An Alternative to Alopathic Vet Medicine

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and welcome to a Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru with another exciting show for tonight. Hopefully you're going to like this one. I've got a special guests good.

0:52 I'm going to bring it up here in a second. But as I always start to show, I want everybody to like and share, and it's important to kill our algorithms up so we get more of a message out to all your pet lovers and pet owners out there. It's very, very important we try to get as much health information as we can. The chat room will be open if you have questions or comments for either myself or for our guest. And it's an interesting topic. I mean, we have a lot of variety here on health matters, nutritional matter matters, and that sort of thing. Of course, we're on the holistic side and we're going to take a look at a little bit different type of practice with a very very special guest. And I want to introduce right now doctor Marlene Siegel, my guest tonight. How you doing, doctor Marlene? Absolutely amazing, good, good, that's great to hear. You know, I was looking forward to this.

1:56 I wanted to talk to you, you know, on the air and get our clients get a different perspective. You and I share a lot of the same interests, if you will, you know, natural medicine and especially nutrition, cancer, which we'll get into a little bit later on. But tell us a little bit about yourself. How did you get started in this crazy business. Well, I became a veterinarian forty years ago, that's for zero. And I was just like everybody else. We graduate medical school where trained allopathically, and I was doing the same thing. I was a good clinician, even with the Western toolkit. I did very good for my patients. But I had a life changing incident about fifteen years into my practice where my youngest daughter and one of our show horses had an accident in the riding arena. And the horse saved my daughter's life. And it was my quest to literally fix this horse and put her back into the show ring. And I was told by equin veterinarians that they didn't know what it was that she had wrong with her, and they could either put her out to a pasture or I could put her down. And it was those words that there was nothing more that they could do or that they knew how to do, that set me on a trajectory to not only find the answers for this horse, but I also made a promise to every client from that moment forward that I would never utter the words there is nothing more that can be done, because I believe there's always something that we can do. It just means that we have to think out of the box, we have to be a little

3:26 more creative. But most importantly, we can't be okay with a limited amount of knowledge. And that's really what the veterinarians that told me that they weren't trying to be mean, they weren't trying to do the wrong thing. It's truly all they knew, and so that's all they could do. So I was determined that I was going to find solutions even if solutions didn't exist yet. So that happened to be during a period of time when the functional medicine on the human side was just being birthed, and so I just consumed everything I could from functional medicine on the human side, translated it to how I could use it for my pet parents by pet patients. And I still do that. I am still constantly learning and constantly adding to my toolkit.

4:13 That's that's important because that's one of the biggest challenges I've I've found over I've been in the business for fifty five years, and it's tough when you know, you go to a doctor and you know the only thing in their toolbox is you know, medicine, surgery, radiation, and where use in Asia is actually you know, a procedure, you know, an option. And that's why one of the reasons why I went in my direction as well, I had a bunch of different theories along the way. I helped introduce a lot of products over over that fifty years. I was a manufacturer's rep for almost twenty five and came up with a lot of good useful products that veterinarians jus today groomers used today. It was important to get to get that toolbox filled with the right things.

5:05 And about twenty five thirty years ago, all of a sudden the nutrition stuff from my background kicked in and it's like, wait a minute, but it's funny. The funny part of it is my very first job out of high school before I went to college, was in a Purina mill making food. And back then, we didn't have GMO, We did not have you know, the confined animal uh factories if you will. You know, the average farm probably had fifty chickens and you know, two dozen dairy cattle, and you know, a few horses and that sort of thing. So it was a completely different way of doing things. They were basically what to considered today regenerative farms, because that's exactly what they did, rotational pastures and you know, not feeding a lot of inappropriate things to our farm animals as well, which has affected our quality of food now that we feed to our pets and that sort of thing. So and of course ourselves. So and I know that you do a little bit on the human side as well, just like I do. You got to get the pet parents to believe and how we got started down on primarily in the retail was my customers complaining that my pets are eating better than I am.

6:15 What can you do? And I said, we got a program for that, and so we got involved in in all the pasture raised foods here in Florida, working directly with the farms through au Dairy, you know, pasture raise eggs and things of that nature. So there's a lot of similarities, I know, but you you know, being on the on the veterinary side is a little bit different, you see, And of course I get a lot of referrals here, but you're seeing you're seeing owners that haven't really started down that path yet, don't you you know, the old allopathic model. I got to run the doctor because my dog's got a little bit of diarrhea or vomited last night, and you know all of that. How do you approach those kind of clients with, you know, differently or you know, because you're kind of blending two or three or four or a dozen different modalities there, aren't you.

7:08 Well, a lot more than I'm not even sure what the question that you asked me was, But what happens when somebody actually wants me to treat their animals? Because my practice is a bioregulatory medicine practice. So even though I see everything, we do everything a traditional veterinarian does. We see animals for wellness care, we see animals for routine surgeries, but the focus of my practice is actually helping to diagnose and then reverse disease. And there is no disease. There is disease. So when the body is not in balance, we start to see symptoms. Because like your car, if the dash light comes on in your car and it's telling you there's something wrong, you don't necessarily have to diagnose it, but you know you need to take it in and have somebody look at it because there is a problem there. The same thing with the body. It's like a big fancy machine, and when we start to see symptoms, it's the body talking to us.

8:04 We just have to learn how to listen better. So in my practice, I help clients to become educated, because I think that's the very first step that we need to take. As you mentioned, we come from a world of fast, cheap and convenient, and people have not been taught how to be healthy. We've actually been taught how to function in a broke are medical system for humans, and the same thing on the veterinary side, we were taught symptom suppression. We name it, we blame it, We come up with a pharmaceutical or surgery, or a chemo or a radiation, and that's how most veterinarians practice medicine because that's what they were taught. What I do is I help educate my clients as to what actually causes disease.

8:48 And it's pretty simple. It's deficiency of essential nutrients. It's an overwhelming amount of toxins that the body can no longer handle. And then there's mitochondrial dysfunction. The mitochondria are the little powerhouses that do more than just make energy for the body. They're actually the communication network that tells the microbiome what to uncover in the way of genetic expression. So five percent of our disease is genetic. Ninety five percent of our gene expression is epigenetics. And epigenetics are the external influences, the lifestyle factors that we create that then tells our cells in our DNA what to uncover based on the interpretation from what we're seeing, from what hormones we're developing, from what our mindset is. Because we're creating neurotransmitters based on the thoughts that we're having. So if somebody has a lot of negative thoughts, if they're angry, if they're frustrated, the glass is always half empty, they produce a whole different set of neurotransmitters than a per who feels safe and secure and nourished and has community, and they feel like they are in a highly parisitpathetic state.

10:10 You know, they're very comfortable in their skin and their world is safe around them. Two totally different environments, and it's a majority of it is how people interpret their surroundings. So I work on helping pet parents to understand what is the lifestyle that they're creating for their pet, which includes of course what they're creating environmentally, and then what they can do differently so this animals can thrive to twenty and beyond, which is what they should be doing. Absolutely. It's funny when my first job out of college was in a shepherd channel in upstate New York, and this was nineteen seventy one, and my first say I was introduced to all the dogs, including a number of World War two veteran dogs decorated war dogs. In nineteen seventy one. Those shepherds were in their late twenties, if not thirty years old. But they were also born well before kibble. It's which is an interesting thing too. They were being fed real foods, and that's why I ended up getting involved in the nutrition area. But you know your approach, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's one of the things that we teach a lot. You know, the owners have a lot to do with it. But you know, I said this years and years and years ago, even working with rescues, that you know, we teach all this garbage in school to our kids, and yet what seventy percent of all households will have a pet sometime during their life, and there's no mention of any kind of health or animal care in any of that education. And so we're starting out with basically a client that has

11:41 been bombarded with all the drug ads, all the food advertising for the commercial foods, and when you try to explain this to people, quite often they don't have any understanding delay they don't really have that open mind. They've never they're being Basically, I looked at it when I would get a blame new client like that, and I basically have to say everything that you've been taught so far, you've been wrong. And now I got to move to the other side of the table and say here's how we can help you. And I'm sure you run into the same thing. Yeah, we just approached a little bit differently. It's just that we have grown up in a world where we model what we see around us. And so if your parents taught or fed kibble, and then you go to the grocery store and that's all you see and no one's told you anything differently, then that's going to be your belief system. And belief systems are bs.

12:33 But someone but that's right. So now, but people, I find that people in today's world, especially post COVID, are really becoming a lot more awakened and a lot more educated. And we all make mistakes. I'm heck, my first fifteen years in practice, we were recommending process bet food because we came out of that school being taught by these companies that that was good nutrition. And until something happens in our life, we don't tend to question the BS. We just continue with the belief system until something happens that shakes the foundation of that belief system and makes you think, oh my gosh, maybe that's not right anymore. And like you said, we've entered a much more toxic world. So now I find that PET parents that are coming to me have already experienced the relapses, the health failures, the cancers, and they're becoming educated that we need to think differently, we need to behave differently, and so they're looking for different answers. They don't want the pharmaceutical answer necessarily. And that's not to say that both worlds don't have a place, because they do.

13:42 God forbid, we're in an accident, you would be very appreciative that that hospital is there and they have the technology, equipment and medications to help save your life. But when it comes to preventative health care, we need to come back to a foundation, which is what are we eating, what are we drinking? What is our environment? What is the amount of pollution like electromagnetic pollution and mold and all these things that we're exposed to. How can we control all that to set up more proper foundation for healthcare. And I think the easiest thing for me to do would just be to describe my six steps for health and healing. If that would be okay, with you. Oh, that'd be great. All right, that's going to be our launching cloud. The step number one is we have to stop doing the things that are causing the problems. We know that cancer rates in humans right now, men are one out of two and women are one out of three. And this is almost age irrelevant because we're seeing high rates of cancer and children and dogs it's one out of one point six 'y five. I really think that number is higher, and that's literally almost one hundred percent of the dogs that we're seeing are getting cancer under the age of one.

14:51 And then cats they say is one out of three. I think it's highly underreported. But when you start including obesity, autoimmune disease, are ritis, gastrointestinal problems, diabetes, we're talking almost one hundred percent of the animals coming down with some form of chronic disease, and skin disease is one of the biggest. I think cancer is right behind that. So it's no longer a question of if a animal will have a problem. It's going to be when, and it's sooner and sooner. So step number one we have to look at what's causing it. We started our conversation saying that most of our illnesses come from epigenetics, our lifestyle, so we look at what are they eating, And of course this conversation is all about not feeding processed foods.

15:37 It's not good for us and it's not good for our animals. So we need to be feeding what I call a species appropriate diet, and that's across the board for all the animals. So, for instance, a bird is not going to eat the same as a dog, and not all birds eat the same as other birds. So a species appropriate diet is what that animal would eat if they were in the wild without man intervening. So our carnivores, being our obligate carnivores are the cats, and our scavenger carnivores are our dogs. They were designed to kill another animal and eat it in the state that they killed it in. Now I'll get to the essential nutrients in a second. Water. We know that the water that comes from our tap, especially in Florida, because Bill and I are both in Florida, we have some of the worst water of any state. It's full of pollutants.

16:26 It has over over one hundred and eighty thousand toxins are in our water that is not being cleaned and filtered, so heavy metals life is safe. The neighbors. Medications that are going down into the water system. It's really bad, all the petrochemicals that are coming from washing off the land, off the roads, and going down into the aquifer. And then we're harvesting that water and using it. So water needs to be structured, it needs to be highly filtered. And I add molecular hydrogen in there. That's a whole other topic can do on another day, but at least having water that's highly filtered and structured is imperative. And then we have to look at the environment that the pets are in. What are you cleaning your house with?

17:10 Is it a bunch of petroleum based products. There's a lot of toxins in there. Do you have a mold in your house? What's the air quality? Because there's a lot of people in Florida that their ducks are very dirty, especially with mold, and that can be very harmful to the pets that we're dealing with. And then the electromagnetic pollution that's huge. We got five G bombarding us and a lot of pet parents put the animal's beds where the router is and they have a lot of smart appliances. So all of this is producing an exceedingly large amount of electromagnetic pollution which is affecting the body as well. And then, last, but not least, the ants in our brain, which are those automatic negative thoughts that can be producing these negative neurochemicals that are pets entrain to. So it isn't that THEA is necessarily feeling the same thing or understanding it, but they have a principle called entrainment. This is a physics principle. It's not even woo wu. And this physics principle means that when two energies come together, they will start to blend and share until they come to a common ground. So think about when you've been to a really good lecture or a great sermon at church, or a Tony Robbins event. When you leave that event, you feel really energized and powerful and very positive. You can do that, but you can also be around the people who I call energy vampires, and these are people that will suck you dry. And when that happens, you

18:42 feel like you have to go home and take a nap because they're really draining to your energy. Those are my one star reviews, and so Typically these are people that are angry and frustrated and they want to take their blame and shame out on others. We've all experienced this, so that's stuff number one, really addressing all the factors that are in our control to be able to help the animal start to live a better life. Number two are the before we get into number two though. You know, basically, I want to want to tell you that this is a lot about what we teach as well. That's why I say I know that our pathways are very very similar, and we've written right now we're actually against the first break, so we'll start on your second step as soon as we get back. We'll be right back.

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21:46 And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet Health cour along with my special guest doctor Merlene Siegel. As always again I want to remind you is like and share and subscribe so we don't miss any more of this in there is a very information. Once this show is done will be up twenty four to seven so you can go back through and review it, which is a good thing. Again, the chat is open if anybody's got a question, we'll be glad to entertain it. So you come it up to stage two, so go a little faster, so stepnevkay making sure that the animal has all the essential nutrients that they need for proper biological function.

22:27 Now, an essential nutrient is those nutrients that the body cannot manufacture insufficient quantities on its own. It's amazing that our bodies and our pets bodies can actually generate most of the nutrients that needs from the foods that we're eating. But I think God had a sense of humor and said, I'm going to give them a limiting factor and make sure that they don't screw up their earth too bad. And that is those essential nutrients. So there's vitamins, minerals, batty acids, and amino acids that are essential for the body to operate properly, and you can go on Google and actually look them up. So that's number two. Number three is we have to heal the leaky gut. Anytime there is inflammation that affects the tight junctions and the gut, then they become leaky and product that should not have come into the body enters the body is transported by the bloodstream to the liver, where it then triggers the liver to create inflammation or a cytokind storm to kill the invader. And this was a really important aspect of how we've been able to survive the millennials. That we've survived is because we had a mechanism which would kick in without our having to think about it and take care of an invader. So you know, if you were exposed to a bacteria or a virus or a cut or an infection, your body is going to automatically recognize it, respond and get rid of it. So that's a good thing.

23:51 The problem is that in today's modern society, those invaders never stop coming in. They're coming in twenty four to seven every bite of every meal that we're creating damage in that gut lining and poor digestion and the exposure to toxins we've already talked about. So this cytokind storm never turns off, and that's what leads to the chronic inflammation, the autoimmune diseases ultimately cancer as the biggest degenerative state of our bodies. So number four is detoxification, and this is one of my favorite areas to work in. We have six organs of elimination, the kidney, the colon, the lungs, the liver, the skin, and the lymphatics. I include the fausha now when I speak about the lymphatics, because the lymphatics actually run through the faussa and the fausha is the critical communication highway that the mitochondria and the bacteria all use to communicate deliver reducts signaling to deliver nutrients, so it's really really important, so detoxification we have the mechanism to do it. The problem is we are so overwhelmed and inundated with so many toxins that our organs can't keep up. We were just never designed to have the level of toxicity that we're exposed in today's society.

25:12 So we have to recognize when the organs are overwhelmed, and then we have to help them in the detoxification process. And then number five is the mitochontria. We need to have gazillions of them and they need to be functioning really well, which means they have to be able to make a lot of energy, and they have to be able to communicate effectively through the fasha to the microbiome and the rest of the body. And then number six is something I don't teach all the time, but it is in my pet parent courses, And that's clearing the trapped emotions that are associated with all disease. There's always emotions associated with each disease. Chinese knew this millions of years ago. They wax you thousands of years ago, but they knew that certain organs we're associated with, certain meridians we're associated with certain emotions, and so when we see illnesses, I can start to figure out where the root causes are and what the emotional attachment is based on where in the body these symptoms are showing up.

26:20 And you know, it's again, it's a lot of the stuff that we talk about every day. You know that energy has a lot. To do with it. I know I do. When I'm doing cancer, the first thing I tell people is cancers. You know, cancer is not death sentence, and you have to quit looking at it this way. Your dog is picking up, your cat's picking up on your energy, and you're sitting there worried, worried, worried, And how can they heal if they're you know, if they're battling your energy. And you know, I'm sure that you run into. This a lot. How do you sometimes overcome that with with your clients. So I'm a little bit different in that realm in that I think that everything happens for a reason, first of all, And I think part of the game of Earth's School, because I think we're in Earth's School and this is a hologram, but part of our job is to shift the energy. But in order to shift it, you have to recognize what it is that it's trying to tell you. So if I had a recorder and it had basic information on it, every time I hit the play button, I'm going to get the same recording, agreed.

27:29 But if I want to change the recording, I have to literally erase the recording and re record what I want to put on there. So think of the body the same way. Our brain is a computer system. It's a big CPU, and every experience that we have had creates this neuro network of information and it stores that information. So the first time as children we touch a hot product, if we touch the stove or something, we get burned, information goes into our database that says, don't touch that stove when it's hot because it hurts, and so we don't tend to repeat those same mistakes. But when something has never been experienced before and you're doing it for the first time, you don't have a program running that tells you what to do with it. So I help people to understand that when they are coming in with their pet, and there are certain emotions that they have, if it's fear, if it's a shame, whatever that is, if it's really strong for them and they've experienced it multiple times before. That's hardwired, and perhaps that animal is helping to bring out that information so that it could be recognized. And then I think what the game is from there is how can we shift that low vibration emotion into a higher vibration because everything has an equal and opposite And again that's not by accident, that's quite

29:00 I design. We have to start recognizing the emotion that we're having so that we can look for the healing and the blessing from that, whatever that situation is. And then now we have the opportunity to experience that emotion or that situation in a higher vibration and in a way that we could see the blessing in there. Because if you've experienced the same thing over and over and over, the betrayal, that's fake. And every time you have a relationship it ends in betrayal. You know at some point you have to look in the mirror and go, am I the Am I the base of that equation? Am I the problem dominator? And why am I still experiencing that?

29:47 Maybe because we haven't healed the instigation of where that came from. And if we can start healing those emotions. Then we start experienced life from a very different lens, and it's all about perception. How do we want to choose to experience Do we want to be a victim forever or do we want to realize that this is our opportunity to be a victor and to change how we experience something. Because Bill, at the end of the day, we're all leaving this planet, not talking about the Fountain of Youth and that we're going to find the secret to live forever and ever and ever. Our pets are not going to live forever. We're not going to live forever.

30:28 But are we living and doing good things while we're here? So maybe the pets are part of the ability for us to recognize the patterns that we're creating in our lives. If it's a pattern that is serving you and it really helps you, then keep doing it. But if it's a pattern that is not serving you, if it's harmful, if it's creating angst and unhappiness and trauma in your life, then you have an opportunity to change it. And so you might find and a practitioner who works with trapped emotions that can help shift that. Yeah, it's related to this as well when I get it, especially with cancer dogs, but also a lot of other animals that have major challenges. I often bring up to them that you know, cancer, of course is primarily in an environmental disease. That if your dog has got cancer, chances are that environment is going to affect you as the pet parent as well. Of course, dogs and cats have got shorter life spans than we do, so it's going to show up in a much quicker sense. And you know, we know that, and if you brought it out very well, you have to change that lifestyle. You know, diabetes are no different than that, and a lot of these things. I was watching a podcast today that probably ninety percent of the diseases that this was primarily on people, but they also get into a lot of animals as well because they also cover gardens and lifestyles and things

32:00 like that, but that about ninety percent of them are either completely curable, reversible, and or preventable. And we've just never been you know, that training isn't out there, is it except for people like you and I. Yeah, well, there again, there's a lot of people that are starting to become a little more awakened and more conscious and they're creating this movement, So I think it's a wonderful opportunity in the world. You know, if we were to have had this conversation twenty years ago, we wouldn't have had this conversation twenty years ago because people didn't talk like this. We didn't talk about energy and consciousness and spirit and these were not conversations that people had at all. So now the fact that this is very common, and you know, I'm a medium as well, so we have all of this conversation coming around spiritualism, and I think it's really important that we realize that this is a very pivotal time in how we perceive the world, and it's time for us to look at around us at all the hints, because I don't think we're just plopped here as if we're in a video game with no instructions. Everything around us is an instruction.

33:14 And the easiest way for people to realize if they are on path or off path is by recognizing resistance versus flow. So when you have a lot of resistance, it means that everything that you do there's angst involved. You wake up in the morning and you can't find your keys or be alarmed it and go off, and so you're late, and you get every traffic light, you get the worst teller at the bank, they get a flat tire. These are all elements of resistance. If you start recognizing that everything happening around you is guiding you, that resistance is helping to tell you, whoh, slow down, take a deep breath, look around and see what you need to shift. And that includes our pets to nature around us. Everything has a meaningful message to us if we look at it that way. And then flow is when everything just flows. It's aerendipity. You everything, all you think of it, and then the phone call happens, and you'll mail, and there's the check and all you know, the easy piece that's flow.

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36:11 And welcome back. This is build a Pet Health Guru along with doctor Marlene Siegel. This hour is going by way too fast. This is gonna be a short segment, so I'm kind of going to leave it a little bit open to you as to you know, some of the messages that you would like to get out there to the pet owners that are listening and watching hopefully now and in the future, because we're looking we're trying to move obviously the industry in a way. One of my goals is of course to help empower the pet parents basically to take charge of their pets health. This is a big thing because I think too much of it has been relied on on that you know, that alpathic you know model where every little thing you have to run somebody in a white coat, and unfortunately, in a lot of cases they don't get answers that they need.

36:58 We have to do our own research and we should really be teaching them care and things like that. So with that being said, you know, I'm kind of giving you the floor, all right. So if I had my wish then it would be to number one, help pet parents become empowered, like you just said, and to bring back critical thinking skills. We have a world of massive noise. There's so much information out there, remember the BS, the belief systems. There's so much information, and there's so much confusion and there's so much misinformation that it could be very challenging for pet parents to know how do you weed through what's real and what's hype. You know, we see it all the time.

37:42 When here's an example, when companies label their meat grass fed, that actually means that animal could have been on a pasture for one day of its entire life. Where grass fed grass finished means that that animal lived outside and was eating its species of part diet. So that's just one example about how labeling can be very misleading. So my first suggestion and request to pet parents is as you bring back your critical thinking skills, is you find really good resources for education. Now it doesn't have to be my Empowered Pet Parent course, but I think it's one of the best starting places because I give good scientific evidence. I use critical thinking to help people remember what it's like to think, and then I help them with resources on how do we do proper diagnostic testing because it doesn't have to be real complicated disease. As I said in the first segment, is deficiency, toxicity, mitochondrial dysfunction, and trapped emotions. Now, how you diagnose that and how you go around fixing it is where my skill comes in.

38:54 But at least now we're talking on the same page and we can help people make those life style choices. And I think it's not important. It's not just important for ourselves and our human family and our fur family, but it's actually very important for Mother Earth, because if we kill our Earth with all of the pollutants that we're doing to it, and we kill off the bees and the species that are helping us to survive on this planet, the microbiome of the planet. You know, there's not just a microbiome inside us and our pets. There's a microbiome in the Earth as well. And as we put more and more toxins on Mother Earth, we're just drawing that microbiome. So in the very near future, we could not have a planet to live on if we don't start taking better care of us, our pets, and the planet. So those are really big important factors that I would like people to be thinking about in how do I start? This is my approach to starting is you take a piece of paper and you fold it in half, and you put column on one side and columb on the other. Now, this is an ongoing living document.

40:00 Column A are all the things that you are now learning about that you should be doing for yourself or your pets, for Mother Earth. And you list all that because it's stuff that you should be doing, but you're not doing it yet. Colin B. All the things you should not be doing to yourself, to the pets, or to mother Earth, but you still are. And it's just simply because no one taught you anything differently. So now you have a roadmap of how to proceed, and you simply pick one thing from column A to start doing, one thing from Colum B to stop, and then when that becomes who you are, it's a habit. You don't have to think about it anymore. You go back to your roadmap and you pick another thing from column A and another thing from Colum B. And if you can do that, you will avoid analysis paralysis, which is where you're inundated with so much information and it's so overwhelming that you don't know where to start, and so you don't start anywhere. You just continue to what you're doing.

41:01 And the sadness there is that when we as humans, we go to the doctor and you fill out the form and it says, oh, did your family members have cancer? Did they have this disease and that disease? Well, honestly, what they should be asking is do you have the same lifestyle that your family members had? Because if you have the same lifestyle, you're likely to have the same outcome. Einstein had insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Einstein also said you can't solve problems with the same mindset that created them. We have been taught to live in a world of fast, cheap and convenient and then take an antibiotic or a pill and it's going to fix the problem. Well, we won't have antibiotics in another fifteen years because the level of antibiotic resistance is becoming so high that they're almost ineffective, and in fifteen years from now they will be ineffective.

42:01 And this is out of the American Medical Association. They're actually warning. When we as Vennarians have to do our renewals, we're actually quizzed and taught and tested on avoiding the overuse and misuse of antibiotics. So when we go to when I don't go to the doctor, but when people go to the doctor and they're ill and they say, oh, give me an antibiotic, well is that really appropriate treatment? And same thing for the pets. Have people that will come in and they go, oh, I just want an antibiotic and I want to go home. First of all, they're not a good client for me. But second of all, if it's not appropriate, if it's a virus then or a fungus infection, then a typical antibacterial may not be appropriate.

42:44 So we have to really know what are we treating and what is the right thing to treat. Most importantly, we have to understand that illness only comes in when the terrain is not balanced. The terrain is the environment in an on our body. Think about a garden when the earth is really not nutritious, you get weeds that come in, and then the weeds help to establish a community, and then they start to create some microbiome, and then as the weeds start to die off, then other more advanced plant species can come in. So think of your body. If you have illness, it's like your body has a bunch of weeds because you don't have anything healthy for the good stuff to grow in. And that's going to happen with your pets as well. So I hope those are all ways that people could relate. We covered some pretty important topics. We covered understanding flow and resistance. If you keep getting a lot of resistance, take a step back take a deep breath, look around and say, maybe this isn't the direction I need to go. And then what am I doing in the six steps that are either helping or not helping the body to function? And then making better choices? And the number one that I want to leave people with is that we get to vote with our dollars. So if you are buying from companies like Amazon, if you're supporting companies that are making genetically modified foods, are using seed oils, If you go

44:15 to restaurants that are not offering healthy food choices i e. Gluten free, seed oil free, organic options, if they're not offering that, then don't eat there because when you spend your money there, you are encouraging them to continue to feed you toxic food. Same thing at the grocery store, what you spend your money on is going directly back to whoever made that. Well, can you imagine if everybody in the US, let's say just fifty percent of the population decided not to buy anything that was genetically modified cereals, meats, fruits, and vegetables that have been chemically altered. About that, do you think they would continue to produce it? Oh?

45:04 No, Okay, We've been about a minute and a half here tell tell our audience, our listeners, our watchers, how can they reach you and how can you help them? In a minute, Drmarlensiegel dot com. You can see the spelling is the hub of everything me. My hospitals off of that, My courses are off of that, our online store is off of that. We have tons of free information, blogs, newsletters. Please sign up. My free ebook is Holistic Healing bet dot com and that gives you the six steps so that you can now have a roadmap to follow. You know, this has been, like you said, all my shows, I keep saying that that the hour just keep getting shorter and shorter and shorter because we're getting so much great information out there. I want to thank you for being a great guest with basically confirming that I'm doing a lot of what I'm supposed to be doing, which is always good. You know, sometimes I get this on here that it's kind of combative, but uh, you know, we're on the same page and I really really enjoy it.

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