seconds or so. We'll get into it after the break.

19:36 But then, if you're not looking at the body as a system holistically, truly holistically, there's no way of being able to cure anything. We'll be right back after this and get into this discussion much more thoroughly. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible. My Paleo pet is the answer. Let us help relieve your pet well, your infections, elegies, scratching and itching, diabetes, joint problems, cancer, and other ailments by providing our naturally raised, rock cooked or frozen biocomplete natural dietan trees that are custom formulated to be species specific and USDA approved. For more information, visit mypelliapet dot com. Are called nine five four nine seven one two five zero zero. Do you want to become a wholesale dealer or distributor of healthy and clean foods? Our friends and colleagues at Biocomplete Natural Diets and herbs provide only the best USDA human consumption braid choice plus meats, pultry and seafood. Our food comes from pasture raised in brass fed animals, and we never add hormones, preservatives, or chemicals are clean and all natural, species appropriate diets are

21:08 made daily in small batches from local farm fresh dairy products. Over one hundred herbal and botanical herbal products are available by only the best any clean. To learn more called Biocomplete Natural Diets and Herbs nine five four four seven two one four zero four or visit biocomplete Naturaldiets dot com. Welcome back here on the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet's voice. This is Build a ped Health Gurule along with my special guest hosts doctor Michael dimm And you know I want to I've brought up this specialty thing because you know, you yourself have taken a very very pecific niche in the veterinary community. I know it's that one is very popular because in order for you to do what you do, you're quite often bumping heads with conventional allopathic vets, aren't you absolutely sure?

22:19 Especially since, like I said, the two systems of medicine, allopathic medicine and homeopathic treatments work opposite in the body. So you know, one's working to counteract the symptoms and make them go away, whereas another is working with the body and recognizing symptoms as imbalances and sometimes increasing symptoms initially as the body puts itself back into balance. So you know, it's quite the opposite system. And so I'll sometimes get referrals from well meaning colleagues that you know, have their animals on prend and hisone, patients on pred and his zone and strong drugs, and then say, you know, can you help with homeopathy?

23:03 And the answer is, you know, possibly, but it becomes a lot more difficult and challenging when a lot of those medications and drugs are on board. Yeah, it's it's interesting. And again when I ask people like and of course subscribe and share all this information with everybody, put your comments in a chat that would be also appreciated. But when we're looking at that, usually when by the time you get that referral, by the time I sometimes get that referral, two things I find happen. Number One, they have been overdosed on conventional medicine, which created secondary, third, fourth, fifth, six hundredth tier issues. But also the bank accounts are are cleaned out, and it's like I can't afford to feed my dog real food, or can't afford the herbs and botanicals and all and these sort of things because you know, I'm still paying you know, my pet health insurance, which isn't covering most of it. I'm buying all these so called drugs that aren't covered, or if they are covered, or just discounted. And you know when you buy them, you know, when you get them directly from your veterinarian, the markups are a lot higher than if you ask them for a script and run down to your local Walgreens or Walmart, where you can get that same prescription for probably a quarter of the cost. It's a system that

24:37 I look at it is almost on the verge or the edge of animal abuse. Yeah, and it's tough for me to say, because I've been in the business for over fifty years. I was going to join the profession that you're in. However, back in the nineteen sixty and even in the early seventies, the calls for veterinarians was minimal. There weren't even that many veterinarian colleges. You know. It was like, you know, you saw your vet when it was in serious injury or an accident. There were no regular wellness you know calls or you know, postcards. That's how they originally started them out as and the vaccine schedule was completely different, almost almost no vaccines.

25:32 It just we've created a system where we're basically putting our pets in a shorter lifespan. We're covering up symptoms, which covers up conditions that we sometimes don't even see. And how do we judge the suffering that they're getting. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's difficult. As you said, it's criminal, the suffering. It really, it really is. One of the things I did want to bring up, though, because we're talking about the gut and we're talking about skin and that sort of thing. One of the most common comments I get on a regular basis is when they switch over to a species appropriate diet and if we throw out the vomiting, the diarrhea, the bloody diarrhea, the mutus and all that stuff, the number one change they see in weak one the skinny coat changes. Right. I mean, they're complaining about having to clean up loose stools, But oh my god, my dog is not scratching as much, his coat feels softer, he's got more energy, his eyes are clearer, Right, But they're still focusing on the negatives, aren't they. Yeah, No, they want everything to be

27:03 perfect. And so, as we talk about all the time, holistic health is not just everything going away. The body has to do some house cleaning, and there are toxins that are built up in the system over often months and years, and you know, it takes time to the body to reset itself and you know, put itself back into balance. So you know, a lot of times people will say, well, I tried. You know, certain people will say I try to raw a diet and my animal got diarrhea so he couldn't handle it. But they didn't they didn't give the diet a chance. They didn't give the body a chance to do what it needs to do. So but yeah, the tendency to focus on that one symptom is is often out there. Yeah, and it's funny because people don't have been explaining there's a lot more details to people. And I'm trying to change my messaging. If you and I know that you do the same thing on a daily basis. But when you start on a species appropriate diet, first off, the body's got to get rid of the bad stuff that's been in there, all the heavy metals, all the toxins, all that, and especially if you double down with different herbal products and you know, detox products.

28:07 That stuff all has to go into the gut to get out of the body, doesn't it. For the most part. I mean, yes, some of it comes out through the skin. Yeah, you know, with the rashes and the hot spots and you know all of that, the anal gland problems, the you know, ear infection problems, as it's pushing it out through the lymphatic system. But that's actually the body healing itself. And yet we've been told that's sick. Yeah. Yeah, well again the symptoms are recognized as the bad guys. They need to be eradicated. So you know, it's the hammer and nail, it's uh, you know, the body is expressing itself and telling us, you know, what's going on through the symptoms, and you know, the last thing we want to do is is suppress those symptoms. And that's what we typically do in the in the western medical model. Well that's you know, that's just and you know when we went before the Breakdore, when we were talking a little bit about your your specialty and uh homeopathy. But even with homeopathy, you've still got to take that holistic approach because you know, if we're still loading them up with toxins from food and water, you know, and things of this nature.

29:23 You know, all the household chemicals, the chemtrails, all the all the different things that we talk about. You're still fighting a battle within that whole body, actually going after certain symptoms as well, but we it, you know. And of course then you're looking at vibrational energy, which is how most homeopathics work. And of course that's the body is, you know, vibrational energy. We have to get all in balance, and that's where these foods actually a associate and you know, build on that proper energy. That's why that's why the animal won't eat certain things, are very reluctant to and other other things. They're just like, oh my god, I have to have this. Give me more, give me more, give me more.

30:15 And everybody's like, oh can I give my dog more? I mean, it's a fifty pound dug. It's supposed to get a pound. I don't want to overfeed them. It's like overfeed them. They're trying to heal. I mean, our bodies doing what it needs to do. Yeah, the body is not gonna is not gonna go with that far off track if you're giving it to natural substances, are they No, No, not at all. It just needs time, time to you know, put things back into balance and to discharge and like you said, and remove the toxins, you know, like you said, through the lymphatics, and that you know, is a process. It's not something that just you know, sometimes we get cases where you just change the diet, give a remedy, put them on some herbs and they just get better. But more commonly it's as you said, it's the body has to do what it needs to do to get rid of the junk that's built up in there for so long. You know, when we look at drugs, okay, you know most drugs, you know the four maiden side effects that most drugs have. Actually, I think it's listed on almost every single one, whether it's over the counter or not.

31:22 But as liver failure, kidney failure, seizures, and death. I don't know about you, but I don't want any one of those to you, no, okay, So we know that the liver and kidney can actually rebuild itself in approximately four months. We're replacing every cell. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen all at one time. It happens over those four months, and sometimes you have to go into you know, you're you're doubling and tripling that down because we're still ingesting, we're still inhaling. We're still bringing in more toxins on a daily basis, aren't we. Yeah, coming from multiple air, multiple sources, as you talk about, So it's a constant load on the body, and so the body has to work all the time at removing these things. And so it's a dynamic process. It's changing from day to day as you as you say, yeah, you know, I think that.

32:19 I think the one thing that drives me the most crazy is when a client comes in and they've been on going through allopathic medicine, whether it's on the human side or on the on the pet side. But you know, when I start talking about times, well I just finished a kidney cleanse or a liver cleanse or a detox program, what do I do now, It's like you can't stop. I mean, this is a daily process. Why do you think we eliminate every day? Isn't it? For the detox? Absolutely? And the foods supply, the like you said, the air, the water, the environment, the grass, the sprays, the pesticides, the exposures everywhere. So if you were to look at the because we got about two minutes here, if you were to look at that skin problem, that problem, what would you you know, what would you recommend if you will, as as a homeopath and as a holistic veterinarian. Well, I mean the first thing is the food, you right, I mean, the first thing I do is is recommend the raw, rotating, real meat protein diets of a great resource like my pallyopt. That's the cornerstone of you know, starting treatment. And as you said, very often, just doing that the

33:49 problems go away. Uh. You know other things that will do uh, you know, we'll use, like you said, the herbals, the botanicals. A lot of times we have to use certain detox homeopathic remedies. Knucks vomica is a very common one that will often really start these cases with because there's so many toxins that are built up in the body and Knucks is a very good homeopathic remedy to help with, you know, the detox process and to eliminate the energetic effects or the drug effects of the of the conventional medications that have been used over an extended period of time, so you know, but we try and keep it simple, Bill, I don't you know, as I said, I stress, you know kind of the like you know, you like you do the herbals, botanicals and the diet and then you know, the remedy comes in as an energy vibrational medicine to work with those other resources. And uh, you know that's how I try and approach it.

34:50 I mean, you know, I try to recommend food based resources like you've taught, you know, the world, goat's milk, the keyfer you're right, things you know, go wonders that helping with cut flora. Yeah, let's get more into that after this quick break. Does your pets suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be from poor nutrition and my Paleo Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet we provide fresh human brain USDA approved biocomplete raw food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for cats, we provide you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life. Our raw food for pets surpasses traditional raw dog food and cat food that you find in your local pet store. Our raw food is made fresh on the premises, sourced from local suppliers, and are made with only the utmost quality with specific nutritional and functional benefits. We deliver locally to areas in South Florida, including the Palm Beaches, and we ship frozen nationwide at Mypilleo Pet. We strive to offer the best in rotational diet formulations, clean raw human graide fresh food in our eco friendly, resealable packaging. For more information, visit mypelleopet dot

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37:31 All right, and we're back here in a pet health cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet House Gurrule, along with my special guest host, doctor Michael dimm And just before the break, you were mentioning things that we use as probiotic products, primarily things like the you know, the cow cheap goat, keifers and milks and yogurts and things like that, all of which you have got to be living. You can't use highly processed stuff because it doesn't have the live bacteria that you need. But one of the things I wanted to throw in there too is when you're feeding, we're looking at the gut biome and we're looking at the probiotic prebiotic products that sort of thing. All of those need nutrition as well, and that comes primarily from the various enzymes that are in real food, doesn't they absolutely? I agree. So if you're feeding a dead food and you're putting a probiotic he in, how were they supposed to live? Exactly? So those enzymes are key and any processing, like you said, even the freeze drive of course, canned and kibble that have those high temperatures, you just destroy the enzymes, and so the healthy floor we're trying to get with these food based products become much less effective. Absolutely. So, what we're doing when we do a probiotic product or a probiotic so called food, is we're

39:05 limiting the pro the biome two, three, four or five maybe six different bacterium, and then we're processing it and not giving it the enzymes that it needs to live. So its effectiveness is how many points above zero? Exactly? Ye, not many. It's a it's all against at that point in time, isn't it? Absolutely? And yet you get you know, and yet we've got the you know, the so called veterinary nutritionness and the veterinary staff and in the local hospital holding up that jar and saying you need this right now. And you spent fifty seventy five hundred dollars on this product, and what benefit did you actually get? Exactly? Yeah, as you said, it's a few strains and it's processed and it lacks the enzymes, so not going to be as effective for sure. Yeah. I mean it's funny because I'm doing so much more on the food side as far as looking at sustainable farms and you know, regenerative farms and how all this stuff integrates into itself. And then of course on the on the back side of it, you know, we're fighting with the governments, you know, both local, state, federal, on how to raise products, what they're subsidizing, what's

40:37 allowed to be used. I was watching a podcast this morning on how oat products and one of the major cereal company that makes little tiny round things that the kids eat all the time, not going to mention the brand, but that eighty percent of Americans are testing positive for a pesticide that's illegal in this country. And they were going through how the FDA didn't approve it, the EPA did. Interesting, so the EPA is allowing it to be used on crops. The FDA doesn't have any clue what's going on exactly. Okay, okay, okay, let's say I will okay. In my practice of CAB, I just lost one of my rescue dogs at twenty four years of age.

41:39 When I started in nineteen seventy one. I was introduced at my first job at a kennel that had a number of World War Two veteran dogs German shepherds. In nineteen seventy one, those dogs had to be in their late twenties, too close to thirty years old, and of course that was fifteen years before kibble was invented, so these were raw fed animals. I've heard about cats living as much as fifty six years. It was one in and it was documented in England a few years back. But yeah, twenty thirty year old animals with a proper diet and staying away from those toxic chemicals which are almost impossible today, you know, as possible. I mean, I got clients coming in. In fact, the salesman I was talking to at the pet trade show when he got his puppy, it was rescued, and of course he was on dry food and we switched them over to wires.

42:37 And then as he moved on because he was selling commercial that I didn't carry anymore, he switched over to the food that he was selling. And he was a big breed dog and he says I finally just lost him at eighteen years of age, and his sales manager's going like, that's unheard of. She's selling, she's selling raw food, and they don't even believe that it could do this, you know. But that's I mean, and you see it in your practice a lot. The longevity changes the overall health. And that's what it boils out to, isn't it. It's just the overall health. Yeah, the overall health of the animals. I mean, you know, the thing is is when you you know, when people adopt you know, animals from rescues or shelters. You know, unfortunately, those animals have already been slammed over the head with all sorts of chemicals and toxins and early spain and neutering and all those stresses on the body lead to you know, imbalances that take a long time, you know, often quite a while to get on top of. But even those animals, if you get to them early and you get them on what we're talking about here, you know, the longevity is going to be, uh, you know, maybe not as high as the ones you mentioned, but it's definitely gonna be, you know, greater than the conventionally raised animal. You know, when we were talking about the biome biomen and the dyets, and of course the fact that we've been feeding you know, a basically a monotype food to our pets for I

44:09 don't know, seventy years or more. Now, is it any wonder that in order to find to add diversity to the gut that our animals are eating, you know, our dogs are eating their own poop and their the cat poop and the duck poop and all of that. Absolutely, that's that's one of the big reasons why for sure they're basically doing their own fecal transplants, aren't they. Yeah, that's another product, another wave of therapy these days, fecal transplants. When you put that one up, so you know, I saw that on something that recently and it's like it, did anybody ever ask why we need to do this, why that stuff is missing in the first place? Exactly? Yeah, you know, I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I was just going to say the you know, and the topic about how that gut affects the skin. So many skin and ear problems, you know, start with that, the food and the imbalanced gut.

45:15 And it doesn't mean that that's going to solve the whole thing. A lot of the animals' symptoms, the last symptoms to go away when they're getting really healthy are often the skin and ear problems as the toxins are being pushed to the outside right, So you know, I know, we make that point all the time, and clients get very frustrated, and you know, an animal starts itching an ear and it's sensitive, and the temptation is to just put those steroid antibiotic drops into the ears and make the problem go away or reduce the inflammation. And that's the last thing we want to be doing. So I want to support the body, you know, from the inside out in helping them, you know, slowly overcome the tendency to the skin and ear problems. So it takes a lot of pain some time with those cases.

46:01 Yeah, it really, it really does. And you know, of course I know that, you know, I mean I look at the plusora of products and diets and you know, get her out there on the marketplace today, and it's the consumers are telling me that they're just getting they're getting so much misinformation or just information in general, that they're just confused. Doctor dim We got about two minutes here, where can people reach you and you know, how can we help them better? Well, we can go to my website which is doctordim dot com. That's d O C T O R D y M dot com and that has my email address and my contact information and I usually check my emails regularly several times a day, so try and get back to people, you know when they reach out. Okay, that's great, and of course you know they can always reach me through my paleopad pet health Guru, the Pet Health Cafe online. We do have our new site up that you can promote doctor Dim if you like, which is the Petthealthcafe dot com. It's up as a separate site so it's got all of our archives and that sort of thing. So I've been using that format our podcast that we've done together, and of course they do ones that you can do with other guests and that sort of thing. It's a good way to get people to start looking at what we do so they don't take up three

47:31 hours of your time and two hours of my time on the backside and be so confused. Because they get these nice little short snippets and of course if they like and subscribe here at the comments, they can start to get an idea of what direction they have to go, and that will just make your you know, your work in my work that much better. And in the show, another great show with you, doctor dim Had. You're back, hopefully you're back on a regular basis. All right, great, all right, good night folks, good night everybody. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible. My Paleo pet is the answer. Let us help relieve your pet well, your infections, ellergies, scratching and itching, diabetes, joint problems, cancer, and other ailments by providing our naturally raised raw cuts or frozen Biocomplete natural dieton trees that are custom formulated to be species specific and USDA approved. For more information, visit mypeliopet dot com. Are called nine five four nine seven one two five zero zero. Do you want to become a wholesale dealer or distributor of healthy and clean foods? Our friends and colleagues at Biocomplete Natural Diets and herbs provide only the best USDA human consumption braid choice plus meats, poultry, and seafood. Our food comes from pasture

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