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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet
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Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice.
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And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
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welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, to show where your
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pet has a voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru
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and a fabulous another show lined up for us tonight. Again,
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I want to remind people too like and to subscribe
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and to share this podcast with as many people as
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you can. Let's get that message out there. We want
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healthy animals, we want healthy pet owners. The chat room
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is open and we look forward to any questions you
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might have. I've got a special guest tonight and I
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want to introduce Morley Robbins, the author and founder of
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the Root Cause Protocol.
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How you doing, Morley?
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Can you hear me? I guess Morley can't hear me yet?
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I can hear you. Okay, it looks like we have
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a little bit of a technical issue that we're starting
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to work out again. I think we had one last
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time you were on too. Anyway, we're gonna be talking
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a lot about minerals and the protocols and things of
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that nature. And again, like I said, I want you
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to share and to like subscribe, add your comments into
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the comments section, and and we'll get with morally as
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soon as we've got a good connection here. I guess
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can you hear me at all?
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I can hear you now, Okay, good, okay, Well, welcome,
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nice to be here.
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Yes, I understand you're having some nasty weather up your way.
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Yes, we've had a full blast of winter weather this year.
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We just had our third storm snowstorm. It's like like
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one to two inches of snow, but it's enough to
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bring the area to its knees, which is frustrating.
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Sure, but it's beautiful out.
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It's just you have to put up with the crazy
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drivers in North Carolina.
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Yeah, I can imagine. I know. I know my hometown
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of Buffalo and all of Western New York is getting
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slammed tremendously and they all keep sending me pictures. When
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are you coming back up? And it's like never.
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Yeah, I got a note from a buddy of mine
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in Utica. He's got four feet of snow in his
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backyard and front yard of course. Yeah, he said, this
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has just been a crazy.
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Twitter Yeah it sure. I think it started a little
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bit later up there, but then once it hit, it
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hit with a engines.
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That's what he was saying. He said it was very
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mild in November, December, and then January and February just
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been crazy.
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Yeah, exactly. All right. So we've been had you on
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for a little while. It's been a couple of months,
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I believe, and you know, I see that you've been
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promoting your protocol and yourself all over the place, your
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book and on social media. It's like every day there
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is another post. You've been busy.
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I've been having fun and we're doing a lot of
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YouTube videos, a lot of shorts. He's having fun. And
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a neighbor who's a good friend. He's a real whiz
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with computers and he loves AI and he's he's created
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these images of me as Sherlock Holmes and a chef,
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a general general copper and it's just it sparked some
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new interest and it's been a lot of fun to
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get the get the word out and fun and entertaining way.
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So people are they're having a field day with that,
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which is good.
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Yeah, it's it's really really uh, you know, a good
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thing to do. I mean, obviously the message is very
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very important with what we do. And with that being said,
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you've got quite a few updates, don't you on your research.
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Well, it's really interesting. I just you know, you've heard
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the expression good, better, best, never let it rest. Yeah,
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And I just chip away at it every day. It's
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been at least three hours every morning reading new research,
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trying to make sense of the research, and stumbled upon
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area of research I've never heard of. There are doorways
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all over the cell and all over the mitochondria, and
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there's a little transport mechanisms to let nutrients in, let
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the nutrients out, let the waste matter get out. And
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they're like five hundred of these doorways. They're called solute carriers.
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They're in solution. Well, there's a whole different classification that
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are energy driven, and they're called ABC transporters, and the
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ABC stands for ATP driven ATP binding cassette. It's a
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very funny term, but they require energy to move substances
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in and out of the mitochondria especially, and there's about
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fifty of them. Well, it turns out there's one that's
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just devoted to iron and I never knew that. And
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it's actually before of the the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
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While there's four of these ABC transporters that are dealing
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with iron in different capacities, but one that's called ABC
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B eight ABC Baker eight, and it's the mechanism that
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jettison's excess iron out of the minochondria to make sure
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that everything's running smoothly. And it's really really important, and
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it's hanging out with mechanisms that are copper dependent. Didn't
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know that. And what's fascinating about it is I wouldn't
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have designed it this way, but our maker and Mother
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Nature decided to make it fun. This ABCB eight reacts
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to iron in our diet, and if we have too
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much iron in our diet, I e. Iron fortified, iron
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fortified flower, iron fortified supplements irons everywhere in our environment.
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This mechanism shuts down and doesn't let the iron out.
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And what I mean I was reading this, I was like,
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wait a minute. They were feeding these animals in the
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study an iron deficient diet and this ABC eight was
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moving just fine. Everything's going out just the way it's
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supposed to. As soon as they gave it iron fortified,
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everything shut down. And that's that's the Western diet bill is.
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Iron for absolutely.
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And so they've they've turned off this viral mechanism for
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making sure that iron gets recycled because it's supposed to
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be recycled, and we're eating food that is the antithesis
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of what we need. And yet everyone thinks they're an
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emic and they think the copper's bad. And so it's
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just coming to terms with just how elegant the design is,
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but how in Congress and goofy our dietary regimen is
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that flies in the face of what's needed.
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It is truly interesting that way. And of course, you know,
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you and I have been talking about this forever, but
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you know, we have a you know, the forms of
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course that the supplements and these fortifiers are in has
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a lot to do with it. If the body can't
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use it properly anyway, and then you know, and then
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we overload it. It's got to be crazy.
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I think we've lost all sense of perspective and we
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just don't realize what we're being exposed to I never
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thought about it for the bulk of my life. I
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never even get paid any attention to. Well, of course
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it's got to be iron fortified. We need that iron.
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And now looking back, it's like, no, we don't need
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the iron. And I'm sure it's in pet food. You know,
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it's in human food. And why are we giving pets iron?
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I mean do they really need it? Are they anemic too?
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Is that a problem in the in the veterinarian world
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of small animals? Are they anemic as well?
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Well, I mean they're still doing the same types of
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blood work that we do on humans basically and looking
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at the same markers, so uh, sometimes it is showing
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up that they can be And uh, of course, you
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know with the number of with especially with feeding ultra
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processed you know, kibble type foods, you know there's i
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mean literally hundreds of compounds that they're putting in this stuff.
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quality is, what the absorbable ability is, what the bioavailability,
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and you know, even how clean this stuff is, so
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you can you can have a ton of stuff we
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know that they're using in the commercial pet foods these
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ultra processed foods basically a lot of human food crash,
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if you will. Basically you know the leftovers from the
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supermarkets and you know the processing plants and everything else.
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So obviously, if they're fortifying with iron in these plants,
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that waste material is definitely going to have, you know,
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an abundance of extra iron.
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So we've got some interesting questions that are popping up
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in the in the thread. So if the doctor tells
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you that you're a little low on iron, first of all,
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we have to clarify there's three different ways of measuring
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iron in the blood. There's a bucket of iron how
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big a bucket is. There's a bucket of iron called hemoglobin,
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and that's eighty percent of the iron in the body.
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There's a tea cup of iron called ferratin. It's supposed
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to be ferretin. There's a storage protein for iron. Supposed
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to be in the cell, not supposed to be in
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the blood. Blood is outside of the cell. This idea that, oh,
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the ferretin in my blood is an indication of the
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ferratin in my tissue or inside my cell is just ridiculous.
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So if you're a farmer, you want to know how
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many bales of hay you have in your barn you
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walk out in the field to count it. Of course
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you don't. It's absolutely absurd. So we've got this bucket
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of iron, this tea cup of iron, and then there's
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a thimble of iron called serum iron, and that's the
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iron that's being constantly recycled every day. It's a very
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small amount, it's not even a percent of the iron
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in the body, but it's a very important percent. So
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if the doctor says your iron is low, first question
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is which marker you're looking at. You're looking at hemoglobin,
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the bucket, you're looking at ferretin the tea cup, where
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you looking at cerum iron, the thimble? And the answer
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is different for each one. And I'm not trying to
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complicate it, but the question that's been asked is what
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do you say to the doctor, say, well, what's my
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copper status? Given the copper, what's regulating the iron, how
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do we know that it isn't a copper problem as
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opposed to an iron problem. And the part that is
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very very important is every day, every day, we need
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to make two hundred billion new red blood cells. That's
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where the bulk of our iron, ninety five percent of
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our daily iron needs to go to support that two
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hundred billion new red blood cells. That's twenty four of
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the twenty five milligrams we need every day. And it
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comes from a recycling program, doesn't come from our diet,
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not supposed to come from our diet. Only one milligram
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a day is supposed to come from our diet. This
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is research that goes back into the nineteen thirties by
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McCants and Wittison, which were a legendary team a nutritionist
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and a physician that were the standard for nutritional research
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in Great Britain before the start of the Second World War.
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And their textbook is like it's eighteenth edition. I mean,
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it's still a standard for nutritional research. But the real
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question is is it isn't my copper that's off? Could
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that be what's contributing to my iron being low? And
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the doctor is going to look at you like you've
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got three heads because they've never heard the copper copper
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runs blood or copper runs iron, when in fact, copper
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is the general and iron is the foot soldier, the grunt,
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and it's very well documented in the research. Now the
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other question that was raised is what if I'm not
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able to handle the iron that I've got. That's a
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common misperception. The reason why you can't handle the iron
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that you've got is you don't have enough copper in
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your diet. And the challenge you've got Bill as you
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will now, copper is sort of disappearing from the soil.
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It's disappearing from the food, and therefore it's disappearing from
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our bodies. And the reason why it's disappearing from the
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soil is that liphosate is no friend of copper, very
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good at kelating it out of the soil so that
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they can't get in the food. And then when they're
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processing food, they use a sweetener called bructose hyfruittose corncrup.
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It's known as a copper elator. And then of course
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at the medical level, they're using medications like antibiotics, hormone
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replacement therapy, EMO therapies, well, all sorts of classes of
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drugs that are known to klate copper out of our body.
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So if someone is told or they perceive that they
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are not using their iron properly, it's more more than
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likely a copper problem. If they're not using their iron.
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If they're not using their iron properly, it's more likely
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a copper problem, not an iron problem. And all of
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the optics are on iron, and none of the optics
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are on copper.
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Yeah, I know. We talk about it, of course in
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the store, and I talk about it quite a bit
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on the show, that all of these, all these minerals
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are interrelated, along with a whole bunch of other ones
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as well, and that if they're when you start throwing
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them out of balance, like with fortifying food with iron,
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when you're stripping out the nutrients in the foods like
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we do with highly processed dairy products, and you know,
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subjecting our cattle to the lipho say uh, in their feed.
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You know that's got to come through the meat animals