Nov. 8, 2024

The Problems with Therapeutic ("Prescription") Pet Foods

The Problems with Therapeutic ("Prescription") Pet Foods

The marketing of "Prescription / Therapeutic diets being pushed by the veterinary industry ... is it healthy or risky? We break it down by nutrients, ingredients, motives, and marketing but most importantly, what does this mean for your pets health?...

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The marketing of "Prescription / Therapeutic diets being pushed by the veterinary industry ... is it healthy or risky? We break it down by nutrients, ingredients, motives, and marketing but most importantly, what does this mean for your pets health? The answers are here.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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information only. Content presented on any show by any host

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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.

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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,

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or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet

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Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice. And here's

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your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, And welcome.

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To the Pet Health Cafe to show where your Pet's voice.

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This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and I'm joined

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tonight with my guest host, doctor Michael Dim. How are

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we doing, doc? All right?

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Be nice to be here.

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Yeah, well, a lot of the distractions are behind us

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now that the election's over, and.

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Here we're gonna here. We are going to be talking about.

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Health, which is I guess it's going to be one

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of the focal points in the next year or so,

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let's hope.

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So anyway, Yeah, yeah, hopefully for the better, that's for sure.

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Yeah. That would be nice, wouldn't it. Anyway?

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So again I want to tell people that if the

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chat room is open, they can go ahead and log

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in and ask their questions and make your comments. Go

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ahead and share and like and subscribe on whatever platforms

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you're watching on. Uh, let's get this message out. Tonight's

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message is going to be very, very important for anybody

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that probably has visited a conventional veterinarian in the last

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I don't know, a year, two years, three years, because

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it seems that these there's a major push and uh,

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doctor Jim, you'll be able to really help us out

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with this I'm pushing when are known as therapeutic diets

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or prescription so called prescription diets, and uh, it's it's

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like nobody can walk into into an animal health facility

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now without having a kind of jam down her throat.

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Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean, look, they've got maintenance diets

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in there for everyday living, you know, from uh you know,

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for all the all the breeds. They have large breeds,

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small breed. You know, they have all different breed sizes.

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Now specific bag foods for for you know, different breeds.

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But now, of course we're expanding into the area of

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of of course prescription foods, which means that diets that

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are formulated for various clinical health conditions that are animals face,

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you know, so whether your animal comes in for chronic

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skin or ear disease, or digestive issues or urinary tractive

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issues or you know, behavioral issues, cancer seizures. There's there's

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now diets for for everything. It's it's it's amazing. And

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I know we'll get into the discussion of what these

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diets are made from, but yeah, it's all specialty formulated

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synthetic diets to supposedly help animals with these different chronic conditions.

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Well, one of the things I mean, and I know

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that just to carry your license and that sort of thing,

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is as a doctor of veterinary medicine, you have to

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keep up with certain educational requirements and that sort of thing.

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What's really being taught on the nutritional you know area

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and continuating education or even into that school today, I

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don't think. I don't think the schools have changed very much.

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But what about the continuing education.

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Well, I mean the continuing education, I don't really teach

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us about a nutrition. They just teach us about, you know,

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specific synthetic commercial diets that the pet food companies are

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developing for these various clinical conditions. They're not actually sitting

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down and telling us, well, this particular diet is necessary

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for this carnivore under these conditions because of nutrient A,

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B or C or D. So they really aren't teaching

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us anything. They're just stuffing us down our throats, you know,

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the recommended foods. Because the truth is that we get

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next to no training on nutrition in our medical school training.

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You know, I think I got about a three hour

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course my third year of entery school. And you know

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that hasn't changed after all these decades. So veterinarians still

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are not trained well in nutrition, and we're still telling people,

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you know, what to feed their animals in the allopathic setting,

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based upon what pet food sales reps tell us rather

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than what's ideal for a particular meat eating animal.

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You know, it's interesting, you know, because I've watched this

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whole thing evolve. You know, I first, there's a question

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you just answered, But you know, I was part of

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the industry when basically the specialty diets first started to

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come out in the mid seventies, you know, with you know,

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several you know, major companies. Obviously it got involved ut

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and merely through buyouts, but they were started by small

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companies and but basically it's been nothing more than a

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take off of what was conventional.

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Dry foods.

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Just changing a few ingredients and putting it into a

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fancier bag with a you know, a name, and having

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you know, convincing somebody with a white jacket to push it.

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There's really not a whole lot of difference between most

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of these, is.

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There, No, not at all.

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You're this marketing bill is clever marketing with some pre

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bags and great verbiage, but not really much of a difference.

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Now.

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But one of the things that I found interesting, and

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I told you, you know, when we set up this,

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you know, this show, is there's a couple of things

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that I've really noticed that really I.

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I took some concern to.

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First off, when I look at what's being offered in

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the therapeutic diets that are being pushed by the veterinary industry.

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One particularly class of foods that I found particularly missing

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is there is no offering for a health food or

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a health diet. It's all addressing so called symptoms, symptomatic

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issues for whatever might have been and suspected upon an

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examination or a client's concerns, but nothing just like, hey,

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you know what, you want your dog to be healthy,

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you want to get to be healthy.

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I don't see any of that to you.

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No, No, not at all. No, you're right, right, Yeah.

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It's like it's very concerning to me.

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But the other thing that really concerned me is a

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heavy push on prescribing these therapeutic diocees, so called prescription diets,

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And basically, I look at it is that.

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That industry that's pushing them.

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And I mean I've seen where the emphasis is with

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these companies as well. It's more on that therapeutic side

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than on their general diets that are in mass markets

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or specialty pets stores and food stores and things of

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that nature. But basically, they want all of our pets

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to be sick, don't they.

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Yeah, that's exactly right. They want to be sick so.

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That they can make a food or a drug or

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a medicine to address that problem. It's all one big

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marketing chain bill. It's not about health, it's about sickness,

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and it's you know.

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I mean, I can't rep but I've been in this

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business too long. I just can't.

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I can't wrap my head around wishing that my clients

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animals get sick so that I can give them a

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food and you know, in our case, a good you know,

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a good diet or an herb or in your case,

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of homeopathic remedy or something of that nature, just so

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that we can make money. I mean, it's isn't it

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about the animals overall health and not only the animals health,

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but the health of the owner where we don't have

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to stress out and be worried about Number one, is

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our animal healthy? And number two, if it's diagnosed with anything,

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how am I going to pay for it today?

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Yeah? Yeah?

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The prices are astronomical for managing these chronic diseases in

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our animals here one hundred in right, Bill. So, but

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these foods they certainly are you know, priced way out

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of bounds. And you know it's it's really you know,

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like you said, back from the seventies, you know, there

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was one company right that had you know, a brand

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or two for an upset stomach or for you know,

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a skin or a kidney issue. And now it's like

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these pet food companies have tremendous variation of complex formulas

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that they say are better for our animals when they

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have these various clinical conditions. And you know, typically it's

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would be what's called the novel protein diet.

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You know, that was always the typical.

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You know, way of kind of trying to solve something,

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let's say related to the skin or the digestive tract.

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And so the companies would come up with, you know,

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proteins that animals hadn't been exposed to before and many

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decades ago, remember you usould just be lamb, right, Lamb

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was the only protein, and that's what they said, Oh,

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we don't see laminar foods. But now there's so many

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poor quality, you know, meats that go into these commercial

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foods that now the novel protein has extended into you know,

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all the exotic animals that we've gone over in previous shows,

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from right, kangaroo to ostrich to alligator to you know,

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all these different quote unquote novel proteins Buffalo, I mean,

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I mean, yeah, the list.

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Goes on and on and uh.

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And so, you know, these novel proteins are a big

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thing of a big, a big intervention of my conventional

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vet colleagues to try and solve these chronic diseases, which

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really this, you know, to solve them is quite simple,

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as we go over very often on many of our shows.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean it's you know, first off, you know,

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again we go back to the fact that we're feeding

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a single food for their whole life, and that's one

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of the issues that we really, you know, have a

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major problem with because the body's dynamic, it's always changing,

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it's always going to need something different. But I saw,

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I saw a question pop up here about does it

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does kin these diets actually.

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Cause a problem? Yeah? Can they cause more harm to pats?

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And I wanted the part of this in my notes

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here because I was all over the place with us

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and so I needed you know, I don't usually work

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with any notes, but there are just so many parts

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and pieces of debate that I wanted to make sure

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I covered it all. The number one cause of almost

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all disease, probably all diseases is stress. And you know,

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of course then we look at the toxicity and the

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deficiencies below that stress level. When we look at that,

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when you start feeding a wrong diet, a wrong food product,

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adding chemicals to it, basically the body goes into a

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stress state because now it's got to make something of

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these foods that went in the body. How do I

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digest them? How do I break it down? Is there

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any nutrients? If they are, where are they? The body

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is stressing on all this stuff isn't It.

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Absolutely is, And you're right, you hit the nail on

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the head. I mean, it's stress is the number one

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word here. And of course when we put that stress

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on the body, we're affecting the whole you know, liver, kidney,

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adrenal gland system, you know, the endocrine system, and that

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toxicity leads to that prolonged stress leads to disease in

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these other organ systems, you know, and certainly you know,

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whether it be the liver, the kidneys, or the endocrine system,

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you know, we usually will see eventually adrenal gland problems,

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thyroid issues, pancreatic issues. I mean, the list goes on

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and on just from that one word that you mentioned.

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Yes, yeah, I mean, it's.

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No matter how you look at it, we're putting the

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body into an unnatural state. And you know, I've been

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listening to a couple of podcasters out there that are

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pushing the therapeutic diets, and of course they're talking about ingredients,

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particularly that you know, the.

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People like you and I.

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We we're looking at the ingredients, the fresh foods, the

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living foods, the most natural, species appropriate diet. They're looking

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at nutrients from strictly a biochemical standpoint, and number one,

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when we're looking at it strictly from that biochemical standpoint,

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you're not looking at living food. You're looking at playing

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chemistry set, aren't you.

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That's right.

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Yeah, there's hardly anything living in these synthetic diets. I

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mean they might look wonderful on paper to the manufacturers

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and of the clients, but you know, again, I think

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one of the readers asked the question of the viewers

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asked the question, if you can't understand the ingredients listed

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on the pet food label, then it's probably not something

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we want to be giving to our animals for sure.

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I mean, that's that's definite. I mean, you know, we

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have to look at the number of you know, ingredients.

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I mean, let's face it. You know, even if you're

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looking at just the ingredient label, which is one of

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the common things that they talk about when they're pushing

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the therapeutic diets as well. When usually conventional pet food,

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you know, everybody's looking at, you know, is meet the

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number one and number two or number three ingredient in it?

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But that doesn't mean it's good, you know, and that

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you know, when they cook it, it doesn't really destroy

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all the nutrients, and these chemists know how to rebalance

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in what's been taken out by the cooking process, and

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you know it's much more available, and you know it's

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it's such be asked when I listen to the stuff,

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and you know, and I hate to have to put

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myself through it, but I you know, you have to

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know what the hell they're talking about out there because

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we have to be able to counter it.

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You know.

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It's it's first off, when we look.

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At that mono diet, basically that one food for you

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know that they're giving you that's going to create an

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imbalance no matter what happens, because the body is dynamic.

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What you needed to eat today or what I needed

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to eat today, or two totally different things.

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How can it be the same?

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Right? You know, how do you compensate for that if

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you only have one entree? But the other thing is

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is one of the questions you know, when Okay, your dog,

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we're gonna put your dog on this diet. Okay, we

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found something not wrong with your animal, but they're predisposed

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to it or this breed has.

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So therefore you need to be on this.

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How long does this animal have to be on this

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one entree according to the veterinary industry.

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Right right, yeah, I mean how long does it have

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to be on it?

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If they want you ont it for life?

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That's right, that's right.

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You know they have to keep selling you that bag

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after bag, you after bag, you after can after can,

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That's right, the.

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Same ingredients day in and day out, week after and

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they're toxic ingredients. And and like you said, I mean,

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it's as far removed from an ideal rotating protein diet

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that is essential for good health that there is. So

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it's like, eventually, even if the protein isn't and you

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feed the same thing over and over again, the body

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that got is going to develop a reactivity to it,

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a hypersensitivity to it, and then you're going to get

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a leaky, imbalanced gut, and then that leads to all

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sorts of other systemic issues. So feeding that same protein

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over and over again and that same ingredient is hardly

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a recipe for good health.

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Well, that's that's in that part of what actually creates

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that imbalance, which creates the deficiencies you will, and naturally,

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in many cases, because those are synthetic forms, you're building

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up a great deal of toxicity in that body at

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the same time. So you've got both toxicity and efficiency

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all rolled up into one nice little nugget of cook something.

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Yeah, And you know, and and then even in the

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diets that aren't just one protein, if they're just you know,

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if you look at the quote unquote urinary diets, right,

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I mean, those are just mostly processed grains, you know,

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at grain extracts and other synthetic chemicals in there, added

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to you know, formulate a specific pH of the urine

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that the that the pet food companies are trying to

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get so that you know, animals tend not to develop

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crystals or stones, but it's all so synthetic and toxic,

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as you said. And and even if it's successful at

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ban dating a problem, I tell clients this temporarily, the

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long term price tag like we're talking about here, is

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just tremendous on the whole body's health. Animals started on

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these prescription urinary diets for crystals and bladder problems, those

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are the animals I see that develop premature kidney failure

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early on in life. So there's always a price to

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be paid from these toxic synthetic you.

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Know, you know, I mean That's an interesting one because

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I actually made a notation on that kidney diet as well.

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When you're looking at that.

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Those foods that are supposedly formulated for it, those foods

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don't take into consideration the causes of that kidney failure,

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do they?

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No, No, not at all.

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I mean basically don't.

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Isn't it just a urinary type blends and a kidney blends,

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you know, will add extra salt so they drink more

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in a pemre yea does that su problem?

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Or they add like what DL and the thianine, you know,

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some amino acid so that the pH of.

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The urine goes a certain way. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's just all synthetic manipulation of the foods of

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these animals. And as I said, it's just it may

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bandiate it very briefly, but the you know, and and

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then just the health of the animal if you look

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at their their coat, their skin, their digestion, it all

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just suffers tremendously from just feeding these synthetic diets that

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were developed just to you know, band aid a particular

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weakness and not addressing the causes at all, which we

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talk about all the time on the show. I mean

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the causes of these chronic diseases, which usually is the

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same group of factors we look at and in many

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in many shows.

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Yeah, it's it's you know, like you say, I started,

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you know it before we go to the break here,

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that it's just you know the fact that they want

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to have have and this is the pet food company.

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And of course I don't know how deeply the veterinary

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industry is buying into it, but the pet food company

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wants your animal to be sick, and so I can

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sell this diet. We'll be right back after this quick break,

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and I got a lot more questions for you.

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We're back here in a pet health cafe to show

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where your pet as a voice does is built the

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Pet Health Gurule along with doctor Michael dim and we're

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talking about therapeutic diets and actually diets in general, but

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the therapeutic ones, like I said, because it's being pushed

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so heavily by the veterinary industry as much concerning because

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let's face it, the average pet owners looking for answers

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and they've been told to look for a veterinarian. You know,

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you know yourself, and then you know because you'd have

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been a fishery of some of it, because you know,

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we work together for so long. But if somebody wants

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to has a problem animal and they want to look

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for a natural solution, there really is.

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You're going to look for.

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Somebody that's referring a holistic veterinarian, which that's a very

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very broad term, as you know, and they're not looking

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there is no classification basically for people like myself. What

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am I I'm a you know, you don't look for

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a pet nutrition is for the most part, people don't

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even realize that there is such a thing. You're not

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looking for a food specialist for pets, you know, so

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they have to go to people like yourself. And of

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course there there's a lot of at this moment in time,

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there's a lot of celebrity vets out there that are

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claiming to do what we do. And it creates a

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little bit of a problem with the consumers because you know,

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most of them are trying to come out with their

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own products, which is doesn't more than an extension of

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this mono diet, not so much therapeutic, but their own

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formulation that they're that they're having made of, you know,

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one or two diets, one or two freeze dried foods

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or drive foods.

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I was just going to mention that I see I'm

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watching on Fox TV the other day and there's a

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famous veterinaria and I know for many decades retired there

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right on the TV. The I don't know if you

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saw Pushing, I mention the name Pushing the it's freeze dried,

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it's freeze dried diets you know, so it's it's yeah,

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you have all these these sudden you know, it's it's

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it's come so far Bill from you know, when my teacher,

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doctor Pittcaron wrote his first edition of his book, which

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I know his diets weren't ideal from your you know,

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obviously that's a whole other discussion. He was one of

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the first people in the country several decades ago to

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preach a raw diet or our animals.

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And back then, what did you have.

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You had to go to the store and buy the

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meat and chop up the you know, grind up the

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bone and do it yourself. And just look how far

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I mean, it's it's it's good and it's bad. But

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it's how far the industry has become and so much

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quote unquote new you know ways of feeding a fresh diet,

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and there's so many you know, misinformation out there as

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you go.

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Over all the time.

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And so it's really I mean, you know, technology and advancement,

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you know, comes with its price tag.

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Yeah. One of the things, and.

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This kind of goes back to what we were talking about,

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is when they're formulating these these especially these therapeutic diets,

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and you know, they accuse us.

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Well, we're looking at the ingredients.

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You know, you're looking for the meat, and you're looking

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for the carnivore palaeo diet and that sort of thing,

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but that the nutrients are much more expensive, are much

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more important. But when you're looking at the nutrients in

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these foods, they're not the food. These are some basically supplements.

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They're they're the ingredients, are actually additives, not actually the food.

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And you have to ask yourself, what is the food?

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There is no food in these diets.

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Right, right, And you know when I look at it,

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I also I've and this has been a question I've

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had in pet foods forever. Why is it that if

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these are such great foods, these great ingredients they put

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into pet foods, why don't you.

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See them on the supermarket shelves for us?

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Yeah? Good point.

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You can't buy corn gluten meal cant by. You can't buy.

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Hydrolyzed chicken at the butcher shop, getn't you?

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Oh no, I was just gonna mention. You can buy

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hydrolyzed protein for our infants and our toddlers. Right, it's

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right in the in the synthetic milk aisle. Right, those

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are those those milk products that they've developed for calagy

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kids from hydrolyzed protein diets. So that's one exception, you know,

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for you know, that's kind of where I think the

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vendary industry kind of came along with their idea of

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the hydrolyzed, broken down synthetic protein, you know, was from

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the human industry, that side of the industry where you know,

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like you said, for the form of the infant formulas.

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Well, it's interesting that.

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The only foods that are really regulated by the federal government,

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by the FDA, are infant formulas, right, So the government

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is telling you that that's good, not the consumers, not

468
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mother nature, if you will. Of the things I wanted

469
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.359
to I want to insrupture because something that just come up,

470
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.519
and a lot of these diets are actually labeled like

471
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.240
this is the is the reality of if the product

472
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:19.519
of the diet says with or and the ingredient such

473
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.839
as you know, a dog food that is.

474
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:26.759
And this is web major.

475
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.720
Just to give an example, I'm not gonna mention the manufacturer,

476
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.279
but on their label the food is labeled as lean muscle.

477
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:42.559
Support with real beef with real beef. Now, the requirement.

478
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.440
For that using that term with is that it must

479
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.960
be three percent or.

480
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.160
More of the diet. That's it.

481
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:57.960
Wow, three percent Okay. Now you also have to understand

482
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.200
that with real beef, if it's saying beef that is

483
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:07.240
in the wet form, not in their drive form. So

484
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:13.000
actually that diet contains less than one percent real meat

485
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.160
when all is said and done.

486
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:16.880
Yeah, amazing, isn't it?

487
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.240
And of course I have to go back then and

488
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.000
we have to explain that dogies and cats are carnivores,

489
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.839
you know, they need that. One of the things that

490
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:29.799
you talk you know, when in general will mention a

491
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.039
lot of these diets too. You talk about the novel

492
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.000
proteins and the different proteins.

493
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:39.920
But the diet isn't about protein. I mean, protein is

494
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.680
a small portion of the foods.

495
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.720
Even when you look at meat, meat is only about

496
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.839
eight raw meat is only about eighteen twenty percent protein. Right,

497
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:52.039
we have to look at the whole plethora of vitamins

498
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.240
and minerals, the enzymes that are in raw foods.

499
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.119
And of course what's probably more important.

500
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:05.079
Then that protein content is the fatty acids, the fat,

501
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.759
the type of fat, and if if it's a metabolically

502
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:15.319
usable fat, because basically dogs and cats. Most carnivores burn fats, ketones,

503
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:21.880
not carves, not sugars, right right, And yet the fat

504
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.559
kind of get pushed off to the side, don't they.

505
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.480
Yeah, they sure do. That's an excellent point though. Yeah.

506
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.359
And of course, you know, one of the things you

507
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.440
mentioned with the animals that are on these diets, you

508
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.640
can tell that they're on these diets just by looking

509
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.319
at the skinning coat. Where does that Where do those

510
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:44.680
fatty acids get used to a great extent, Absolutely, skin

511
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.319
coat joints, you know, joint health, all that stuff. I mean,

512
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:50.920
there's omega threes.

513
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:55.200
And nines are so they're I mean, they're vital, aren't they.

514
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:56.400
They sure are.

515
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.319
You know you mentioned the organ systems, the brain, the heart,

516
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.759
you know, early organ systems, the joints.

517
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:05.480
Yeah, I mean, if.

518
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.319
We don't have that, they don't have that balance of

519
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.720
omega three, omega nines, you know, you're gonna have unhealthy,

520
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.519
unhealthy body systems, you know, in those areas.

521
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.279
So, and of course the other thing is when we

522
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.279
look at those fatty acids, you can't put those into

523
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:20.799
a dry food without a.

524
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.480
Ton of preservatives to keep them from turning rancid.

525
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.079
Right from the cooking, from the heating. Yeah.

526
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.880
So yeah, And of course the cooking process breaks that

527
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:36.079
down tremendously. And I know on the average therapeutic diet

528
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.279
there are sometimes six to ten different cooking processes before

529
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:42.480
the final product.

530
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:43.519
Absolutely.

531
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.039
Yeah, they say it's not a problem. It's not a problem.

532
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.960
Ask your veterinarian, you know, don't We don't know.

533
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.480
We just I guess I recapitulate what they tell us

534
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.359
that I don't go to these meetings anymore. For the

535
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.720
most part, they actually came up with the past few

536
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.200
years that vets don't have to go for the past

537
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.640
year that uh, in Florida, you don't need to go

538
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.319
for continuing education on this stuff anymore. I don't have

539
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.359
to sit there and watch this stuff.

540
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:14.839
You know.

541
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.519
It's it's it doesn't make any sense if we want

542
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.240
to healthy animals, does it to be following these these

543
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.440
these so called practices that are supposed to be practice.

544
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.599
How many times do you get a client bill comes in,

545
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.680
I'm sure to the store, I get them all the time. Well,

546
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.400
my animal has to be on the specific urinary diet.

547
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.400
What can you recommend form me warm meat wise? That

548
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.440
will mimic that right that they we get all the time. Yeah,

549
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.559
that we we need to come up with our own

550
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.599
prescription raw meat diet.

551
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.720
That is for the urinary or the well.

552
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.359
I mean see, I mean because I have the kitchen

553
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.119
behind me that I could just go in and get

554
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.720
their diet. I could literally go back and then okay,

555
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.839
I'm on this diet. Okay, we look at the ingredient label.

556
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.119
I can how much you feed. You're feeding a pound

557
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.519
a day. I can go pick up one piece of

558
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.599
strew meat and put it in a dishes. That's that's

559
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:15.440
your meat equivalent to what you're feeding today. I mean,

560
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.000
it seems ridiculous, but that's really what it is, right.

561
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:30.680
You know, you can't substitute on a ingredient label a

562
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.319
specific meat that's going to cover what the corn is,

563
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.200
or what the barley is, or what the soy is.

564
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.920
There is no equivalency there at all.

565
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.200
And this is crazy.

566
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.559
It is and it's and it's expanding. As I said,

567
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.960
it's not just like I said, you know, twenty thirty

568
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.160
years ago, it was just you know, one one version

569
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.200
of a skin diet, one version of the GI diet,

570
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.799
one version of a kidney die now there's these companies

571
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.640
of books. I've seen binders, you know, of different food

572
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.159
formulations that they've come up with, and I don't even

573
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.519
follow it anymore. It's just like you know, I I

574
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.079
I go back to, like I said, the simple ones

575
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:18.159
where I remember kd id ud you know those kind

576
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:19.039
of ye.

577
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.440
The other thing is when you look at even those

578
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.000
and you're under a minute here before the next break,

579
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.880
But when we even look at those, those ingredient panels

580
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:33.679
change sometimes from printing to printing.

581
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:35.599
Yes, And I said it that.

582
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:43.000
Way because the way the pet food law is prescribed,

583
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.920
if you will, is that you can change the formulation

584
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.559
depending on what ingredients are available, on prices and stuff

585
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:52.000
like that.

586
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:53.440
But if you still have.

587
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.599
Bags from the old with the old ingredient label on it,

588
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:00.119
you can keep using them until they're gone. So you

589
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.360
you really have no idea what ingredients are really in

590
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.920
that bag at any given point in time, which is

591
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.719
really disturbing. Where against another break here and we'll be

592
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.960
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When we're back here in a petit healthy fae, you

614
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or your pedit Voice. This is Bill the pedals Guru

615
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.760
along with doctor Michael dimm and we are discussing diets

616
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:13.960
and specifically therapeutic diets. And it's again I want to

617
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.199
remind people that can jump into chat here. I know

618
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.360
we have a couple of questions we probably still need

619
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.440
to get back to when if they pop back up.

620
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.280
I mentioned that about the the foods with the with

621
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.840
an and equivalency.

622
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.119
I just looked up the numbers. If you were to

623
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:34.519
feed a thirty.

624
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.960
Pound dog normally, it would have about three cups of

625
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.920
dog food a day. The manufacturer is only required to

626
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:50.480
include an estimated zero point three six ounces of real beef.

627
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.639
In three cups of food.

628
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.639
Now you know we're looking at this, I mean the

629
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.400
deception of the manufacturer of the food. And then you've

630
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:07.159
got a an industry, if you will, the veterinary industry

631
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:14.480
that claims to be animal health perpetuating the benefits of

632
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:23.199
this diet. And it it it just doesn't register with

633
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:27.679
my brain. How how in good conscience a corporation can

634
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.440
do this, even even an individual veterinarian. I know you

635
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.000
have your conflicts with a lot, you just you just

636
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.960
kind of keep yourself but it's got to bother you.

637
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.280
It sure does, you know. I mean, not to mention Bill,

638
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.519
you know, whenever we're feeding these synthetic grain based diets,

639
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.280
I mean the amount of inflammation that occurs in the

640
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.280
gut just from doing that, and as I mentioned earlier,

641
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:56.559
the the tremendous imbalance and dys biosis as it's called,

642
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:00.920
that occurs. And when that gut is imbalanced, whether it's

643
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.199
from these foods or vaccines or any other chemical stresses,

644
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.119
what happens is it opens up the whole gateway to

645
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.320
the body for systemic disease elsewhere biochemically. So you know,

646
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.440
we look at it from that perspective too. It's just

647
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.119
it's the quality of the ingredients and then the inflammation

648
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:21.079
that it's creating when they're fed.

649
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.159
Yeah, well that is what we opened up with too.

650
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.239
I mean, it stresses the major cause of disease. And

651
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.400
you know, whatever cause the inflammation obviously stress the body

652
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.800
in the first place. To create that inflammation to try

653
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.159
to repair or compensate, isn't that what the inflammation is

654
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.760
really trying to do? And so why do we keep

655
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.639
why do we keep doing this to our pets? You know,

656
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.639
I listened to some of the supplement ads that are

657
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.840
on the radio and on TV and that sort of

658
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.519
thing with they talk about dry food is dead food.

659
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.920
So I add this from my dog anxiety every day

660
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.800
and he really really loves it. And I have to

661
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.679
stop and think, if you know it's dead food, if

662
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.159
you know it's garbage food. I know you're hawking this

663
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.960
supplement over here, but why would you continue to do that?

664
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:18.800
Right? Right?

665
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:24.960
Where's the common sense? Where really where's the compassion of

666
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.519
the pet owner to do the best for.

667
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.440
Their animal right? I mean, you know we.

668
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.559
Look for the best in the olders, and I mean

669
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.960
I know you have it whenever you have a consultation,

670
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:37.679
I have to go through the same thing.

671
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.800
It's they are. They've been programmed so far.

672
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.599
To the abstract if you will, that the animals can

673
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:50.199
only eat what comes out of a bag or a

674
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.440
box or a can, that they have no But we're

675
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:56.159
seeing the same thing with our kids today too.

676
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.519
You know. Unfortunately, you know, our whole food system.

677
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.159
I mean that's a big part of what was going

678
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.599
on even during the election that he's talking about.

679
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.760
You know, the foods that you know.

680
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:15.960
The the food ingredient labels, for any given food in

681
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.519
the United States compared to what's in other countries Canada

682
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.440
or Europe or that's really I saw podcasts this morning

683
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.840
talking about the FDA going to start to go after

684
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:31.719
some of these food additives. There's over ten thousand ingredients

685
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.079
that are in our food supply, not just pet supply,

686
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:35.599
but you know pets, because it's going to be an

687
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.360
area as well, but in our human food supply in

688
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:44.119
the United States that are never listed. Ten thousand ingredients,

689
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:44.760
most of which.

690
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:45.639
Are harmful chemicals.

691
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.079
Wow, that's amazing, the sheer numbers.

692
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:50.920
And it's you know, when you.

693
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.000
Look at it, if you look at okay, let's look

694
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.199
at these therapeutic ties, the so called number of dollars

695
00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:00.239
that they've invested to come up with these things that

696
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.079
they should be be they should be so much superior

697
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.480
to you know, and you know, give your dog a bone.

698
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.400
You know that diet, I mean, you know, the original

699
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.400
you know row who diets. And yet when you look

700
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.800
at results, when you look at animals themselves, you have

701
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.400
to be able to tell the difference.

702
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.280
You know, it's amazing, you know, it's a huge, huge difference,

703
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.800
just like when you look at a you know, an

704
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.639
intact animal versus a surgically sterilized animal. The body, the

705
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.239
whole conformation the animals different. That's just from a hormonal factor.

706
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.360
When you look like you see the same thing. It's

707
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.840
just the whole, the whole anatomy of the animal is different,

708
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:52.039
and they're just they there's a different Yeah, it's different.

709
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:53.639
Yeah, well that's what I mean.

710
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:55.159
You know, I talk about that a lot when I'm

711
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.519
know what I'm explaining to people because basically the emphasis

712
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:06.360
on uh you know, the teaching in that school and

713
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even in the animal sciences today, there's very little emphasis

714
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on the on the true on what should be a

715
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.800
good anatomy and what the true physiology of that animal

716
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.800
is and you know, how the animal works. We've got

717
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.480
a couple of questions that are popping up here that

718
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we should, yeah, we should, you know.

719
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We should probably address the.

720
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Truth is thought that even though the commercial i mean,

721
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you know, they've been developing these diets for decades, our

722
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.480
animals health is worse now than it ever has ever been,

723
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.199
you know, atric so just look at it that way.

724
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.840
We don't have healthier animals. So anyway, just looking back to.

725
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The question, yeah, I mean you look at the lifespan.

726
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.639
You know, dogs and cats should be living twenty thirty

727
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.480
years or more, and yet the average when you talk

728
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:55.400
to the average veterinarian, it's.

729
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.960
Six eight, ten years, twelve years.

730
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.159
Maybe bioengineered in range.

731
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:03.239
What do they mean by that? You know, that's a

732
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that's a good one.

733
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.559
I mean, basically, I just saw popped up on one

734
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of my feeds today about the pet food industry that

735
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they're seriously looking at the use of insects and cat

736
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.960
foods as a main protein source. I mean, yeah, cantilely

737
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.960
a bug now and then, but I think they're more

738
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:30.320
interested in mice and rats and uh down here in Florida, lizards. Yeah,

739
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and and and it's funny too, because you know, for

740
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:39.960
the most part, they they instinctively know what animals are

741
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.639
as a as a predator. They know what prey animals

742
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.159
are healthy and which ones aren't. They stay away from

743
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.920
animals that basically aren't healthy, you know, like the bouffo

744
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.920
frogs and things of that nature. They just instinctively know.

745
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.039
You know, those happen to be a problem with our

746
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.960
dogs because they're deficient in the in the beginning.

747
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:04.960
So they're looking for nutrients wherever they can.

748
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.840
And it's not only just you know things like like

749
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.159
toads and frogs and things of that nature, but how

750
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.000
many of them are eating drywall and shoes and you know,

751
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.599
underwear and socks and you know all these good things

752
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.360
that veterinarians get to extract when they do you know,

753
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:27.480
you know, intestinal blockages. It's like it's that's not something

754
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.719
that that would normally happen in a healthy animal, is it.

755
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.639
No, No, not at all.

756
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.000
I mean, it's just the whole industry has just been

757
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:39.400
monopolized and taken over by just huge business. Whether it's

758
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.119
the foods, I mean, I just want to summarize with that,

759
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:45.199
whether it's the foods or the you know the complexities

760
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:53.320
of it, and even the ownership of veterinary hospitals all complex, corporate, complicated,

761
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:54.320
profit driven.

762
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.239
It's just it's it's very tragic. Very said.

763
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.599
So there's something stuff because we're in the last couple

764
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.239
of minutes here, what would be your recommendation for somebody

765
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.239
that's that's confronted with you need to feed.

766
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.199
You know, you're in practice, so you have to hear

767
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.039
it and you're going to have an answer to it.

768
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.599
So I just give them my one sentence blanket answer

769
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.760
which I've learned from you, in which I've said for years,

770
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:24.320
which is feed a species appropriate rotating warm meat protein

771
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.639
diet and ignore all the rest, and your animal will

772
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.400
be here and you and you're gonna have a lot

773
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.760
healthier than animal with a lot less chronic disease.

774
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:32.960
Yeah.

775
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:34.800
I don't know if you saw that last question.

776
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.079
Why do they like the dirty crotch of the underwear,

777
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.920
that's the most personal part. It's probably got more enzymes

778
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:46.719
and more secretions and other bodily fluids in it that

779
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:50.320
are probably more natural than what they would find in nature. Yes,

780
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.119
that's probably the only way we do it. We're in

781
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.679
the last couple of seconds here. Where can people reach

782
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.320
you and how can we make their pets healthier?

783
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.039
I think go to my website which is doctor dim

784
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.480
dot com d O C T O R D y

785
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.639
M dot com that has information. In my practice, I

786
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.960
see people locally in South Florida, and I also do

787
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.519
tell them medicine nationwide and much of what we talk

788
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.559
about in terms of health, both in disease prevention and treatment.

789
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:18.920
We don't have to really have to see the animal

790
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.840
in person, so It's always great to meet the guardian

791
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.920
and the and the animal. But a lot of what

792
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:28.039
we do ABOILT is education and uh, you know, informing

793
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:28.639
our clients.

794
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.480
Yeah, I mean that's so so important, of course, you know,

795
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:34.800
uh I you I work out of our sponsor for

796
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my paleopt I'm there. U it seems like when I'm

797
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.800
in there, when we're open, I'm on the floor just

798
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.079
uh just pouring out information and answering questions. And I'm

799
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.239
was joking around with the girls before I left tonight

800
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.960
that I've already done four shows in the store, so

801
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:50.760
I'm ready for.

802
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:51.639
The fifth one.

803
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.599
Because the questions that I mean, they just keep coming in,

804
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.679
coming in and coming in. And of course we are

805
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.000
seeing a little bit of optimism that things are going

806
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:04.159
to get better. You know, there's gonna be more emphasis

807
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.440
on healthy foods, and hopefully that's the.

808
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.800
Direction we're going to go. With that being said, you know,

809
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:10.719
another great show.

810
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.599
I think a lot of information that people can take away,

811
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share what they're share with your friends, share it on

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all social media. And I'll be back again next week

813
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.920
with another show. And thank you for watching, and thank

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you for listening.

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