Is Addiction a Problem In Our Pets

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0:47 This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, along with my special co host, doctor Michael dim How are we doing, Doc, Well, I'm doing well. Bill. How about yourself? Just hanging in there, trying to do the best we can. Finally, the month is almost over, the end of the under the theoretical summer, right, That's right, However makes any difference. Yeah, we've been battling it, of course down here, and you know, especially the West coast, but even on the East coast here we've been battling early part of this week this side effects of this hurricane, haven't we Yeah, yeah, I got some outer band rain here on the East coast with some wind and rain, but you know, at least we didn't get the bulk of it, and yeah, at least it didn't hit all the populated areas of the West coast. Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing. And you know, we you know, our prayers are always with you know, those that get hit with this stuff. And uh, you know, of course, you know, even in those areas, the population has got pets and animals that need basically they've been pretty much stressed out, haven't they. Yeah. Yeah, the animals that are already sensitive to electromagnetic changes in the atmosphere, you know, they're they're being more affected by these big drops in diametric pressure and you know, loud thunder and pouring rain.

2:15 I could just only imagine some of the animals own anxiety and also mirroring their guardians during these challenging those challenging times. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean, you know, since this is you know, our broadcast is going all over the place that if you're in an affected area and you know you need some natural treatments to help counter this, I mean, feel free to reach out to either doctor Dim for myself, and I know that you've got lots of homeopathic remedies that would be helpful during these times, and of which we do the herbals as well. Yeah, yeah, it really is. And there's a place in that for our our human or the animal guardians you know, as well as the animals of course. Yeah, well pretty much. And I know, well both on the herbal and the homie up homie a pathic side, it's pretty much the same things we would be recommendique for both, wouldn't it. Absolutely, Yeah, the remedies and the herbs.

3:15 No, no species boundaries, and you know, any mammalian species can benefit from the herbal botanicals and the appropriately prescribe homeopathic remedies. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, so you're gonna have to share with your pet or your pet's gonna have to share with you, which either way it works. Oh that's true. And so you know a lot of people, you know, again get very anxious during these times, and our pets pick up on that. So it's a time that certainly, you know, the herbs and the remedies have a good place to helping people on their animals get through these challenging times. Yeah. And of course, you know that kind of leads us a little bit into our topic tonight about addiction in animals and addictive drugs.

4:01 That are prescribed and that sort of thing. You know, if you went to an allopath about the said, you know, prior to a storm or things like that, what kind of things would they be prescribing, Well, you know, typical sedatives. You know, in the old days, we used to prescribe a thorazine tranquilizer, which is a powerful you know, human classification tranquilizer called ace promosine. We used to use that drug for many, many years. Yeah, we used to use the benzodiazepines like valium or xanix and those kind of drugs, and only recently the veninary profession has now gone over to using an old antidepressant and a sleep aid called trazodome, which is a very powerful you know drug and this and it can have all sorts of effects. It does work to sedate the animals and drug them. But certainly, I mean I found that in the conventional VET clinics it's so prescribed and over and over again, and now you know, not just for the anxiety with storms, but just generalizing anxiety, where animals are prescribed these medications every day, where originally they're intended just to use during acute situations. But what I've seen is is that more and more prescriptions for longer term use are being prescribed, and that leads to the problems we're going to talk about, which is, like you said, addiction, which can happen in our animals just like a canon people, right, And you know, in prepping,

5:34 of course, I pulled up you know, addictive veterinary drugs, and I mean a whole array of all the opioids and fentanyl and things like that are being not only used by themselves, but in these these veterinarians and doctors are playing chemistry and mixing them together. And yeah, what kind of reason else are you going to get with that? Both physiologically and of course you know mentally as well. Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, and even you know, the opioids they're sometimes prescribed in a patch form on the surface of the body, so that human you know, people can be exposed to these powerful narcotics. You know, they use morphine patches and other narcotics as you're saying, and so you know, these are real powerful drugs, and they you know, they not only cause tremendous sidation and potential for addiction, but have like you said, many powerful physiological effects on the body, including slowing down of the you know, the body's functions like the gut.

6:44 You know, often see you know, severe consultation in these animals that are prescribed these medications, and you know, the whole use of them, you know, stems around the conventional veterinary communities craze about quote unquote pain management, which is where you know, people you know, want to be mindful of our animal's discomfort, but by using our fears and insecurities. The whole pain management industry is as exploded into like what you said, is these combination medications and often including powerful narcotics, which again have a doing number on the mental and physical bodies of our animal companions. Well, you know, the one thing I you know, of course that I always worry about it, of course, even in a on the human side, is as you start using these more and more often, of course, you're doing quite often on the physical part of it, you're creating sometimes a lot more damage in the body because you just can't feel that joint or that that muscle pain or whatever you're happen to be combating. And they just keep moving up the letter to more and more powerful things don't they. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I totally agree and yeah, you know, and of course the other side of that is your pet can't tell you what they're really feeling or experiencing because there is

8:20 no common language. I mean, what we could do is based on the physical signs that we see, you know, the limping or the you know, apparent pain. The crying. Is it crying because of pain or is it crying because my body is not working right right right? It could be just anxiety over the discomfort of they're not aware of what's going on. And the thing about pain management bill in our animals is that I don't want to I want to make sure I weard this correctly, is that their experience of pain is totally different from humans. For example, you know, for decades we did spaces and neuters and routine surgical procedures with no pain management, and animals would run out of the office. They would be perfectly happy and wagging their tails or purring cats. And the truth of the matter is is that you know, an ovario hysterectomy or a neuter, you know, those animals really don't suffer a lot of seemingly discomfort, at least That's what I observed over many decades of practice, and I learned from a from an anesthesiologist in vetsicle that the distribution of nerves and our animals in terms of the mediation of pain is different from humans. In fact, you know, if a person had an ovario hysterectomy or a castration, they would be in probably quite a bit of pain and wanting pain. Our animals really, you know, really, I don't see or observe that much discomfort in these routine procedures where my

9:54 profession is throwing. Uh, you know, these powerful drugs, like you said, in combination and for decades we didn't use anything, and I don't think those animals were experiencing you know, awful discomfort at least that's not what I observed. Well, one of the examples I use. I mean, you know, your your example is a great one there from the veteran side standpoint. But when I was growing up, and that's sort of thing, I spent a lot of time, you know, on the farms and out hunting and fishing and stuff like that. And you know, you let you go out rabbit hunting or pheasant hunting, and you let the dogs out they're going through briers and thorn apples and everything else in their tail is just a wagon and they're running through and you're walking through, and you're you come out of bloody mess, I mean, you know, and the dog is as happy as could be. Yeah. Yeah, So a lot of times we impinge our perspectives on our animals, and very often our our own deflections of our own feelings and sensations and our own discomforts are kind of projected and sometimes inaccurately. So yeah, yeah, and it's and you know, of course I say this is this can be an issue because the animals can't tell us what they're really experiencing. We can only relate to what some of the humans go through, not only we're taking these drugs and the side effects that they can actually have at the time of being used, you know, I mean

11:26 some of these cause nausea and other you know, hallucinations and things of that nature immediately. But then of course you've got to you've got to withdraw problem on the backside that I don't think it's ever been addressing veterinary medicine. No, I don't think it's ever been really been studied. As I said, you know, drugs like you know that they're using now for the thunderstorm phobia. Is like the trazodone. That drug is now being used for long term control of anxiety, and it wasn't really intended to be used that way. And so animals will become dependent on these things, and they can suffer from rebound anxiety and rebound agitation once they go off of them. So yeah, you're absolutely correct. Yeah, And of course the normal you know, you know in a lot of the studies, of course on the human side, is when they want, when you want to get off of it, they slowly wean you off and that sort of thing. And the average veterinarian, all right, you know, pain meds for a month or two months, and at the end of two months, it just stops cold turkey, doesn't it. Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean another common drug used in chronic pain management now in ventinary medicine is gabba pennon, which hits the gabba receptors in the brain, just like the benzo diazepines. And in fact, there's some consideration, I think in certain states it already is that that particular drug should be a controlled substance. And because there are addictive tendencies to it.

12:58 People will often abuse it for their own anxiety and their own discomfort and pain. And it's such a commonly prescribed drug in human medicine and we basically borrowed it in venery medicine. Are using it for everything from anxiety to nerve pain to arthritis relief. And you know, it's used chronically long term, and you're right, it's just not None of these things are studied in our animals now. And the question I have is with the use of most, probably most of these, isn't it completely considered off label uses? Absolutely? It sure is. I mean, to be honest with you. Build Most of the drugs in venary medicine that have been extrapolated from you know, the human side of things are used off label. There are very few approved drugs in veninary medicine for specific conditions. It's they're mostly applied from you know, the human side of things, and you know, so they're really not studied in our most extensively. You know, several years, several years ago, there was another drug that was very popular to use it getting the opioid group called traumadol, and that was prescribed as you know, it's a mild narcotic, but that was used also in you know, indiscriminate ways. And then the profession actually started to study that particular drug and they actually found that the dog's receptors couldn't even respond to that. So they were saying it wasn't doing

14:28 anything for pain, It was just you know, because animals, certain opioid receptors are different in our animals than they are in people. And so then the profession all of a sudden stopped using that particular substance and just moved on to the next one, which, as I said, is often gab of penton or other you know type pain medications, right, you know, and if it's being used off label, And of course I've always hit a problem with this, even on the human side, but more so on the veginary side. How do we know what appropriate doses are that we should be using and for what lengths of time? And you know, shouldn't we if how do you monitor that there's actually any progress being made in the animal if they're always doped up, Yeah, that's true, if they're always chopped up, you look at the clinical response of the animal. I mean, but it's basically trial by error, Bill, I mean, it's just you know, a particular drug will develop a sudden fad use in the profession. Somebody will hear about it at a vent meeting, bring it up, and then they just start using them, and then they play around with the dosages and then all of a sudden it gets written up in a in a veterinary periodical and then it's off to the races. There's no studying of the dosages, the effects. It's just, like I said, trial by error, well, anecdotal, and of course, like I say, if they're if they're if

16:00 they're on these drugs themselves, there's no way of really monitoring any kind of progress in in any meaningful way. And actually the only thing we're monitoring is like you know, is a kidney and liver being torn down, or we're having heart problems you know from blood work and you know, different enzymes and things of that nature. Isn't it true? Yeah, absolutely right, you know it's you know, none of those effects are actually looked at, and uh, you know, we we just are you know, touching the iceberg on really all of these potential negative effects these drugs have on our animals physiology and uh, you know, you put it very well. You know, there's a so called supplement it's on that being heavily advertised for pain in humans.

16:53 And one of the ways that they see that it's actually working, its so called working, which I found amazing that when you really stop to listen to what the commercials say, it's like, if you really want to know what you know, your paint start to go away, go away, stop using it, and usually within a week's time the pain is bad. Will you haven't healed anything, have you No? And often the pain is worse. You know, we called out in homeopathy either palliation or suppression. Palliation is when we have to use the same drug over and over again to get an effect, and then eventually you have to use more and more increasingly higher dosages and then eventually, like you know you mentioned, that can stop working, and then we go to stronger drugs. And then the risk is when you go to stronger drugs and we suppress that symptom, then the imbalance or the disease can go deeper into the body, as we talk about every week on this show, and affect deeper levels. You know, So it really is a cascade of events when we use these drugs for the negative unfortunately.

17:57 Yeah, it really is. You know, we're coming up here in about a minute and a half on the break. I want to encourage people. If you've got questions, you can go into our chat post your questions and we'll try to answer them here on the show itself. Again, we want you to share this with all your friends and neighbors and everything else, and you know, all the social media platforms share it, subscribe and like it so we can get these messages out. I mean, you know, again, just like on our most of our shows, we've probably given out more information on pain meds than the average doctor knows, right right, Absolutely, it's it's it's it's crazy. We just got to keep building this community, and it's so important for our listeners to help us out with that because, as you know, I've been suspended from certain social media platforms, and so for me to get the word out directly isn't like it used to be.

18:59 It's tougher, and of course, you know, you're trying to get your social media up and running more efficiently, which it's not an easy thing to do, is it. No, not at all. I certainly assistance and help with it and uploading videos and blogs and all of that. That's not my wasn't trained really well in that area. But you know, it's just and I know we'll get into it, but uh, you know, we're talking just about the you know, the opioids and the other sedative drugs inventary medicine, but of course there's addiction to other classes of medication that we startainly can go into. Yeah. Yeah, like you said, we're right, we're about fifteen seconds away. And yeah, there's it's not only drugs, it's also in foods and a lot of other things that they're going on in our animal community and in our community. So after this quick break, we'll get into some we'll dive into some of these other things. All right, doctor damn, yes, sounds good. All right. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible, and my paleo pets as the answer.

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21:40 voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Gurgle along with my guest post doctor Michael dimm and we're talking about addictions tonight, and we've covered quite a bit on painkillers and opioids and things like that, but you just mentioned other drugs before then, and of course one of the things that again I want to throw out there. You got any questions through them in our chat, we'll try to answer them. And of course we need to find some health for doctor dim to get his social media going, so if you if you can help them with that, that would be great. So what are these other drugs that we have to worry about, doctor dam Well? I mean really many classes of drugs. Let's go right to the skin medications not really not really as addictive as the opioids and painkillers, which act on a very deep level in the patient. But our animals do become dependent on a lot of the common drugs used to treat skin flare ups and ear infections. So they'll often become dependent on antibiotics and steroids and other powerful drugs that are now being used for skin allergy relief. And these animals have to stay on these medications to control the symptoms until they no longer work. So, as I said, that's the homeopathic definition of palliation. And then you know when those drugs, let's say, if they are successful at suppressing skin disease or allergies.

23:04 That's when we see deeper illness. So the dependency of the allergic dog nowadays on that cortisone shot or the apoquel or the site of point injections or any of the newer treatments, you know, becomes problematic when those animals, you know, either you know, the drug stops working or you know, or the disease goes deeper into the body and then we have to use even stronger drugs to address those. So, you know, the skin drugs are certainly a big part of you know, dependency in our animals, and certainly the number one condition that we see in everyday traditional veterinary practice are the allergy, skin dogs, ear infection dogs. As I'm sure you see bill in the store, right, Yeah, it's exactly right. And you know, one of the things that is rarely discussed with the veteran you know, in the veterary community to the clients in the base, is that, Okay, if I'm using these skin these skin type problems and these continuous antibiotics and steroids, Okay, what's the long term effects of these under rest of the body?

24:14 Right, Right, That's what I'm saying it's you know, they're not only the drugs themselves, but you can get secondary you know, immune problems. You know, with other organ systems, we get deeper disease, like disease of the bowel, or disease of the liver or the kidneys, or the endocrine system. All of those secondary illnesses downstream are often a reflection of the use of suppressive medications that don't really address the cause of the problem, and our animals are hooked on them in order to you know, for guardians want to see symptomic, quick symptomatic relief. As soon as that dog starts itching or shaking its head, they're immediately putting drops in the ears or systemic drugs that stop the itching. And you know, the animals come in for their quote unquote allergy shot every month and they're just set up in a cycle of addiction. It's the best way I can put it. Yeah, And of course then also leads on the back side to this whole cascade then of secondary and second, third, fourth tier medications to counter what the first drug is doing to the body. And then we just we just see this cascade of debilitation, don't we Absolutely, Yeah, so the steroids and those related drugs, they'll stop the itching, and then you'll get an overgrowth of yeast or bacteria on the skin, and then that leads to a use of strong anti

25:45 fungal agents and even stronger antibiotics, and then you know, nowadays they're you know, the profession is seeing like in the human side of things, tremendous increases in resistant bacteria that don't respond to any allopathic medication because the abuse of these you know, antibacterials and anti you know, and anti inflammatories. So it really is a snowball effect, and our animals are the victims of the abuse of these medications. Even if we go into like the endequine system, you know, putting that animal on thyroid hormone or adrenal gland supplements, you know, actually, you know, the animals become dependent on those drugs, just like they do the the skin medications, and then you know, the home thyroid gland goes to sleep, so it doesn't produce its own hormone, and you know, that's you know, another reflection of the addictive tendencies of these medications, the dependency on the hormones, even insulin. You know, when the bodies. You know, the production of insulin goes down, and then these animals become dependent on on that, you know, during there when they have diabetic and just like in humans, you can actually tremendously help animals or occasionally cure them of their dependency on insulin by appropriate diet and herbal therapies and homeopathy, just like on the human side of things. Yeah, it's exactly right because if if you know he's going to bring up the insulin,

27:18 I'm glad you did, because once you start inducing that artificially, the body says they don't have to make it anymore. It does put that you know, those those you know systems to sleep, and you know, when you want to get off of it, you have to kind of you have to do the wing, which again the animal can't tell you it needs, but we have to kind of wake it up gently and over time so that we're back to natural production of it. Isn't it true? That is totally true. And you know, the endocrine system is a is a great example of what you're saying. And you know, synthetic hormones and powerful drugs that act on the adrenal gland, you know, lead to this you know, dependency and putting these organs to sleep so that the body just can't do it by itself anymore, and then we lose the ability to heal them with our herbs and botanicals and homeopathic remedies. They've become incurable. Yeah. Well, one of the problems too that we have with all these synthetics is the body doesn't know how to handle it, you know, the body if it's a natural product of food product, which is of course my approach to you know, of it is the body's very simple. It's either use it or lose it.

28:33 And you know, if you get too much as something, it comes out. If you don't have, if you need more, you crave more. And that's the way we approach it with the synthetics. The body is going, I don't know what this stuff is, so what are we supposed to do with it? So we start storing it and we store it in fat cells, and of course that leads to some of these obesity issues that we have because we're storing so many toxic chemicals in the body that you know, people are amazed when they finally go through a detox or start eating clean and healthy again and using different herbs, botanicals or you know, homeopathy and things like that to start losing weight or to change their lifestyle. They automatically lose weight. And they're like, I tried every weight loss thing out there and nothing worked. And all I did is that is spurling in in my diet, or you know, I changed my eating habits and I'm no longer buying supermarket meats, you know, I'm buying good, clean meat now.

29:29 And that's another another part of that is when we're looking at the like the antibiotic resistance. You know, so many, so much of the food out there, especially on the meat side, but even on the plant side, the use of antibiotics is so prevalent that that's actually you know, creating this resistance as well, isn't it. Yeah, absolutely, the abuse of the antibiotics. I mean also our eggs, which are know in disastrous shape, you know, the conventional eggs sold in the supermarkets and loaded with toxins and and you know, hormones and residues, and in terms of what those chickens are raised, yeah, I mean, you know, the chickens themselves, but then also think about those eggs as they're being processed you know, they're being they're being cleaned with toxic chemicals and that egg shell is a permiable barrier, and so those toxins are going inside the eggs at the same time.

30:30 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just it's just amazing. And uh, you know these you know, the animals are being exposed directly to all these synthetic hormones and antibiotics, and you know, it's it's really and we are as well in our food supply obviously, like you're talking about, and it leads to all the havoc and the body that you're that you're describing though, yeah, you know, and of course this creates, you know, an overall inflammatory response in the body. And even when you get onto you know, onto homeopathic protocol or pathway or a herbal and a food one, we're still chasing this inflammation all around the body until we can start to eliminate it on a more permanent basis. And that doesn't take overnight, does it.

31:17 No, not at all, especially when animals come in being on these you know, medications for years, you know, months or years, and it takes time for the body to heal itself, to remove the toxins, to regenerate healthy cells and to begin functioning optimally again. And especially you know, as I said, those those skin cases are you know, especially difficult. And I know we uh, you know, people don't want to see their animals suffer at all, And the truth is is that they're suffering more in the long run and shortening their lives is what it's doing. Well, you know, I mean, and I tell you it's try to explain this two clients quite often, you know, well mcdog is kindtantly scratching and itching and nexsworth thing. Uh, he's suffering. Well, every time you get a niche and you scratch it, are you really are we really suffering or is it just a human reflex or a pathological reflex? That's right, it's a reflex. And you know our animals, you know, some of them, they get relief from the scratching, So it's actually a pallative measure that they're doing in it, and that's a warning signal that the body is out of balance, that there's toxicity. As we talk about. Yeah, I mean, you've you know, you've got kids, and you know I've got a child, I've got brothers and sisters. I mean, when we were kids. One thing you wanted to one thing you would beg for, is we scratch my back? Yeah, it was comforting. And you know,

32:47 and here we think it's a disaster when when our dogs and kids are doing so, you know, we have to keep things in a balanced perspective, if you will. That's that's that's probably one of the things that people, you know him an issue is they overreact and think everything that doesn't seem like perfection is a problem. But the body is not perfect, is it. No, No, it's not. And again, you know what's perceived as our animals suffering often isn't it's the human the human you know, emotional bias that often goes into our interpretation that our animals are really suffering. And certainly nobody wants to see their animals itch and itch and itch and itch and itch, you know, where they're keeping themselves up at night or the guardians up at night. But there are so many supportive nurturing, you know, therapies that we can implement for the body to help assist that process rather than hitting the body over the head with a hammer to try and make those things go away right away. And of course that's when we play that chronic healthcare to right, and you know we're under a minute here before the next break again.

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37:23 But who you know we? I asked a question about the foods and the pet food industry, along with our human food industry, is deeply, deeply involved in creating addictions with food additives, palatin's flavors, all of that sort of thing. And there's literally thousands of these that are proprietary to almost every company because they want company loyalty more than anything else. They want you to buy their brand and their brand over and when I illustrate this to people, I mean, stop them thinking about people that like and then you know, I don't like to give names, but people that like McDonald's hate burger cake, people that like cocake pepsi. And yet it's almost an identical product.

38:13 Why is that it's the chemicals that are layered underneath the main foods and like the synthetic sugars, those are all class to narcotics that aspertained that you can buy in seven to eleven or wa wa or you know the supermarket. There's only narcotics. I mean, is this not insane? Right? Right? Absolutely? You know, humans are you know, they're getting us to be addicts to our food. Not that we need any helping addics, but you know, certainly uh an avenue that certainly that you know kills us with you know, addictive substances to get us to keep going back and eating more and more and more and have the chronic health problems as a consequence of the quality of these ingredients. Right. And of course though those those food additives are made by the same chemical companies that are making the drugs, So they feed you an addictive drug in a bad food that they know you're going to get sick on, so that you have to get you know, pharmap involved in treating it, don't they. Yeah. Absolutely, It's one big, one big integrated system feast on illness and and dependency. You know. One of the things, okay, one of the questions that did come in, and there's a couple a couple on food, but it'll address a little later.

39:40 But the first one is how do you break addictions? You know, we have caused our pets. How do you how do you basically stopped the addictive problem? Well? And when what's your approach it? Not from the homeopathy, of course, I've got my own and I do too well. I mean sometimes these animals will you take a drug like pretmozone, which is often used over and over again, you know it's meant and then you know, we're taught and that that needs to be weaned down gradually. So sometimes you have to wean the animals off these you know, medications, if they're used longer term. Again, because their bodies are dependent on you know, these treatments, whether they're hormones or whether they're skin drugs, it often involves a gradual process to you know, allow the animals bodies couperate and recovering and become less dependent on these drugs and medications. And then the other aspect of it is, you know, you just want to be aware of what these medications are before you give them, so you can decline them. I mean, animal guardians need to take their power back and refuse these medications when they're prescribed. You know, we have herbal a prenative to most of these things, and homeopathy serves its purpose in a lot of these situations too, So you know, you just have to say no, you know. Yeah.

41:08 Of course the other thing that you know, the approach that I take, and I know I know you believe in it as well because you've seen the results. As you have to do that lifestyle change first. I mean, there's a reason why the body started breaking down where there's certain you know, medical procedures. You know, things like the you know the thing we can't talk about, or you know, the food additives, the bad food, you know, the poor quality diets that we feed our pets but have fancy commercials things of that nature. So you have to get the animals base going in the right direction, and then of course the homeopathy. The herbals will all start to help rebalance that, and then it's a lot easier step to start weaning them off. We're just taking them off these medications, isn't it.

42:04 Yeah, absolutely, that's definitely the way to go, you know these It takes a little work, but it can be done. You know, just like addictions and people, you know, the tough addictions, just to divert for a second, or you know, like you mentioned about the foods, you know, the synthetic food enhancers and flavor enhancers that you've spoken about in previous shows. I mean, it's difficult to get animals off those things and sometimes onto a species appropriate diet, especially with cats. You know, that's where we have the most difficult time because the the the flavor enhancers and artificial ingredients that have these cats hooked, especially on the dry food, makes it, you know, extremely difficult to get the animals on a healthier plane of nutrition. Yeah. I mean part of the approach I take on NETTED.

42:52 I mean, we really look at it sometimes and over the years we've developed what I sometimes refer to, who is a six week, six week you know, drug withdrawed addiction you know program that we're use in people. The same thing on cats. You know, we have to keep introducing. You know, the first off, you have to do the format change. We have to get away from the drive because we're dehydrating the body all the time. There's not enough moisture. So we've got a secondary issue that's actually going on all the time in that body. But then once we do, once they start, once they take their first mouthful of a wet food, the driver goes away forever. You never put it back down again. You just can't offer it again. And you know, even if you start out with a can't meat or something of that nature, and then you start introducing you know, cooked and or raw, and sometimes we've seen it where an animal will reject, reject, rejected in one day. It's like you've flipped on a switch and they're suddenly there and they're happy and healthy and you know, I means like they won't even look at the dry food again, right, And you know, but you have to be patient and you can't can't worry. I tell people, if you put down and especially with dogscause, dogs of course are more of an opportunistic carnivore or scavenger. If you're taking you're starting on a raw diet, and you put the food down on the floor and a dog walks up to it and smells it and turns around and

44:22 walks away as they pick it up, put it in a refrigerator, don't even look at the animal, don't acknowledge that there's a problem there, and just walk away. And it kicks in the primal part of their body that oh my god, I just lost my kill. And dogs usually won't miss more than three meals. You know, you came back a couple hours later, you put it back down. If they do the same thing, you just do the same thing. And of course the other part of that with the with the diet is a rotation because they do need different things and people think that, oh, well, they didn't like that, you know, that product, or that that meat to that, you know, but it's not about liking. It's about what their body needed on that day. And when you start that rotation, now the body knows it's always gonna get it because they hunt different areas for different foods based on what their what their basic needs are, what their cravings are. That's what cravings are, is a basic needs. So you know, it's not always it's tougher with those toy breeds, you know, those are the ones. Oh you often have the number of their guardians. And you know, talking about train I always refer to that every session with your pet is a training session. Either you're training them or they're training you. And usually they're training you. You know, you know, the little toy breed didn't eat breakfast, so you're sitting in the middle of the floor trying to hand freet it. They get an upset stomach, but they're eating something because they're trying to satisfy your ego and they're making themselves sicker, right, It's it's kind of crazy anyway that we'll eat.

46:00 Yes, they always do, okay, a couple of a couple of a little okay, so what if my boat pushes away with bowl, she's done, she's saving it for later. She's not hungry. It's that simple, you know. Uh, they don't eat on a schedule like we do. But somebody wanted to know, uh, you know, where can they get meat? If if not, you know, I guess the referrals to our store. But you know, and what how would we buy meat and stuff like that? Well, for the most part at uh Fia Patelih when I'm sourcing out food, I try to get as close to the farm level.

46:43 And of course a lot of our food is at the farm level, so we knew, we know how it's being raised. You have to just get down as close to the grower as you can, and you know, look at the practices if you're going to you know, even like some of these upper class grocery stores, and you see that the meat is really the beef especially is really really red. That means it's been sprayed with red food food die because that's not the natural color, and they use different they use different lighting to enhance the colors and things like that. So you have to start to learn about the marketing techniques that you know the stores are using that sort of thing, and try to know your sources as much as possible.

47:28 You know, we often change farms because a farm practice will change from time to time. Anyway, Yet I know we're just about it at the break here or at the end of the show, and another hour went by really really fast. Doctor Dim tell people what you can do for them and how they can reach you. Well. I offer nutritional therapies, homeopathy, and many herbal therapies, many of which come from your great store, and I work with people nationwide. I work with them locally here in the Palm Beach County area, and they can get a hold of me on my website which is doctordim dot com. That's d O C T O R D y M dot com and that has my email information, my contact number. And just to remind the audience again that if they'd like to attend a free every three week lecture, I give it Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach. They're more than welcome to join. They just have to email me and I'll give them more information on that. That sounds great, And of course you know my information is all over the website here. They can reach me through any of their sponsors. And again, another great show, Doctor Dim. We'll be back hopefully next week. Good night, everybody, Good night. How healthy is your pet? Does your pet suffer from your infections, scratching and

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