The Role of Iron, Copper and other Minerals for Health

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru and a fabulous another show lined up for us tonight. Again, I want to remind people too like and to subscribe and to share this podcast with as many people as you can. Let's get that message out there. We want healthy animals, we want healthy pet owners. The chat room is open and we look forward to any questions you might have. I've got a special guest tonight and I want to introduce Morley Robbins, the author and founder of the Root Cause Protocol.

1:23 How you doing, Morley? Can you hear me? I guess Morley can't hear me yet? I can hear you. Okay, it looks like we have a little bit of a technical issue that we're starting to work out again. I think we had one last time you were on too. Anyway, we're gonna be talking a lot about minerals and the protocols and things of that nature. And again, like I said, I want you to share and to like subscribe, add your comments into the comments section, and and we'll get with morally as soon as we've got a good connection here. I guess can you hear me at all?

2:08 I can hear you now, Okay, good, okay, Well, welcome, nice to be here. Yes, I understand you're having some nasty weather up your way. Yes, we've had a full blast of winter weather this year. We just had our third storm snowstorm. It's like like one to two inches of snow, but it's enough to bring the area to its knees, which is frustrating. Sure, but it's beautiful out. It's just you have to put up with the crazy drivers in North Carolina. Yeah, I can imagine. I know. I know my hometown of Buffalo and all of Western New York is getting slammed tremendously and they all keep sending me pictures. When are you coming back up? And it's like never.

3:02 Yeah, I got a note from a buddy of mine in Utica. He's got four feet of snow in his backyard and front yard of course. Yeah, he said, this has just been a crazy. Twitter Yeah it sure. I think it started a little bit later up there, but then once it hit, it hit with a engines. That's what he was saying. He said it was very mild in November, December, and then January and February just been crazy. Yeah, exactly. All right. So we've been had you on for a little while. It's been a couple of months, I believe, and you know, I see that you've been promoting your protocol and yourself all over the place, your book and on social media. It's like every day there is another post. You've been busy.

3:45 I've been having fun and we're doing a lot of YouTube videos, a lot of shorts. He's having fun. And a neighbor who's a good friend. He's a real whiz with computers and he loves AI and he's he's created these images of me as Sherlock Holmes and a chef, a general general copper and it's just it sparked some new interest and it's been a lot of fun to get the get the word out and fun and entertaining way. So people are they're having a field day with that, which is good. Yeah, it's it's really really uh, you know, a good thing to do. I mean, obviously the message is very very important with what we do. And with that being said, you've got quite a few updates, don't you on your research.

4:40 Well, it's really interesting. I just you know, you've heard the expression good, better, best, never let it rest. Yeah, And I just chip away at it every day. It's been at least three hours every morning reading new research, trying to make sense of the research, and stumbled upon area of research I've never heard of. There are doorways all over the cell and all over the mitochondria, and there's a little transport mechanisms to let nutrients in, let the nutrients out, let the waste matter get out. And they're like five hundred of these doorways. They're called solute carriers.

5:22 They're in solution. Well, there's a whole different classification that are energy driven, and they're called ABC transporters, and the ABC stands for ATP driven ATP binding cassette. It's a very funny term, but they require energy to move substances in and out of the mitochondria especially, and there's about fifty of them. Well, it turns out there's one that's just devoted to iron and I never knew that. And it's actually before of the the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

6:02 While there's four of these ABC transporters that are dealing with iron in different capacities, but one that's called ABC B eight ABC Baker eight, and it's the mechanism that jettison's excess iron out of the minochondria to make sure that everything's running smoothly. And it's really really important, and it's hanging out with mechanisms that are copper dependent. Didn't know that. And what's fascinating about it is I wouldn't have designed it this way, but our maker and Mother Nature decided to make it fun. This ABCB eight reacts to iron in our diet, and if we have too much iron in our diet, I e. Iron fortified, iron fortified flower, iron fortified supplements irons everywhere in our environment.

7:01 This mechanism shuts down and doesn't let the iron out. And what I mean I was reading this, I was like, wait a minute. They were feeding these animals in the study an iron deficient diet and this ABC eight was moving just fine. Everything's going out just the way it's supposed to. As soon as they gave it iron fortified, everything shut down. And that's that's the Western diet bill is. Iron for absolutely. And so they've they've turned off this viral mechanism for making sure that iron gets recycled because it's supposed to be recycled, and we're eating food that is the antithesis of what we need. And yet everyone thinks they're an emic and they think the copper's bad. And so it's just coming to terms with just how elegant the design is, but how in Congress and goofy our dietary regimen is that flies in the face of what's needed.

8:04 It is truly interesting that way. And of course, you know, you and I have been talking about this forever, but you know, we have a you know, the forms of course that the supplements and these fortifiers are in has a lot to do with it. If the body can't use it properly anyway, and then you know, and then we overload it. It's got to be crazy. I think we've lost all sense of perspective and we just don't realize what we're being exposed to I never thought about it for the bulk of my life. I never even get paid any attention to. Well, of course it's got to be iron fortified. We need that iron.

8:49 And now looking back, it's like, no, we don't need the iron. And I'm sure it's in pet food. You know, it's in human food. And why are we giving pets iron? I mean do they really need it? Are they anemic too? Is that a problem in the in the veterinarian world of small animals? Are they anemic as well? Well, I mean they're still doing the same types of blood work that we do on humans basically and looking at the same markers, so uh, sometimes it is showing up that they can be And uh, of course, you know with the number of with especially with feeding ultra processed you know, kibble type foods, you know there's i mean literally hundreds of compounds that they're putting in this stuff.

9:38 So you know, we don't have any idea what the quality is, what the absorbable ability is, what the bioavailability, and you know, even how clean this stuff is, so you can you can have a ton of stuff we know that they're using in the commercial pet foods these ultra processed foods basically a lot of human food crash, if you will. Basically you know the leftovers from the supermarkets and you know the processing plants and everything else. So obviously, if they're fortifying with iron in these plants, that waste material is definitely going to have, you know, an abundance of extra iron.

10:19 So we've got some interesting questions that are popping up in the in the thread. So if the doctor tells you that you're a little low on iron, first of all, we have to clarify there's three different ways of measuring iron in the blood. There's a bucket of iron how big a bucket is. There's a bucket of iron called hemoglobin, and that's eighty percent of the iron in the body. There's a tea cup of iron called ferratin. It's supposed to be ferretin. There's a storage protein for iron. Supposed to be in the cell, not supposed to be in the blood. Blood is outside of the cell. This idea that, oh, the ferretin in my blood is an indication of the ferratin in my tissue or inside my cell is just ridiculous.

11:06 So if you're a farmer, you want to know how many bales of hay you have in your barn you walk out in the field to count it. Of course you don't. It's absolutely absurd. So we've got this bucket of iron, this tea cup of iron, and then there's a thimble of iron called serum iron, and that's the iron that's being constantly recycled every day. It's a very small amount, it's not even a percent of the iron in the body, but it's a very important percent. So if the doctor says your iron is low, first question is which marker you're looking at. You're looking at hemoglobin, the bucket, you're looking at ferretin the tea cup, where you looking at cerum iron, the thimble? And the answer is different for each one. And I'm not trying to complicate it, but the question that's been asked is what do you say to the doctor, say, well, what's my copper status? Given the copper, what's regulating the iron, how do we know that it isn't a copper problem as opposed to an iron problem. And the part that is very very important is every day, every day, we need to make two hundred billion new red blood cells. That's where the bulk of our iron, ninety five percent of our daily iron needs to go to support that two hundred billion new red blood cells. That's twenty four of

12:36 the twenty five milligrams we need every day. And it comes from a recycling program, doesn't come from our diet, not supposed to come from our diet. Only one milligram a day is supposed to come from our diet. This is research that goes back into the nineteen thirties by McCants and Wittison, which were a legendary team a nutritionist and a physician that were the standard for nutritional research in Great Britain before the start of the Second World War. And their textbook is like it's eighteenth edition. I mean, it's still a standard for nutritional research. But the real question is is it isn't my copper that's off? Could that be what's contributing to my iron being low? And the doctor is going to look at you like you've got three heads because they've never heard the copper copper runs blood or copper runs iron, when in fact, copper is the general and iron is the foot soldier, the grunt, and it's very well documented in the research. Now the other question that was raised is what if I'm not able to handle the iron that I've got. That's a common misperception. The reason why you can't handle the iron that you've got is you don't have enough copper in your diet. And the challenge you've got Bill as you will now, copper is sort of disappearing from the soil.

14:10 It's disappearing from the food, and therefore it's disappearing from our bodies. And the reason why it's disappearing from the soil is that liphosate is no friend of copper, very good at kelating it out of the soil so that they can't get in the food. And then when they're processing food, they use a sweetener called bructose hyfruittose corncrup. It's known as a copper elator. And then of course at the medical level, they're using medications like antibiotics, hormone replacement therapy, EMO therapies, well, all sorts of classes of drugs that are known to klate copper out of our body.

14:54 So if someone is told or they perceive that they are not using their iron properly, it's more more than likely a copper problem. If they're not using their iron. If they're not using their iron properly, it's more likely a copper problem, not an iron problem. And all of the optics are on iron, and none of the optics are on copper. Yeah, I know. We talk about it, of course in the store, and I talk about it quite a bit on the show, that all of these, all these minerals are interrelated, along with a whole bunch of other ones as well, and that if they're when you start throwing them out of balance, like with fortifying food with iron, when you're stripping out the nutrients in the foods like we do with highly processed dairy products, and you know, subjecting our cattle to the lipho say uh, in their feed.

15:54 You know that's got to come through the meat animals as well, doesn't it. Absolutely no. People will get very defensive about their nutrient tables. Oh but my nuts and seeds, my whatever has the copper? Like, those nutrient tables haven't been updated since the venteen fifties. That's a long time ago. And the latest update that I'm aware of is at Rutgers University from year two thousand and nearly looked at a handful of vegetables that they were testing in an organic farm compared to commercial farms. But there hasn't been an old wholesale upgrade of nutrient tables.

16:38 That doesn't exist. I mean, there's a lot of eye candy on the internet making the tables look really interesting, or the information is being presented in very clever ways, but the data is old, the data is corrupt, and everything is is well before the advent of glyphos, which really started up in the seventies, and really it's hit its stride in the late eighties around eighty seven to ninety and now we're what we're thirty five years in. So it's just there's a whole generation that's growing up with this farming chemical that has been decimating minerals in the soil, and we just we just got to wake up to that reality.

17:20 Yeah, we can't keep playing you know, chemistry set with our food supply and of course our body with especially with these synthetics, because the body doesn't even know how to handle them, which is creating even even a further problem because now we're storing in fat tissue and things of that nature, and it just it compounds it to a point where you know, we our bodies don't even know how to react. We're going to be right back after a quick break. Here.

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20:13 And we're back here on the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet Health Guru along with my special guests Morley Robbins, and we're talking about minerals and in particular copper and iron that seems to be the both the fix for everything and the cause of all of our problems. Right pretty much so right, that pendulum seems to swing very very broadly, and I think that's why it's so difficult to you know, wrap our head around it. When I was doing some research for this, I was listening to a couple of your other presentations, and one I realized is that most people have no clue, no idea that the iron is even a problem, because they've been told, obviously by their medical community that you know, our problem is is deficiency, when we know it's not, and of course all the false was they go along with it because they're only testing blood that you know, looking at where it's actually being stored. But you had mentioned on one of your things about you know, the problem with the imbalance primarily with the heart and you know, heart attacks of course being you know, in heart failure obviously is the number one cause of all that. I mean, once your heart stops, you're done. So, but that most people don't even understand, and I don't think a lot of doctors really look at the heart being a muscle

21:45 and that's going to be shorting all this basically stale and uncirculated iron. Isn't it absolutely? And there's I came across the study just the other day there, it must have been Tuesday, where they were experimenting with what's called intermittent hypoxia, which is fascinating. So we know we've got the top of Mount Everest air is pretty thin up there. We have hypoxia. We know that if we have pathogens in our body, that we have white blood cells called neutrophills that use oxygen and turn it into bullets to kill the pathogens.

22:26 So that's called pathogenic hypoxia, especially if you're full of pathogens. And then there's something called functional hypoxia inside the mitocharrongia. If we don't have enough copper, we can't turn oxygen into water to release the energy molecules. It's the obligate enzyme transaction. Is I turn O two into two H two? Oh most important chemical reaction on the planet to release energy so we can get through the day. That's what it's all about. And then I came across this intermittent hypoxy They were feeding these rodents in room air and then they somehow modified it so it was intermittent. There was an intermittent disruption in the amount of oxygen in the air. And what they discovered is that the copper that ordinarily would reside in the liver was suddenly sent to the heart into the brain, and that the liver began to have dysfunction as a result of it. But it just it underscores the importance of oxygen and conversion to water to make the energy for the heart in the brain. And where's the biggest problems we have with iron accumulation? Now, it's three organs. It's the liver, non alcoholic fatty liver disease, heart disease, and neuro degeneration.

23:55 And those are the Okay, we seem to have lost your audio, your video actually and your audio. Okay, okay, you're back with yeah, yes, all right, all right, yeah. I'm audio. I'm here. I'm not here video, but that's okay, go. Ahead, yeah, yeah. What you were saying about changing the amount of oxygen in the internet sort of thing. Now, in our everyday life today, with all this weather modification, and of course the chemtrails and all the chemicals are spreading, are we experiencing this on a regular basis? I'm afraid we are. And I came across an article.

24:39 There's a world renowned metal biologist. His name was Earl Freeden. He was at Florida State University for like fifty years. He was considered the dean of metal biology for many decades, and he was a study in nineteen seventy based on the research of one of his grad students. Based on their dissertation, what they discovered is that aluminum is a perfect mechanism to kill the by availability of copper because it destroys what's called the farao oxidase enzyme function. Well, where's aluminum today? It is in vact everything, it's everything. It's in vaccines for sure, but it's in the air with the chemtrails. And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know what those ways when the sky looks very funky, but there's there's non aluminum in that, in that sprague. And so what's what's fascinating is to think about the impact that that's having on our body, especially as it relates to buy available copper. What kind of I missed that question. It was about what kind of.

25:51 Food, kind of food to replenish the copper, And we talk about it all the time. Did you start with beef flivor, don't you. Know historically, yeah, we would start with beef liver. But I don't think beef liver has the level of copper that our great grandfather's beeflvers. No, And I think we're bumping up against the stark reality that we need copper supplements, which is that's in part what inspired me to make sure that we had that through the recuperat product. I think I think the food system is compromised. And I don't say that to be an alarmist. I think that's the reality that we're facing in our day to day lives.

26:32 Well, you know, we were just talking about, you know, all the stuff that's in the atmosphere. Ne'sarsly and of course you know the fact that the aluminum kills the copper. We know it also blocks the absorption of calcium along with a lot of other stuff and is obviously going to be happening not just on us, but it's going to be happening in our food animals as well. They're all going to be compromised. So even if we're doing a good you know, a good keto or you know, carnivore type diet, that would it include things like the liver and things of that nature. Yeah, there's a great chance that it is going to be at least on a much more limited basis than what we had, you know, fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago.

27:15 And that's even true with wildlife. A lot of people, you know, I keep looking at what's in the air, and you know, I get a lot of stuff coming through to me on you know, on Carnivore Diocese. I think, you know, families that do a lot of hunting and stuff like that. Our wildlife is also being basically inundated with these same things, which makes their meat not nearly as healthy as they used to be. Oh, they can't pick. There's no way they can pick. And especially for the hunters, you know, the game that they're hunting, what kind of diet is that animal eating, especially with all the GMO corn and JML soybean all over, are they really eating a natural diet or are they eating some kind of of modified synthetic diet that we're not even thinking about.

28:03 Yeah, it just became more and more of a problem. And again, just like with the iron problem, most people don't think about this stuff in any kind of detail. And of course I can't remember the last time I saw anything in mainstream media that talks about any of this. No. I mean it's interesting. I've been listening to what Bobby Kennedy Junior has been saying following his nomination, whatever his. Approaching, Yeah, you know approved, he's not in charge. He was talking about important topics like food additives. He's aware of ten thousand additives in our food system here in the US compared to you know, four hundred in Europe.

28:49 That's a rather stark difference, twenty five for difference. He's aware of glifo sate, he was. He even talked about f radiation in his recent talk at the hhf's But I don't think he knows about this iron problem. I don't think. I think this is a very rarefied subject matter that most people, most practitioners certainly are convinced that people are anemic because they're showing up low iron on a blood test and the blood test is not measuring iron in the tissue, and it can be ten times higher in the tissue, an important distinction there. And if the doctor doesn't know about it, well, the patients aren't going to know about it, and so this is a this is a sleeper issue that's really taking a toll on humanity and people just aren't aware of it.

29:43 I mean, it's so true. I mean, it's you know, probably one of the things that you know. I mean, even those of us that are enlightened and have are aware of the problems. How do we you know, we've got about a minute and a half before the break here, how do we get this iron moving around in our body? Again? You got you gotta have copper. It's it's absolutely essential. Again, it's it's hard to fathom we have we're supposed to have. If a woman, we're supposed to have four thousand milligrams of iron, or a guy about five thousand milligrams of iron. But the rule of thumb that the iron biologists use is take your age and multiply at times three sixty five. Well, using that calculation, I've got twenty six thousand milligrams of iron. Bill, you wouldn't be far behind, right, And the thing is a well that there's a that's a multiple of what we need, and yet we only have one hundred milligrams of copper. And so I think that's where the where the conflict is and we can discuss what are some options for people going forward when we come back from the next break.

30:54 Yeah, it's yeah, it just it's making people aware that you have to basically, you have to take charge of your body today. That's the whole thing. And you know, I've been saying this on the on the pet side. It kind of made it a part of the campaign since the first of the year that you are the one that's in charge. It's not that person in that white jacket or that you know, set of scrubs that is just going by whatever is in the cookbook today. Uh, you know what the latest testing shows, and you know, spending a lot of money on expensive test, but you have to you have to ask the questions of y, why why why why? And then make up, you know, do your research. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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33:17 And then we're back here in a pet health cafe that show where your pet has a voice. This is build a Pet Health Guru along with Mortley Robbins by special guests. And as I said, was we left to break there. You know we have to take charge. We have to you know, I mean, let's face it, you know you've been involved in the medical industry forever and medicine is not health. And that's a big, big difference, isn't it. That's a very good way to describe it. It's interesting where we have parallel themes independently of each other, because well we're focusing on is something called become the CEO of your health and the CEO. We know what the CEO is that there as a right roof executive right, Well, the CEO stands for create energy ownership and that's really what health is is having good energy and you got to take you've got to take ownership of it. And it's not going to come through pills as you as you're pointing out, it's going to come through mitochondria that are properly confused with copper h The question that popped up just before we went to break was what what are some options? Well, Recuperate would be one. That's what the product that's made by f IQ that has certainly helped a lot of people and we're continuing to get rave reviews with that. Uh, there are other options. You go to go to Amazon, but the key is you wanted.

34:43 You want the copper to be bioavailable, You wanted to have the cofactor. Copper doesn't just you just don't puff copper in your mouth and hope that it works. You've got to have rets and all. You have to have enzyme cofactors. Uh. And historically we were got and all of that in our food and we're not able to do that. So that's why we created that kind of unique formulation. There's yeah, yeah, okay, definitely just suggest right, yeah, yeah, we have. We have several several that you've actually helped formulate.

35:26 I believe that are very good. When I look at supplements too, and as you you know, when you've you've been in my store and you've seen our selections as something I do very little with with actual supplements because so many of them on there you're going to, like, as you mentioned Amazon, so many of them have got so many negative components along with that. You're absolutely right that you know it's going to be a problem. And you know, I joked around show a couple of weeks ago that it's interesting that that our country here is magnesium deficient when almost every supplement seems they have magnesium steraryed in it. I mean it's you know, and it's not just because the words there doesn't mean anything.

36:12 No, well, story is not a it's not a really good form of mabem as you know, right, it's really it's it's a lubricant so they can put up the capsules. Not yes, not to fill up your body unfortunately. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, there's I mean, you've got several good formulations. Like you said, we do get some of it out of our foods and on the pet side, I do use a lot of liver on you know, in a lot of them. So are our animals aren't going to be as tied up. But again we you know, as you pointed out, they're breathing all that aluminum that's in the camp trails. It all comes down to the ground.

36:52 We're breathing it in, but they were also walking, you know, walking in it and laying in it and absorbing it through their through their skin, the pads of their feed everything else. So that aluminum is going is they're basically getting you know, double triple dosages that we don't have, that we're not exposed to. And you know, so it's important to look at the same protocol. Actually or our pets. It's absolutely true. And what a very dear friend pointed out is there's only one brand of dog fruit that she's found that doesn't have synthetic vitamin D in only one brand. All the others have some form of supplemental D. Why do animals, Why are they getting supplemental du? It doesn't matter. So it's just it's really unfortunate that even our pets are being exposed to these supplements that I don't think we can justify. Why, why that's happening. Why are they adding vitamin D B. What would be your theory?

37:53 Well, well, of course the core nutrient, the core ingredients that they use in so many processed foods, they just destroy. Everything is destroyed. So you know, it's you know, it's vital that we supplement this, you know, wherever we can with just even with real food. You know, when you look at when you look at at again ultra processed Kibo type foods, you know, they're looking everything is destroyed. On the scientific side, they're just looking at minerals and primarily like four or five minerals that they're trying to balance out and claim that you know, they have to be stringent in these proportions and and everything else. When we know that the body's dynamic, it's always changing, you have to have that flexibility. And you know, as you mentioned, even with the magnantium steroid, it's you know, it's a formula we can't utilize for the nutritional component basically, and uh so it's it's we've just removed so much from their natural diet. And you know, that's it. That's a that's a big argument that's actually going on between the processed foods, you know, the scientific prescription type diets and you know, people like myself that are looking for the most natural, you know, method of feeding our animals. And of course we all you know, the other thing is too with livestock. We have always always provided mineral blocks and mineral boxes and things like that, and you know,

39:25 I remember well back when I was in college, it was also you know that this is back in the sixties, that was that was well known. And when you looked at the pasture and the pastures and that sort of thing back in the in the fifties and sixties, they still because we were still doing the original regenerative type farming. We had minerals in our soil and it was coming up in the in the forage that they were eating. But today, as you mentioned, there's nothing. Well, I guess we should constitute mineral blocks in the restaurants that we. Go to instead of that white that white stuff that they call sault. Right, go and lick on it.

40:05 There. You got the challenges that people are just on an autopilot. They're not thinking about it. I don't blame them. It's like, good heavens, we have to we have to micromanage every part of our lives now. And uh, it's very fatiguing. I get it, and I've had I've had that conversation with hundreds of people over the last fifteen years. It's like, if you really as you say, if you really want to be in charge, you want to want to take responsibility, you've got to be much more involved in the decision making about what you eat. Yeah, I mean we covered a lot here. There's a lot of information here. You know, you say, I know that you've been on your little tour. They're getting the information out. Where can people where should people be looking for you? In the information that you put out. I know you've got your book, which you know and.

40:53 The second addition will be coming out in November. November, we'll be sure to talk about that months. Website RCP one two three dot org. We have social media presence on Facebook, on Instagram, on TikTok, on YouTube now. So we're having a lot of fun getting the word out and we're trying to make it as educational, but as it's entertaining as possible, it's is now small feet, especially when you're bucking the system. We are not a mainstream message. We are the antithesis of the mainstream message because we're telling people stop taking iron supplements, stop taking vitamin C, scorbic acid, stop taking some zinc for heaven's sake, stop taking calcium, and it just it's not an it's not an easy message. But once people understand why we do that, to support greater by available copper, to enable more by available iron, then it makes sense. You got to learn the sequence of the balancing balls to make sure you really understand where we're coming from.

42:05 Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, and you know the service that you're providing. I mean, it's just you know it, it's opened up so many doors, even for myself and I've been you know, in a business a long long time. It's every day, it's it's just something new. And I really enjoy the videos that you've been putting out. You know, they're they're very informative. You're doing a great job with it. You know, we're glad to see that we're sharing them all over the place. So you know, it's just like you know, it's the same problem that we have on a pethouse cafe issue. It's just getting it in front of the people's eyes and letting them here, you know.

42:48 And you know, every time we bring out the message, you know, we bring it out in different ways and talk about it in different different ways. That's the important part because not everybody learns the same rate or with the same you know triggers and that sort of thing. Well, we're at four or five times before. Y Yeah, well as always as hour went by very very quickly. It's always a pleasure to have you on, you know, with what we want to continue this conversation obviously in the very in your future again and yeah, and uh, you know, let's let's make this population of both pets and pet parents healthy again.

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