You Feeding Your Pets Natural Foods? Are They Really Natural?

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Any health related information on the following
show provides general information only. Content presented

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on any show by any host or
guests should not be substituted for a doctor's

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advice. Always consult your physician before
beginning any new diet, exercise, or

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treatment program. Then now it's time
for Pet Health Cafe, where your pet

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has a voice. And here's your
host, Bill the Pet Health Guru,

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and welcome to Pet Health Cafe to
show where your pet his voice is to

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build a pet health Guru, along
with my special guest host, doctor Michael

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dam How are we doing, Doc, I'm doing well. Bill. How

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about yourself? Oh, just craziness
as always, you know how that is?

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Yep, yep, crazy busy,
right, yeah, and it's but

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some of the stuff is getting far
more and more saying, I know tonight

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we're going to talk a little bit
about hurricane season starting, and you know,

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people just need to be prepared for
that, you know, make sure

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you get extra food and you know, a crate or a carrier, you

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know, the usual type of things, extra water. It's just the same

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as for us, isn't it.
Absolutely sure? You know, and then

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of course, you know, we
can't forget the herbal and homeopathic emergency kits

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as well. Yeah, yeah,
because I mean, you know, they

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you know, have to worry about
the anxiety and you know when that comes

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along, you know, different things
like diarrhea and vomiting and laws of appetite,

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you know, just the usual everyday
things that we deal with, right,

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right, so we can't forget in
those those storms, you know,

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and you know power can be out
for lengths of time or you know,

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our animals are affected the same way. Hopefully people won't get caught in the

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well, they need their shops to
go to for people, God forbid that

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enough to go to a shelter or
something like that, I know, you

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know, just like just like the
boarding facilities and the grooming boarding and the

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doge daycares, you know, they
just a lot of times they require proof

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of those vaccines exactly. And you
know it's in a case of an emergency

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like that, you know, they
are to be at least a little bit

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sensible, not necessarily reasonable, with
at least sensible. Yeah, yeah,

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it really need to be sensible.
Yeah. And of course you know on

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on the you know, on the
homeopathics and the urables and of course the

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food it's a matter of stocking up
ahead of time. And um, you

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know, those that feed raw,
they kind of feel a little bit more

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vulnerable because if the power goes out, there, freezer goes out. And

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um, of course we do do
at biocompletely have a line of dehydrated that

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are sold primarily as treats. But
those those can be a complete meal a

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meat be can't. Oh yeah,
sure, And you know that's wonderful you

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have such a resource like that.
Yeah. And the and the other thing

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is always I tell them is you
know, if if let's say the power

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goes out, keep your freezer,
you know, closed, you know,

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as long as you can. And
with such starts, you know, when

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the when the food starts to thaw
out and get to a point where you

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just have to get rid of stuff. Um, let them do a gorge.

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Feed them everything you can and they
will gorge themselves, right and won't

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And then they're good for three four
days after that, aren't they? Yeah?

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Sure? I mean, look and
the wild that's what wild carnivores do.

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They catch, you know, they
have a great day and hunting and

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catching their prey and then they can
go a few days without without catching it,

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so you know, certainly we can
mimic that if needed, you know,

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during some of these weather emergencies.
Yea. And of course you know

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plenty of good healthy water. And
you know when I talk about healthy water,

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now we're talking about living one.
You know, ionized um, because

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that's going to help you out tremendously
as a as a powerful antioxidant. And

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just keeping rehydrated because you know,
the stress can cause you to dehydrate,

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absolutely sure. So um. You
know with that, with that, a

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little bit of housekeeping under the under
the carpet, if you will. Um.

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I want to talk a little bit
about labeling and you know the terms

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that are being used in the food
industry, not just the pet rood industry,

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but the food industry in general.
And you know, everybody thinks they're

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feeding a natural diet or a raw
diet. You know. One that drugs

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me the craziest is this so called
freeze style dried raw. Well, if

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you freeze, right, it is
it raw? No, sure, it

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isn't. I mean it's it's maybe
not as processed as the canned in the

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in the kidball, but it's not
a fresh raw diet, that's for sure.

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No. I mean, you know
they had you know, they have

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these little like medallions, like you
know, like little patties of freeze dried

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food. Well, did you ever
try to throw on those and you know,

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a freeze dride burger in a pan
and try to fry it on a

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grill. No, it doesn't work
out at very well at all. Um

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So, but yet that's's that's one
of the terms that's being thrown around out

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there in banning. And of course
with it, they always throw on um

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natural and which is one of the
things that you know, everybody thinks they're

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buying all this natural stuff. And
so I went to the FDA and USDA

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and Food Safety and Inspection Service and
they find the legal definition of natural and

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it says it's a product containing no
artificial ingredients or added color and his only

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minimally process um. And the minimal
processing means it doesn't that doesn't affect it

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fundamentally. Um. That's kind of
a it's it's it's specific, but I've

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never seen it applied or followed,
have you, No, not at all.

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And that's such a general broad definition
that's open for a lot of interpretation

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by companies that call themselves natural for
sure. Well that's that's the other interesting

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thing is if a company uses the
name uh natural, and I don't I

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can use you know, I don't
normally refer to as company names. But

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a company like Newman's Organic, which
is the name of the company, and

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everybody just assumed that every product that
they ever put out was organic, and

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you know, there's nothing farther from
the truth. Yeah, yeah, I

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mean the typical ingredients, right,
Bill, I mean that's your expertise,

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of course. What are the ingredients
that are listed on Newman's Organic foods?

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Yeah, I mean you you know, you look at you know, I

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mean it's like in their pet foods
and stuff like that, and you may

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have a couple of organic ingredients,
but in general, the bulkley ingredients aren't

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aren't organic. And of course you
then also have you know, organic kibble

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that's processed absolutely just in nature of
being kibble, it's processed. I don't

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know how they can call it an
organic kibble. But certainly that market,

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that industry, as you know,
is so expanded in recent decades. Just

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take a walk into any quote unquote
natural pet store, right, and such

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a huge variety of quote unquote natural
products that can be you know, very

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intimidating to you know, an animal
guardian looking to feed really the ideal food.

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Yeah, I mean if you're standing
there and you know, of course,

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most consumers have been indoctrinated into feeding
only a pet food, which you

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know, a pet food is not
even a food, is actually a feed,

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which is another whole definition in itself. But you know, they naturally

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think, too Kimmel, and there's
no such thing. You know, they

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can make all the claims they want
minimally processed or low heat process or you

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know, human grade ingredients. Um, you know, we talk about this

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all the time, even human grade. I mean you can go from industrial

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beef to you know, the best
super steaks available out there, you know,

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Wa Goo or Colby beef and things
of that nature. You know,

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and you know, a thousand dollars
orteen hundred dollars for one steak. There's

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a big, big difference in not
only the quality of the food, but

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what the nutrients are, the nutrient
content, how it's handled. All of

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these have to be a part of
what should be, you know, explain

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to the consumer. Shouldn't it absolutely
should be and certainly not going to get

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that explanation from their local veterinarian who
they often go to for nutritional expertise.

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And you know, I saw a
client, excuse me, the other day

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that was in the waiting room and
the dog came in with a little bit

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of diarrhea of vomiting, and the
client was lectured because she was feeding a

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raw diet. And you know,
it just amazes me how just to diverge

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for a second. It just amazes
me how an animal can have a little

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bit of vomiting and diarrhea, a
little detoxification and immediately the western medical you

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know, veterinarian is putting down a
raw diet and and God only knows how

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many vomiting and diarrhea cases are coming
in from toxicity and from feeding the processed

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commercial kibbles that we're talking about here. And it's just amazing to me,

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you know, the lack of knowledge
from you know, like we've talked about

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the medical personnel that animal guardians still
holding, you know, kind of a

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godlike image, bunch of them.
Yeah, I mean it's amazing. I

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mean when then when you stop and
think about kid, because you've been in

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practice for a long long time,
I won't mention the years, you know,

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because we're not getting any younger.
But um, the bulk of you

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know, well, I know by
industry standards that somewhere's between um eighty and

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eighty five percent of all pets,
canines and similar in felines are basically fed

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a kibble diet. And of course
we know you and I know um that

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those are loaded with all kinds of
chemicals and toxins and that sort of thing.

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And when you when you're presented in
the clinic, and especially the allopathic

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clinics, and you're seeing everything from
vomiting which you just mentioned in diarrhea,

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but also the ear ear infections and
discharges, the eye discharges um, the

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skin issues, the poblic and shoeing, even anal glands um. Those are

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all forms of the same detoxification process
that the allopathic veticin concerned about. What

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raw food isn't it absolutely sure is. And you know it's you know,

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when animals are having these chronic issues, it's it's the opposite. It's it's

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toxicity, not detoxicity. So when
we see not detoxifications, So when we

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see our animals who go on raw
diets kind of cleanse themselves of all those

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toxins. It's only gonna be natural. They're going to get a little diarrhea,

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a little vomiting. But animals eating
these kibbles and process canned foods,

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they're getting vomiting and diarrhea from toxicity
of the of those ingredients you just mentioned.

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It's exactly true, and of course
those other you know, the chronic

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symptoms that we see. That's the
body actually trying to detoxify itself. But

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because of the additives that they add
into especially the kibbles, but now so

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much in the canned foods, the
stool hardening agents and basically anti vomiting type

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of ingredients, it has to manifest
itself in a different way, which is

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the skin problem, the ear problem, the discharge, isn't it absolutely or

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anything outside you know, the gut, you know, you know, as

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the gut becomes in flame and leaky, we can see problems in any organ

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system you know, you mentioned skinny
ears, behavior, respiratory tract, urinary

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tract, any any body system is
fairy aime, you know. The toxicity

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takes hold once once these toxins get
into the system, and of course that

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causes basically a chronic inflammatory condition in
the whole animal, which is going to

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interrupt the whole the whole system.
The whole system is breaking down and just

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trying to survive, isn't it.
Yeah. Yeah, And then you know,

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of course allopathic medicine we come along
and we have them suppress localized effects,

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localized discharges, localized you know,
body's attempt at detoxifying, and then

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the body just gets sicker as those
imbalances either go to other areas in the

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body, or as the body tries
its best to push these things to the

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outside, or unfortunately, if the
body loses that battle and gets overwhelmed,

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then we're seeing deeper disease and then
even cancer ultimately. Yeah. Well,

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I was looking at I saw an
ever ad for another new line of raw

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diet, commercial diet put out by
a veterinarian that's just owing. I mean,

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he's so into this. And when
I'm looking at the ingredient label,

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it's loaded with different vegetable matter,
adding in things like beef blood, and

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I'm trend think some of the other
ingredient there was something of the other really

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weird ingredients. All of these recipes. If it's a beef, if it's

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a beef point that it always has
mackerel in it, you know, and

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fish, and he's adding in some
mushrooms and different herbs and botanicals, not

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very many, but something like help. And then he's adding in a supplement

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for zinc and for iron. It's
like they still don't get that if you're

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feeding a good quality you know,
naturally raised, truly naturally raised um,

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protein source, meat source, animal
source for those animals, aren't all those

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stuff in that already? Sure,
you know? And that gets into the

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line that you know, I think
it taps into also the big industry of

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you know, nutrients and nutrient quote
unquote deficiencies and excess and they and often

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I guess the you know, in
this case, the veterinarian and of course

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the nutraceutical business feels that, you
know, basically, we can add back

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these these ingredients, these minerals and
in a non in a non evolutionary way

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and get the same effects as you
do when it's naturally in the food.

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Well, when we're looking at okay, and of course by the topic,

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is your food really natural? Um? When we look at our dogs and

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cats. According to the veterinary industry
and of course the food industry, that's

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complicit with them is that our dogs
and cats are the only creatures on the

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face of the earth that have to
have a synthetically man made diet in order

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to survive. That's right, but
just survive, isn't it true? It

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is true, and that's what the
that's what most of the animals in this

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country are being fed. It's just, you know, when it comes out

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to common sense, Bill, like
you said, I mean, all the

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other species are trying to eat,
you know what we evolve to eat,

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at least in an ideal circumstance.
But when we force these artificial, you

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know, processed diets on our animals
and call that a complete and balanced diet,

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it's just, you know, I
just shake my head and say,

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how do my colleagues actually justify that? And it's a brainwashing process, and

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in the medical school training, in
the continuing education where these huge pet food

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companies come along and literally brain wash
the veterinarians and the public directly and indirectly

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that this is the way we need
to feed our animals it, you know.

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the food company, you know,
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natural and all natural ingredients, and
um, you know that couldn't be further

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from the truth. I mean every
time ever that the definition was clear.

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If there's any processing, if there's
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they can't they can't claim to be
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where is the um, you know, the oversight of it. Who's watching,

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Who's watching what these people are doing? Insane? Yeah? Yeah,

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there is, there is no regulation
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whatever they want. Correct, Yeah, pretty much. Well, I mean

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equal either're nots opposed to. But
you know, um, who's going to

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question a veterinarian you know, or
or an animal hospital? Okay? Um,

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you know until just recent years,
nutrition wasn't a part of the veterinary

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trade, was it? No,
not at all? Still really isn't.

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I mean, the training of veterinarians
and nutrition is minimal at best. And

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as I said, they're kind of
corralled into these pet food companies, you

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know, rhetoric and brainwashing that you
know, these various commercial and prescription foods

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are what our animals need to be
healthy. I mean, I mean I

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hear colleagues all the time recommending common
grocery store, commercial foods, and I

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just want to vomit myself when I
hear, you know, these recommendations and

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they say it with such demonstrative a
knowing, you know, and an egoic

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knowing, and nothing could be further
from the truth. Well, you know,

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especially when they some of the old
timers, I'm really amazed because you

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know, they're you know, they're
going like, oh, yeah, I've

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fed my dog x y z all
my dogs have always ate it. They've

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all done very very well, right
up till the very end. And then

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you ask them, Okay, when
you started in practice, what was the

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average lifespan of a dog, you
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What are they today? You're giving
him a seniors head blood work at

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four years old, five years old, six years old. I mean,

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it's it's nuts. And if they
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fourteen, those animals are just chronically
sick. Then they're just being bandated

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with the whole menagerie of drugs,
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back here on a Pet Health Cafe
to show where your pet's voice. This

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is Bill the Pet Health gool Rule, along with doctor and Michael dem and

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we're talking about this the labeling problems
and you know, some of the ingredients

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and so called natural foods, and
you know, it's it's like, well,

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I mean when we look at some
of the symptoms that we see out

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there, of these toxicities and the
fact that it's not a natural diet,

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you know, lumps and bumps,
many tumors, fan cell tumors, all

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of that. That's like part of
a healthy animal today, isn't it.

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That's right. I mean, I
can't tell you Bill how many times I've

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heard, you know, colleagues saying, oh, that's just a fatty tumor

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or like poma. It's normal for
a middle age older animal to have warts

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and skin tags and dental disease,
especially in the little breeds. You know,

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that's just quote unquote normal. It's
quote unquote normal for a cocker spaniel

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right to have gunky ears because either
they have because of the shape of their

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ears. You know, I love
that explanation, Orbitius. They went swimming,

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Yeah, it was either with somebody
the other day and I was thinking

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about that. Um, you know, all the dog must have gotten you

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know, he was swimming in the
pool. It must be out water in

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his ears. Well, in the
wild, I think that wolves and foxes

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and coyotes and other members of the
canine family swim across rivers and streams and

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caught in crrential downpours, and and
yet they don't suffer from them. No,

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no, of course not. It's
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even if I you know, when
clients asked me about that, I said,

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well, think of all the animals
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the ocean and never have an ear
infection. So does that mean the pool

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in the ocean is the cause of
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I mean, it's just, you
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me, where you look at what
you and I talk about on many different

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perspectives, that it's just all one
and the same. It's just you know,

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toxins trying to come out of the
body the animal having trouble removing those

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toxins and then being troubled with chronic
ongoing skin and ear problems, or as

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you mentioned a few minutes ago,
the tendency to develop lumps and bumps and

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skin tags and even worse. Yeah, I mean, it's you know,

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and everyone we start to look at
some of the products that are you know,

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that are there um you know,
it's you know, all of almost

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all of these synthetic vitamins today that
they add to these commercial foods. Obviously

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they're not natural. A lot of
them are derived from things like soy and

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corn oil, which is horrible in
itself, isn't it absolutely you know,

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probably you know, processed you know, grains and and as you said,

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soy, I mean not what our
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or ingesting. And and it's and
it's interesting too that a lot of

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the you know, sometimes they'll use
um terminology or poul like in the supplement

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field, we look in at different
vitamins, but they're not a naturally sourced

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vitamin. It's made in a lab, so you know it, you know,

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vitamin E is in a lot of
different things like fish oils, and it

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can be in soil oil, it
can be in um, you know,

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corn oil, the women is corn
oil and salmon oil and um you know

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soy oil. Those are natural products
to start with, those royal process aren't

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they. Yeah, they sure are
not hardly hardly fresh, fresh ingredients.

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So I'm confused. Now, how
can it be natural vitamin E that's made

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from a synthetic It doesn't make any
sense, doesn't go No, it's total

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it's total fraud. Basically, it's
misrepresentation. And unfortunately, you know,

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we as humans and of course especially
our paths are the ones that really suffer

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because the pets can't tell you when
you give it that supplement that oh,

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I've got an upset stomach, unless
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And then how could it be the
natural vitamin I mean, that's to

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help him. It wouldn't make him
have diarrhea, would it? Talk?

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No, right, exactly, you
know, and then the vets says,

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of course, no, I mean
that's not the cause of the problem.

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You know, it's you know,
and you just look at look at those

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you know, like you talk about
those the vitamins that are now you know,

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just take the ingredient label of any
of those pet foods, right,

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I mean not just the supplements,
but just the pet foods, all those

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ingredients, all of those you know, natural vitamins to coffer rolls and preserve

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a vitamin E. And you know
they've they think they're tricking the public in

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ways that they are by telling by
saying it's naturally preserved. Membery years ago

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used to have a thoxyquin list of
the BH and BHT. Right now we

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don't see those ingredients listen anymore because
they quote unquote they're preserved naturally. The

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issue, especially especially the exosquin,
and of course that was used in a

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lot of the salmon and the fish
based products, is the labeling law change,

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the ingredient law change that. Now
that we have factory fish uh fishing

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boats, basically they do all the
processing on the boat itself. I believe

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it is as long as they are
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add in the ethoxyquin and never label
it. That's right. I remember reading

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that. Yes, I mean,
and that that goes on. I'm sure

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today. Oh we are still goes
on every day. Um, that's why

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we don't see the ethoxyquin listed on
the labels anymore. Yeah, and that

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was a known carcinogen and other you
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That ingredient got at least some press
like that. Now they're finding ways around

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it through what you just mentioned about
the fishing. Yeah. Um, it's

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it's you know, we have to
use a lot of common sense and this

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stuff. That's that's probably the biggest
thing that we get into our clients as

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you know, stop and think your
animal isn't is a natural being. It's

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you know, it was created by
God nature however you want to view it.

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But it's it's a part of this
planet and all its nutritional needs are

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going to be met by what's already
on this planet. It's it's, it's

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it's the it's the cycle of life, isn't it truly? Yeah? Sure

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is. And when you talk about
common sense, I tell clients all the

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time, just go into the supermarket
or go into your veterinarian's office and just

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grab a bag or it can off
the shelf that they're selling for astronomical prices

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for all sorts of different you know
medical conditions labeled for medical conditions. Just

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take a begg or it can and
just read the label and see if you

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can understand what the ingredients are.
And most of the time they INGREDI I

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don't even understand half the ingredients.
You you know, you probably can dissect

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them out, but you know,
I look at the ingredients and if I

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don't understand what they're putting in the
food, then it's not something I want

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to be giving to my animals.
So you know, you don't need to

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have a food science major to be
or a food science degree to really see

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that. And it's amazing when you
look at a look I mean, if

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we take a look at just a
meat products themselves, you know, the

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only listing really let's say if it's
a beef product that I can just put

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beef on there and it could be
any parts of that animal. I do

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not have to be descripts um A
lot of companies will. I mean we

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do when we when we package our
biocomplete line, because I want people to

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know that we're using you know things
like you know, high metabolic energy and

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great you know parts like the heart, uh, the you know, the

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good organ meat deliveral uh sometimes spleen
or kidneys, because these are you know,

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when you start looking into the real
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they need these other parts, and
it's up to us to be able to

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provide that, um, you know, and have the clients, the pet

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parents know that we're trying to do
our best to come up with the basically

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a prey model what they would eat
in nature, and in the amounts that

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they would eat in nature. You
know, there aren't set rules, you

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know, the eight ten ten rule
or you know some of the other things.

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It's just it's it's it's becomes so
if lack of another word, can

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you know we have to have a
specific recipe for everything. Yeah, yeah,

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there's no specific recipes in nature,
you know, not at all.

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I mean, we we create different
chronic disease conditions of different body parts,

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whether it's urinary, skin, um, digestive. We create diseases and then

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we develop these artificial diets to try
and solve those diseases. Isn't that the

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most asinine thing you could possibly if
you think about it that way, I

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mean, it's just mind boggling.
I mean, and and you know,

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these these process commercial foods come in
and they may ban the you know,

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you're ary problem or a bowel problem. But boy, those quality of those

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ingredients and what's in there is going
to lead to all sorts of other problems.

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So that animal who goes on a
urinary diet or a bladder diet,

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you know, to prevent crystals and
stones. Those are the animals I see

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that eventually developed kidney failure. Yeah, yeah, this is exactly right.

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I mean, we were talking on
a previous show about you know that the

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complete and balance claims on these natural
diets that you know, if you feed

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too much or too little, it's
no longer complete and balance. No,

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I don't know, it's it's and
of course, if you're feeding the same

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food day in, day out,
and it doesn't matter even if it's natural

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needs, you're going to create certain
deficiencies because no single food can be complete

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with a dynamic body, can it. No, not at all. That's

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why you know you're you know,
the model you ascribe to with the stool

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were and that you know we preach
is that rotating varied protein diet because in

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the wild, that's what these animals
are getting. They're not getting the same

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thing day in and day out.
Yeah. And of course, then if

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you're looking at the fact that the
matter is is it's not a natural um

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vitamate ingredient or a mental ingredient,
chances ought it's not being utilized anyway.

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And in many cases it ends up
getting if the body doesn't recognize it,

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it stores it in fat cell,
so then we end up with a more

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obese animal. Um You know that
when we do finally go through that detox,

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we're releasing all those toxins in those
fat cells back into the bloodstream.

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And what does that cause? Yeah, yeah, diarrhea, vomiting, skin

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eruptions, discharge discharges from the body. The body's doing what it's supposed to

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do. Yea. And so you
know, when we when we talk natural,

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I mean we really mean what would
we what would we eat? What

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would they eat in nature? Right? Exactly when the animals, you know,

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attack those prey in the in the
wild, they are getting those spleens

406
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and livers and kidneys and organ meat, you know, along with the muscle

407
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.719
meat, right and the bones.
You know, that's the the other thing.

408
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.239
You know, how many we can
talk a little bit more about that,

409
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.559
I mean, how many conventional veterinarians
are telling don't give animals any bones.

410
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.599
Yeah, they're gonna get problems.
Yes, I know. And it's

411
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like, don't give them aide.
Probably the most complete food on the face

412
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.000
of the earth. You know,
it's a great, great biological value of

413
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protein. Absolutely. Okay, we're
at this next break. Let's take this

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And we're back at health Cafe to
show where your pet has a voice.

440
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This is built the Pet Health Gurule
along with doctor Michael them. Um.

441
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.599
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up
the bone thing, um, because

442
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.679
that's a you know, that's an
interesting thing. I mean, that's again

443
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:22.920
another truly natural product that they would
eat in nature. And you know,

444
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.159
one of the big problems that we
see in so many animals today, of

445
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.760
course, are dental problems. Um, you know, because they're not they're

446
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.039
not you know, the bones are
not scraping those teeth clean. They don't

447
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.039
have the meat enzymes to break down
the tartar. But one of the other

448
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.840
big things is all the joint problems
that we have. And in order to

449
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:46.119
build cartilage, what ingredient? What
food you have to feed to build cartilage?

450
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:53.719
Yeah? Healthy cartilage exactly. Yeah. And you know, and then

451
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:59.039
when you look at you know,
marrow bones, Okay, that's stem cells,

452
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.039
isn't it. It sure is,
it's exactly what you know, the

453
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.400
body's going to utilize that and develop
healthy bones and joints exactly. Yeah.

454
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:13.559
Um, it's it's it's nuts.
You know, but you know, it's

455
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.559
interesting. It's like you know,
they you know when part of the you

456
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.760
know, it's like, oh my
god, he's eating a raw diet with

457
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.960
raw bones. You know, we
had to take an X ray to make

458
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.199
sure he's not blocked or obstructed.
And you know, how often do we

459
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:31.119
ever see that when animals are eating
species appropriate raw meat diets with you know,

460
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.079
with bone bone ingredients. I mean, I don't know, I'd never

461
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.320
see obstructions from that. No.
And I mean, and you know,

462
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:44.159
of course, the other common thing
that they throw out there is it can

463
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:51.679
rip up the intestine um. You
know, it's it's being digested, even

464
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:57.800
a sharp bone, I mean,
to penetrate the intestinal wall um to a

465
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.719
great extent. Is that's like like
an inner tube in a tire. It

466
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.800
expands, but the puncture it isn't
easy, is it. No? Not

467
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.159
at all exactly. I mean,
you've got you've gotta be I mean,

468
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.960
if you're a surgeon and doing something
with the gut, you've got to really

469
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.840
work at it, don't you That's
true. I mean, you know,

470
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.480
the only problems I see with bones
and when they're cooked, you know,

471
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.880
that's when they splinter and and have
problems. But the raw bones themselves,

472
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.880
I never see problems with it.
Yeah, I mean, I mean the

473
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.079
worst problems I ever saw with bones, and they've always been cooked. Um

474
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:36.800
are usually like turkey leg bones and
sometimes chicken league one, but chicken or

475
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.440
unless it's a tiny dog. But
the biggest problem is when they're dried out

476
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:45.559
like that, they're hollow and they
get stuck on their teeth. That's true,

477
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.320
that's true. Good point. You
know, uh, you know the

478
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.360
canine tooth goes right through it.
And now what do I do. I'm

479
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.920
walking around with his bone hanging out
of my mouth. Mom. Yeah,

480
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.519
yeah, good points, Bill.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean that

481
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.280
cartilage and that marrow is especially,
I mean those are essential nutrients. And

482
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:12.320
um, you know, in when
you look at a commercial food and all

483
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.159
even to you all natural ones and
even in the all natural raw meat ones,

484
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.400
they're not including any of this stuff
in there. No, not at

485
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.480
all. And what about your people
will say, well, I want to

486
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.719
give my dogs bones, but let's
get them raw hides and all these other

487
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:32.320
treated processed chemicals you know, imitation
bones right well, And you know,

488
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.719
I mean I go back far enough
in the industry when raw hide was actually

489
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.280
a safe, a safe and a
truly natural product because all they were taking

490
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:47.360
is what's known as a split,
which is the inside of the high which

491
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:54.599
is collagen, and that would be
air dried you know, um, and

492
00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:00.599
cut into strips soaked in water.
I didn't the knots on the two ends

493
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.639
or whatever sizes you wanted, read
dried in the sun, and that's all

494
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.880
it want. And then of course, as the man went up, you

495
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:15.199
know, chemical more chemicals were being
used in more mechanical processes, and the

496
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.519
chemicals that they started using, um, the US government did not want those

497
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.239
used in the United States, so
they shipped everything to China. MM.

498
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.480
And of course who knows what they're
using there? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

499
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.760
Chinese China exported important I mean into
our country. Yeah. God only

500
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.719
knows what those ingredients are. Yeah. And when you look at it,

501
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.360
you know, when we're looking at
it at even uh, you know,

502
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.800
the natural supplements that are added to
the food again, those are all coming

503
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:52.920
from China. UM. You know
I saw a number recently that UM,

504
00:41:53.679 --> 00:42:02.480
the that they're they're allowing Chinese products
to use usd A certified organic stickers as

505
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.199
long as it says so on the
paperwork when it comes into the country.

506
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:14.679
There is absolutely no inspection in China, right right, and yet it's important

507
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:20.079
with those labels. That's amazing ye
so um. And of course look at

508
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.920
you know, on the alepathic side, all the drugs. What was it

509
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.519
the figure I saw something like ninety
or ninety five percent of all antibiotics now

510
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.039
are coming out of China. Yeah, yeah, I think it's that You're

511
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.880
right, it's that high. It's
the majority of drugs coming from these countries

512
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.920
where there's very little regulation, very
little. Yeah. I mean, even

513
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.960
even with our partnership with some some
other countries like India. It India has

514
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:52.559
a shortage of the components to make
their pharmaceuticals because those come from China.

515
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:59.599
Also amazing, it really is.
So. I mean you talk about,

516
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.840
know you've talked about in other shows, the you know, the supplements that

517
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.960
people are giving the animals that you
know have natural you know, they say

518
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:12.559
have natural ingredients from not only for
the issues you're talking about here, but

519
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:16.559
I know you've mentioned in previous shows
about all the additives and the fillers and

520
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.760
all of that to just to make
a supplement. Yeah, the anti stick

521
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.559
agents, the anti caking agents,
the lubricants, sometimes flavors have got to

522
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.239
be added because animals can sense that, you know, these things are not

523
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.239
good for them. And you know, I mean, how many clients over

524
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.400
the years have you heard, I
can't get my dog a pill. There's

525
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.159
the reason. The dog is smarter
than the veterinarian. I'm sorry. And

526
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:45.760
then you know the conventional that movement
into the holistic business that they call themselves.

527
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.760
You know, when they say they're
going naturally, you know, they're

528
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:53.840
adding you know, they have these
probiotics that are just processed, you know,

529
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:59.400
process to the max with dead bacteria, and then calling that a probiotic

530
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.719
gut, and then coming up with
these joint supplements that are quite expensive or

531
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.400
products that they say are good for
the liver, you know, that are

532
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.880
just basically processed milk, thistle and
sammy glued together and you know, package

533
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.320
and flavorings and all of that,
and they call that holistic supplements natural supplements.

534
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.440
It's just amazing. Yeah, I
mean, it's it's um. You

535
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.199
know, we have to watch the
buzzwords and you know, naturally processed,

536
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.480
natural, you know, natural ingredients. Um, all those are you know

537
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:38.480
a kind of you know, almost
a warning label in many many scents,

538
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.320
and it's you know, it's like
even with the beef. You know,

539
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.960
we went from all all beef was
grass fed and grass finished for the most

540
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:52.880
part, and then they allow grain
finishing and they change the standard um that

541
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.960
they could use fifty nine days and
so called grass fed. And then you

542
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:00.519
know, now they're finding that they
can make pellets using grass but also binders

543
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:06.119
and fillers in vitamins and say that
it's grass finished, but it's really not.

544
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.039
So you need really look at it. You know, you have to

545
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.599
go to a natural pasture. And
then you're hoping that that wasn't treated with

546
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.599
chemicals, which it is hard to
find these days, that's for sure.

547
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.039
Yeah, it is. It's you
know, and and the funny thing is

548
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.760
it's when you really look truly at
um, you know, the or you

549
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.760
know, the definition of organic.
It's impossible to have a truly organic product

550
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.840
today unless it's grown in basically a
bubble, which that doesn't fit into the

551
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:45.199
organic um definition anyway, because of
the chemtrails and the experience for mosquitos and

552
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.199
zeke. I mean, I was
driving home tonight and they're saying it's mosquito

553
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.960
season and look for the truck because
looks for the plane, you know,

554
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.599
I know, God, it's just
just amping up now right in May into

555
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.920
June and July, and mosquito spraying
is going to be out full force.

556
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.119
Yeah, you know up north.
Don't worry, they're going to be out

557
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.679
in July and August for you.
So you combine that, like you said,

558
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.840
with the chemtrails, and we've got
to you know, with other that

559
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.760
go on year round. Yeah,
it's just a toxic soup. So that's

560
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.360
why it's so important, you know, to get back to the topic of

561
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:27.920
the show. It's so so important
to really just feed a species appropriate you

562
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.159
know, rotating predatory type diet and
not get caught up in all these you

563
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.599
know, different h gimmicks and schemes
to mimic that. Yeah, and you

564
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.840
know, I mean, and you
know we've got to put about three minutes

565
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.679
here. Um, it's no more
difficult with you know, when you've got

566
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:52.800
companies like our sponsor, Biocomplete,
you know, natural Diets and my paleopat

567
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.840
and in the stores that carry the
products. Um, it's no more difficult

568
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.920
to feed than any other thing.
I mean, you take it out it's

569
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.000
in serving sizes for the day.
You pop up with a container and then

570
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:08.239
you're done, all right, you
knows. You know most of us feed

571
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.880
right under the container, so you
don't even have to wash the dogs dish.

572
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.679
There is no dish. There is
no dish. That's right. It's

573
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.719
a good point. And you know
people that claim, oh it's too expensive

574
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.599
this vers that. But you know
these commercial pet foods, especially the prescription

575
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.400
ones at the vet office, you
know, if you break it down how

576
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.639
much you're feeding, you know,
they want you of course to feed.

577
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.639
You know, on the labels of
these foods, they they're astronomically feeding huge

578
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:38.199
amounts of food so that they can
gain weight and and get heavy. Um.

579
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:42.440
You know it's expensive to feed those
foods. Yeah, they are.

580
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.840
They're they're actually actually feeding wall can
be actually less expensive than at two minutes

581
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.880
doctor dim. So where can people
reach you? Well, they can reach

582
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.760
me and can go to my website
which is doctordim dot com. That's d

583
00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.559
O C T O R D y
M dot com or one word that information

584
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.760
on my practice, my email,
contact information and you know phone number and

585
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.159
most of my work is done by
a lot of it's done by telemedicine local

586
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.000
house calls here in Palm Beach County. But you know, certainly UM encourage

587
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.760
clients if they have any concerns chronic
health issues, certainly give us a call

588
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.239
YEP. And of course you can
reach me at my Paleopet and Pet Health

589
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:32.000
Guru and UM you know, through
the Pet Health Cafe social media sites and

590
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:40.480
just to kind of warn people that
UM beginning either we'll have announcements up there

591
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:50.320
new week. Check our Pet Health
Cafe Facebook page and my Paleo Pet and

592
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.159
I'm sure doctor Demmi it will be
up on your pages as well. We

593
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.760
will be changing the show in the
very near future. We will be going

594
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:02.280
to a TV format, which is
exciting, and we'll put you we'll post

595
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.000
the announcements as soon as everything is
finalized this week and we hope to see

596
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:15.320
there. One of the interesting things
is they'll be availability forum us to get

597
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.960
questions from our listeners, which we
haven't been able to do on radio because

598
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.719
it's got to be censored. So
we'll have a lot of new exciting things

599
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.760
coming up, So you know,
go to us, go to our YouTube

600
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:32.440
channel, which will be the radio
or the TV show itself. UM listen

601
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.960
to the Pet Health Cafe on podcast. Make sure you'll like us and share

602
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.440
it all over the place. Um, so we got to going on doctor

603
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.960
dem sounds wonderful, bill sounds exciting
future. Yes, it is so.

604
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.480
Here we are another hour we filled
with something. We always managed to get

605
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.880
through it. But thank you everybody
for listening, and we hope this you'll

606
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:01.639
be able to actually see real people. Oh and our upcoming shows, So

607
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:21.719
thank you for listening and continue success
with us. Good night everybody. How

608
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:29.000
healthy is your pet? Does your
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