April 9, 2026

Choosing the Best Caregiver for Your Pets

Choosing the Best Caregiver for Your Pets
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Season 18

Leaving your pets in someone elses care is stressful for pet parents and the pets themself. With the help of Michele we discuss many options and solutions to this stressful situation. We want to give the pathway to a more pelaxed decission.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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information only. Content presented on any show by any host

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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.

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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,

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or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,

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where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,

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Bill the Pet Health Guru.

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And welcome to Pet Health Cafe to show where your

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pet has a voice. This is Bill at Health Guru.

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As was another exciting show tonight for you and you know,

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as always, we try to put these things together and

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do the best we can depending on what's going on today. Again,

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at this moment in time, I want you to share

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this podcast with as many people as you can because

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we need to get this word out. It's very very

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important as the information is actually relates to your true

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health and all of that as well. We want our

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animals and we want our pet parents to be fantastically housewives.

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I've got a guest tonight. Again, like I said, share this,

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subscribe like and chat room's open so you can ask

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your questions and make your comments and you know we'll

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try to better about it. A little bit. And with

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that being said, I want to bring out my special guests,

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Mishell Grev. She is a health coach, extraorded there and

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an educator, and you know, we have some challenges we'll

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coming into the basically the travel vacation season. Okay, so

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I guess that's yours, not mine. For change, that's.

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Your dog barking. My dog's responding. Good evening, everybody, Thank

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you for having me kill Okay.

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No, that's yours. I'm ok right now, she's not parking anyway.

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But we're coming into the travel season. And one of

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the things that you and I discussed in a different

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format was how do we pick our pet care providers,

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whether it's a veterinarian, whether it's a dog sitter, a groomer,

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you know, somebody that comes into your home, a pet hotel,

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even a daycare, all of that stuff. It's this challenge,

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isn't it, Michelle, to give your dog basically as somebody else,

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your cat as somebody else.

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I am probably one of the biggest pet lovers you

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know on your podcast and as far as your audience.

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Let me tell you, Bill, I haven't taken a vacation

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in so many years because I find it heart wrenching

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to leave my pets with anybody. And this year, as

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an educator, I have the summer off, so I said,

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well why not. You know, it's been many years since

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I've taken an actual vacation. My dog is trying to

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get up on the chair. So if you see me moving,

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that's what she's trying to do if she wants to

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be part of the podcast. So I'm going to get

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her on the chair so she can come on.

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That that must be. That must be, as Charlotte, Charlotte.

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She thinks she's part of the podcast. She wants to

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be on. So, as I was saying, everyone, it's very

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hard to leave my pets. I cannot even fathom the idea.

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But I have decided I'm going to take a week

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vacation and I have found somebody, but it hasn't been easy.

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I have a lovely neighbor. He's a senior. And you know,

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one thing we don't think about is our seniors out there. Everybody.

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They are lonely, you know, and if they're in good

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health and they're capable of handling things, and you've seen

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them interact with your pets, seniors can be a really

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really good choice. Now, do they have to walk the dogs?

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Of course you want them to, but if they're not

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able to. We understand that I have a yard, so

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I'm okay with that. My dog wants to be on

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so I have.

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If I'm not mistaken, you've got several larger sized dogs.

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Help me out.

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Okay, we've frozen up here. Okay, so anyway we have.

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We have to realize when it comes to seniors that

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some of them, you know, if you've got bigger dogs,

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that can be a challenge, Michelle.

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Bigger dogs, even little dogs can be a challenge. Bill,

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I mean, and my dogs are so glued to my

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you know, my hip. They want to sleep with me.

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I'm not expecting anyone to come in my home and

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do what I do obviously, but yes, it's a it's

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a major challenge, and you have to be able to

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meet that person who's willing to meet you. You know,

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at least three quarters of the way I have gone

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through different you know, aspects, different different venues, as far

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as finding places. I've even gone to boarding places. And

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the things that they say to me are you know,

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we can't have the dogs together.

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It seems like we're here's some audio problems here. But yeah,

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I understand. It's like, you know, there's so many rules

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and regulations when it comes to boarding. You know, we

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can't put them together. You know, if you, oh my god,

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Heaven forbid, you should be feeding a raw diet or

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a cook diet or a special diet. You know, there's

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all these restrictions, and then you have to deal with

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also on the backside, well is your pet medically compliance

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and you know, with so called injections and you know,

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parasite control and all of that sort of thing. It's like,

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wait a minute, that's not a settled science, So why

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are you putting that on me? And the usual answer,

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you will get it at a boarding facility or even

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a veterinary facility that does boarding well. Our insurance, our insurance,

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and that's number one BS because there is no insurance

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for any of that stuff except that the pet insurance

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that you have that provides it. There's no liability because

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there's no culpability. There's no way of determining. Let's say

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you're Doug got a serious disease while you were gone.

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There's no way of testing where the parasites came from

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or when so.

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And they're not responsible. You know, you sign all these

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papers and they're not responsible for any.

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Yeah, so they're not responsible. Why do they care.

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It's the law, the law, they have to do it,

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they have to do It's not.

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The law, that's the whole thing. It's not law, it's regulation.

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Is that law.

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It's not the law, no.

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Law, No, it's it's a fear factor that is thrown

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into that whole industry because the veterinary industry is trying

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to control every phase of your pet's life. And you

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know that if a dog's lifespan went from thirty years

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to eight years under veterinary care, do you trust them?

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Obviously? I don't. That's why I'm looking elsewhere.

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I know. It's one of the things that you and

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I all the time.

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If you can you hear me.

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Yes.

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I went on to rover. It's a site where you

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look for trusted at care people. And I saw one

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of my educator friends on there and I saw her

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the next day at work, not where I'm teaching now,

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somewhere else. Saw her the next day at work and

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she said, sure, I'd love to sit your your all

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your four animals. And I was really, really excited, but

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then I never went on vacation. Something intuitively said she

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wasn't the one. And then the following year, at another

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place where I worked, I was looking on the news.

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She was on the news and arrested for treating special

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needs children. A special needs child. She was treating that child,

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you know, incorrectly. I'll just say that. I won't go

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into detail. And so intuitively I just knew she was

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not the one. So how do we go on these

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sites that say trust pet sitter, sites like Rover Pet International.

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They're all over the internet, They're all over social media,

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They're on Facebook, They're everywhere. And you go on and

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you look up there and you go, oh, she looks nice,

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and I'll call her and maybe we'll do a meet

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and Greek. Right, But we really have no solid unless

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we do a background check. What solid information do we

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have that this person is not going to rob you blind,

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is not going to hurt your pets. You know, I

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worry about abuse. You know there are people out there

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who could abuse your pets. We don't know this. So

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how do we know? I mean, me personally, I have

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a Ferbo camera in my house. Okay, that's a camera

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that I can see what my pets are doing. I

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talk to them. I have multiple cameras actually, so I

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can see what's going on. But they can unplug that pill.

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So exactly, It's like I remember this going back in

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my career obviously, especially was it when I was in

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the wholesale business. I would get calls from veterinary offices

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all the time. It's Force of July, Memorial Day, it's

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you know whatever holiday where people travel, and we are

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booked to the ceiling with orders. Okay, Bill, can you

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send me two twenty four crates? And those crates would

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be stacked up in the exam rooms because the veterinary

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clinic would be closed and they would just stack them

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one on top of the other. And you know that

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they're not getting the exercise. You know, they're not getting

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the personal care that the owners thought they were getting,

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and they were being charged a lot of money. I

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started to tell you in our pre show warm up,

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if you will, about a case that I had with

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This is going back a number of years. But we

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had an analogy dog coming in and we did all

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our nutritional stuff and our dietary stuff and our cleanses

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and all that stuff, and get a call at the

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last minute. Well, we we're going out of town. We

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have to board. We found one of the one of

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your clients. Actually it was a veterinary cleaning tonight's service

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with different supplies that has room and can take it.

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But they will not feed raw. That's what happened, okay, okay,

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So it's like will they feed? Look now, first one,

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they have to understand this. Then they already knows what

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I do, okay, and they know that my clients are

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primarily raw feeders. Okay, but they don't want to be

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accommodating to that. So anyway, what ended up happening is

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we put together a menu for the week, ten days

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whatever they're going of cook foods and they said that's fine,

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and they dropped all the dog and the food and oh,

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by the way, did you get the kennel cough the

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border teller ahead of time?

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No, we can't take it.

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Oh, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We

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can do that here on intake. Okay. Now, first thing

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you need to know about bordetella is that internasal spray

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that they do takes seven to ten days to take effect.

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So how is it going to protect that dog going

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into that kennel today, Not at all.

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That's crazy.

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They go away, they come back and they're picking up

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their dog, and they bring on all their supplies and

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the raw or the cooked diets are still all in

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the bag. And he's like, what's going on? Who didn't

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was my dog eating?

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Oh?

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By the way, your dog loved love that the kibble

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that we gave them as a sample, and that's what

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he's been eating. And then presented a bill that not

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only added the word to Tella spray the treatment for

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kettle cough that that was supposed to prevent, and a

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separate bill for treating the allergy symptoms that the dog has.

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Wow, this is what poor people are going through.

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It's really there was no consent that they knew of.

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But you know, they look at their paperwork and says, well,

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you know, if there's a problem, Okay, so your dog

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didn't eat the first night in the in with somebody

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else there, my dog. I've got pet sitters that come

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into my house. My dog, Sin's a puppy. Half the time,

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she doesn't eat at all while I'm gone.

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She'll go right, I know. They get emotional done the

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same thing.

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They're emotional. There's a stress situation. When you're stress, you

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don't eat well.

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I don't, but some people do. They're stress leaders.

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I know.

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But but the opposite. But you know, these are the people.

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These are mostly caretakers that really do not understand that

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behavior right, that this is just a fight or flight situation.

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I'm I don't know who you are, even though I

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know who you are. I might have seen you forty

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seven times on the street. But if I didn't see

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you in the house or in your house where you're

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taking care of them and around your animal I see

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your animals on the street, that's wondering. You know, you

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and I have experienced occasions with animals where you bring

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in a brand new animal and in the household and

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the pack that's there, the pride that's there, M M.

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Defensive and you know, now you've got a situation where

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it's not comfortable for anybody, including your pets. So there's

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a lot that's going to go into qualifying who are

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you going to use? You know, again, when we look

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at pet providers, where you look at veterinarians, they walk

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into an animal hospital, the smell that smells of death

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and dying animals and the diseased animals and everything else.

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What is their response, Run run, run right?

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What's your take on you know, if a caregiver, would

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you expect a caregiver to have liability insurance? Would you

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consider that person to be more liable because they themselves

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are carrying it? Or would you you know, just go

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with the fly by night neighbor or friend or relative

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or someone who is recommended the.

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Issue with insurance. With animals, they are a their property,

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so your property is covers it your liability. If you're

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coming in your home, your homeowners is going to take

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care of that. Really, we're supposed to, yes, okay if

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they trip and fall all of it, you know. But

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you know, on the other side of it, you want

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to hope that the animals trust them so we don't

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have bite issues and scratch issues and things like that.

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You know, that's what we're most concerned about. We want

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a good we want you need to have them having

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a good relationship. My advice, as always in home is

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best an independent person that you trust because when you

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win the commercial first of if they give you all

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this bs about insurances and vats and all that other

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stuff and it has no bearing on the care that

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they are going to be giving. And if it's somebody

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you know and trust, okay, there's a relationship there, They're

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probably not going to disappoint you. Where if you go

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into a facility, we know, a hotel for yourself, you know,

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you don't know whether you're you know, I mean how

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many how many bodies are found in hotels in the

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average year in the United States.

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I don't I haven't researched that one yet, Bill, I know,

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I wasn't my agenda.

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I know, But was the staff involved? You know? I mean, hey, listen,

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Xyz knows your dog's there. They hate you, Okay, I

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dropped off a package. Oh, Michelle told me to drop

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off these treats or her dog. Do you think Susie,

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seventeen year old intern doing volunteer work, is going to

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do any due diligence.

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You know, it's like they're blank. Anyway, we're up against

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the break. Let's take a quick break here and regain

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our thoughts. We'll be right back.

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At healths Cafe to show where your voice this is

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build at health Google and show my health coach. And

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we're talking about caregivers and how you choose them. And

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that's for things. As I said before the break, my

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preference is always somebody in home.

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It's as I say, there's a bunch of comments coming in.

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We'll answer those a little bit later. But anyway, in

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your home your pet is at least going to be

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most comfortable. That's their environment, that's their den if you will,

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and so you know, I mean in the sixty plus

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years I've been doing this. I mean, you walk into

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the house. Dogs, of course, are generally more social, more friendly,

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you know, will come and greet you things look that. Cats,

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on the other hand, they will usually be shired, get

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into their little corners and stuff like that. You put

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on the food, you clean out the litter box, and

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you leave. They're fine, right, Obviously you have a little

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lot your need. You gotta walk them or have a

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yard like you do, just making sure they have access

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their waters there. You feed on schedule if they're depending

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on what the schedule is, because if you go to

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a facility they feed everybody at once. Well, if your

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dogs are once on feeding once, okay, are they gonna

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be fed twice a day because they're not looking at

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a chart as computer screen whatever. I mean, this is

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all you know, there's a lot of especially when you

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go to somebody's high class ones that you know, two

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hundred dollars a night, three hundred dollars a night for

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your dog. You know, Oh yeah, your dog's got TV.

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That's not you've got you know, you've got forty four

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having monitory, you've got twenty four to seven monitory. Okay,

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that's nice, but all that's going to show you whether

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your dog is comfortable or uncomfortable.

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I actually visited bill one of the facilities. It's a

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hash pash, you know, one of those expensive places. I said,

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let me go, and I said, how many people are

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watching these dogs swim? And she goes, oh, no, one's

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out there watching them and it's just a camera that

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we watch. I said, so my dog can be getting

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bitten and you have to run from X y Z

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office to get there. By that time, my dog could

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be dead. So I did not feel comfortable at all.

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There were a lot of big dogs and I said,

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you know what, this is my baby. Here this you know,

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my fur babies are my babies, and I would not

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be able to have a nice vacation anywhere. I actually

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found another site everyone called bring Fido dot com, and

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that's where you just bring your pets everywhere you go

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because they are your family, you know, unless you want

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to really take them cruise. Obviously you can't, but we'll going,

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you know, maybe fourteen hours somewhere by plane. It's hard

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and another thing taking them on the plane. If I

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didn't have permission to put my child my child on

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the plane next to me the seat. I would not

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do it because there's no way that I'm going to

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board my dog underneath in the suitcase area. Absolutely.

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It's you know, it's interesting because I also had a

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case where I had a dog at Orlando International Airport

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that a veigage handlers thought they were going to be

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cute and pet the dog, and we spent three hours

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chasing this show reading be seon that was sold for

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three hours through jungle flight vegetation around the airport that

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ended up jumping into a canal with alligators that I had.

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I'm wearing a business suit, I'm waiting into the thing

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that pull this dog out because a baggage handler thought,

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oh it's a cute dog.

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I mean I have gone you know, in sixty years,

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I have seen so much. Now, I also tell you

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that on the other side of that, you know, when

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we look at in home, that's obviously what I consider

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to be the gold standard. It's the same with grooming

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because you know, we haven't talked about that yet. Because

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it's in your home. There's a lot less stress, there's

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a lot more control that you have. You don't have

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to go through that list of medications and preventatives and

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everything else that people put you through. I got a

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relationship with one on one.

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I had both. I have to say, had a gentleman

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come to my home. He groomed and he was not gentle,

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he was not my dog, and I put him on

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his way. But then I also had my dog roomed

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at a pet color Petsma one of those, and you know,

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she ended up having cuts. So I now do grooming myself.

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I'm not a professional, but please don't ask me to

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groom your dogs. But I do it myself because at

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least I know if I, you know, do it, it

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will get done. And I do it in a loving manner.

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So amen, I'm growing.

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Yes, Amen, Yeah, I mean that's that's a big part.

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I work with grooms for almost twenty years, and I

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know the challenge there. I know they're weaknesses as well.

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But like you say, in home and or at your house,

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number one, you're not going to be poisoning them for

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the most part because they're not going to require a

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lot of the stuff veterinary care. You know, veterinary care

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used to be in home. There were not animal hospitals

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that trives up to your firm, drove up to your house.

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But now it's like, let's consolidate it into a pet

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health care center, which there's by the way, there's no

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health involved in medicine. I just want to tell people

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that it's you know, and if you're walking into a

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facility that's loaded with chemical you know, uh, disinfectantce and

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detergents and cleaning products, and of course your animal is

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stressed out because they can smell and sense the death,

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dying and disease that's already in the building, the negative energy.

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And it doesn't matter how good the staff is. The

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staff can try to overcome that. You get a lot

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of animal lovers that actually work in these facilities, but

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you still have an issue because it's it's they're on

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your dog. You can't is on fight or flight. And

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you know, every test that they take is stressed. It's

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a stressed test. So the blood work is not going

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to be accurate. There, observation is not going to be accurate.

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It's all you know, it's all in a so called package,

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but it's not you know. It's like, but if you

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want you know, pre cooked food, did you all you

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have to do is eat it up in the oven.

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Let's say it would take bread, but somebody forgot to

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put the yeast into it. What are you going to

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end up with a mess?

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Matxa exactly.

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But on the other side of that, that's a very analogy.

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But that's but that's also the other part of that.

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It's not what you expected, it's not what the pet expected.

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So we have a challenge no matter how we look.

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At go back. So for the audience to understand, you

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must do a meet and greek. I mean, if you

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are if you are someone who does you're new to town.

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I was new to town three three years ago. I

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really didn't know anyone, so I wasn't leaving my pets

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with anybody. But if you really do not know anyone,

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and your family lives far away, and your neighbors are just,

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you know, not the ones you want your pets to be, right,

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so you need to do a meet and greet, get references.

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Don't be afraid to ask for references, you know, observe

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their interaction, ask them to come over, do a walk

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around the block with them. Notice the body interaction, the interaction,

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the energy interaction between your pets and that caregiver. You know,

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and if you don't feel but obviously your pets aren't

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going to feel that. My dogs tell me right away,

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and I'm intuitive, so I already know. But feel them out.

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It's okay to you know. It's just like having a resume.

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Here's my resume and coming in for a job interview.

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It's the same thing. You are interviewing caregivers. You must

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do this. Do not feel guilty about it. If you

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want to ask them if they have liability insurance, go

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for it. Doesn't make them better, but you should have.

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00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.680
You should have recommendation. You ask them about their knowledge.

465
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:06.799
Give them some scenarios. You know, if XYZ were if

466
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.559
Xyz that happened to my dog? What would you do?

467
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.440
How would you react to this situation? If are you

468
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.519
going to text me while I'm on vacation? Are you

469
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.240
going to update me and send me some pictures? So

470
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.880
I feel at eads? Am I going to have to

471
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.720
panic if you don't answer your phone? How reliable is

472
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.319
this person? And I give you another example. Recently, I

473
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.920
was going to hire a younger woman in her twenties

474
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.720
and she's someone I'll just say that I know from

475
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:43.519
my job, and I honestly was feeling again that angst thing.

476
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.799
I don't know. I don't really know her that well.

477
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:50.920
And she proved me correct again Bill, because I saw

478
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.359
her work ethic and she doesn't show up for work,

479
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.799
she doesn't call me and tell me she's not coming.

480
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.759
So right away I said, no, that's a red flag.

481
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.319
I'm done and I move on. Yeah, you have to

482
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.400
do these things. Don't be shy about it. These are

483
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.839
your fur babies. You must must take care of them,

484
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.480
whether you're next or far away.

485
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.960
Now, the other part of it, because we deal so

486
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:20.160
much with on the health side. Okay, if you okay,

487
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.680
I know you're a raw feather. You happen for actually

488
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:30.799
more than a decade. And you know, if this person

489
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.720
happens to the v vegan, are they going to have

490
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.880
an issue? If they're gonna be vegetarian, are you gonna

491
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.359
have an issue? Okay? Are they going to be able

492
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.119
to relate to your dog didn't eat tonight, your don't

493
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.920
didn't go partty tonight? How, oh my god, is this

494
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:50.359
a person that's reactive? And if you know, you get

495
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.240
home from your trip or your you know, your vacation

496
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.400
or wherever it happens to be, and oh, by the way,

497
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.000
you know it did. And I actually had this happened

498
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.119
with a housekeeper that had knowledge of the dog for

499
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:08.519
ages and ages. Client went out of town. Dog had

500
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.599
diarrhea and vomiting out of the blue and didn't want

501
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.240
to know what to do. They took it and so, okay,

502
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.680
take it to the emergency vent. Okay. They did a

503
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.440
full better tests, couldn't find out what was wrong. Was

504
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.079
that there was because medicine is not looking for the

505
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.960
actual causes if you will. And they get a text

506
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:38.119
at midnight that we were going to do exploratory surgery

507
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:44.960
in the morning, did exploratory surgery on this beautiful, magnificent animals,

508
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.640
found nothing wrong, but did two or three procedures, including

509
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.480
removing the spleen to send it out to pathology because

510
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.960
it didn't look right. And at the end of the

511
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.680
day there was nothing really wrong. It was an event

512
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.480
and it cost them. I'm going to tell you, I

513
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.000
know it was well over fifteen thousand dollars and a

514
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.319
dog was never ready again.

515
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:20.759
Yeah, we're gonna be right back after this quick message.

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We're back here on the Peedthal's Cafe to show where

537
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your pets voice. This is film as health Guru along

538
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:08.239
with Charlotte and Michelle. But I was always selling before

539
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.719
the break. I mean, first of all, I want to

540
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.800
reiterate share, like subscribe chat, put all your stuff in here,

541
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.559
you want it all. But this particular person, now this

542
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:25.559
is a the caretaker. The supplemental caretaker was somebody that

543
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.199
was very very familiar with the Samuel and that sort

544
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.679
of thing they did, you know, basically, they were housekeeping

545
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.039
and things of that nature. But even though they knew

546
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.320
the dog very very well, they did not know what

547
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.440
to do an emergency and with them because our standard,

548
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.880
our standard thinking diarrhea, vomiting, Oh my god, they are

549
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.039
so sick, we have to go to the er. These

550
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.119
are events, and that's all. It was an event.

551
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.000
You know, I think we're convinced. You convinced me. I'm

552
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.360
no longer taking any more trips. I was just think

553
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:03.599
with me everywhere.

554
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.519
Now I know, But this is part of the problem

555
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.159
is the and you know, educationally we haven't. You know,

556
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.480
you as an educator, I understand this. We're not taught

557
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.800
really reality. In many many cases, we're taught in narrative

558
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.639
and it's like, oh my god, I got hit by

559
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.679
a car. Okay, so what how bad was that? Was

560
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.760
it a bump? Was it run over? Was it a

561
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.840
tractor trailer? I mean, you know, you got all these

562
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:39.079
variables that have to enter into it. I've seen dogs

563
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.480
actually get run over by a tractor tire, grew up

564
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.880
in a barn for three days, and on day four

565
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.000
they're out hurting cattle. There was no real damage because

566
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.679
it wasn't well. It seemed like it seemed like a disaster,

567
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.760
but it really was. You know, I've had I've had

568
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.280
car tires run over my feet. It hurts for like

569
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:04.000
an hour.

570
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.239
On another note, Bill, I think we're just going to

571
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.719
reiterate to your audience that we both need a backup plan.

572
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.239
I myself have a backup plan, have somebody else just

573
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.840
in case that person, I don't know, whatever happens, and

574
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.760
they need to have a backup plan too, because if

575
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.440
they can't do it, maybe they need one as well.

576
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.320
You need to ask that question, you know, well, let

577
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:29.760
me ask you.

578
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.079
Okay, so when you look at a backup plan, Okay,

579
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.400
so you hire a pessit or will you do it?

580
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.760
We just said it's right, Okay, we're doing it in

581
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.159
home rather than in a facility. What happens if your

582
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:48.840
sitner gets sick? I haven't it forbid dies or.

583
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.280
I don't come home and see the dead body. I'm good,

584
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:54.840
I know.

585
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.920
But we also have to remember our animals are resilient.

586
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.480
If they have to go two, three, four, five, six

587
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.639
days and even more with nothing, what you're gonna end

588
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.400
up with is an animal that is gonna love you

589
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.079
even more because you're home. And you know what that's like.

590
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:13.920
You go at the end of the day, At the

591
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:14.519
end of the.

592
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.840
Day, you got a little skinnier.

593
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.000
Yeah, when you come over from work. Their life you've

594
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.119
been going forever. But but you know, so that's gonna happen,

595
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.000
and they might be a little skinnier, and you might

596
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.800
have a mess to clean up because they weren't let

597
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.159
out or walk or that's something.

598
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:31.960
You know what.

599
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:36.679
Thank god, they are resilient enough to you know, you

600
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.719
might even find they opened up a covered door. You

601
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.440
might find your refrigerators all spoiled food because they opened

602
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.159
up a refrigerator door to get food. I've heard that happen.

603
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.519
It's they are resourceful.

604
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.719
Like I said, I have four. They're gonna keep each

605
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.719
other company. I know that you're gonna miss me like

606
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.960
crazy because I'm gonna miss them. But I have someone

607
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.880
who's reputable and I can try us and if anything

608
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.519
were to happen, then I call you know, X y

609
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.039
Z my backup plan.

610
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:08.760
You're back up to. You got a back up to

611
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.440
a backup.

612
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.760
You have to have a backup plan, you know. But

613
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.920
if these people are just stand offish, stay away from them.

614
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.320
I think you need to answer some of those questions.

615
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.840
We had some questions coming.

616
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.039
Yes, let's putt you up here. I know that was

617
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:26.119
the first one. Hi Bell, I saw your moving where

618
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.440
I don't know. Yeah, we're still working on that. Actually,

619
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.079
we probably will have a answer by the end of

620
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:38.519
the week. We're looking because we're it's not only moving

621
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.920
because something happened to the property that we're in, but

622
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:46.199
we're also going to be expanding and expanding services as well.

623
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:53.159
I'm excited. It's just that finding the right property because

624
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.159
we got put into an emergency situation where we had

625
00:38:56.199 --> 00:39:00.159
to move fast, and I looked at a great property today.

626
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.360
I think that we're very very close, and once it happens,

627
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.559
we're going to knock your socks off. You're not going

628
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.679
to believe the new place we're going to have. It's

629
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.880
going to be fantastic. The next question was they just

630
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:21.000
buy the book education. Well, oh my god, that's your question, Michelle.

631
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.039
I mean, you know you you have to teach by

632
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.960
a certain regiment.

633
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.239
Don't you You really want to go there? Bill?

634
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:31.360
Only the short version.

635
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:34.800
Well, as you know I work, Well, I'm an educator.

636
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.920
I work at a public school, and it's very very strict.

637
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.199
You cannot say too much, and you have to just

638
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.599
go buy the book. So figure that out. Stay in

639
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.480
your little bubble, in your little box, and don't go out.

640
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.800
Employees are brainwashed. They ever employed a place you touched

641
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:53.119
on it.

642
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.519
A long time, Sure, employees are brain Okay, bring that

643
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:00.719
one back up. The employees are brainwashed wherever they're employed.

644
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.320
Because you know, if you're you know, if your primary

645
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.000
line of food is X Y Z and it's kibble

646
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:11.159
and you're moving truckloads of kibble, where's your brain where

647
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.400
it is? Okay, if that's where your profit center is,

648
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.719
that's what your boss says you have to focus on.

649
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.199
You know, we have to deal with this stuff. No

650
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.480
matter what we deal with and you and I as

651
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.599
pet owners have got to be the protectors of our children.

652
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.960
We are same thing when ay, you know, I know

653
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.599
you run into you know, I've had enough conversations with

654
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.079
you that you see the kids every day, We see

655
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.639
the pets every day. You see the problems, and yet

656
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.840
what's being taught and indoctrinated on the outside is not

657
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:51.159
necessarily in that animals and that child's best interests. And

658
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.599
it's tough because you know, so many diseases, so many ailments,

659
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:02.440
so many problems are not only fixable but totally one preventable.

660
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.760
And it all comes back to fear. You know, they

661
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.639
all have fear of the unknown. They all believe one

662
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.559
million percent and what the doctor says. And it's not

663
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.639
that I don't believe in doctors. I do. But if

664
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.719
there are things that happen in your home like vomiting

665
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:24.159
and diarrhea, that doesn't necessarily necessarily mean you should run

666
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.000
to a vet. And if your caregiver is going to

667
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.400
run every single time the dog you know, winks its

668
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.559
eye or you know, blinks, that's an issue. So you

669
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:38.360
need to ask those questions. Yeah, I just want to say, Meggie,

670
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.719
I see register as a service dog.

671
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.039
Ha ha ha, and I haven't you told me a story?

672
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.920
So as we're playing this show that, yeah, you just

673
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.039
by the patch. It doesn't mean they are a service flag.

674
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:53.159
It doesn't.

675
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:59.519
It's and that's what that's what makes the system so questionable.

676
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.679
It's like, how do you find Oh, I work with

677
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.320
service loans, I work with you know, I work with

678
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.559
real people that we do this every day. I've been

679
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.199
doing it for sixty years. You've been a client for

680
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:21.079
what seventeen years? Okay, so you've gone through. I can't

681
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.679
tell you how many times you called me Bill, Bill?

682
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.960
What's going on? You know when I drop off, you know,

683
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.559
when I do the deliveries, which is rare, but you know,

684
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.199
when I do deliveries, it's like pick my brain, Pick

685
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.719
my brain. Everybody does that every day. There's so much

686
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.599
disinformation out there. All people want to know is the truth.

687
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.920
That's what we want and that's what we do here

688
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.840
in the Penn Heal Cafe.

689
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.920
I fear Bill. A lot of people. They have fear

690
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.800
because they don't know. You know, when we talk to you,

691
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.360
when we listen to you, yes, then that's releasing the

692
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.400
fear and the anxiety that we have. I still have

693
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:01.639
sometimes some angst. You know, I see my pet's not

694
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.840
acting as normal, and I asked Bill, and thank god

695
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.239
I have Bill here, and you know this community to

696
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.360
refer to. And that's what you guys need to do.

697
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:16.360
Just refer to Bill, refer to isopet and make sure

698
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.079
that you're aware of you know what you have to know.

699
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:21.519
Okay, so we'll tell you a little bit about grooming. Yeah,

700
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:25.559
I know, no records needed, that's why. Yes, I mean

701
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.239
you know what they're also used. You know, you realize

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that the rabies vaccine was used as a way to

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tax your dog so they could track your dog and

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pay for it and your cat as well. Michelle, I

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don't know where the yeller at. I think you sent

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me like fourteen pages of notes here. I think we

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got through half a page. Well, oh, you know, I

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love it because we're getting down in all the comments

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at the end of the show.

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You know, we do our children too, but these are

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our children. Yes, it's zero yes here because I live

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in Melbourne area, it's coming it's nice.

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Yeah, yes, so traveling there, we're getting products all over

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the world. Michelle, we can do this for another two hours,

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but unfortunately our time is out. Thank you for being

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my guest again again and again. I'd love having you

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because we bring in things that everybody, every pitform needs,

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because you bring the you know, I can sometimes be

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too canned to focused on what I've been doing for

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sixty years. You bring a whole different dynamics it and

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I thank you for that. With that being said, thank

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you Michelle, thank you everybody that watched, and you know

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we will see you again next week with another great show.

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Happy traveling. Everybody be safe and of course we.

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Can be contacted through any of the Facebook and social media. Goodnight, folks.

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