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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet
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Health Cafe where your pet has a Voice.
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And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
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welcome to a Pet Health Cafe to show where your
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pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet Health
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Guru with another exciting show for tonight. Hopefully you're going
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to like this one. I've got a special guests good.
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I'm going to bring it up here in a second.
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But as I always start to show, I want everybody
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to like and share, and it's important to kill our
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algorithms up so we get more of a message out
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to all your pet lovers and pet owners out there.
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It's very, very important we try to get as much
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health information as we can. The chat room will be
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open if you have questions or comments for either myself
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or for our guest. And it's an interesting topic. I mean,
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we have a lot of variety here on health matters,
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nutritional matter matters, and that sort of thing. Of course,
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we're on the holistic side and we're going to take
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a look at a little bit different type of practice
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with a very very special guest. And I want to
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introduce right now doctor Marlene Siegel, my guest tonight. How
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you doing, doctor Marlene? Absolutely amazing, good, good, that's great
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to hear. You know, I was looking forward to this.
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I wanted to talk to you, you know, on the
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air and get our clients get a different perspective. You
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and I share a lot of the same interests, if
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you will, you know, natural medicine and especially nutrition, cancer,
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which we'll get into a little bit later on. But
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tell us a little bit about yourself. How did you
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get started in this crazy business.
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Well, I became a veterinarian forty years ago, that's for zero.
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And I was just like everybody else. We graduate medical
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school where trained allopathically, and I was doing the same thing.
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I was a good clinician, even with the Western toolkit.
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I did very good for my patients. But I had
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a life changing incident about fifteen years into my practice
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where my youngest daughter and one of our show horses
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had an accident in the riding arena. And the horse
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saved my daughter's life. And it was my quest to
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literally fix this horse and put her back into the
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show ring. And I was told by equin veterinarians that
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they didn't know what it was that she had wrong
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with her, and they could either put her out to
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a pasture or I could put her down. And it
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was those words that there was nothing more that they
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could do or that they knew how to do, that
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set me on a trajectory to not only find the
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answers for this horse, but I also made a promise
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to every client from that moment forward that I would
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never utter the words there is nothing more that can
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be done, because I believe there's always something that we
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can do. It just means that we have to think
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out of the box, we have to be a little
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more creative. But most importantly, we can't be okay with
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a limited amount of knowledge. And that's really what the
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veterinarians that told me that they weren't trying to be mean,
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they weren't trying to do the wrong thing. It's truly
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all they knew, and so that's all they could do.
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So I was determined that I was going to find
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solutions even if solutions didn't exist yet. So that happened
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to be during a period of time when the functional
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medicine on the human side was just being birthed, and
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so I just consumed everything I could from functional medicine
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on the human side, translated it to how I could
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use it for my pet parents by pet patients. And
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I still do that. I am still constantly learning and
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constantly adding to my toolkit.
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That's that's important because that's one of the biggest challenges
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I've I've found over I've been in the business for
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fifty five years, and it's tough when you know, you
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go to a doctor and you know the only thing
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in their toolbox is you know, medicine, surgery, radiation, and
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where use in Asia is actually you know, a procedure,
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you know, an option. And that's why one of the
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reasons why I went in my direction as well, I
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had a bunch of different theories along the way. I
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helped introduce a lot of products over over that fifty years.
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I was a manufacturer's rep for almost twenty five and
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came up with a lot of good useful products that
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veterinarians jus today groomers used today. It was important to
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get to get that toolbox filled with the right things.
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And about twenty five thirty years ago, all of a
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sudden the nutrition stuff from my background kicked in and
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it's like, wait a minute, but it's funny. The funny
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part of it is my very first job out of
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high school before I went to college, was in a
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Purina mill making food. And back then, we didn't have GMO,
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We did not have you know, the confined animal uh
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factories if you will. You know, the average farm probably
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had fifty chickens and you know, two dozen dairy cattle,
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and you know, a few horses and that sort of thing.
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So it was a completely different way of doing things.
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They were basically what to considered today regenerative farms, because
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that's exactly what they did, rotational pastures and you know,
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not feeding a lot of inappropriate things to our farm
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animals as well, which has affected our quality of food
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now that we feed to our pets and that sort
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of thing. So and of course ourselves. So and I
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know that you do a little bit on the human
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side as well, just like I do. You got to
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get the pet parents to believe and how we got
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started down on primarily in the retail was my customers
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complaining that my pets are eating better than I am.
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What can you do?
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And I said, we got a program for that, and
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so we got involved in in all the pasture raised
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foods here in Florida, working directly with the farms through
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au Dairy, you know, pasture raise eggs and things of
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that nature. So there's a lot of similarities, I know,
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but you you know, being on the on the veterinary
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side is a little bit different, you see, And of
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course I get a lot of referrals here, but you're
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seeing you're seeing owners that haven't really started down that
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path yet, don't you you know, the old allopathic model.
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I got to run the doctor because my dog's got
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a little bit of diarrhea or vomited last night, and
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you know all of that. How do you approach those
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kind of clients with, you know, differently or you know,
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because you're kind of blending two or three or four
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or a dozen different modalities there, aren't you.
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Well, a lot more than I'm not even sure what
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the question that you asked me was, But what happens
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when somebody actually wants me to treat their animals? Because
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my practice is a bioregulatory medicine practice. So even though
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I see everything, we do everything a traditional veterinarian does.
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We see animals for wellness care, we see animals for
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routine surgeries, but the focus of my practice is actually
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helping to diagnose and then reverse disease. And there is
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no disease. There is disease. So when the body is
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not in balance, we start to see symptoms. Because like
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your car, if the dash light comes on in your
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car and it's telling you there's something wrong, you don't
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necessarily have to diagnose it, but you know you need
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to take it in and have somebody look at it
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because there is a problem there. The same thing with
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the body. It's like a big fancy machine, and when
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we start to see symptoms, it's the body talking to us.
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We just have to learn how to listen better. So
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in my practice, I help clients to become educated, because
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I think that's the very first step that we need
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to take. As you mentioned, we come from a world
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of fast, cheap and convenient, and people have not been
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taught how to be healthy. We've actually been taught how
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to function in a broke are medical system for humans,
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and the same thing on the veterinary side, we were
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taught symptom suppression. We name it, we blame it, We
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come up with a pharmaceutical or surgery, or a chemo
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or a radiation, and that's how most veterinarians practice medicine
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because that's what they were taught. What I do is
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I help educate my clients as to what actually causes disease.
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And it's pretty simple. It's deficiency of essential nutrients. It's
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an overwhelming amount of toxins that the body can no
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longer handle. And then there's mitochondrial dysfunction. The mitochondria are
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the little powerhouses that do more than just make energy
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for the body. They're actually the communication network that tells
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the microbiome what to uncover in the way of genetic expression.
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So five percent of our disease is genetic. Ninety five
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percent of our gene expression is epigenetics. And epigenetics are
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the external influences, the lifestyle factors that we create that
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then tells our cells in our DNA what to uncover
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based on the interpretation from what we're seeing, from what
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hormones we're developing, from what our mindset is. Because we're
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creating neurotransmitters based on the thoughts that we're having. So
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if somebody has a lot of negative thoughts, if they're angry,
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if they're frustrated, the glass is always half empty, they
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produce a whole different set of neurotransmitters than a per
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who feels safe and secure and nourished and has community,
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and they feel like they are in a highly parisitpathetic state.
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You know, they're very comfortable in their skin and their
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world is safe around them. Two totally different environments, and
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it's a majority of it is how people interpret their surroundings.
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So I work on helping pet parents to understand what
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is the lifestyle that they're creating for their pet, which
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includes of course what they're creating environmentally, and then what
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they can do differently so this animals can thrive to
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twenty and beyond, which is what they should be doing.
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Absolutely. It's funny when my first job out of college
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was in a shepherd channel in upstate New York, and
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this was nineteen seventy one, and my first say I
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was introduced to all the dogs, including a number of
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World War two veteran dogs decorated war dogs. In nineteen
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seventy one. Those shepherds were in their late twenties, if
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not thirty years old. But they were also born well
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before kibble. It's which is an interesting thing too. They
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were being fed real foods, and that's why I ended
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up getting involved in the nutrition area. But you know
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your approach, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's one of
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the things that we teach a lot. You know, the
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owners have a lot to do with it. But you know,
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I said this years and years and years ago, even
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working with rescues, that you know, we teach all this
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garbage in school to our kids, and yet what seventy
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percent of all households will have a pet sometime during
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their life, and there's no mention of any kind of
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health or animal care in any of that education. And
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so we're starting out with basically a client that has
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been bombarded with all the drug ads, all the food
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advertising for the commercial foods, and when you try to
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explain this to people, quite often they don't have any
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understanding delay they don't really have that open mind. They've
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never they're being Basically, I looked at it when I
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would get a blame new client like that, and I
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basically have to say everything that you've been taught so far,
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you've been wrong. And now I got to move to
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the other side of the table and say here's how
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we can help you. And I'm sure you run into
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the same thing.
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Yeah, we just approached a little bit differently. It's just
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that we have grown up in a world where we
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model what we see around us. And so if your
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parents taught or fed kibble, and then you go to
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the grocery store and that's all you see and no
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one's told you anything differently, then that's going to be
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your belief system. And belief systems are bs.
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But someone but that's right.
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So now, but people, I find that people in today's world,
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especially post COVID, are really becoming a lot more awakened
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and a lot more educated. And we all make mistakes.
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I'm heck, my first fifteen years in practice, we were
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recommending process bet food because we came out of that
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school being taught by these companies that that was good nutrition.
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And until something happens in our life, we don't tend
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to question the BS. We just continue with the belief
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system until something happens that shakes the foundation of that
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belief system and makes you think, oh my gosh, maybe
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that's not right anymore. And like you said, we've entered
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a much more toxic world. So now I find that
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PET parents that are coming to me have already experienced
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the relapses, the health failures, the cancers, and they're becoming
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educated that we need to think differently, we need to
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behave differently, and so they're looking for different answers. They
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don't want the pharmaceutical answer necessarily. And that's not to
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say that both worlds don't have a place, because they do.
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God forbid, we're in an accident, you would be very
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appreciative that that hospital is there and they have the technology,
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equipment and medications to help save your life. But when
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it comes to preventative health care, we need to come
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back to a foundation, which is what are we eating,