Does Your Pet Need "Fixing?" Truth About Spay and Neuter.

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treatment program. And then now it's
time for Pet Health Cafe, where your

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Pet has a Voice. And here's
your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru,

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and welcome to the Pet Health Cafe
to show where your pet has a

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voice. This is Bill the Pet
Health Guru. Along was my special guest

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host, doctor Michael Dim How are
we doing, Doctor, I'm doing well.

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Bill. How's it going there this
week? It's been a rough week,

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I'll tell you. And it's it's
been one of those things with all

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the unexpected things that I could ever
imagine happening. But you know, you

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just work through it. We just
take it one day at a time,

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one foot in front of the other. You know, hopefully we got a

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good belief system, and you know, we have to believe that what we're

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doing is right. Yep, I
sure do. Some days it's a little

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bit more challenging than others, unfortunately, Okay, you know tonight, I

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mean it's one of these topics that
I know we've talked about a lot in

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the past. We talked about actually
it probably pops into many of our other

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topics because it has such impact on
the health and welfare of our paths,

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both dogs and cats. And I
don't think people realize the impact that what

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is now an accepted, you know, just normal procedure has on the longevity

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and the overall health of your pets. And of course I'm talking about spay

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and neuter, right. You know, the first thing I wanted to bring

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up is, you know, we
don't talk about cash writing male dogs anymore

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because that sounds barbaric, doesn't it. Yeah, that's true. They don't

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use that term as much. No, And of course the fact of the

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matter is is you know they used
the term fixing, right, was the

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amal broken? The will have a
defect? Yeah, yeah, it's very

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true. Bill, good play on
words. So I'm not really a good

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play on words. The animal it's
actually unfixed, right if you look at

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it that way. Exactly, we're
purposely breaking it. We're breaking And I

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know I want to get into some
of the physiology and that sort of thing

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as we move along. But when
you start removing body parts. Are there

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any extra parts in the body that
you know of and you're aware of and

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your you know, your years of
medical training and medical treatments and things of

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that nature. Are there any what
though, I didn't understand extra extra parts

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that we can just do without.
No, not at all. I mean,

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especially when you remove the sex hormones, you actually take away you know,

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you actually affect the whole body,
as we'll talk about, so you

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know, it's not just lessening of
the hormones. This the you know,

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the estrogen and the testosterone. It's
the effect globally on the body. Yeah,

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and day we already got a good
question. Is there any ways safe

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ways to so called fix but the
question really is to prevent unexpected or accidental

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breedings? Yeah, there are,
Yeah, that's actually probably the wave of

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the future is overre sparing space because
of the even the conventional vet community acknowledges

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now the health benefits of keeping the
sex hormones at least you know, the

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first few years of life. But
obviously I believe in keeping them throughout life.

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So you know, there is an
option of overre sparing space where they

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just remove the uterus. In fact, I think they're teaching veterinarians and veninary

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school and young veterinarians more about that, you know nowadays, and I think

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in the future that'll be more common. And of course then you have the

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option of the male dog is doing
a vasectomy, which is keeping the testees

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and then just you know, of
course sterilization by tying off the ducts of

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the vast difference and right limit and
you know, but again maintaining the sextums.

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Yeah, but what about tubal ligation. I mean, we were we

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don't have to actually remove the uters
that it in whole. Wouldn't that be

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even a safer process? Obviously,
you the surgery is going to be minimal,

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the surgical openings are minimal. In
fact, with modern technology, I

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think that you know, with both
the vastectomy and with the tubule, basically

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you can do a wound repair with
a little bit of super glue, can't

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you, or next spand whatever they
call it on the veterinary side, right

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right, No, absolutely. The
only thing about tubule ligation is if you

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keep the uterus in, you end
up with they'll tell you the allopathic community,

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you'll end up with a risk of
of of getting uterine infections or pyometra,

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So that's why they remove the uterus. That's another reason to prevent that.

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Not that I'm worried about that.
In a holistic venory setting, I

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obviously tell people that, you know, animals that are healthy and raised more

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chemical free and drug and pesticide and
vaccine free, those animals are much less

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likely to get uterine infections. But
I think the tubal ligation though, where

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they maintain the uterus, I don't
think that'll go over too well with the

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community. You know. I realize
there's a lot less money to be made

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if you're doing it the right way. But in nature, I mean even

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with older animals, older female animals, essentially, it's kind of a part

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of the process, isn't it.
As they age, they it reduces down

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their ability they live normal lives without
getting pregnant anymore. Without that ability,

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the body kind of protects itself,
doesn't it. Yeah, very true.

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You know, with a with a
healthy immune system too, you're not going

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to get infections like PyME true,
would you? Absolutely? Not? Sure?

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Yeah, that's what I said.
I try to maintain the health of

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the animal, and you know,
as best as we can with the ways

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we talk about on the show every
week. But again, as they age,

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it becomes less less common. For
sure, as you're saying, because

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you know they're they're cycling as much
less just like an older person. Sure,

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I kind of got a glance at
that last question. I hope we

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can get it back up here.
Yeah. I knew someone years ago that

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had had their male dogs testicles injected
with some medication too new to the dog.

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How safe is that? I remember
years and years and years ago reading

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something basically, it's a chemical castration, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah,

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it fell out of vogue from what
I remember. I think there were complications

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with it. It didn't always it
wasn't always effective. You could get secondary

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you know, infections and and uh, you know, problems from the injection.

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So I think it fell out of
vogue for those reasons. Well,

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basically in order to kill that reproductive
sperm production. Uh, you're basically poisoning

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the testicle, aren't you. Yeah, you're rejecting a foreign chemical that you

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know, to see are you going
to stay in the testicle? Yeah?

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I was just gonna say, I
mean, if they think it just stays

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in the testicle, but you know, it's you're going to have you know,

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absorption through the elymphatics and the blood
vessels, and I don't know how

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they would it would stay locally just
in the testicles. So but I think

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again, because of the complications,
and I don't think it was as effective,

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it fell out of vogue. Yeah, probably a good thing that it

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did. Yeah, and then now
they have, you know, a procedure

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where they newted the animal and they
put neuticles or whatever they call them,

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and oh yeah in the testes just
so that the animal looks like it is

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intact, just from a cosmetic perspective. I don't know. That's also wild.

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Well that's kind of fallen out of
vogue too, because people that did

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that basically were being attacked that you
know you didn't do it, because I

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can still see them, and you
know, now you're out there trying to

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explain that no, those are fake
ones, not real ones, and you

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got a whole different argument going on
at that point in time. And you

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know, people in society today are
looking for anything that they can fight about

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down't they. Yeah, no,
it's very true. So but you know,

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that idea of injecting or putting,
you know, testicles back into the

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neuticles whatever they were called to me. It's just you know, foreign bodies.

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They you know, there's all sorts
of complications. And again you have

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a foreign substance in the body,
just like a microchip is you know,

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yeah, that's you know, how
safe is the microchip? And you know

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it changes the energy of the body, It changes the the whole you know,

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energetic system of the body when you
put things in the body that don't

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belong there, and of course you
affect the energy of the body when you

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take things out that should be there. So it works both ways, I

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know. I mean we're seeing we're
seeing a you know, a lot of

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a lot more complications they even with
on the human side, with breasting plants

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the same way a foreign body,
and of course you know that's a little

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bit different. Even that's even more
different because you can have leakages and things

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of that nature, where basically they
were putting in the equivalent of marbles and

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any poor male dogs. Right.
So again another comment, you know,

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on microchipping. I have seen too
many cases and I'm sure that you have

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too, and I'd like you to
expound on it a little bit more of

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injection site tar comas where microchips have
been implanted. The problem with the migrating

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throughout the body the fact that you
cannot remove them because you normally can't even

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find them, can you. Well, I mean surgeons can find them anywhere.

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I mean they can find a way
to find them. But they do

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migrate, as you said, and
they are foreign material that's put into the

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body that don't belong there. And
yeah, there's been you know, they

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can cause chronic low level inflammation and
eventually you know, cancer at the site,

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just like we found out with certain
vaccines and cats because you know,

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cancers at the side of the vaccine, fibrosar comas. You can see the

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same kind of thing from the foreign
material of an implant, of a microchip

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implant, So the microchip too.
Don't you have the problem with ems and

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other electronics and things of that nature
of basically energy, Yeah, yeah,

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absolutely, the energy Again, you're
injecting something that has a frequency in it,

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that emits you know, a frequency, and it's just again you're altering

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the flow of energy along the meridians. You're altering the life force. However

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you look at it, whether it's
from a homeopathic perspective or a Chinese medical

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perspective. So yeah, I mean, you know, these questions are really

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really great, and I want to
thank everybody that's chiming in and it's Washington

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night. I mean, I didn't
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know, the thing is is I
made comment a couple of weeks ago while

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you were on your sabbatical that we
weren't getting a lot of comments in the

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comment section on some of the programs
with some of the guests that I had,

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and that sort of thing. And
I made the comment, which are

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our engineer, producer commented on as
well as nobody wants to type when I'm

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talking because you never know what's going
to come out of my mouth. Yeah,

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but there's a certain amount of truth
of that because I can. I

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mean, you're you know. I
mean, I've done it to you many

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times. We start talking about something
and all of a sudden there's a left

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hand turn with no signal. Yeah, you tell it like it is and

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you shoot from the head, that's
for sure. I do. And it's

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you know. Of course it's funny
too, because you know, I don't

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use a script, and so it's
all coming from here. It's coming from

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the heart. And of course you
know, you and I both when when

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we're on we're talking, many of
the things that we discuss are things of

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actual caseload that we have to see
and the questions that we get every single

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day. Okay, there's a question
for you, how can you please discuss

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how as economy works on a dog
as well as any issues. Well,

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they make an incision, I don't. I'm not familiar with too many places

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that perform it. I mean,
again, I know it's an increasing likelihood

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that in the future we'll see more
of that, but it's Basically, an

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incision is made over the one of
the ends of the testicle where what's called

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the vast deference, which is the
tube that leads out of the testicle,

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you know, that allows you know, that amidst the sperm, amidst the

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sperm and the seminal juices, and
it's tied off. They basically just put

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a you know, put a suture
around it too, you know, to

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cause the sperm not to be able
to travel outside the testicles running into a

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brick wall into a brick wall.
But I've seen some complications with that,

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or I've heard of some complications with
that over the years. I heard,

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you know, where it didn't work
and the animal was able to impregnate another

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animal. But the idea is to, like I said, what it's called

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tie off the vast difference, which
is again the tube that leads out of

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the testicle into the that allows the
animal to uh to emit you know,

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sperm well, and I know that's
one of the techniques they use it,

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but I believe they were also using
where they actually just take a small segment,

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you know, a millimeter or two
of the vast efference out and of

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course it will heal itself over.
So now you've got the natural blockage without

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it being able to be transferred very
easily unless there happens to be incomplete healing,

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right right. Yeah, that's a
delicate surgery obviously, but yeah,

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that's the idea behind it, you
know, preserving the preserving the testes.

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Yeah, yeah, and of course
you know, and you mentioned it a

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little bit in the very beginning.
Of course, obviously the six hormones are

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greatly, greatly affected, but it's
but the end. But it's a part

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of the endocrine system it's self,
and it has to connect, if you

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will, with all the other organs
that are in that endocrine system and work

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as a team, not as individual
components, which is one of the things

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that you and I have discussed a
lot in specialty medicines and of course in

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when we're you know, allopathic medicine
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not looking at the body as a
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affect the other organs in the endocrine
system. Well, I know, we're

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up on a break, but there's
a lot of diseases that occur and have

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been shown to be significantly increased in
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you know, thyroid problems are increased
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loss of the sex hormones. I've
seen animals develop piometris I'm sorry, cushions

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disease as a result, which is
an overact of adrenal gland or due to

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a pituitary tumor where the adrenal glands
produce too much cortisol. I've seen dogs

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that are against spade that end up
developing that quite afterwards. So you get

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diseases in other endocrine systems. I've
seen, and it's been written that diabetes

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is significantly increased in neutered or spade
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directly related to the integrative function and
how they work together. Of all the

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different you know, all the different
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each other. And so to think
that you remove one part of it you're

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not going to affect the whole thing
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I think one of the things that
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obviously the destruction of the body,
but that is sold as a method

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for changing behavior males, male dogs
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they you know, the training problems
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But that's not a testosterone challenge.
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the fact that we've altered the body
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Obviously, with throwing off hormones,
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to our mental and the mental capacities
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go either way in many cases that
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get even worse, they can get
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And we're back here in the Pet
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called fixing an unbroken animals. So
with that we were talking about talk,

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you're talking about the behaviors. Yes, the incidents of various types of aggression

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like fear based aggression and various anxieties
have the opposite. They actually increase in

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the surgically altered animals and the spade
and neutered animals. So it's not just

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remove hormones and aggression goes away,
or you know, certainly certain male typical

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behaviors will go away, like inner
mail aggression. You know where they're you

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know, that can be you know, right, one effect of neutering,

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that's you know obviously, but the
other types of aggression, like I said,

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fear based aggression, various anxieties are
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increased when their spade or when looked
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one of the things that they thought
about as we were wrapping up there that

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when you when you start altering the
endeprine system, of course that involves all

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the different organs that are involved there. And of course we talk a lot

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about nutrition and that sort of thing. Well, if the system is out

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of balance, and then we throw
in feeding a species inappropriate diet like you

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know, uh, highly processed foods
and stuff like that, the body can't

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produce the enzymes to even digest that
food. And that's going to have a

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major impact on aggression and behavior because
you know, if I look at it,

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there's a bullet caibble sitting on the
floor that they can't digest, and

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I drop a burger on the floor
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Do you think we might have a
little bit of an issue. Yeah,

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exactly. I mean, so it's
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But the digestive system, you know
that which is involves the pancreas and the

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adrenal gland, as you mentioned,
liver and kidney. You know, the

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liver, being such a large organ, can do a lot more tasks and

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doesn't seem to be implicated or challenged
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Is that true? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, so you know,

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and then you look at it,
they say, like at the pancreas or

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pituitary or even the adrenal gland.
These are tiny, tiny organs that have

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a lot of blood flow through them
and need good nutrition all the time just

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to stay healthy. You know,
a little one transporting all these enzyme and

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hormones and you know everything else.
It's the body is I mean, I've

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heard numbers that there's like a trillion
different biochemical reactions going on in a human

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body at any given second. Right
it's you know, so realize this little

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thing that they say is not important
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I remember when I got involved in
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seventies. The Center for Veterinary Medicine
at the FT in their publication said that

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spay and neuter cuts the lifespan of
an animal by up to fifty percent.

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And when I look back in the
fifties sixties, dogs were living twenty years

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or more, cats were living thirty
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in your continuous education that a dog
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Yeah exactly. I mean there's all
the you know you bring up, I

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mean, which we didn't get into
yet, but you know all the different

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cancers that are now acknowledged to be
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For example, you know tumors of
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and giant breed dogs. I mean, I wouldn't new to or a spay

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of those guys, because you know, one of the top cancers they get

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is bone cancer. And then there
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one. Actually, I was taught
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and that's still today say erroneously that
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you'll decrease the chance of prostate cancer. And actually, I'd never seen prostate

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cancer in a non neutered male in
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cancer is basically occurring in the neutered
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there are other cancers. There's a
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tumor of the blood vessels. And
that's another one that's again significantly increased.

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other breed that's you know, a
large breed that's prone to amanngio sarcoma,

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again, you got to think long
and hard before you spay or neutered those

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animals. German shepherds, you know, certain breeds that come to mind,

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any breed, but you know certain
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cancer. So even lymphoma in some
cases has been shown to been known

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to be increased. And lymphoma is
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So you know, the idea that
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there are you know, with female
dogs, they're obviously the other argument is

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that they get less breast cancer,
less memory tumors early spay or new to

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them, and that there is some
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spade really young you know, there
there's less hormonal influence on the memory tissue.

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why dogs you know don't get memory
cancer. I mean memory cancer, the

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incidence of it is increased by so
many variables other than the hormones. It's

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you know, like you say,
diet, vaccinations, pesticides, environmental toxins,

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all those play a role in you
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So I think they play more of
a role than just simply the sex hormones.

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time I don't see malignant breast cancer
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at least sixty to sixty five percent
of them. So again using that as

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an excuse why you want to spay
a female dog, it just doesn't go

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over with me. Yeah. Well, I mean the other thing is too,

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when we're looking at these, especially
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and you know, and more so
in puppies and kittens, the assault on

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their body, you know, when
they go into when they're you know,

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they're dropped off or picked up or
whatever it happens to be. You know,

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the immediate barrage of multiple vaccines,
wormings, warming procedures, so called

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preventative drugs. Then we put them
under anestege, we give them and you

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know, pre anesthesia drugs, and
then anesthesia, then the surgery itself,

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and post surgical painkillers and and anti
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very short compressed amount of time.
The amount of recovery that the body has

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to try to go through. And
of course immediately after surgery they're not going

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to be eating or drinking the way
they should, so we're not getting nutrition

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to basically regrowth cells that have been
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How does the body recover normally?
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very difficult with that barrage. It's
a tremendous amount of insult, insult on

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the body itself. And the fact
of the matter is that these animals do

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survive and live is a testament to
the creature itself, how magnificent the body

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he is to be able to adapt. Yeah. Yeah, And then you

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think of the animals that are neutered
spade that are vaccinated at the same time,

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that's another I imagine them survived.
They you know, they survive that,

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but they're damaged, you know,
yeah, on a on a deep

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level, both dynamically or energetically and
of course biochemically physically well, you know,

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and the interesting part is it take
this a little bit further. Of

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course, usually they get those vaccines
and everything upon intake, and then we're

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going to spand neuter them right away. And of course with the vaccine schedules

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on these animals, they're being vaccinated
one another two weeks after that. Yeah,

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you know, it's it's just one
insult insult after another. And yeah,

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and it's all looked down in the
quote unquote you know, for the

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health of the animal. Where again
it's the only benefit of it, as

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I talk about, is you know, the in the shelter rescue situation,

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they're talking about herd health control.
In other words, there are so many

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unwanted animals and neglected animals and animals
on the street. So that's the you

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know, the battle cry for why
you know you want to neuter or a

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spay your animals. So but that's
looking at it from what we call a

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herd health perspective, Bill, and
when clients adopt an animal and individual animal,

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we want to look at the health
of that individual animal from a holistic

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perspective, and so the herd health
mentality goes out the window when you're trying

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to you know, incorporate you know, holistic health concepts with individual clients that

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come to you and just want the
best for their animal. They don't want

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to hear all the gibberish. But
you know, so the herd health mentality

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of doing all those things spang and
neutering them, vaccinating them at the same

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time, giving them wormers and drugs, you know, while they're in these

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stressful situations, all that does and
then people come along and adopt those animals,

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and all that does is is set
up the grounds for chronic disease to

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take hold. Well. The other
part of that too is, and I

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know, working with rescues for over
fifty years, one of the issues that

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we sometimes listen to with the people
that are doing this is we can't trust

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owners to do the right thing.
My question to them is always why are

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you not engaged in educational programs that
will help you know, pet owners,

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pet parents learn more about it.
And I say the same thing to the

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veterinary community. Where is the education
on the true education on animal health,

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which we know veterinarians are not really
taught animal health, which is why there's

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all these problems with diet and you
know, secondary issues, health issues that

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are caused by many and many of
the of the drugs and procedures that they

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are done. But shouldn't that you
know, When I first started these podcasts

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a long time ago, I was
at an event and I interviewed probably eight

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different rescue groups at this event,
and at the end of it, I

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finally got I got really really frustrated, and I says, isn't the job

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of a rescue really to take an
animal from a bad place, help help

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them recover, and then move them
to a better place, and educate an

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owner as to how they can make
this animal's life better. And I mean,

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I got blasted like you would not
believe, you know, for bringing

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up that educational perspective. And I
think that's one of the things that you

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and I try to do with this
podcast and in our practice. We're gonna

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petthealth cafe to show where your Pet's
Voice. This is build a Pet Health

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Guru along with doctor Michael dim my
special guest host. You know, looking

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at that educational part of it,
I mean I saw a statistic. It's

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been a number of years ago,
but somewhere between sixty and seventy percent of

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households in the United States have one
or more pets over you know, over

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their lifespan. And yet for the
most part, pet care, animal health,

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even health human health is really not
taught in our educational system. And

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I find that to be a sad
fact, a really a failure in in

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that system. And I want to
throw out a question that you know,

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you you know, I know the
veterinary community thinks it's horrible, But would

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you knowingly choose a procedure or a
treatment plan if you knew that it was

428
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going to be life altering in a
negative way? Oh? Not at all.

429
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Yeah, But yet this is what
exactly is happening, isn't it?

430
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It sure is? And you know, you have to keep in mind there's

431
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an economic incentive obviously, for these
are procedures that have been the bread and

432
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butter of mentional vet practice for many
decades. So there is an economic role

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in decision making, which shouldn't be
and you know it's it's uh, it's

434
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uh. Yeah again, my colleagues, I think it's just brainwashing that occurs

435
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at the vet school level. But
at least with the Spain neuter idea,

436
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like I said, they're at least
coming around to recognizing because the studies are

437
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all there. As we're talking about
these different conditions that are increased, the

438
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studies are there that show that,
you know, keeping the sex hormones has

439
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wonderful benefits. So you know,
Mike, you know there it's changing,

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Bill, like I said, for
in terms of that that aspect of it,

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but the rest of it, like
you said, when there's no education

442
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of the guardian about how to keep
animals healthy because it's all about you know,

443
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putting toxins and poisons into the animal
and they're thinking that that's that's good

444
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health and obviously we both know that
that's not. So that's their idea of

445
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:22.000
preventative medicine, not feeding good food. And yeah, that was the next

446
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.440
thing I was going to I was
going to bring up, is okay all

447
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these adopted animals that are out there
and all these animals that the owners have

448
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:35.320
been persuaded to do these procedures.
Uh, there's obviously a number of ways

449
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that you and I have that can
help strengthen the body, help it recover

450
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at least to a certain degree.
And you know, of course we do

451
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it a lot through nutrition, species
appropriate diets which are easy to easier to

452
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digest. You know, as I
brought up to the illustration that when the

453
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endocrine system is damaged, it's not
as easy for them to who digest food.

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The digestive enzymes are thrown off.
The extra stress and anxiety with a

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bad food because especially if you've got
a you know, more of a pack

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or a pride type situation with multiple
animals, there's a lot more competition for

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what little nutrition is available that can
figure a lot of these stress things.

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And of course we can also use
various homeopathic remedies which if you know,

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if you will, you maybe you've
got a couple that you can, you

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know, suggest at the time for
what bill homeopathic remedies that would help the

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body heal the energy of the body
that's been spay or neutered. Well,

462
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I mean there are some remedies you
know, for example and females that often

463
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come up when you alter the sex
hormones and certain symptoms will come up,

464
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and that usually guides the homeopath But
there are certain remedies like CPA, S

465
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E, p I A, and
pulsatilla which often come in when sex hormones

466
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are removed in the female. In
the male dog probably you know, there's

467
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a myriad of different homeopathics that might
apply, again based upon the individual symptom

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right animal and how they're affected.
But you know, it's it's definitely a

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challenge because you'd throw off the body
in so many in so many ways,

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and each animal is going to manifest
that imbalance differently, so those animals would

471
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get different homeopathic treatments based upon those
changes. But you know, those are

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a few of the remedies that I
have in mind, mainly in the in

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the female. They've been showing to
help with female typical problems as a result

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of spaying and neutering. Right.
Yeah. Now on the on the other

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side of it, of course,
you know we do lots through nutrition.

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Of course, that's just building up
a strong immune system, but also know

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herbally, there's a lot of different
herbs and botanicals that can help help the

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body restore at least some of this
hormonal balance. They happen to have a

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jar that I've been using on my
own animal that's a spate female obviously,

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and that happens to be the autoimmune
because it doesn't because that traders on immune

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disease, doesn't. It absolutely does
auto immune diseases or the number one class

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of types of the immune media disease
is the number one chronic illness, that

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chronic disease tendencies that we see in
our animals, next to cancer too.

484
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Yeah, and of course we also, you know, at in the bio

485
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complete line, we also do uh, you know, thyroid blends and hormone

486
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.800
balancing blends for both males and females
because certain certain herbs have a tendency to

487
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:01.119
like Maka is very very strong in
helping female produced that you know, uh

488
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.119
that estrogen and epimidium and the mail
dogs with sasserone, and of course it's

489
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it's a blend of all all the
sex hormones, not just one or the

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other. So there's a lot,
you know, we have a lot of

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a lot of tools, a lot
more tools in our toolbox, and we

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00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.239
had twenty years ago, thirty years
ago, of course, our knowledges increase

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a lot, and I know we're
getting closer on time here. Maybe we

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can get a couple more of the
questions that came in up and we can

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00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.159
start to answer some of them individually. I mean, trying to watch them

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00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.480
all at at while we're talking is
sometimes stuff too. So is there a

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00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:45.000
way to test for hormone balance and
pets? You know what test would that

498
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.159
be? I mean, we have
ways of checking the thyroid in different ways.

499
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.480
There's ways of you know, there's
adrenal hormone panels that you can check

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00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:59.000
all those hormones, but you know, we vetinarians don't typically we don't typically

501
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.280
measure those. You can measure estrogen
to stosterone, but it's not routinely done

502
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:08.159
in the in the in the clinical
situation, unless an animal has a LOTT,

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00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.119
you know, suspected to have low
thyroid or a cat suspected to have

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00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.000
high thyroid, then hormone levels are
measured, or if they have suspected that

505
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.480
cushions disease, then they look at
the adrenals, the adrenal hormones. But

506
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.599
you know, there's complete adrenal panels
that include the sex hormones. But in

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00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:30.800
general they're they're targeted for when animals
are sick rather than wellness. Yeah,

508
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.480
obviously, the one thing I wanted
to mention Bill about the I know we're

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in the end. One of the
things about is that, you know,

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the structure, the appearance of an
intact animal is so much healthier than a

511
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.559
you know, you affect those bones
in such ways, and you know,

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00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.280
you see an intact male dog and
it's just their structure is the way it's

513
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.760
supposed to be, and a breed, you know, as the breed was

514
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:59.559
designed to be. And you know
there's diseases or the bones in the joints.

515
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:05.000
We didn't really quickly mentioned acl tears
or crushit ligament issues which are epidemic,

516
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.480
and especially large breed dogs. Again, the sex hormones. Removing them

517
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:14.079
increases that disease tremendously. So the
bones are a big reason why we need

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00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.880
to keep those hormones. Yeah,
Okay, this this is one that keeps

519
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:28.880
coming up to the client. Has
he had a terrible time. It's a

520
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.480
challenge, I mean, because there's
so out of balance. Well, I

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00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.599
mean cats that are female, that
are indoors, that are you know,

522
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.920
going through heat cycles. That's and
they're you know, marking or spraying or

523
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.880
you know, it's a normal physiological
parameter. I mean, we have to

524
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:51.159
keep in mind when we domesticate these
animals, especially cats, they're indoors.

525
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.800
They're using litter boxes, which they're
not you know, evolved not to really

526
00:45:54.840 --> 00:46:00.199
do. They're used to being outside
and can move from one terror to sorry

527
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.199
to another. So when we have
these indoor animals and we keep their sex

528
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.559
hormones and cats I'm talking about,
you increase the likelihood of behavioral issues,

529
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.039
you know, and it's hard to
not it's hard to keep the sex hormones

530
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.519
and a female cat I without getting
some of these clinical issues. I don't

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00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.639
have an answer, Bill, Maybe
you do, because it's you know,

532
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.639
it's a normal. A lot of
these symptoms are normal physical you know,

533
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:28.039
repetitive heat cycles are going to occur, right yeah. I mean it's just

534
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:32.480
you know, we and up and
in Spain won't necessarily stop that. I

535
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:39.199
mean I get reports all the time
that you know, spaded animals still have

536
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:49.039
basically everything from you know, heat
related type behaviors to even false pregnancies.

537
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:55.760
Right yeah, Okay, Now okay, then are intext well socialized and haven't

538
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:01.079
tried to impregnant any bitches when it's
ten years old, the others three years.

539
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.119
It will be three years and two
months. Yeah, that's normal because

540
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:10.559
in nature, they're not looking to
breed every minute. You know, dogs

541
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.960
would normally come into heat maybe once
a year, once or twice a year.

542
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.199
Same thing with cats, and of
course big portion of them. I

543
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.199
know, we're done in the last
two minutes here, But like in cats,

544
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.800
when you when they find you know, strays, kittens, and they

545
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.519
pull those babies, mom thinks that
they're gone. Her natural instinct is to

546
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.639
come right back into heat and repopulate. But if they were nursing for the

547
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.480
four to six months that they really
should be, Mom's not coming in the

548
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.119
eat, right, And that's another
thing that's part of it. That's that's

549
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.039
uh, you know different. Okay, we've got a minute left here,

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doctor Dim. How can people reach
you? They can go to my website

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which is doctordim dot com d O
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com that has all my contact information
email and I check email, you know

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regularly. Okay, that's great,
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thank you for coming on. Well
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