You Feeding Your Pets Natural Foods? Are They Really Natural?

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your pet has a voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and welcome to Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet his voice is to build a pet health Guru, along with my special guest host, doctor Michael dam How are we doing, Doc, I'm doing well. Bill. How about yourself? Oh, just craziness as always, you know how that is?

0:52 Yep, yep, crazy busy, right, yeah, and it's but some of the stuff is getting far more and more saying, I know tonight we're going to talk a little bit about hurricane season starting, and you know, people just need to be prepared for that, you know, make sure you get extra food and you know, a crate or a carrier, you know, the usual type of things, extra water. It's just the same as for us, isn't it. Absolutely sure? You know, and then of course, you know, we can't forget the herbal and homeopathic emergency kits as well. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, you know, they you know, have to worry about the anxiety and you know when that comes along, you know, different things like diarrhea and vomiting and laws of appetite, you know, just the usual everyday things that we deal with, right, right, so we can't forget in those those storms, you know, and you know power can be out for lengths of time or you know, our animals are affected the same way. Hopefully people won't get caught in the well, they need their shops to go to for people, God forbid that enough to go to a shelter or something like that, I know, you know, just like just like the boarding facilities and the grooming boarding and the doge daycares, you know, they just a lot of times they require proof of those vaccines exactly. And you know it's in a case of an emergency like that, you know, they are to be at least a little bit sensible, not necessarily reasonable, with at least sensible. Yeah, yeah,

2:28 it really need to be sensible. Yeah. And of course you know on on the you know, on the homeopathics and the urables and of course the food it's a matter of stocking up ahead of time. And um, you know, those that feed raw, they kind of feel a little bit more vulnerable because if the power goes out, there, freezer goes out. And um, of course we do do at biocompletely have a line of dehydrated that are sold primarily as treats. But those those can be a complete meal a meat be can't. Oh yeah, sure, And you know that's wonderful you have such a resource like that. Yeah. And the and the other thing is always I tell them is you know, if if let's say the power goes out, keep your freezer, you know, closed, you know, as long as you can. And with such starts, you know, when the when the food starts to thaw out and get to a point where you just have to get rid of stuff. Um, let them do a gorge.

3:25 Feed them everything you can and they will gorge themselves, right and won't And then they're good for three four days after that, aren't they? Yeah? Sure? I mean, look and the wild that's what wild carnivores do. They catch, you know, they have a great day and hunting and catching their prey and then they can go a few days without without catching it, so you know, certainly we can mimic that if needed, you know, during some of these weather emergencies. Yea. And of course you know plenty of good healthy water. And you know when I talk about healthy water, now we're talking about living one. You know, ionized um, because that's going to help you out tremendously as a as a powerful antioxidant. And just keeping rehydrated because you know, the stress can cause you to dehydrate, absolutely sure. So um. You know with that, with that, a little bit of housekeeping under the under the carpet, if you will. Um.

4:26 I want to talk a little bit about labeling and you know the terms that are being used in the food industry, not just the pet rood industry, but the food industry in general. And you know, everybody thinks they're feeding a natural diet or a raw diet. You know. One that drugs me the craziest is this so called freeze style dried raw. Well, if you freeze, right, it is it raw? No, sure, it isn't. I mean it's it's maybe not as processed as the canned in the in the kidball, but it's not a fresh raw diet, that's for sure. No. I mean, you know they had you know, they have these little like medallions, like you know, like little patties of freeze dried food. Well, did you ever try to throw on those and you know, a freeze dride burger in a pan and try to fry it on a grill. No, it doesn't work out at very well at all. Um So, but yet that's's that's one of the terms that's being thrown around out there in banning. And of course with it, they always throw on um natural and which is one of the things that you know, everybody thinks they're buying all this natural stuff. And so I went to the FDA and USDA and Food Safety and Inspection Service and they find the legal definition of natural and it says it's a product containing no artificial ingredients or added color and his only

6:00 minimally process um. And the minimal processing means it doesn't that doesn't affect it fundamentally. Um. That's kind of a it's it's it's specific, but I've never seen it applied or followed, have you, No, not at all. And that's such a general broad definition that's open for a lot of interpretation by companies that call themselves natural for sure. Well that's that's the other interesting thing is if a company uses the name uh natural, and I don't I can use you know, I don't normally refer to as company names. But a company like Newman's Organic, which is the name of the company, and everybody just assumed that every product that they ever put out was organic, and you know, there's nothing farther from the truth. Yeah, yeah, I mean the typical ingredients, right, Bill, I mean that's your expertise, of course. What are the ingredients that are listed on Newman's Organic foods?

7:12 Yeah, I mean you you know, you look at you know, I mean it's like in their pet foods and stuff like that, and you may have a couple of organic ingredients, but in general, the bulkley ingredients aren't aren't organic. And of course you then also have you know, organic kibble that's processed absolutely just in nature of being kibble, it's processed. I don't know how they can call it an organic kibble. But certainly that market, that industry, as you know, is so expanded in recent decades. Just take a walk into any quote unquote natural pet store, right, and such a huge variety of quote unquote natural products that can be you know, very intimidating to you know, an animal guardian looking to feed really the ideal food.

8:05 Yeah, I mean if you're standing there and you know, of course, most consumers have been indoctrinated into feeding only a pet food, which you know, a pet food is not even a food, is actually a feed, which is another whole definition in itself. But you know, they naturally think, too Kimmel, and there's no such thing. You know, they can make all the claims they want minimally processed or low heat process or you know, human grade ingredients. Um, you know, we talk about this all the time, even human grade. I mean you can go from industrial beef to you know, the best super steaks available out there, you know, Wa Goo or Colby beef and things of that nature. You know, and you know, a thousand dollars orteen hundred dollars for one steak. There's a big, big difference in not only the quality of the food, but what the nutrients are, the nutrient content, how it's handled. All of these have to be a part of what should be, you know, explain to the consumer. Shouldn't it absolutely should be and certainly not going to get that explanation from their local veterinarian who they often go to for nutritional expertise.

9:28 And you know, I saw a client, excuse me, the other day that was in the waiting room and the dog came in with a little bit of diarrhea of vomiting, and the client was lectured because she was feeding a raw diet. And you know, it just amazes me how just to diverge for a second. It just amazes me how an animal can have a little bit of vomiting and diarrhea, a little detoxification and immediately the western medical you know, veterinarian is putting down a raw diet and and God only knows how many vomiting and diarrhea cases are coming in from toxicity and from feeding the processed commercial kibbles that we're talking about here. And it's just amazing to me, you know, the lack of knowledge from you know, like we've talked about the medical personnel that animal guardians still holding, you know, kind of a godlike image, bunch of them. Yeah, I mean it's amazing. I mean when then when you stop and think about kid, because you've been in practice for a long long time, I won't mention the years, you know, because we're not getting any younger. But um, the bulk of you know, well, I know by industry standards that somewhere's between um eighty and eighty five percent of all pets, canines and similar in felines are basically fed a kibble diet. And of course we know you and I know um that

11:01 those are loaded with all kinds of chemicals and toxins and that sort of thing. And when you when you're presented in the clinic, and especially the allopathic clinics, and you're seeing everything from vomiting which you just mentioned in diarrhea, but also the ear ear infections and discharges, the eye discharges um, the skin issues, the poblic and shoeing, even anal glands um. Those are all forms of the same detoxification process that the allopathic veticin concerned about. What raw food isn't it absolutely sure is. And you know it's you know, when animals are having these chronic issues, it's it's the opposite. It's it's toxicity, not detoxicity. So when we see not detoxifications, So when we see our animals who go on raw diets kind of cleanse themselves of all those toxins. It's only gonna be natural. They're going to get a little diarrhea, a little vomiting. But animals eating these kibbles and process canned foods, they're getting vomiting and diarrhea from toxicity of the of those ingredients you just mentioned.

12:11 It's exactly true, and of course those other you know, the chronic symptoms that we see. That's the body actually trying to detoxify itself. But because of the additives that they add into especially the kibbles, but now so much in the canned foods, the stool hardening agents and basically anti vomiting type of ingredients, it has to manifest itself in a different way, which is the skin problem, the ear problem, the discharge, isn't it absolutely or anything outside you know, the gut, you know, you know, as the gut becomes in flame and leaky, we can see problems in any organ system you know, you mentioned skinny ears, behavior, respiratory tract, urinary tract, any any body system is fairy aime, you know. The toxicity takes hold once once these toxins get into the system, and of course that causes basically a chronic inflammatory condition in the whole animal, which is going to interrupt the whole the whole system. The whole system is breaking down and just trying to survive, isn't it. Yeah. Yeah, And then you know, of course allopathic medicine we come along and we have them suppress localized effects, localized discharges, localized you know, body's attempt at detoxifying, and then the body just gets sicker as those imbalances either go to other areas in the body, or as the body tries its best to push these things to the

13:45 outside, or unfortunately, if the body loses that battle and gets overwhelmed, then we're seeing deeper disease and then even cancer ultimately. Yeah. Well, I was looking at I saw an ever ad for another new line of raw diet, commercial diet put out by a veterinarian that's just owing. I mean, he's so into this. And when I'm looking at the ingredient label, it's loaded with different vegetable matter, adding in things like beef blood, and I'm trend think some of the other ingredient there was something of the other really weird ingredients. All of these recipes. If it's a beef, if it's a beef point that it always has mackerel in it, you know, and fish, and he's adding in some mushrooms and different herbs and botanicals, not very many, but something like help. And then he's adding in a supplement for zinc and for iron. It's like they still don't get that if you're feeding a good quality you know, naturally raised, truly naturally raised um, protein source, meat source, animal source for those animals, aren't all those stuff in that already? Sure, you know? And that gets into the line that you know, I think it taps into also the big industry of

15:16 you know, nutrients and nutrient quote unquote deficiencies and excess and they and often I guess the you know, in this case, the veterinarian and of course the nutraceutical business feels that, you know, basically, we can add back these these ingredients, these minerals and in a non in a non evolutionary way and get the same effects as you do when it's naturally in the food. Well, when we're looking at okay, and of course by the topic, is your food really natural? Um? When we look at our dogs and cats. According to the veterinary industry and of course the food industry, that's complicit with them is that our dogs and cats are the only creatures on the face of the earth that have to have a synthetically man made diet in order to survive. That's right, but just survive, isn't it true? It is true, and that's what the that's what most of the animals in this country are being fed. It's just, you know, when it comes out to common sense, Bill, like you said, I mean, all the other species are trying to eat, you know what we evolve to eat, at least in an ideal circumstance. But when we force these artificial, you know, processed diets on our animals and call that a complete and balanced diet, it's just, you know, I just shake my head and say, how do my colleagues actually justify that? And it's a brainwashing process, and

16:51 in the medical school training, in the continuing education where these huge pet food companies come along and literally brain wash the veterinarians and the public directly and indirectly that this is the way we need to feed our animals it, you know. And of course again then it comes down to marketing that's being used by the food company, you know, by using terms like you know, all natural and all natural ingredients, and um, you know that couldn't be further from the truth. I mean every time ever that the definition was clear. If there's any processing, if there's any colors, if there's any um additives, they can't they can't claim to be a natural product. And yet where's where is the um, you know, the oversight of it. Who's watching, Who's watching what these people are doing? Insane? Yeah? Yeah, there is, there is no regulation with it. It's just they can say whatever they want. Correct, Yeah, pretty much. Well, I mean equal either're nots opposed to. But you know, um, who's going to question a veterinarian you know, or or an animal hospital? Okay? Um, you know until just recent years, nutrition wasn't a part of the veterinary trade, was it? No, not at all? Still really isn't.

18:18 I mean, the training of veterinarians and nutrition is minimal at best. And as I said, they're kind of corralled into these pet food companies, you know, rhetoric and brainwashing that you know, these various commercial and prescription foods are what our animals need to be healthy. I mean, I mean I hear colleagues all the time recommending common grocery store, commercial foods, and I just want to vomit myself when I hear, you know, these recommendations and they say it with such demonstrative a knowing, you know, and an egoic knowing, and nothing could be further from the truth. Well, you know, especially when they some of the old timers, I'm really amazed because you know, they're you know, they're going like, oh, yeah, I've fed my dog x y z all my dogs have always ate it. They've all done very very well, right up till the very end. And then you ask them, Okay, when you started in practice, what was the average lifespan of a dog, you know, twenty years, twenty two years.

19:22 What are they today? You're giving him a seniors head blood work at four years old, five years old, six years old. I mean, it's it's nuts. And if they are living to be even ten, twelve, fourteen, those animals are just chronically sick. Then they're just being bandated with the whole menagerie of drugs, surgical procedures, dentistries. But they're hardly, hardly healthy animals. Yep. I know we're at the break right now. We're going to be right back after this quick break. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible, and my Paleopets is the answer.

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22:08 That's right. I mean, I can't tell you Bill how many times I've heard, you know, colleagues saying, oh, that's just a fatty tumor or like poma. It's normal for a middle age older animal to have warts and skin tags and dental disease, especially in the little breeds. You know, that's just quote unquote normal. It's quote unquote normal for a cocker spaniel right to have gunky ears because either they have because of the shape of their ears. You know, I love that explanation, Orbitius. They went swimming, Yeah, it was either with somebody the other day and I was thinking about that. Um, you know, all the dog must have gotten you know, he was swimming in the pool. It must be out water in his ears. Well, in the wild, I think that wolves and foxes and coyotes and other members of the canine family swim across rivers and streams and caught in crrential downpours, and and yet they don't suffer from them. No, no, of course not. It's just it's amazing to me. And even if I you know, when clients asked me about that, I said, well, think of all the animals that do go in the pool and the ocean and never have an ear infection. So does that mean the pool in the ocean is the cause of the ear infection and the other animals.

23:29 I mean, it's just, you know, the reasoning is just amazing to me, where you look at what you and I talk about on many different perspectives, that it's just all one and the same. It's just you know, toxins trying to come out of the body the animal having trouble removing those toxins and then being troubled with chronic ongoing skin and ear problems, or as you mentioned a few minutes ago, the tendency to develop lumps and bumps and skin tags and even worse. Yeah, I mean, it's you know, and everyone we start to look at some of the products that are you know, that are there um you know, it's you know, all of almost all of these synthetic vitamins today that they add to these commercial foods. Obviously they're not natural. A lot of them are derived from things like soy and corn oil, which is horrible in itself, isn't it absolutely you know, probably you know, processed you know, grains and and as you said, soy, I mean not what our animals should be eating, that's for sure, or ingesting. And and it's and it's interesting too that a lot of the you know, sometimes they'll use um terminology or poul like in the supplement field, we look in at different vitamins, but they're not a naturally sourced vitamin. It's made in a lab, so you know it, you know,

25:06 I guess when it comes to mind, is natural vitamin E well, vitamin E is in a lot of different things like fish oils, and it can be in soil oil, it can be in um, you know, corn oil, the women is corn oil and salmon oil and um you know soy oil. Those are natural products to start with, those royal process aren't they. Yeah, they sure are not hardly hardly fresh, fresh ingredients. So I'm confused. Now, how can it be natural vitamin E that's made from a synthetic It doesn't make any sense, doesn't go No, it's total it's total fraud. Basically, it's misrepresentation. And unfortunately, you know, we as humans and of course especially our paths are the ones that really suffer because the pets can't tell you when you give it that supplement that oh, I've got an upset stomach, unless it's so upset that you've got explosive diarrhea.

26:10 And then how could it be the natural vitamin I mean, that's to help him. It wouldn't make him have diarrhea, would it? Talk? No, right, exactly, you know, and then the vets says, of course, no, I mean that's not the cause of the problem. You know, it's you know, and you just look at look at those you know, like you talk about those the vitamins that are now you know, just take the ingredient label of any of those pet foods, right, I mean not just the supplements, but just the pet foods, all those ingredients, all of those you know, natural vitamins to coffer rolls and preserve a vitamin E. And you know they've they think they're tricking the public in ways that they are by telling by saying it's naturally preserved. Membery years ago used to have a thoxyquin list of the BH and BHT. Right now we don't see those ingredients listen anymore because they quote unquote they're preserved naturally. The issue, especially especially the exosquin, and of course that was used in a lot of the salmon and the fish based products, is the labeling law change, the ingredient law change that. Now that we have factory fish uh fishing boats, basically they do all the processing on the boat itself. I believe it is as long as they are outside the three mile limit, they can

27:41 add in the ethoxyquin and never label it. That's right. I remember reading that. Yes, I mean, and that that goes on. I'm sure today. Oh we are still goes on every day. Um, that's why we don't see the ethoxyquin listed on the labels anymore. Yeah, and that was a known carcinogen and other you know, trigger of other chronic diseases. That ingredient got at least some press like that. Now they're finding ways around it through what you just mentioned about the fishing. Yeah. Um, it's it's you know, we have to use a lot of common sense and this stuff. That's that's probably the biggest thing that we get into our clients as you know, stop and think your animal isn't is a natural being. It's you know, it was created by God nature however you want to view it.

28:37 But it's it's a part of this planet and all its nutritional needs are going to be met by what's already on this planet. It's it's, it's it's the it's the cycle of life, isn't it truly? Yeah? Sure is. And when you talk about common sense, I tell clients all the time, just go into the supermarket or go into your veterinarian's office and just grab a bag or it can off the shelf that they're selling for astronomical prices for all sorts of different you know medical conditions labeled for medical conditions. Just take a begg or it can and just read the label and see if you can understand what the ingredients are. And most of the time they INGREDI I don't even understand half the ingredients. You you know, you probably can dissect them out, but you know, I look at the ingredients and if I don't understand what they're putting in the food, then it's not something I want to be giving to my animals. So you know, you don't need to have a food science major to be or a food science degree to really see that. And it's amazing when you look at a look I mean, if we take a look at just a meat products themselves, you know, the only listing really let's say if it's a beef product that I can just put beef on there and it could be any parts of that animal. I do not have to be descripts um A lot of companies will. I mean we do when we when we package our biocomplete line, because I want people to

30:11 know that we're using you know things like you know, high metabolic energy and great you know parts like the heart, uh, the you know, the good organ meat deliveral uh sometimes spleen or kidneys, because these are you know, when you start looking into the real uh physiological requirements of the animal, they need these other parts, and it's up to us to be able to provide that, um, you know, and have the clients, the pet parents know that we're trying to do our best to come up with the basically a prey model what they would eat in nature, and in the amounts that they would eat in nature. You know, there aren't set rules, you know, the eight ten ten rule or you know some of the other things.

31:06 It's just it's it's it's becomes so if lack of another word, can you know we have to have a specific recipe for everything. Yeah, yeah, there's no specific recipes in nature, you know, not at all. I mean, we we create different chronic disease conditions of different body parts, whether it's urinary, skin, um, digestive. We create diseases and then we develop these artificial diets to try and solve those diseases. Isn't that the most asinine thing you could possibly if you think about it that way, I mean, it's just mind boggling. I mean, and and you know, these these process commercial foods come in and they may ban the you know, you're ary problem or a bowel problem. But boy, those quality of those ingredients and what's in there is going to lead to all sorts of other problems.

32:07 So that animal who goes on a urinary diet or a bladder diet, you know, to prevent crystals and stones. Those are the animals I see that eventually developed kidney failure. Yeah, yeah, this is exactly right. I mean, we were talking on a previous show about you know that the complete and balance claims on these natural diets that you know, if you feed too much or too little, it's no longer complete and balance. No, I don't know, it's it's and of course, if you're feeding the same food day in, day out, and it doesn't matter even if it's natural needs, you're going to create certain deficiencies because no single food can be complete with a dynamic body, can it. No, not at all. That's why you know you're you know, the model you ascribe to with the stool were and that you know we preach is that rotating varied protein diet because in the wild, that's what these animals are getting. They're not getting the same thing day in and day out. Yeah. And of course, then if you're looking at the fact that the matter is is it's not a natural um vitamate ingredient or a mental ingredient, chances ought it's not being utilized anyway.

33:23 And in many cases it ends up getting if the body doesn't recognize it, it stores it in fat cell, so then we end up with a more obese animal. Um You know that when we do finally go through that detox, we're releasing all those toxins in those fat cells back into the bloodstream. And what does that cause? Yeah, yeah, diarrhea, vomiting, skin eruptions, discharge discharges from the body. The body's doing what it's supposed to do. Yea. And so you know, when we when we talk natural, I mean we really mean what would we what would we eat? What would they eat in nature? Right? Exactly when the animals, you know, attack those prey in the in the wild, they are getting those spleens and livers and kidneys and organ meat, you know, along with the muscle meat, right and the bones. You know, that's the the other thing.

34:22 You know, how many we can talk a little bit more about that, I mean, how many conventional veterinarians are telling don't give animals any bones. Yeah, they're gonna get problems. Yes, I know. And it's like, don't give them aide. Probably the most complete food on the face of the earth. You know, it's a great, great biological value of protein. Absolutely. Okay, we're at this next break. Let's take this and get into the vital phases of it. We'll be right back. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be from poor nutrition, and my Paleopet can help.

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36:44 Call nine five four nine seven one two five zero zero to speak with our friendly stap today. Let my paleopet help keep your pet happier and healthier. And we're back at health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is built the Pet Health Gurule along with doctor Michael them. Um. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the bone thing, um, because that's a you know, that's an interesting thing. I mean, that's again another truly natural product that they would eat in nature. And you know, one of the big problems that we see in so many animals today, of course, are dental problems. Um, you know, because they're not they're not you know, the bones are not scraping those teeth clean. They don't have the meat enzymes to break down the tartar. But one of the other big things is all the joint problems that we have. And in order to build cartilage, what ingredient? What food you have to feed to build cartilage?

37:47 Yeah? Healthy cartilage exactly. Yeah. And you know, and then when you look at you know, marrow bones, Okay, that's stem cells, isn't it. It sure is, it's exactly what you know, the body's going to utilize that and develop healthy bones and joints exactly. Yeah. Um, it's it's it's nuts. You know, but you know, it's interesting. It's like you know, they you know when part of the you know, it's like, oh my god, he's eating a raw diet with raw bones. You know, we had to take an X ray to make sure he's not blocked or obstructed. And you know, how often do we ever see that when animals are eating species appropriate raw meat diets with you know, with bone bone ingredients. I mean, I don't know, I'd never see obstructions from that. No. And I mean, and you know, of course, the other common thing that they throw out there is it can rip up the intestine um. You know, it's it's being digested, even a sharp bone, I mean, to penetrate the intestinal wall um to a great extent. Is that's like like an inner tube in a tire. It expands, but the puncture it isn't easy, is it. No? Not at all exactly. I mean, you've got you've gotta be I mean, if you're a surgeon and doing something with the gut, you've got to really work at it, don't you That's true. I mean, you know, the only problems I see with bones and when they're cooked, you know,

39:20 that's when they splinter and and have problems. But the raw bones themselves, I never see problems with it. Yeah, I mean, I mean the worst problems I ever saw with bones, and they've always been cooked. Um are usually like turkey leg bones and sometimes chicken league one, but chicken or unless it's a tiny dog. But the biggest problem is when they're dried out like that, they're hollow and they get stuck on their teeth. That's true, that's true. Good point. You know, uh, you know the canine tooth goes right through it. And now what do I do. I'm walking around with his bone hanging out of my mouth. Mom. Yeah, yeah, good points, Bill. Yeah, but yeah, I mean that cartilage and that marrow is especially, I mean those are essential nutrients. And um, you know, in when you look at a commercial food and all even to you all natural ones and even in the all natural raw meat ones, they're not including any of this stuff in there. No, not at all. And what about your people will say, well, I want to give my dogs bones, but let's get them raw hides and all these other treated processed chemicals you know, imitation bones right well, And you know, I mean I go back far enough in the industry when raw hide was actually a safe, a safe and a truly natural product because all they were taking is what's known as a split, which is the inside of the high which is collagen, and that would be air dried you know, um, and

40:54 cut into strips soaked in water. I didn't the knots on the two ends or whatever sizes you wanted, read dried in the sun, and that's all it want. And then of course, as the man went up, you know, chemical more chemicals were being used in more mechanical processes, and the chemicals that they started using, um, the US government did not want those used in the United States, so they shipped everything to China. MM. And of course who knows what they're using there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chinese China exported important I mean into our country. Yeah. God only knows what those ingredients are. Yeah. And when you look at it, you know, when we're looking at it at even uh, you know, the natural supplements that are added to the food again, those are all coming from China. UM. You know I saw a number recently that UM, the that they're they're allowing Chinese products to use usd A certified organic stickers as long as it says so on the paperwork when it comes into the country.

42:07 There is absolutely no inspection in China, right right, and yet it's important with those labels. That's amazing ye so um. And of course look at you know, on the alepathic side, all the drugs. What was it the figure I saw something like ninety or ninety five percent of all antibiotics now are coming out of China. Yeah, yeah, I think it's that You're right, it's that high. It's the majority of drugs coming from these countries where there's very little regulation, very little. Yeah. I mean, even even with our partnership with some some other countries like India. It India has a shortage of the components to make their pharmaceuticals because those come from China.

42:52 Also amazing, it really is. So. I mean you talk about, know you've talked about in other shows, the you know, the supplements that people are giving the animals that you know have natural you know, they say have natural ingredients from not only for the issues you're talking about here, but I know you've mentioned in previous shows about all the additives and the fillers and all of that to just to make a supplement. Yeah, the anti stick agents, the anti caking agents, the lubricants, sometimes flavors have got to be added because animals can sense that, you know, these things are not good for them. And you know, I mean, how many clients over the years have you heard, I can't get my dog a pill. There's the reason. The dog is smarter than the veterinarian. I'm sorry. And then you know the conventional that movement into the holistic business that they call themselves.

43:45 You know, when they say they're going naturally, you know, they're adding you know, they have these probiotics that are just processed, you know, process to the max with dead bacteria, and then calling that a probiotic gut, and then coming up with these joint supplements that are quite expensive or products that they say are good for the liver, you know, that are just basically processed milk, thistle and sammy glued together and you know, package and flavorings and all of that, and they call that holistic supplements natural supplements. It's just amazing. Yeah, I mean, it's it's um. You know, we have to watch the buzzwords and you know, naturally processed, natural, you know, natural ingredients. Um, all those are you know a kind of you know, almost a warning label in many many scents, and it's you know, it's like even with the beef. You know, we went from all all beef was grass fed and grass finished for the most part, and then they allow grain finishing and they change the standard um that they could use fifty nine days and so called grass fed. And then you know, now they're finding that they can make pellets using grass but also binders and fillers in vitamins and say that it's grass finished, but it's really not.

45:07 So you need really look at it. You know, you have to go to a natural pasture. And then you're hoping that that wasn't treated with chemicals, which it is hard to find these days, that's for sure. Yeah, it is. It's you know, and and the funny thing is it's when you really look truly at um, you know, the or you know, the definition of organic. It's impossible to have a truly organic product today unless it's grown in basically a bubble, which that doesn't fit into the organic um definition anyway, because of the chemtrails and the experience for mosquitos and zeke. I mean, I was driving home tonight and they're saying it's mosquito season and look for the truck because looks for the plane, you know, I know, God, it's just just amping up now right in May into June and July, and mosquito spraying is going to be out full force.

46:02 Yeah, you know up north. Don't worry, they're going to be out in July and August for you. So you combine that, like you said, with the chemtrails, and we've got to you know, with other that go on year round. Yeah, it's just a toxic soup. So that's why it's so important, you know, to get back to the topic of the show. It's so so important to really just feed a species appropriate you know, rotating predatory type diet and not get caught up in all these you know, different h gimmicks and schemes to mimic that. Yeah, and you know, I mean, and you know we've got to put about three minutes here. Um, it's no more difficult with you know, when you've got companies like our sponsor, Biocomplete, you know, natural Diets and my paleopat and in the stores that carry the products. Um, it's no more difficult to feed than any other thing. I mean, you take it out it's in serving sizes for the day. You pop up with a container and then you're done, all right, you knows. You know most of us feed right under the container, so you don't even have to wash the dogs dish.

47:10 There is no dish. There is no dish. That's right. It's a good point. And you know people that claim, oh it's too expensive this vers that. But you know these commercial pet foods, especially the prescription ones at the vet office, you know, if you break it down how much you're feeding, you know, they want you of course to feed. You know, on the labels of these foods, they they're astronomically feeding huge amounts of food so that they can gain weight and and get heavy. Um. You know it's expensive to feed those foods. Yeah, they are. They're they're actually actually feeding wall can be actually less expensive than at two minutes doctor dim. So where can people reach you? Well, they can reach me and can go to my website which is doctordim dot com. That's d O C T O R D y M dot com or one word that information on my practice, my email, contact information and you know phone number and most of my work is done by a lot of it's done by telemedicine local house calls here in Palm Beach County. But you know, certainly UM encourage clients if they have any concerns chronic health issues, certainly give us a call YEP. And of course you can reach me at my Paleopet and Pet Health Guru and UM you know, through the Pet Health Cafe social media sites and just to kind of warn people that UM beginning either we'll have announcements up there new week. Check our Pet Health Cafe Facebook page and my Paleo Pet and

48:50 I'm sure doctor Demmi it will be up on your pages as well. We will be changing the show in the very near future. We will be going to a TV format, which is exciting, and we'll put you we'll post the announcements as soon as everything is finalized this week and we hope to see there. One of the interesting things is they'll be availability forum us to get questions from our listeners, which we haven't been able to do on radio because it's got to be censored. So we'll have a lot of new exciting things coming up, So you know, go to us, go to our YouTube channel, which will be the radio or the TV show itself. UM listen to the Pet Health Cafe on podcast. Make sure you'll like us and share it all over the place. Um, so we got to going on doctor dem sounds wonderful, bill sounds exciting future. Yes, it is so.

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