The Future and New Reality of Pet Health

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe, where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, to show where your pet has a voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru.

0:47 I'm supposed to have a special guest tonight. He's delayed in getting onto the show. We'll just bring him in when he's free and available. I do want to, as always, remind people who share the link to this show to subscribe so that we build up our algorithms and that you don't miss a single episode like it on whatever platform you're listening, and we are on literally multiple outlets, bolt of video and hundreds developlets on the audio. It is available in a rerun side of it twenty four to seven. So if you happen to miss or your friends happen to miss it, make sure that they tune in.

1:31 We try to listen by topics. So if your friends happens to have cancer, you know, you can look up all the cancer shows. If they're nutritional, we can look at that autoimmune. We try to keep it the titles somewhat explanatory, and usually there's a write up, especially if you're looking on the audio part of it. One of the things I did want to bring up before I get started is in my search heare for excellence, I wanted to let people know about my dedication for basically reforming the animal health industry. It's important that we do this stuff for our animals, our pets, and of course even ourselves now because since we incorporate so much of what we do into human health as well, veterinary medicine, the pet food industry, even pets supply industry, they need to now start to focus more on the animals' real needs and less at being just a commodity, just something to sell you just you know, just not another diet that does not work, another vet procedure that tells us nothing, and of course tons and tons of treats and toys, many of which are very very dangerous. So we need to take another look at this and startling start looking at it as the animal health industry, not as thevet

3:02 medicine or the pet industry. And with that being said, I want to start on the topic of tonight, which is label as a new reality of pet health. And basically what I want to do is start looking into the future, if you will, what's going to be in store for pet owners and their pets, because this is going to be very very critical, I believe, in the next three, four or five years. As we're all aware, if you own a pat there's a lot of pressure to apply a lot of medical information and care to that animal, much of which really is not necessary. This results, of course in very very high veterinarials financial success of course for the animal hospitals and veterinarians that are involved, although it's more of the hospital since a majority of them are now being run by big industry, you know, the biggest of course being and I hate to mention names, but the Martyrs Candy family owns multiple brands, actually toads of brands of pet foods, They own multiple brands of veterinary hospitals. They have bought the veterinary testing labs, and because of this they have created basically what's known as a vertical market, so they control your whole pat's care.

4:34 They dictate when you should see veterinarians for what kind of procedures, what kind of testing, obviously since they sell the testing, what kinds of diets to put your animal on, and based on computer models, basically not so much as hands on veterinary care anymore. It also creates a whole other issue with any kind of relationship with veterinarian because you know, they've bought up many, many small practices that were run by even some very very good clinician type veterinarians that could do diagnostic work, dues, you know, the whole plestor of treatment and everything else. And they when they sell out, they have to work for that hospital that chain for a certain length of time, and generally speaking, as soon as that contract is up, they're gone and either starting a brand new practice or retiring or changing professions.

5:33 It's not the same as it was fifty years ago when I started in this business, not even close. And this is going to create even more problems. As we moved down the roadway of animal health, everything has become so specialized that a veterinarian no longer is pinpointing any real diagnostic result and making it some You know, it's now routine that you must see must see your animal practitioner on a regular basis, like every six months. Some of them are requiring every three months. That's a lot of money, and of course a lot of its disguise is so called wellness checks. I don't know if anybody's out there. I forgot to mention that the chat room is open, and I'd love to hear some of your experiences.

6:25 But rarely can you go into an animal hospital for a wellness check and not have diagnostics done, medications, prescribed diets, prescribed preventatives prescribed, so that ninety nine dollars wellness check can sometimes cost you over a thousand dollars. We've seen several cases here recently which was a simple diagnosis for us. The veterinarians that were involved created a lot of fear that if they if the owners didn't do what they said, even though they could not diagnosed as a disease or a actually any pathology that this animal was suffering from.

7:11 The owners spent over thirty thousand dollars and yes, the dog passed away without ever having a diagnosis. These are the things that sad me because we had reviewed the symptoms and that sort of thing, and it was obviously, from my standpoint my opinion, a toxicity problem. The dog got into some sort of poison. The symptoms were right, but there were multiple diagnoses, MRIs, cat scans, X rays performed, all kinds of drugs inflicted. When we don't even know what we're dealing with, how can you prescribe a treatment plan if you have no idea what's going on? And when we look at something, and if you've taken a approach like I do, based on what I know about the environment, what I know about the food additives, what I know about what certain preventatives do that are all very very toxic, the first thing we should be looking at is toxicity. However, the veterinary industry rarely talks about toxicity because they're in the market of selling toxins. You know, very few veterinarians are willing to go out on a limb and tell you that something that was prescribed, whether it's some sort of prevention in any form, any food that's been prescribed, that it has a lot of toxic chemicals in it, or any procedure that is harmful. I mean,

8:46 you have to realize the simplest things like dentals and X rays, and obviously there are various scands quite often require things like anesthesia, even if it's a local, and those are more toxins in the body. But yet they do not prescribe any type of therapeutic, if you will, for detoxification. Generally speaking, when you go in, especially if you have a sick animal, quite often you're referred first off to an emergency clinic, which costs you a lot of extra money. And when that happens, that's additional expenses. Okay, I understand that our guest is here, so at this point in time, I want to introduce doctor Michael dimm and I'm glad you finally made it. How you doing, I don't know, can you hear me? I don't know that we have audio or you have a picture, but no, okay, I see a movement. Okay, evidently we have a bad signal to start with. Hopefully he'll be on here in a few seconds. We can get through these technical aspects of it, because I know there were several topics when I talk to him that he wanted to get into in depth. But the high cost of animal care is becoming crazy. And of course, as I mentioned my dedication to animal health and reforming, it involves not only the veterinary care, but other things like grooming care as well.

10:17 You know, if we don't feed our animals a species appropriate diet, we end up with skin problems, everything from just dry skin and itching and scratching to a bad coat, a bad coat texture and feel. The use that of harsh grooming items can add to it. And again this increases the overall cost. And as I've mentioned in previous shows, you know, if you're doing an adoption, if you're doing a rescue, if you're even just seeking out a puppy or even a kitten for your own pat understand that you need to work the cost of that animal into your budget. Which I'm saying, if you look at ressuing a large dog, do you have the resources to be able to feed that dog a species appropriate diet? It's not the cheapest stuff. Does the animal already have pre existing conditions that you're going to have to try to rectify or manage? There's an expense there. If it's a long haired breed, you have to factor in that regular grooming bill. If you travel a lot, what about boarding?

11:36 What about care while you're away that sitters things of that nature. And then when you look at that are special foods required by these facilities. If let's say, if you're feeding a raw diet, do they allow that food to be fed in that facility? Many of them don't. Many of them will not raw feed their philosophy. Many of them require more altitudes of vaccine. If you're a minimal vaxer, that can be an added expense to the whole thing. And of course, on the other side of that, you're boarding the animals, so that facility is now looking at the care and if something is wrong, if there is an adverse event, if there is a problem with any of this, you could be hit with a very very large bill, and not only that, a treatment plan that is counter to what you do, especially if you're on a more holistic path, a more natural pathic path.

12:39 I've seen animals that, with six months or a year's worth of therapy to get them in basically a very very healthy state, be completely undone. With one visit to an emergency clinic for something as simple as diarrhea or vomiting or a combination. There the owner's panic. They're sold a basically a fear package that if you don't do this, this, and this, the animal may die and thousands of dollars later and receiving a sicker beet back are very much a reality. So making sure that you budget in that expense for those they have the animal on a good, healthy plane to start with is crucial. I saw a video at a friend of mine sent me yesterday to kind of illustrates how we have to be very very careful even in the breedge we pick, and the audio that he put with at was there was a picture of several border colligues in the country basically going out to bring back the sheep. Now, if you've ever seen one of these, they're given a command and these dogs literally fly, I mean they just start running out right, are working that field back and forth. They never stop.

14:03 It's like a bundle of kinetic energy in a free body. They never stopped. They never stopped. They know the commands, they know what to do. Their focus is crystal clear what they're born to move. How well do you think that animal will do in an apartment with a person that works twelve hours, eight hours a day and gets walked on the end of a leash two or three times a day or night. It's not going to burn off that energy. It's not going to be happy, it's not going to be doing the job that it was bred to do. So that's a major portion of what we have to consider. And this is why I said the future of animal health is going to ever be changing. Now, do we have doctor dim again? If so, let's see what we can do this time. How are you doing, Doc?

15:00 All right? I don't know how good the reception is, but how you doing well? It's better than it was on your first attempt, so let me put it that way. Yeah, yeah, well I know I'm trying to find a place. Yeah, we got a minute before the first break here. So I was just talking about the major thing. I don't know if you heard any of it or not, but talking about as we move forward in the future, about the cost of veterinary care going up up up. Uh. You know, the you know, picking breeds, whether it be a rescue, whether it be a you know, buying a puppy or a kitten that meets the lifestyle and your economic status, because you're going to be faced with you know, if you go a more holistic route. Obviously. You know, if you're getting big dogs, you're going to have to feed a lot of meat, which is not cheap, you know, and other breeds. You know, if they've got any kind of pre existing problems, if there are some of the breeds that are genetic res, you might have other veterinary expenses that you're going to have to be dealing with.

16:03 So the expense is going to be one of the first things. And when we come back, I want to talk about some of the things that that money is going to be spent time. We'll be right back after this quick break. Does your pets suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, poor joint and skin problems. These can be from poor nutrition, and my Paleo Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet we provide fresh human brain USDA approved biocomplete raw food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for pets, we provide you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life. Our raw food for pets surpasses traditional raw dog food and cat food that you find in your local pet store. Our raw food is made fresh on the premises, source from local suppliers, and are made with only the utmost quality with specific nutritional and functional benefits.

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19:07 At a Yeah, I'm at a homeopathy meeting in Arizona. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one I go to periodically. It's actually since twenty three years they've been having this meeting here, so I've been to many of them over the years. Haven't been in a few years, but you know, made the trip this time and that's always great to bather with other like minded colleagues and here's some good lectures and hopefully it's some new information. Well, how can you get new information. Homeopathy has been around for centuries, hasn't it. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, just different ways of analyzing cases and different remedy perspectives, so you know, there's always new knowledge and exp clinical experience, so that right is often you know what's added to the presentations.

19:55 Yeah. Well, as I alluded to when we went to the break, of course, looking at the you know, what's the high vet bills that people that ped owners are going to be looking at in the very near future. Actually many of them are looking at them today. And one of the things that you brought up in our telephone conversation before this, of course, is the overdiagnosis of the use of diagnostics actually on our paths, and I mean the number of tests that are being run. I gave an experience that we just recently had where uh dog vomiting diarrhea and appeared to be in pain. My first thought was the dog was poisoned. The diagnosis included nothing concerning poisoning at all. First they diagnosed at the generative disc disease. Uh, then it was we don't know that it's not what it was. Went through of course, all the different blood works, multiple multiple times, several different vets, X rays showed nothing, CASKID and showed nothing, MRI showed nothing, and in less than a month's time the dog was dead.

21:06 Oh wow. And the number of drugs that were prescribed was just I mean, and I made myself a note here. If you haven't diagnosed anything, how do you prescribe drugs? That's exactly right. So yeah, the whole tenetive conventional allopathic medicine is to run tests and make a diagnosis. And you know, from a homeopathic perspective, holistically speaking, the diagnosis is erroneous. It's actually and I don't know, obviously, you have your perspective on what the symptoms represent, which often is toxicity and something environmental. But you know, homeopathically we look at the symptoms in a similar way. But as you know, just the body's expression of imbalance, and we don't need a diagnosis to prescribe individualized remedies to address that symptom totality picture. So the choice of the remedy to bring the body back into homeostasis or balance is actually, you know, not based on any diagnosis. In fact, the diagnosis or the pathology relevant, whether you're talking about dis disease cancer, and people say, well, well, how do you how do you treat cases that are that you don't have that you know, don't you need that information? And it's not. We just we look at the individual expressions of that patient's symptoms and sounds like this one had some strong symptoms, and we match your remedy to those symptoms to bring again the body back into balance, or a series of remedies over days to weeks, you know.

22:38 So again the diagnosis is really irrelevant homeopathically speaking. You know. The interesting thing and of course one of the reasons why I jumped it came to the conclusion that I did, is it came on very very acutely. I mean, it was like overnight and the animal, we know, had gotten into some trash, but it was on a raw diet. And of course the first diagnosis was obviously the raw diet caused it, all right, But that I mean, if the symptoms continued, you know, for almost a month with all this treatment and everything else, and of course they weren't feeding raw after that point, doesn't that to spell that initial response.

23:23 Absolutely yeah, because you know, if it was from the diet it, you know, it would have came and went. It wouldn't have lingered like that, you know, it sounds to me. I mean, that would have been a great case to treatment with homeopathy if it was a poisoning or toxicity. Sometimes something as simple as an appropriately prescribed remedy based upon that symptom picture would have treated that dog right then and there and brought it and brought them back to health. Yeah. Well that again, that goes back to the high vet builds. I mean, they're they're just doing their there and again you made this the overdiag not the overuse of diagnosis. What kinds of things are you seeing for in the next couple of years that the conventional allopathic model is going to be doing well.

24:07 I mean it's even now, it's well the wave of the future. It's just you know, going from one specialist to the next. If let's say, like you said, they diagnosed disk disease, but you know, obviously the symptoms you're describing don't even match you know, pathology of the of the spinal cord, you know, so it's like why why go down that path? But you know, but there's increasing you know, animals now or being you know, there are running increasing numbers of blood tests and infectious organisms that aren't even relevant. And then if that's not finding out the problem, then we're going to ultrasounds and see T scans and MRIs and you know, it just keeps going and going, and those tests are thousands and thousands of dollars billing. So you know, your dog, let's say that comes in with you know, they say it has neurologic symptoms.

25:00 They're not just going home with the premi zone anymore. They're being referred to neurologists for thousands of dollars in workups. And then they end up on the same medications anyway, whether it's you know, seizure medications. If it's a seizureing animal, you know, they get worked up and you know, and very often you know, they're looking for some odd thing in the nervous system. And most of the time we diagnose epilepsy, which is seizures of unknown origin. And you know, again they go on the same group of anti convulsion medications to you know, to suppress the symptoms if they're able. And but you know, you really don't need to do all this testing. It's just it doesn't lead anywhere as you as you brought out with this other this other case.

25:42 Yeah, I mean that's you know, one of the biggest things because in this particular one they ran a bill of over thirty thousand dollars in a month. Well, you know, and these are young you know, young, much younger than me, you know, struggling to make ends meet. I mean, how you do that? And you know they're it's and. Even really it's madness. Yeah, and then not getting an answer, and you know, in the in the very end, uh there, we're going to have an ee cropsy done. I'm waiting for the results on that to come in and uh, you know, hopefully you know, we'll be able to get some some light on it. But one of the things that I did bring up in the first segment two is this toxicity thing that we know the number of chemicals that are in the air. You know, we know that there's over eighty seven thousand listened with EPA, we're exposed to.

26:36 Some estimates are a thousand chemicals a day. We know, what's you know, the animals of course have got to deal with the long chemicals as well, and the household cleaners as well on the floors and in their bedding, you know, the foods, especially the commercial foods. I mean, I saw some statistics just in the last week coming out of even the FDA about some of the atrocity some of the things that aren't even being told. A number of vests and dogs with one particular brand of dog food and there's no investigation. It's one of the majors. So you know, you know, I know all this toxicity exists. I know we're exposed to it every single day. And how many doses of poison do you need before you're going to show symptoms?

27:21 Absolutely? Yeah. And it alsommates on one another, whether you're you know, you throw in the vaccines and the flea and tick medications, the heartworm medications like we talk about all the time. These are all toxic stresses on the body. And then each animal has a different threshold where those those factors add up and depending upon the sensitivity and the susceptibility of the animal, will lead to you know, symptoms of you know, again toxicity, whether they're digestive symptoms, neurologic symptoms, urinary tract symptoms. So but you know, it's the summation of all these factors that you're bringing up that lead to that. You know, it's like, for example, with seizures, there's a seizure threshold that you know a patient has and you know until and it may not be one particular thing. Sometimes it is. Sometimes you give them a flee or take medicine and they seizure and then now that's the cause. But a lot a lot of times it's again it's an additive effect, and then once it reaches almost like once it reaches a certain toxic threshold, then the body just goes into the seizures. And it's not usually one thing. It's a summation of all the things you mentioned. You know that we're talking about.

28:30 Sure. One of the other things we were talking about discussing in the in the store the last couple of days is when you is the approach that allopathic medicine takes towards medications and you know, okay, I think you know, we're going to treat them for even if it's simple diarrhea or vomiting. Okay, here's the medication. I'm going to give you the prescription, you know, two tablets a day, you know, one in the morning, one a night, whatever it happens to be. And Okay, at most pet owners just comply, They just nod their head. But when you start looking at the ingredients and the dosage charts, okay, it's one tablet for dogs under fifty pounds and two tablets for over over fifty pounds. Well, my dog's fifty one pounds. Am I going to get an overdose on that?

29:20 Because it's so close? What about the two pounds? And where do these numbers come up? I know, I know where are they based on? It's often not any sort of their science. But you know, it's the same when we look at the vaccine. You know, you're giving you know, not that I a proponent of giving vaccines, but they're you're giving the same dose of vaccine to it, Like you said, a few pound toy breed to a large giant breed. And one of my colleagues here at the meeting actually, you know, was asked by the owner to give the how to give a raby shot to a chihuahua and gave a low dose, you know, vaccine based upon you know, like what doctor John Robb had talked a back years ago, and to protect the pets group, and so she gave the vaccine and I guess the owner must have gone to another clinic, and the other clinics found out that the woman had gotten a low dose rabies vaccine and they reported my colleague.

30:17 And now she asked to, you know, defend herself, you know, to a vet board, much like you know John Robb had to do, and he was put on probation for twenty I don't think he's allowed to even put on probation for twenty five years for giving you know, low dose rabies vaccines. So you know, they really the boards go after the veterinarians and you know, and as I said, it's uh, you know, we people are just trying to be mindful not to give the same volume of dose to a little dog as you would a giant breed. And you know, the studies have shown actually with the vaccines that many years ago Gene Dodds published something that you know, showed that, you know, if you believe in the vaccines, that the low dose vaccine has the same to meological effects as a hands a full dose.

31:04 You know. So, but yeah, you're right about these toxic you know, the toxicities of the dosing of these medicines. Okay, we're gonna be right back after this very quick break. We all want our pets to be as healthy as possible. My Paleo pet is the answer. Let us help relieve your pet of your infections, elegies, scratching and itching, diabetes, joint problems, cancer, and other ailments by providing our naturally raised rock pots or frozen biocomplete natural diatondrees that are custom formulated to be species specific and USDA approved. For more information, visit mypeliopet dot com. Are called on four nine seven one two five zero zero. Thanks. Do you want to become a whole sale dealer or distributor of healthy and clean foods? Our friends and colleagues at Biocomplete Natural Diets and Herbs provide only the best USDA human consumption braid choice plus meats, poultry, and seafood. Our food comes from pasture raised and grass fed animals and we never add hormones, preservatives, or chemicals. Are clean and all natural, species appropriate diets are made daily in small batches from local farm fresh dairy products. Over one hundred herbal and botanical herbal products are available by only the best any

32:37 clean To learn more called Biocomplete Natural Diets and Herbs nine five four four seven two one four zero four or visit biocomplete naturaldiets dot com. Welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet's voice. This is Old the Pet Health Guru along with my guest doctor Michael dim Again, I want to remind people to share, like and subscribe, jump in the chat room if you've got some questions. All of that's available, looking at the dosage and the medication regimes that are going on, the benefits and or the adverse events with using multiple and multiple antibiotics, you know, and this rolling going from medication to medication and medication with with the known adverse events that most of them have and the dosage problem that we were just talking about.

33:42 Isn't this creating a whole different range of disease that is even going congenitally through the you know, the blood of the newborns and you know, from generation to generation. Isn't this creating even a bigger challenge for even people like yourself health? Absolutely, you know, we see inherited disease, inherited chronic disease from all these chemicals and toxins, you know, even you know, especially with the even vaccinated animals you see inherited vaccinosis and young puppies and young young cats that before they even have been vaccinated. So it's kind of like trans translated, you know, across across the generation. So it creates quite a problem, and no animals are born, children are born unhealthier than they ever were. Look at you know, I mean I always look at the disease autism and children, and you know, several decades ago it was a rarity and oddity. And now you know, remember of the movie rain Man. I mean, that movie would never have come out, you know if autism was a major issue. But you know that that disease is a good example with children because it shows that the environmental, the vaccine component, the diet component, the toxicities that lead to a clinical condition that you know that that is directly related to you know, these these toxins in our animals. It's the same thing.

35:05 You know, we're seeing these uh you know, record numbers of of really diseases and younger and younger patients, and a lot of it has to do with all of these this dosing of all these medications. You brought up antibiotics, you know, when I graduated at the night school, I was taught that you want to choose the best antibiotics to treat the condition that you're dealing with, whether it be you know, in the mouth or the skin or the urinary. Now the standard of care is to give two and three antibiotics at once, not just one. It's not just you know, try to you know, the basics of good microbiology, if you want to call it. That was to try and you know, use your brain and target what the you know, what the what, what the likely bacteria of that you were seeing, and what the best antiotic would be. But now that you know, we're not even thinking about that. We're just throwing two and three and multiple antibiotics at these patients. And then when you look at the flea and tick medications bill and the heartworm medicines. I think I mentioned to you on our call before you know this past week that you know, there was a guy at ten who was the head of cardiology. His name was doctor David Knight, and he was the founder of the first of the American Heartworm Society.

36:19 And this was decades ago, and he was irate that movement back then would continue today. Was away from educating the clients about when you should consider giving those drugs, and you know, not to give it all year round, not to give it, you know, you know, haphazardly, and not to combine it with other medications that aren't even necessary, you know. So nowadays, if an owner wants to use the chemical heartworm preventions, they not only have the heartworm prevention in it, but they also have the wormings and other ingredients in there that are just added burdens headed toxicity to the patient. So again, the future bring it back to the topic, The future of veninary medicine today is to increase the number of toxic burdens, you know, through the drugs and through the chemical preventatives, not just one preventative that you would use, let's say certain times a year. And now it's just as it's really hammering the body with all sorts of poisons.

37:19 Well, the other problem that I see, and this is kind of there might be a multi point question I'm going to ask as first off, it's I think it's well established science today with what we know about the gut and nutrition and biome and all of that, that antibiotics totally destroy this and we're just talking about using multiples, and there really isn't any I don't see any real push in a medical field to mitigate that. And in fact, you know, in most cases, you know, antibiotics are only good at killing bacteria, and they're using it for viruses and bungles and everything else that are diagnosed after the fact.

38:05 But also what effect does that have on the body making its own antibodies. Isn't that what we do? Absolutely, yeah, it's going to suppress that. Sorry, the body doesn't need to do it anymore. So it's you know, it's it's externally relying on agents to do it. And when the and then the bodies own innate abilities to mount an immune response or are suppressed. You know, antibiotics have been shown to suppress the immune response. You know, they've been studied that way, and they've been studied and shown that so when we use them even you know, it's interesting. There are certain antibiotics. There's one doxycycline that has a pretty big reputation that you know, has has anti inflammatory effects on the body that aren't even killing anything, but has symptom improvement. But so in other words, it's suppressing the body's expression of symptoms. So it's not allowing the body to do it itself, you know, to answer your quest that way. So you know, that's what these drugs do. They definitely hinder. You know, when we vaccinate our animals, we create a leaky gut that's been shown, you know, and often the vaccines are given, and and you know we talked also on our phone call, there's you know, the vaccine business is just exploding. It's not it's expanding, you know, just like it is in our children.

39:22 And we now have you know, vaccines against so many different things, canine flu and and for you know, the kennel call of the lepto, the lime, you know, increasing numbers of tick borne diseases that now have vaccines. And you know it's not just rabies and distemper anymore, it's all these other ones. And it's just it's a tremendous you know, toxic stress. And that that's the future of ary of conventional ventinary practice. More and more drugs, more and more chemicals, more and more vaccines and and as you said, and damaged gut biome. You know, let's see a couple of questions coming up. Their UTIs kidney, I mean kidney disease is is caused by toxins. I mean, there's no two ways about that.

40:03 Uh. It's actually on the warning label of every drug exactly. Yeah. I mean you know you have to look at the detoxification mechanisms of body, right, the liver, of the kidneys, the skin, you know, the bowels. Yeah. So when we see diseases in these organs that have been overwhelmed by toxicity, I mean most of the cases. Yeah, And like you said that that doesn't even enter into it most treatment plans or or even treatment plans just even in looking at a diagnosis, it's like it's like the very last thing unless it's so blatant. You know, my dog got into a box of lie I mean, you know, or a box of chocolate, which is not really that toxic in small amounts, is it.

40:51 No, No, not at all. Yeah, you know, it's it's overplayed. And then they come in and they induce the vomiting and they're on the ivs and it's a hole to do. But you know, the other thing about the future of ent our medicine, Bill, I know, getting close, is that you know, if your animal develops let's say a toxically actually it gets like a digestive digestive symptoms from exposure to a toxin. They end up going to the er and then they're getting the lab work down the hospitalization, and then the cost of these things just for one night in the hospital is you know, often thousands of dollars just just for a night, and it's just and the cost just keep escalating and escalating and exploding, you know.

41:34 So we want to be preventive with all of these things. We want to be mindful of the factors that go into, you know, these diseases and realize that our profession is heading in a direction that is adding to these illnesses and diseases and costs and the client. So with that being said, obviously that you know, people should be seeking people like yourself and myself out to get the great guy. Where can they reach you, Well, they can. Go to my website which is doctor dim dot com. That's d O C T O R D y M dot com. That has my email information, my contact information. I do do phone consults nationwide and I see people in local homes in the South Florida.

42:18 Area right And of course you can find me looking just on the pet Health Cafe. Information on Pet Healthcafe dot com, My paleopet dot com and several other platforms as well. And uh we do consultations, we do products as well. They get your animals healthy and get yourself parents healthy. I work with you, you know, we work together. We bring bring those cases and get them on the herbs, foods and on theopathy and they and they you know, they do well. Yep, that sounds good. Thank everybody for washing tonight. I hope we gave you a lot of information, a lot of insight as to what's in the future and let's prevent that from happening. We'll see you again next week.

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