Lyme Disease... or is it? The True Facts!

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Any health related information on the following
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advice. Always consult your physician before
beginning any new diet, exercise, or

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treatment program. Then now it's time
for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has

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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru,

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And welcome to the Pet House Cafe, the show where your Pet is a

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Voice. This is a Bill of
the Petouse Guru. Love with Doctor Michael

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Dim again. How are we doing, Doc? Doing okay? Bill?

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Just fighting off a little little cold, but I'm hanging in there. Yeah,

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yeah, for whoever reason. There's
a lot of respiratory stuff going on

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around and you know, we keep
talking about kim trails and all the spring

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that's being done, and of coursh
now in South Florida because of the rains

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we've had, they're doubling down on
mosquitoes and VIKA and West Nile spraying and

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all that stuff. You know,
it's funny when I it was the other

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day, I you know, I
don't know if you had this, if

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you have the same experience, but
the other day I like, I felt

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like this sensation in my throat.
It's almost like I feel the when it's

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coming on. I don't get these
very often, but it's like, I

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feel like this little scratch in my
throat. I swallow and I recognize,

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Oh my goodness, that's the start
of it. And I really should have

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taken a homeopathic remedy right then and
there and probably would have nipped it in

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the bud before it developed into anything. But you know, then I kind

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of waited, and then it went
in, you know, a little sore

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throat up into the sinuses. Ye. I don't get these things very often,

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but it's certainly not pleasant. But
you know, it's you know,

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like we talk about with the animals. It's you know, you look at

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these things, and it's the way
our bodies do some discharging and house cleaning.

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It's not old. It's not always
looked at all bad. No,

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no, we can't do it that
way. And of course, well you

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know, of course, you know
the fact of the matter isn't so much

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of this stuff is artificially induced,
and you know that doesn't make it any

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better, no, no, you
know, but the ability to like fight

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off something and have symptoms, as
we say in homeopathy as a sign of

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vitality. It's not necessarily a sign
of weakness. So it's the opposite in

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our experience. It's homy paths.
So I want to point that on the

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perspective into play. Yeah, exactly. So we got a different topic this

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week. We're actually gonna talk about
a so called real disease that seems to

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be the hot button topic. I
guess it's Lime disease month. And you

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know, in fact, it was
funny. I was actually invited to a

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podcast that would have proceeded this show
today from a doctor that I've never heard

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of, but evidently they you know, the universe kind of brings us a

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lot of things together, you know, like minds and stuff like that.

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So it's like, Okay, somebody
else is stealing our topic again. Yeah,

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yeah, that's true. But I
think it's a good topic, especially

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as we head into the spring months, right, you know, that's when

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these things, especially in the northern
part of the country and more temperate climates,

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when these discussions on lime disease and
other tickboard diseases start, you know,

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taking center stage, often at the
Venry clinic, the conventional venry clinic.

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Now, you know, looking through
some of the symptoms and extort of

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thing and show prep and see it
sounds like ten thousand other so called diseases,

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doesn't it. You know, the
lameness with swelling glands, joint swelling,

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even kidney problems. You know,
that's typical and almost every disease,

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isn't it? It sure is,
And you know it's Lime disease is actually,

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as I know, we'll get into
him, quite a controversial infection quote

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unquote. And you know my teacher, you know I mentioned on this show

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Pitcare, and you know, he
often talks about how the organism that causes

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lime disease has never really been proven
to make people sick from something known as

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concious postulates, which are, just
to keep it very simple, certain principles

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of establishing that the causative agents of
particular diseases and so what. And it's

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kind of considered the gold standard of
microbiology. So you know, those postulates

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I'll just mentioned briefly here is that
the organism or in this case, the

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line bacteria has to be present in
all cases of the disease, that it

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has to be isolated from the diseased
host and grown in pure culture, which

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that's never actually occurred with lime disease, and the pathogen must cause the disease

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when injected or inoculated into a healthy, susceptible animal. So in other words,

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you know, we have to reproduce
the disease and then re isolated from

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the animal that we injected into.
Such fun things they do in laboratory,

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and the line bacteria has never been
shown to fulfill most of those postulates,

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so in essence, from a purist
perspective, it actually hasn't been shown to

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cause disease. You know, it's
interesting too. I mean there's a lot

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of speculation that it actually was a
man made bioweapon, wasn't it. Yeah,

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yeah, I mean that it was
you know kind of what was that

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back in the eighties when the kind
of crept onto the seventies eighties in someplace

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in there, and it came from
what lime It was discovered in Lime,

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Connecticut. Yeah yeah, And you
know, the fear around it was just

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you know, remarkable, you know
that it was killing people and naming people

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and causing all sorts of you know, problems quote unquote. But as I'm

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sure we'll get into, nothing can
be further from the truth about what this

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organism really is and the syndromes that
it causes or doesn't cause in our companion

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animals. Well, one of the
things that I've also seen too. Of

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course, you know, everybody blames
it the UH ticks for that, and

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but from what I understand and some
of the research that's been done, it

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can be transmitted by a whole bunch
of different UH in sects, including tim

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mosquitoes. Yeah, yeah, I
mean, and not just the deer tech

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which everybody, everybody often points the
finger at, you know, well,

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species of ticks, and as you
said, the mosquitoes, you know,

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it's you know, well, you
know, I think part of it too,

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if we get it. And we'll
get into this a little bit later

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too, but when they get a
diagnosis of lime disease, and of course

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you you know, well, yeah, I found a tick or two ticks

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on my dog or cat, and
therefore that has to be what it was.

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But you don't see the mosquitoes biting
your dog, do you. No,

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very very true. And I don't
know I bink the fleas or not,

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has it not that I'm aware of? No, Yeah, that would

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seeven very you know, I mean, they're all you know, blood suckers

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basically, yeah, yeah, and
uh, you know, and they occur

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certain times a year, especially as
we get into the warmer, wetter months

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and then into the fall. The
peak peak of transmission of quote unquote lime

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disease is usually in the late summer, early fall, you know, getting

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into you know, September October.
Um. It starts about now when the

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you know, immature, when the
eggs are laid by the ticks, and

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then there's maturation into what are called
larva and then nymphs and you know,

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these these little pests, you know, a lot occasion will carry you know,

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the bacteria that causes lime disease.
Now, the thing we want to

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understand is that it transmission of the
disease is not very easy. The ticks

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have to stay embedded in the animal
for at least twenty four to thirty six

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hours. That's something clients often aren't
aware of. Right. So when we

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see like ticks on our animals and
we remove them, you know, the

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odds are that they're not carrying lime
disease or your pet is not at risk

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word right, And no one of
the things I know, you know,

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because I spent years you know,
basically doing work with the grooming industry.

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And one of the things that you
know, in that late summer months,

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they will get dogs into the grooming
salons with literally, you know, hundreds

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of what we call seed ticks,
like especially in the feet. And it's

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interesting because you know, they're seeing
hundreds of hundreds, everybody's freaking out.

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But at the end of the day
they usually only find they may find one

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or two adults or subadults, right
what happened to the rest of them?

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Exactly exactly? And you know,
the thing to understand is, and I

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know we'll get into this also,
is that the healthy immune system is they

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able to handle any quote unquote bacterial
line bacterial load. So, I mean,

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these were studies done many decades ago
that most animals that are exposed to

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line disease, in fact ninety five
never develop any symptoms and never get sick.

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So okay, um, well we
know that that's true of course with

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most diseases, and you know,
bacterial and fungal and parasite infections. Now

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you know, I've taken note you
keep talking about it being a bacteria,

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but yet when so so much of
the literature up there talks about it being

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a parasite spirit Ky, right,
A spirocade actually is just like a parasite.

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It's it acts in a very similar
way, and it preys on the

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the collagen in our body and the
connective tissue um, you know, proteins

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of our body. And depending upon
where it uh it affects, you'll get

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certain minor symptoms, not minor,
but there can be significant symptoms. And

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the minority of the animals UM you
know, whether it's affecting the heart or

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the kidney, or the joints,
or the brain or nervous system, you

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know, those are more rare complications. And I know when you know,

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one of the things you know when
you when you talk about lime disease is

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that you know, it's the same
cast of characters that we talk about every

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week on our show that are why
small percentage of animals do get sick from

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it. And that's the toxicity of
our animals that you know, the conventionally

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reared animals that lead to the susceptibility
to you know, the rare complications of

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lime disease exposure. Well, and
that kind of goes back to the question

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I often add ask, is so
are the symptoms really the lime disease or

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is it symptoms of all that toxicity
and bad lifestyle, bad food and all

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of that. I think it's what
you just said, it's the latter.

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I think it's you know, definitely
a sign of toxicity. In fact,

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as I mentioned earlier, you know, there's even question whether you know there's

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actually a parasitic organism that causes disease
along the lines of the way microbiologists characterize

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it. So you know, it
goes back to what we talked about during

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COVID, remember when we spoke about
exosomes and toxicity and whether viruses are real

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or not. And so I do
think I agree Bill that it's the toxicity

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of the animal. And when you
start to do reading on lime disease,

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you'll see that a holistic approach looks
at the individual health and lifestyle of the

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animal as why that particular animal might
be susceptible to symptoms of lime disease,

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which, as you point out,
is probably due to toxicity. You know,

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it's interesting now now, so if
an animal soose certain symptoms and of

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course you start running different testing,
isn't it kind of way the ellopathic model

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really works? Okay? If this
is if I've got symptoms here and I

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find something in a test, I
just blame it automatically. Yeah. Yeah,

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And that's something that you know,
a lot of my professors a PEN

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you know There's Pen did a lot
of research on lime disease back in the

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nineties, you know, really talk
about is that when veterinarians treat these lab

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tests, all the lab test means
is that the animal was exposed to the

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organism or the toxicity that causes lime
disease. It doesn't mean that the animal

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is clinically infected that you know,
That's that's a big thing. And actually,

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how do they test for lime disease? I know it's a blood test,

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but I mean what are they really
Well, they're looking for either antibodies

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to the organism that causes it,
or they're looking at you know, our

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old tests, the PCR tests.
They're looking for fragments of proteins that are

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present in the blood. And we
all know that that brand of testing has

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a lot of limitations and false positives
and false negatives. Right, Yeah,

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That's what I really wanted to bring
up. Is it that it is?

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It's still basically all most of the
testing is now all going in that deresstion,

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isn't it. Yeah, yeah,
it really is. And And as

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I said, there are so many
veterinarians when I've worked in the conventional clinic,

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so many veterinarians that treat these lab
results, even if the animal doesn't

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have a shred of a symptom,
and they'll put these animals on several weeks

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of a strong antibiotic like doxycycling,
which is not anything mild by any sense

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of the means. And you know, in most cases it's not even necessary,

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right, And then it was actually
one of the things that I was

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going to ask you, what are
the side effects of that? Well,

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of course we know what the antibiotics
do on the gut flora level, right,

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And doxycycling is a very powerful antibiotic
that inhibits inflammation but does other things

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to the body. I've seen a
lot of cases of animals that have been

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put on that antibiotic that a short
time after all of a sudden developed cancer,

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if you could believe it. And
so I really do think it's wreaking

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havoc on the immune system. It's
a it's a novel class of antibiotics that's

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different from others, and it has
effects on the body that are far reaching,

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more than just killing you know,
quote unquote bacteria or spiro keete organisms

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when it comes to lyme disease,
and it's you know, a strong drug.

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It's not anything to be taken mildly
and so and and then when animals

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are going on these drugs, they're
going on them for three, four weeks

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or even longer, you know,
not just not just a week or ten

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days. And then some veterinarians treat
animals with quote unquote chronic lime disease over

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and over again with antibiotics. What
I mean, that's you know, that's

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that's my definition of insanity. I
mean, I'm sorry about and you know,

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the you know, the truth of
the matter is is that you know,

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as I said, this bacteria or
spirokeetor who said parasite is really a

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very minority causitive agent of any any
illness in healthy animals. And so you

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know, the toxicity of the animal
if they're being Vaccines play a huge role.

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I know, we'll get into that
a little bit. Vaccines play a

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huge role. And why animals or
you know, come down with all sorts

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of different chronic illnesses. But you
know, just injecting viral vaccines, you

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know, is a major factor with
why an animal would come down with clinical

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lime disease due to what's called co
infections. Sure, and that's a big

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thing because a lot of the vaccines
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them that are never disclosed exactly exactly, and so it's you know, even

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in those minority of animals that are
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infections with other toxic particles or other
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are what leads to the minority being
clinically affected. In fact, that's

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one of the big downsides to vaccinating
for lime disease, which is one of

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the most ludicrous, you know,
practices I can think of, not that

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any vaccine is not ludicrous, but
especially when lime disease, because when we

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inject the lime bacteria in any form
into the body, force we're bypassing all

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the ways that the body evolved to
keep these organisms out of the body.

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But you're leading to all sorts of
autoimmune conditions, and the minority of patients

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that develop symptoms it's believed to be
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response, and so when you vaccinate, you're creating conditions that are basically mimicking

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that. And so animals and people
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much sicker when they're exposed to the
spiral key or parasite in nature. In

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fact, you know, the line
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nineties, and the side effects was so

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immense, and it was causing all
sorts of neurologic problems and people and all

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sorts of you know, central nervous
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market right away. I never returned. And so with you know, if

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we're not vaccinating people because of the
safety issues, why the heck would be

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want to vaccinate dogs for line disease. It's again, you know, I

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keep going back to the definition of
insanity. And we got a little bit

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over a minute here, but just
another question that a lot of a lot

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of people asked, Okay, so
my dog was supposedly diagnosed with line disease

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or I was. I went through
the antibiotic treatments, and how do we

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know when to stop and if if
we do another PCR test, isn't it

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still good to show up? Yeah, yeah, it's it's still basically could

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be positive. And of course the
antibody tests are going to be positive for

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months or years, but that PCR
can be positive as well. Again,

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it's not a perfect test. There's
a lot of false positives and negatives,

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as I said, as we learned
with COVID and son. And then they

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have these quantitative tests too, Bill, there's something called a C six test

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where they're measuring, you know,
a certain type of antibody that they say

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correlates with natural infection, and they're
saying if it's above a certain minimum this

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antibody, that you should treat the
animal irrespective of whether they're not symptoms or

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So we've gone through some of the
testing. We know that we're on whatever

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reason, we're always going to end
up with if there's been exposure to positive

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testing, what does a petal or
even a person do with it? In

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the case, what do you draw
a line? I mean, basically,

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I mean an animal shouldn't be treated
with anything unless again it comes back to

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whether they have symptomology of any sort
of illness or disease. And that's the

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thing with lime is is that you
know, ninety of animals don't have any

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symptoms, or they have some transient
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But you know, they studied this
back with beagles in the nineties of

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pen and showed that basically, you
know, those animals when they were injected

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with the lime organism didn't develop any
symptoms of illness. So the necessity to

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really react and to become frightened you
know, is way overblown. In fact

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that this topic came on a good
point. I had a holistic client that

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is a good client of mine that
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I ain't doctor them. I found
a tick on Lulu or whatever the dog's

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name was, and you know,
what should I do? You know,

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that's what people do they you know, they find a tick on an animal.

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What should I do? And I
said just She said should I run

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and get him tested? And I
said no, why do you want to

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do that? You know, you
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tests on and then you get frightened, and then that leads to other drugs

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and medications. And I said,
there, does she have any symptoms?

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And she said no, And I
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And then she went on to ask
me about her other dog that had a

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parasite when it was younger. And
the dog's doing great on actually you know

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your diets. And she wanted to
know if she should retest the dog for

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Giardi and I said, absolutely not. If your dog is well and eating

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well and the stools are normal and
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I said, leave the animal alone. You know, we test these animals

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and test ourselves into oblivion, and
we have to look at what does you

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know, what does an abnormal test
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the truth of the matter is is
that unless a person or an animal has

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symptoms of issues, you know,
we have to be careful about these tests

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and overtesting. I there's another analogy. I sometimes will tell my clients that

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if I, as an almost sixty
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hospital and had and checked into all
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test on me, you know,
and they would probably find a laundry list

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of diseases and diagnoses, and I
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death that I was gonna you know, possibly get very sick or pass away.

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And you know, the truth this
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but it's way overdone, way overdone. Great And then thing, of course,

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you know, because we associate line
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body has a natural defense mechanism when
they do get a parasite, especially a

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necto parasite, that is basically repelling
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That's exactly right. A healthy immune
system, you know, is definitely

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the most important part of of you
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of quote unquote infection, whether it
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Absolutely. You know. The interesting
thing too, you said, you know,

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of course they did a lot of
testing and that sort of thing at

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at pen with that and uh,
you know, the beagle studies and that

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sort of thing. Those animals that
they're using for testing. Um, do

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not live exactly the healthiest lifestyle,
do they, between being penned up and

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eating commercial processed foods. And uh, that's an excellent point, Bill.

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And even even in all those conditions, those animals weren't getting sick, you

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know. So that's why you know, my teacher at Penn whos I believe

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still there, Merrill Lipmann used to
talk about all the time, you know,

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not treating these tests if the animal
doesn't have any symptoms, not vaccinating

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with the vaccine, which is you
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I'm seeing more and more animals vaccinated
for lime disease along with everything else.

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I mean, I can't believe how
much you know, just to divert for

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a second, how much you know, more expanded the vaccine market has gotten

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in fact, you know, as
we know, and any kenneled animal or

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animals that go to daycare then now
requiring kennel cough vaccine and leptosporosis and bored

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to tela and all of these organisms, influenza, and they never I mean

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these were I mean, we never
worried about any of these things. And

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now we're vaccinating for everything, and
lime disease is right there with these other

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these other injections, and it's just
more and more animals or being vaccinated without

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any thought of whether they need it
or whether it's harmful. And it's really

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tragic because I see more unhealthy animals
that are vaccinated with lime disease than animals

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that are not. Yeah, and
it's the same thing, you know,

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the leptos the same way. Now. The other thing is all these things

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that they're vaccinating, and are these
commutable diseases, you know, can they

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spread from animal to animal very easily? Well? With lime disease, they're

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talking about maybe bodily fluids can transmit
it, So I guess there's a theoretic

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possibility, but again it's very very
rare, Bill, and I wouldn't really

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worry. I wouldn't counsel people to
worry about that, not at all.

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shouldn't start to talk about too. And

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then if an animal test positive or
and has symptoms, let's say, you

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know, god forbid, if they
have symptoms, you know, there are

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herbal alternatives for treatment, you know, food based botanicals and all sorts of

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herbs that can be used instead of
this very powerful antibiotic that has you know,

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so many side effects attached to it. Yeah, I mean, I

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know, I also thought that they
were You've got a few. I did

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a little bit of sneaking around.
There are few homeopathic remedies for those,

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uh, for so called line disease, aren't there? Yeah? I mean

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some of the people will use um, a remedy called lead them ledum,

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which is a remedy that is indicated
from one of the indications for it is

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from a puncture or a bite of
an insect or an organ like a tick.

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And sometimes people have used lead them
preventatively when an animal has been bitten

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by a tick and the results are
fairly good in terms of, you know,

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reducing any symptoms. But keep in
mind that if the animals don't get

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sick. It's hard to you know, say that. You know, giving

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a remedy is making a huge difference
because the animals, you know, own

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immune system is handling things just fine
on its own. Yeah, that's exactly

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right now. Um. You know
in our the biocomplete line that uh that

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we have, I actually have a
line uh disease blend of herbs um that

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and I first was presented with it. God, it's gonna be fifteen sixteen

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years ago, I went to I
was perusing a book of ancient remedies and

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it had to do with you know
things just old things, herbal things,

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natural thing and lime disease actually existed
in the tropics Central America back hundreds of

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years and they used They found that
just using cat's claw bark in a tea

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or a powder form and would get
rid of the symptoms of it. Wow.

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Yeah, cat's claw is an excellent
herb as you know, of course,

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and it has so many beneficial uses, especially you know, in raising

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the particular parts of the immune system. And like you said, using it

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in a bulk form is it's very
safe for them and I don't think there

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are any side effects from it,
even in large doses, isn't there No,

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I'm most a. Oh. That's
the thing about most herbals and botanicals,

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because you know, and because there
are foods, and just like any

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food, if you start to eat
too much of something that's not you know,

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man made process in it, but
in a natural form, small amounts,

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even if it's toxic, can be
beneficial. But you get to a

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certain point where your body says no
more, and you know, so it

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kind of puts up those blockades.
I mean, onions are a good thing.

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Chocolate, you know, if you
even that's the way. There's a

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dessert called best by chocolate because if
you eat over a certain amount of chocolate

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at any given time, you can
die, but your body won't let you.

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You'll be vomiting before you even get
close to that. Very true.

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And actually when I formulated this,
and you know, I know you'll appreciate

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this because there's a lot of other
things that are used in the herbal area

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for lyme disease. And one of
the other ones is wormwood um, which

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of course is a great hell uh. And then of course black walnuts another

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good one that's used. But when
right, and basically what I did is

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when I put this together because I'm
not looking at just looking at the lime

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disease. I got to clean the
body. So I've got we put in

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things like the melk this will clean
out that liver, or the dandelion will

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clean out the um kidney, the
ethan asia, clean out the lymphatic system.

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Uh, Corella soak up those toxins. Burrelina great antioxidant, white willow

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because you got you might have joint
pain, um meadow sweet the same way

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and two aspern like you know,
substances uh tumor it again cleaning out that

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liver and getting rid of that inflammation. Uh. And then you know,

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uh rose hips for vitamin C.
Marshmallow, you know, marshmallow is great

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to settle that stuff in case there's
something you know in the diest going on.

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And then cult for the minerals.
Wow, what a popular, What

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a jam packed formula that is,
you know, and it's like if you

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put it bill, it's it's so
important to support the detoxification mechanisms of the

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body. I mean it's critical.
Um. And you know, because so

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many of these syndromes are due to
you know, we break it down again

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like we do on so many shows
due to toxicity. So you're right.

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We have to clean out the lymphatics, clean the liver out, remove the

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heavy metals and the toxins of the
vaccine is so important. And have you

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ever used I mean I read an
article many years ago from Dogs Naturally and

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one of the herbalists talked about an
herb called Japanese not weed route. Have

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you ever heard of that one?
Yeah, I've heard of it. And

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00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.039
this is the interesting thing when we
get into the herbal world that people you

409
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know some you know, some of
the formulator or some of the herbalist.

410
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.400
It gets cooked on certain things that
they're familiar with. Of course, we

411
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.680
all do that. Um. You
know, veterinarians do that with their drugs.

412
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.880
Let's face it pass through that with
their homeopathic exactly. But you know,

413
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.559
around the world, you know there
is there is a botanical a plant,

414
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:22.160
um, you know, an herb
um that does the identical thing no

415
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matter where you are on this planet. Um. You know it's a it's

416
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.839
a natural design. You know,
if you're not if it's not spurlinga,

417
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.720
it's another LG, that blue green
LG that's going to you know, be

418
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.799
your antioccidant. If it's not marshmallow
root. It could be slipper realm.

419
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:44.039
It could be you know, there's
just so many different things. Yeah,

420
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.400
absolutely, and know what is what
is the urb in the month of their

421
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.079
homeopathic remedy in the month? Right? We used to you know, in

422
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.839
the early days of the store,
we used to joke around about that because

423
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:59.200
whatever was whatever disease was in the
veterinary journal the month before, that's what

424
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:06.079
everything was. That no stats right
right exactly. It got you know,

425
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.599
it got to be almost comical,
uh to some of the things that you

426
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.840
know, Okay, I just saw
it in the journal. Next month,

427
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:21.239
everybody's gonna have, you know,
whatever it's like, because you know,

428
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.719
if friends there, you know obviously
the delapath especially what they're testing anything else,

429
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.840
They're gonna be testing for that particular
thing, aren't they. Yeah,

430
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.599
Yeah, there's that the testing.
Testing, testing, that's all they that's

431
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.960
all we know. I mean,
look, most of what when people go

432
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.320
to the vet, the conventional vet, it's a brief exam that will listen

433
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.000
to the heart for a second or
two, feel the belly, and then

434
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.719
run the testing. And so as
I said, I mean, I try

435
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.119
and really I use testing you know
when it's appropriate for the giving situation.

436
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.239
But I certainly don't test test test
every animal. In fact, testing an

437
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.960
animal for line disease, it doesn't
have any symptoms. That's why I counsel

438
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.599
my client today. I mean,
God, just don't go to that.

439
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.119
What are you doing and just to
test these animals, just to induce fear

440
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.000
into the client. And that's what
so much of this testing does. I

441
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.639
know it's done for fear. We'll
here at the break. Let's take this

442
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469
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Okay, just before you went to
the break, you were talking about,

470
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:46.599
is you know, instilling the fear
in the pet owner? Um, you

471
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:52.840
know, so they take action on
the other side of when you when you

472
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.800
said that, what about the fear
and anxiety that that pet being taken into

473
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.039
that hospital has to endure. Yeah? Sure, you want to look at

474
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.960
the animal absolutely, yeah, with
with with over you know, the poking

475
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:14.599
and prodding and more more needles,
and the stress and anxiety of just being

476
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.679
in the clinic, absolutely and being
exposed to god knows what the clan as

477
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.320
you talk about all the time,
the the you know, the cleaning agents,

478
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:28.519
all the chemicals in a vet office. Not only that the pathogens that

479
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.719
are are there and there, I
mean they're not cleaning that front room or

480
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:37.920
even quite often the exam rooms and
a very thorough cleaning between patients, and

481
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.880
they're you know, it can be
crazy, can't it. Absolutely? Yeah,

482
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.880
absolutely. And then you have you
know, animals being injected with modified

483
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:52.800
live viral vaccines which are being shed
around them to other animals. I you

484
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:57.760
know, often talk about that in
my presentations on vaccination, is when we

485
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.239
vaccinate a few groups of animals,
it's not just those animals that are being

486
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.000
vaccinated. You're actually shedding the organism
around the modified organisms of the vaccine to

487
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:13.039
the other animals in the surrounding environment
that aren't even vaccinated. So you know,

488
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.519
all these toxins that animals are being
exposed to, and of course the

489
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.559
emotional stress of being you know,
taken into the vet clinic. It's just

490
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.880
it's just not necessary. And you
know, the other thing Bill that's also

491
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.159
important to realize is that with this
whole idea of tick board diseases, it's

492
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.760
just it's not just lime. Now
they're testing for you know, three and

493
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:43.039
four organisms at once. They're testing
for an organism called anaplasmosis and another one

494
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:47.280
or lickia. Right, there are
others as well, and you know,

495
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.440
vets are testing for those animals are
coming up positive and then again more reason

496
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.639
to put them on doctor cycling for
several weeks. And so, you know,

497
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.639
anything we can do to elicit fear
in the in the guardian or the

498
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.079
or the patient, it seems to
be the norm in a lot of ventry

499
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.719
clinics. Yeah, it is,
it really is, and it's you know,

500
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.840
it's almost again, Kennedy, it's
a travesty. It's it's why our

501
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:23.840
dogs are in Our pets are living
half or a third of a lifetime today

502
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:32.039
instead of instead of and quite often
struggling from very young ages, aren't they.

503
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.280
Yeah, younger and younger ages.
We got those autoimmune diseases and cancers

504
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:44.119
and organ pathology. Yes that you
know, even animals that are you know,

505
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:46.840
one and three, two to three
years of age, I'm seeing come

506
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.360
into the vent clinics with all sorts
of chronic degenerative diseases that you know,

507
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.159
twenty thirty years ago, we're rare
or not seen at all. Well,

508
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.280
the other thing is you're going to
look at herd immunity as well, which

509
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:04.519
is something that nobody talks about obviously. But if let's say, if if

510
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.719
mom or Grandmam was exposed to BLME
disease, or some of the other ones

511
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:14.760
that we talk about. Isn't there
a certain amount of natural immunity that's passed

512
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:19.880
down through the bloodstream and then through
the colostrum and through the milk. Absolutely

513
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.039
sure is. And you know,
the healthier mom mom is, the healthier

514
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.719
those puppies and babies are going to
be. In fact, you know,

515
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.840
the you know, the research on
lime disease and people is you know,

516
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:37.280
they looked at farmers that were exposed
to line and eighty percent of the farmer

517
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.119
has had lime disease, but only
you know, positive tested, but only

518
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.320
two percent showed any symptoms. Again
and again, the healthy immune system,

519
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.480
they were able to fight it off
on their own. And like you said,

520
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.079
they're able to you know, mothers
are able to transmit that protection through

521
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.280
the in utero and through the milk
and the colostrum so that animals and young

522
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.320
babies don't get sick. Yeah.
No, it's interesting because they're doing some

523
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.440
of the research too. Of course, you know, lately, I've been

524
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.199
talking a lot more about water and
ionized water. You know, parasites don't

525
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.639
like an alkaline body, so they're
going to go towards the animals that are

526
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:19.000
more acidic so and you know that
are drinking dead water. That's what we

527
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.320
feed them out of the tap,
isn't it? Absolutely? You know,

528
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.400
lifeless water. I know that's an
interest of yours, and it's an important

529
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.360
point we can't forget. Is you
know the number one nutrient in the body,

530
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.760
of course is water. Yeah,
exactly. And what we're finding now,

531
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.880
of course, you know, you
know, it wasn't as important of

532
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:42.840
a topic for me for so many
years because we're feeding raw diets, which

533
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:50.119
has that living ionized water in the
food right right, it's so important to

534
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.920
recognize that the water. You know, clients will often tell me when they're

535
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.519
on the road diet, Hey,
docy, I'm trying to get them to

536
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.119
drink water, and they don't want
to drink any water, and they're getting

537
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.480
it off from the food. I
love about that because we get that all

538
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.679
the time. It's like, he's
not drinking any water anymore. It's like,

539
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.079
no kidding. I mean, even
the dog that I've got right now,

540
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.840
Um, I can fill up the
water bowl more evaporates since you ever

541
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.280
drinks right right. I mean,
it's really really interesting. Now on the

542
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.079
other side, I'm gonna tell you, you know, I've got I've got

543
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:25.920
birds as well, and you know, birds are eating primarily primarily seed diets

544
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.360
because I got hooked bills. I
do give them some greens and stuff like

545
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.519
that, which they eat and they're
picking out of those. But they drink

546
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:38.800
a lot more water. And since
they've since I've been using the elkpline ionized

547
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:44.320
water, they're drinking twice as much
and they're twice as active. Wow,

548
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.719
that's amazing. Yeah, I mean, healthy water, like you said,

549
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.000
Bill is so critical and it's something
I think, you know, we really

550
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.519
need to pay attention more to as
we move along, you know, we

551
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.760
really have to. Right now.
It's interesting too in my in my searches

552
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.239
here and you know, we're this
is hour is going by way way too

553
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.960
fast again, and I don't know
how we managed to fill so much time

554
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:13.239
and on single subjects like this,
but looking at different foods for lyme disease,

555
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.440
and of course on a human side, almost every site is going to

556
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:21.400
a plant based diet, you know
that. But the FU where I'm looking

557
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.280
at and it talks about um,
you know, feeding clean food more than

558
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.199
anything else. Um, you know, uh, you know, non GM

559
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.239
food. It's not GMO fat,
it's it's in the meat family and stuff

560
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.000
like that. But things like you
know, naturally raised salmon, you know,

561
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:44.320
wild caloted salmon and chicken. It's
pastured venison of course, which is

562
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:50.480
almost always you know, clean raised
in any of the clean UH lean meats,

563
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.679
because that's going to build up the
body absolutely, I totally agree,

564
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.000
you know. And the other thing
is, of course, is when we're

565
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.119
looking at the diets more and more
now is the use of more and more

566
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.400
organ me especially liver, because of
you know, we've we're talked, we

567
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.159
touch on a little bit in the
last couple of weeks about the copper and

568
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.559
iron situation that we're showing all these
I just got hair analysis from UH for

569
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:22.000
a dog, and it's leaching copper
because it's non usable, not bioavailable copper

570
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:27.480
out of the hair like crazy wow. And and then the iron part of

571
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:34.119
it is severely deplete because of that
connection. And you can't do this stuff

572
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:36.440
with supplements, which is one of
the things we talked about a couple of

573
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.199
weeks ago, because it's not bio
available, right right, totally true.

574
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.119
I mean, that's wonderful. I
always forget about the you know, you

575
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.480
guys do the you know, the
hair testing and the heavy metal testing.

576
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.760
It's a great service for our animals
and ourselves. Yeah, more often,

577
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:58.440
and that if they go onto our
under my paleopet website starting I think starting

578
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.000
tonight, they're actually running a special
on that because we haven't been pushing as

579
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.039
much as we should and that's still
one of the best, you know,

580
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:12.480
best measures of those toxic heavy metals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

581
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.039
really And it's funny because when when
we introduce that, what fifteen years ago

582
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:21.400
or so, um, most of
the veterinary community pooh pooed it said,

583
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.880
oh that stuff is inaccurate or anything
else. But yet that was the gold

584
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:30.440
standard for the EPA. Wow,
that's an excellent point, you know,

585
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:35.000
UM and all their studies that they
do on toxicity and you know, bad

586
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.079
chemicals and you know all of that. So you know again that disconnects.

587
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.760
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But
one thing I wanted to touch on before

588
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.920
I know we're coming to the end
of the show in a few minutes is

589
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.840
you know the other thing that is
part of this toxicity is and we touched

590
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.119
on it, uh, you know
in many other shows, is the poisons

591
00:46:54.159 --> 00:47:00.599
that people use to prevent to kill
these texts and kill the mosquitoes. And

592
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:07.199
it's those animals that are being given
these topical and oral formulations and their boxes

593
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.079
are so toxic. Those are the
animals I see that get clinical line disease.

594
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.480
Absolutely, you know, we've seen
I've seen that for forever. I

595
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.960
mean you know when those topicals came
out. I mean even even they sprays

596
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.000
back in back forty fifty years ago, while they were more natural, and

597
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.639
we didn't use them as heavily because
we, let's face it, fifty years

598
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.079
ago, we were feeding our animals
real food. Yeah, but as a

599
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.880
majority, and we didn't have sick
animals. No, no, not at

600
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.000
all. It was crazy. Okay, we got about three minutes left here,

601
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.280
So doctor Dim again, where can
people reach you? Then? Can

602
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:50.679
go to my website which is www
dot doctordim dot com. That's dc tr

603
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.280
dym dot com and that has all
the information on my practice, my services,

604
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:01.239
and my contact information. And just
to remind the that I do offer

605
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:07.800
phone consultations nationwide. Yeah, and
of course, um, you know I

606
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.960
do, uh you know, phone
consultations I do in person it at my

607
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:19.320
paleopet when I'm there. Um,
they can also reach me on social media

608
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.280
at the Pet Health Guru UM,
which you know. Uh, and of

609
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.480
course we got a ton of information
coming out. We're always you know,

610
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.840
we're always blessing it out the websites. Uh. You know you've heard them

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in the commercials by paleopet dot com. The Bible Complete Line is launching a

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brand new website and hopefully in the
next two to three weeks they'll have a

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lot more information, be a lot
more customer friendly. We're opening up UM

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on the wholesale and of course you
hear our wholesale commercial on the show.

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We're opening up more and more stores
throughout Florida, independent stores so that people

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have access to what they need.
Yeah, and you know, I mean

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that's a big part of it as
well. We have to get the resources

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have got to be out there.
Yeah. The availability of your products,

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Bill is wonderful the way it's expanded, you know. And yeah, I

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know my accountant does. My accountant
doesn't like that. She says, Bill

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quit coming out with new products,
right right, But it's always new and

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improved, Bill. We have to
evolve as we learn, and you know,

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everything is always evolving. Well that
you know, that's how we got

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involved. You know, we started
out with food, and we moved into

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your bowls, and we moved into
the clean air and uh you know,

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uh second putting on, the next
part of it was the clean water.

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So you know, we're looking at
the whole body. We really are looking

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at a truly holistic format. And
of course you know your homeopathy works right

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into it, and you know your
philosophies and and your your understanding of it

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is probably the biggest asset that we
have. And we appreciate you being here.

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And I guess we're going to be
back again next week. Sounds good.

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I'm looking forward to it, all
right, thank you for listening.

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