Leptosirosis ... Is It Really Dangerous To Our Pets & Us?

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru. Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet Has a Voice.

0:46 This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, along with a special guest host, doctor Michael dimm Fresh office trip to Texas. Yep, it's a nice time away. And got to appear on the high Wire with my friend and you know, kind of a interesting guy, Dell big Tree, and it was it was a nice time away, and I did a nice interview with him and enjoy always being with his great crew and really they do a great job. Yeah, that's what I that's what I understand. Hopefully one day I'll get to go out there. Yeah, I'm sure you put in a good word for me. I don't know. I think I try to mention the store and the interview. I don't remember if I did or not. I am did you watch it? I don't remember. Actually, yeah, I watched it. The I guess the only you know, I mean, you mentioned billing Hurst and Richard as far as foods, and no mention of me.

1:49 I mean maybe I didn't. I didn't mention. I don't know. I know you talked, you know, you talked about foods and you talked about herbs and that was good. And you know what I thought, I mentioned there's a resource out here. Oh well, I have to do it next time. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, but uh no, I mean it was a good interview, you know. The vaccine thing. You know, of course, we know that that's a big you know, cause for him, he's you know, with the COVID and you know which I know I'm not supposed to say and all of that stuff, but but it's it's, uh, you know, it gives you a different level, a different audience to start to bring in stuff nation especially nationwide that we both that we both need. Yeah. No, I definitely got some interesting emails this week and calls people you know, across the country aren't and across the world.

2:50 I have some international emails aren't really aware of the vaccine issue, so or they're not aware of not the vaccine issue. They're not aware of that. That's sort of you know, there's those sort of views like Dell has or you know, in the venery world, and so that's the most interesting thing. So you know, it goes to show you that we need just to continue to get more exposure out there to more holistic natural views and stressing minimal vaccinations, you know, proper species appropriate diets and movements away from the drugs and the chemicals, and people really respond to that. And you know, as I said, it was a nice, nice experience and got to have dinner with him and his wife, and it was it was a nice time away. You know, he's involved also with rfk's candidacy, so that's a big, big part of his time and so he's on his campaign there to try and get him, you know, more exposure. So you know, like I said, interesting conversation and nothing more important from our purposes than bringing up the vaccine issue and immunity and the hazards of the vaccines. And you know, I try to cover as much as I could, and I couldn't believe it went as long. It was like twenty six minutes, but yeah, it was. It was a nice experience. And uh, as I said, I was in you know how I was introduced to him Bill many years ago. I uh, one of my clients was involved with his I Can movement and back then they were really running on minimal donations and she was

4:27 a big supporter of his and you know, connected me with him. And right, you know that group, you know, you and I what we went ended up going down to where I forget somewhere in Miami maybe or where we were met Andrew Wakefield and uh, yeah, you know the whole group and uh robber Lee Fisher from the National Information Center. So it's important that we all stick together because we all have a general you know kind of message. Yeah, I mean, you know, it was funny too when he was talking about feeding his animals raw and how it got to be burdensome, you know, going and buying the stuff and grinding it and everything else.

5:08 And that's actually what started what originally was Biovan's Animal Health that turned into Fiesta Pet Deli, which of course has now developed into my Paleopets and Biocomplete Concepts, which is the company behind a biocomplete natural diets brand. Because yeah, it's a pain to do small batches, and you know, because I joke around about it all the time because it takes me the same amount of time to clean up. You know, if I make five pounds of food or whether I make five hundred pounds of food, the cleanup is the worst part of making that stuff, you know. So that's that's how that you know, our story actually started with this stuff. It was just, you know, there's just no sources to do individual serving sizes, small portions and that sort of thing. And you know, I know he was you know, he said these It was interesting because he mentioned that, you know, he's buying some of the commercial stuff, but he's still unsure about how good it is. And you know that that's the part that kind of you know, that's one of the things that struck me because you know, what we do is obviously way above and beyond, and I'm looking even working with some of the local farmers and that sort of thing down here to actually elevate to the next level. And of course we're incorporating into people's stuff as well well.

6:36 As I've gotten emails. I've certainly put a you know, a thing in for the store and for you to that you ship all over nationwide. And yeah, hopefully I'll be getting some more business too from some of the audience that has reached out and asked me about various questions. And you know, as I have resources, and so no better resource than my palot pet for sure. Yeah. It's interesting too because of course we're I'm uh with some of our suppliers over the last week or so, and of course with the holidays coming up, people are going to be looking for good food for themselves, and you know, we're dealing directly at the farm level, grass fed, grass finished pasture rays, no hormones, no antibiotics, no vaccines in our livestock. And you know it, even those couple of meals at the at the holidays season that are healthy are going to be much better for the body, aren't they. Absolutely? Yeah, So it's so important to get those good support, to get those good resources that you do. And you know, that's what separates separates you guys out from you know, the competitors, and there are certainly plenty of competitors. Now, oh my god, tell me about it. But tonight you wanted to talk about a special topic and it was you know, when I was told it was. It kind of caught me a little off guard because generally we don't focus in on single

8:07 diseases and things of that nature. But obviously something happened in your life or your professional life that click that we have to discuss a worldwide disease that's been here forever and ever and ever and affects multiple species, but yet we're not all dead from it, which is leptosporosis. Is that true? Yeah? Absolutely, And it's getting more and more pressed from the conventional side of things in terms of fear and awareness through fear and you know, pushing. Of course, the leptosporosis vaccine, which you know, obviously is you know, a vaccine like any other vaccine, but happens to be one of the more risky ones. I mean they're all risky, of course, but this particular one has a reputation over the decades of being quite unsafe, even even as acknowledged by the allopathic conventional venory community. So well, you know, I saw something popped up there already. Can you kind of give a little bit of a background as to what leptos borrosis really is, Well, it's an infectious disease that's typically you know, a bacteria or what's called a spiral keet, which is a very small organism that is found in certain wildlife, especially you know, rodents and rats, and you know, even even raccoons and

9:39 other small mammals you know, seem to be involved with its transmission. But it's it's most commonly transmitted through bodies of water, standing bodies of water, you know, canals, puddles, not puddles, but you know, more standing water that has been there for a while and where there's you know, exposure to these small mammals. And the interesting thing about it is that most animals that are exposed, including our dogs, don't really get sick from it. They're really not as susceptible as the allopathic venary community makes it out.

10:20 In other words, when they're exposed just like lime disease. In fact, lime disease and lepto are very similar caused by very similar organisms, and when animals and people are exposed to it, if you have a healthy immune system, then really there's not much illness. Usually you can become a carrier temporarily. More so, interestingly, if you're vaccinated. So if an animal is vaccinated for leptosporrosis, it actually can transmit it to people. But again, the vast majority of people and animals with healthy immune systems don't develop any symptoms.

11:00 Those that are immute and compromised or in poor hygiene conditions you know, poor nutrition, you know, toxic exposure. Like are you know certain holistic I mean, conventionally raised animals are, then we'll occasionally see susceptible animals develop you know, clinical disease, which by the way, is very treatable and allopathically, even with antibiotics, and also can be treated with herbs and homeopathy, which has a remarkable record with it, but the symptoms are very vague and nonspecific. When animals do come down with it, it's usually like they become lethargic, they might have a low grade fever. Some of them will develop vomiting and diarrhea. In the worst case scenarios, you know, animals can go into kidney have kidney disease or secondary liver problems. But you know, again when it's diagnosed quickly, which is a problem also which we can which we can into the diagnosis of it. But when it's diagnosed and animals are treated, the mortality rate is really very low. So, but I don't see it as a problem in again hopefully not our audience here, in animals that are raised in a more natural, holistic fashion. It's just and as I said, it's most of the time when animals are people are exposed, they actually have very few symptoms or if at all, And so that's important point to make about it. So it's it's really gotten a lot of

12:33 pr in the allopathic community as they've pushed the vaccines, pushed the fear button. And the thing about the vaccines is, not only do you get this typical autoimmune and other inflammatory conditions, but animals that get vaccinated with lepto are actually much more susceptible to the real disease or they get sick from the organism in the vaccine. And so the animals actually will become ill from the vaccine directly and develop the same symptoms of clinical leptoscurosis again, you know, meaning them the general symptoms I just mentioned, or as I said, occasionally liver or kidney disease, which can be you know, severe if it's not if it's not identified and treated. But the vaccinated animals seem to be more prone, just like a lot of the other vaccines out there. Yeah, there's there's what I was going to throw in there that I think every you know, basically on all these diseases that we over vaccinate our animals on. I think almost all the clinical uh you know, positive testing that I've seen have always been unvaccinated animals for these diseases basically vaccine induced, right right, And lepto is one of the more glaring examples of a vaccine induce disease. And you know, and and then the other thing is even in the animals that are vaccinated that don't show any symptoms, they can become carriers and shedders of

14:09 the organism through the urine. And what happens is is then people can get exposed and get sick from the animals being vaccinated the shedding of the leptosporrosis. No, it is an interesting question there on the vaccine because I, you know, I shun them completely, so I'm not even looking at any ingredients anymore. I mean, they've just gotten to that point in my you know, my career that I you know, I don't need all the details. All I know is that most of these are harmful. But are they using a live or a modified live virus or a bacteria rather, I think they've graduated towards that or DNA or you know, like DNA vaccines. They used to be what are called bacterins, which are like components of the bacteria that we're very immunogenic. In other words, very would stimulate a very strong immune response, but would come with a severe acute reaction, and so you know, often especially in small breeds. But you know, the vaccines have evolved.

15:13 I mean, the thing about the vaccines is that there are over two hundred and something what are called serivars of lepto out in the variables of it, and you know, very there's only a few that are really potentially disease causing in our animals, in our dogs, cats much less, much more much less susceptible, you know than dogs. But you know, there's very few servars, and even the serivars that are in the vaccines don't protect against the ones that the dogs are sometimes susceptible to. So it's a really, you know, a big booming business, like all vaccines, and I don't think today's vaccines, whether they're DNA derived or modified live, I mean, they've kind of gone through the whole evolution. I don't think these vaccines are any safer than the original bacterins. And you know, the concern is is again the significant immune reaction that occurs when these vaccines are given. And you know, the testing which we can get into is also very very poor, because again what I said earlier is animals, when they're naturally exposed, will mount an immune response and be protected and not be sick. And the same is true with lime disease. Like I said, they're very close, They're very similar, right, and you know, the diagnosed the diagnostics sometimes rely

16:48 on antibody measurements, which if it's natural or vaccine exposure, is hard to differentiate. And now they've come down, you know, they've come up with of course, the PCR testing has its own false negatives and false positives, so the testing for it is very very poor and very insensitive and non specific. We just got another comment, this sounds dangerous. I wonder where the disease are. I wish we could have a dialogue with the person's question. Yeah, I know, it's not it's not dangerous. It actually, as I said, the vast majority of animals that are exposed or humans don't develop any symptoms. Their own immune systems handle it very similar as I said, to lime disease in our animals, where greater than eighty to ninety percent of the animals that are exposed to the line bacteria don't develop any symptoms at all.

17:45 Oh, the vaccine, it is very dangerous, yes, as are all vaccines. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I mean it's it's it be you know, we I don't think we ever say it enough, how what the dangers are. And it's not just the you know what we're trying to get an immune response to the bacteria or the you know, so called proteins that are the viruses, but it's all the other toxins that are in those vaccines that build up over time. And you mentioned earlier that you know, we see more of this stuff in toy breeds and small breeds because the concentration level of aluminum and mercury and you know, the squalen, the formeldehyde, all of that. It's it's you know, in a in a five pound Yorky and a two hundred pound Great Dane, you're putting the same amount in, right, and you know that creates you know, that's basically destroying the whole immune system, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, no, it sure is. And uh, you know, the vaccines what they do is another interesting component of the vaccines is that because they stimulate, you know, the way they stimulate an immune response in the animal, it's almost like an allergy. It's an overactive immune response, so that even if the animal doesn't have an acute reaction to the vaccine, when they're exposed to the actual organism,

19:18 if they've been vaccinated, they get even sicker. So because it's more of an autoimmune disease, just like lime disease, it's more certain people are allergic to exposure to the line bactery and certain dogs are too, so when we vaccinate them, we actually sensitize the body to increased reactions in the future on follow up exposure, whether that be through more vaccines or through just coming across the organism and you know, in the wild or in the water supplies. And I should say also that it's mostly a problem in the world in very poor tropical climates where there's you know, standing water and portant you know, nutritional conditions like I mentioned earlier, petically, and you know, it's it's not really I mean, it's not even a reportable disease here in the United States. There are very few cases that occur, and it's really a blown out, blown up, you know, infectious disease to frighten people.

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22:11 And we're back here on the Pet Health Cafe to show where your pet has a voice. This is Build a Pet Health's Gurul with doctor Michael dem It was it was funny I was doing when I was doing some of the research, but something that just popped up in my general thing today. If this is a bacteria and antibiotics work, then most of the natural uh antibiotics that we find in nature like paudi arco and uh you know, some of the other other plant material, but also the number one antibiotic that we find out there that is part of basically diets of most mammals is raw hine. Isn't that just a natural treatment that if you take it on a regular basis you'll ever get it? Yeah? No, absolutely, raw honey is wonderful.

23:03 I just got a email from a client earlier I was worried about our dog with infectious kennel cough. I said, just start some raw honey, and yeah, probably enough to take care of it. But you're right, I mean, there are so many herbals that can replace doxy cycling, which you know, that antibiotic in people, and when it's used in our animals, it has an anti inflammatory effect on the body. In other words, it suppresses the body's expression of symptoms other than killing bacteria. So just because animals respond to it doesn't mean that the animal actually has an infection. That's the interesting thing about this particularly antibiotic. And so because of its suppressive effects on the body, it's going to reduce inflammation and you know, animals are going to feel a little better, are going to feel better when you know, the inflammation goes down. But you know, so it's not really like, as I said, you know, a real infectious disease threat. It's more of those animals that are exposed that have an excessive immune reaction to the bacteria, to the small bacteria. But you're right Bill about the herbs. I mean, there's certainly plenty of herbs. And then of course homeopathy works wonderfully.

24:19 Even there's a leptospirosis what's called nosode, which is a homeopathic remedy made from the bacteria diluted and shaken so that there's nothing left but the energy of the substance, and leptosporosis nosode is you know, if an animal is going to have a high risk of exposure, again is a nice non toxic way of preventing disease. But again I don't even worry my clients about it because to me, if they're doing what we're preaching on the show here on a regular basis, the odds of them contracting that heartworm disease and all these other frightened parasites and organisms, lime disease, et cetera goes way down. Of course, Yeah, it you know, it's it's interesting too. I mean the warning that normally I've heard from the l pass and that sort of thing, Well, you know, if you live in an area where maybe there's raccoons, and you know the animal may drink out of a puddle that a raccoon urinated in or nearby or whatever, and you know your your animals are are at high risk to get that. But basically, especially with what we talk about here and especially in my in my specialty area, when we're looking at raw at animals, they're getting seventy of their motions ninety moisture. Their water is living water from their food, and they're not drinking out of you

25:52 know, dirty puddles, are they No, not at all. Sure, that's ex excellent point. You know, they're getting all that moisture and they're not and you know they're not exposed because they're not drinking the water. Absolutely, it's a really good point. And they're not you know, and you know, I mean when you look at watching you know, especially our canines in our behavioral type things of taking them for walks after a rainstorm, they will ignit. You know, they smell every single puddle, but they walk past the first fifteen, twenty and maybe possibly number twenty three. They're drinking out of it. And that's because there's something in that water that their bodies still needs. Whether it's a mineral, whether it's a probiotic, but there's something you know, an herb because you know, if it's sitting in grass or different vegetation, that's an herbal tea. Right, their body kills them and they need that right, And keep in mind that as I mentioned earlier, when they're exposed to it, the lepto, if it happens to be in that puddle or canal standing water, if they're exposed, most of the raw fed animals they're not going to be affected by it. They're just gonna if they're exposed and might not an immune response and be over it. But they're not going to get all of these clinical syndromes that my allopathic colleagues report on that animals are suffering from, and that all comes from, you know,

27:22 weakening the immune system in the ways we talk about on a weekly basis with you know, the typical allopathic preventative healthcare model, which just does a number on the immune system. And the thing about lepto also, Bill, is now the fear has gone even into the boarding kennels and the doggie hotels. They're actually now requiring leptospirosis vaccine to even go into these kennels and doggie daycares, which you know, along with influenza and god knows what other vaccines they require. It's just an expanding arsenal of poisons being put into our animals. Yeah, you know, I want to remind people that of course that they can you know, jump into chat with their questions and comments and inquiries.

28:07 Also to remind people to go ahead and make sure that you like these podcasts, that you share them with your friends because we're trying to get this message out, and that you subscribe so you never miss an episode of what we do here, because it's the messaging is the most important part. And I'm glad we opened up even with you, you know, being on Dell Big Trees podcast because every place that you can get more information, you know, is good. You know, when I had my colleague from the store, Olivia, on a couple of weeks ago, it you know, it's all about learning, and of course we have to learn who we can put our trust in. You know, it's not always the experts that wear the white coats that are the the best sources, because as you know, having gone through you know, the indoctrination of medical school. What you know today is that what you learned in school. No, that's true, but the indoctrination, the brainwashing is amped up even higher than it ever has been.

29:18 The drug companies, the pet food companies, they've really amped up their campaigns to really get to the brains of young veninarians and you know, with very intimidating, you know, rhetoric, and you know, the movement in our profession is, you know, two more complex preventative healthcare models. In other words, the lepto being vaccinated with all these other components at the same time. And then you have all these flea and tick and HeartWare medications that are now all in one, so you have like multiple poisons and one pill or in one topical medicine. So the toxic onslaught to our animals, that of course is going to weaken the immune systems of many of them, of most of them, and lead to you know, occasional clinical infectious disease with organisms like leptos borrosis, which again most healthy animals and people don't really have to worry about it. I've probably been exposed to it in my thirty something years of veterinary medical practice. But you know, it's like anything, it's just you know, Mother nature and our own immune systems. Mother nature has all the herbs and the botanicals and all the plants and the other materials that homeopathic remedies are derived from that really have everything we need to stay and remain healthy and to treat conditions when they do occur. And you know, we don't

30:51 have to sound the fear the fear alarms that the roof is giving in one of the other things I've been looking at and you and I have discussed it at some sense. Of course, you know, the biocomplete line has you know, over one hundred and twenty five different herbals and botanicals in the collection, but we also have about twenty five to thirty different blends that we have, and of course we label them for specific type of issues. You know, everything from our heartworm and parasite which you know you highly recommend, to lime disease, to you know, hearten, blood pressure, healthy eyes, things of that nature, thyroid issues, hormone issues which of course are the results of in our paths of SPAE and neuter. But it's not about a single product either. That we should be doing these things on a rotational basis, because if we're you know, if you've got a thyroid issue or you were diagnosed, you know, your Dougle diagnosed with LEFTO. Okay, there's other issues going on, and we really need to start with that at the basic detox level. Cleaning out the liver, the kidney and the lymphatic system ner you know, going down to the cellular level with things like spur allina and Corella and astradaals and can Asia things like that, and you know, rotating through because when we were working on one part of the body, another

32:24 part is being neglected, if you will. It's it's not getting as many nutrients because we're moving them am over and you know, we're moving on the left side, not on the right side, and so if we're we're always chasing something to find homes stasis. I saw the question that came up. Yes, all these products that we sell and I can't vouch for anybody else that's out there in the market, but we've you know, these are all USDA Organic, third party tested for purity and you know, integrity, you know, making sure that you know, if it says spur allina, it's actually spur allina and not some other plant that was thrown in a vitamin which was found in a lot of the big box stores, you know, ten years ago when they started testing that it wasn't really what it's said. But yes, all of our products are are are that way because that's the way I want to live my life, and that I mean in some respects too.

33:19 That's actually how the food line started is I was feeding with I would eat and I want to eat healthy, and I I want to eat good and so you know, I'm not gonna give it like you're gonna give my dog or cats something that's second rate. I mean, come on, right exactly. I mean I was just at a house call before I came on the program here, and uh, I was talking to a gentleman from upstate New York, you know, so okay, and he said, when you know, just like you would say, I mean, you know, for years, we didn't even know what a veterinarian was. We just you know, we took care of our dogs. We fed them what we ate, and we didn't have all these chemicals and drugs and backaccines. And they all lived to be ripe old ages, you know, and you know they just it's just it's a it's just a crime and a tragedy. You know.

34:09 How we create the conventional veterinary community, creates the illness and creates the customers, just like the big pharma that just keeps the whole ball rolling and the sad thing Bill is is. Now we're seeing of course, because of that those practices over so many generations of animals. Now we're seeing these young because it's transmitted now genetically, you know, you know, through the medically, and we're seeing so much ill health in younger and younger animals because of this generational onslaught of of you know, medications and drugs and vaccines exactly, and it goes back to the simple you know, like always say, it goes back to mother nature. Yeah, let's get into this right after this quick break in and show how it's intergenerational. We'll be right back. Does your pet suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems?

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37:37 how it's passed down from generation to generation. I don't think most pet owners understand or realize that that's happening that over the last well since I've been in the business over fifty years. I mean when we were doing you know, possibly only four or five, you know, maybe two rounds of puppy shots and a raby shot, and you know you didn't have the Animal control tracking you down for more tax money, you know, to get your license renewed, you know, with another RABI vaccine, because that's basically what they did, right, you know, uh to you know we did was it last year or the year before when we actually did the comparison from people to you know, our our kids are getting up to seventy two different vatsin you know, seventy two vaccinations excluding the flu and all the seasonal stuff. And that's really by the time they graduate from college. And I did the comparison on the golden retriever at fifteen years old could be over one hundred and twenty if you followed all the recommendations, you know, and it's been building up generation after generation. And of course all those toxins are being transmitted through the blood from mom to baby, aren't they. Yeah, no, it's very very true. And you know, then they're coming out with these toxins, and the other immune systems, even in utero, like you said, are being barraged and exposed. And the thing you said about epigenetically and transmitted also genetically

39:07 through the generations is even the vaccines, what they do is is they create these auto antibodies against all the different tissues in the body, including the animals own DNA. So when you vaccinate and then there are antibodies against the animals own DNA, then you get mutations, and the mutations create new diseases that are then transmitted to the progeny, and then you have these new conditions in the subsequent generation. So that's one aspect of epigenetics that we're talking about is that, you know, and then we're seeing energetic transfer of disease. I know that's a little bit deeper, but you know, when animals are out of balance energetically, that's where illness and disease starts at that deeper level.

39:52 And so that energy is for example, animals that are vaccinated with rabies vaccine, if they're sick for Raby's vaccine, there's a chance there are puppies and kit puppies and kittens are going to be born with illness from being sick from Raby's vaccine. It's just it's just amazing that you know what we're doing and what we're doing to future generations. But you know, it's interesting to those same mutake. You know, those mutations that are going on because of this have given us what two hundred and fifty different dog breeds now, you know, some of which can't even breathe properly because of the characteristics. You know, it's it's a double edged sword basically when we look at this stuff, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, it is a double edged sword. There's no doubt about that. Bill, And you know we have to, you know, keep pounding the drum and really educating people, like you said, on venues like this, and people need to share our information and you know it, you know, the it's not just leptos borrosis, it's all these other poisons who are putting into our animals bodies. And you know, I would encourage clients not to buck to the pressures and not to get these vaccines, you know, against these diseases that aren't even a risk to most of our animals. You know. It's it's interesting too. You know, we

41:24 did a show a few weeks back which they can go back into the archives and YouTube and on the stations and stuff like that. You know, when is it really an emergency? You know, because every time you know something doesn't quite seem right, you know, people you know penumas did, they go into panic mode and of course they run, you know, to the local all paths and the first thing they ask you are you up to date with your vaccines? And you know, when you look at things like leto sporross, we look at lime disease, and we look at so many other so called diseases, essentially they almost all have a plethora of the same symptoms.

42:08 So how do you really you know, separate it. You know, listen, we diagnose you with lime disease last month, we can now do you lepto this week, and you know, give you a whole new set of drugs, right right, Actually it's the same drugs, but they yeah, but they change the brand. So therefore a lot of people think that they're you know, and I've had this happen in the store where they come in with a bag full of medications and shampoos and you know, supplements, an interra thing, and when you start to sell separate out. It's all the same product, but you know, sold under three different or four different labels by three or four different veterinarians just to get a sale. You're already taking the stuff, Why do you need another one? Right? Right exactly?

43:01 And you're right about just when to take your animal to the vet's. That's an important point to remember. It's just not when they have a little vomit or a little diarrhea, or they don't need for a day or two. That's not the time to rush off to the allopath and get bombarded with all sorts of testing and drugs. And you know, the thing is is that if they're not current on their vaccines, even when they're sick. The veterinarians often gonna then recommend giving the vaccines right at that time, which is actually even makes it even worse when they're vaccinating animals when they're ill with anything. Well, the inserts in I don't know, maybe like one hundred percent of the vaccines that are out there, so they can only be used a healthy animal. If you're at the vets office already with a sick animal, how can an allopath justify that? I don't know, Bill, it's just you know, especially the big one of course is rabies. You know, they will not see an animal, they will not treat an animal that hasn't been vaccinated for rabies, even if it's healthy. I mean animals. I mean, it's such a big fear around rabies. You know that not an animals living I mean that comes in ill with us, with symptoms that may need to be addressed. Let's say to just say, you know, where's your animals rabies vaccine? If he doesn't have it, we won't touch him.

44:22 I mean, animals not carrying rabies in their mouth. And you know that's important to realize that it's such fear that's not even based in any rational science or the way it is. And you know these you better you better check with that that famous that that the famous doctor that we've listened to for the last four years talking about science. Right, I'm not gonna mention his name. No, that's that's okay. You know the leptos burosis. I know it was our main topic earlier. Even the expert immunologists don't recommend vaccinating for it because again it's it's you know, he called it lepto mania.

45:06 His name is Don Schultz, and he was a meeting immunologist for many decades and he did not vaccinate his own animals for a lepto or recommend it, even in areas of the country where they were saying they were seeing it. And that's because again it was low prevalence and the vaccine doesn't work. It's not safe. Yep. Okay. So now you just came off your world tour. Tell people where they can where they can reach you, and how we can help them even more. Well, they can go to my website, which is doctordimm dot com. That's doc t O. R. Dym dot com. That has my contact information, my email address, and I work with people locally in the South Florida area, as well as doing phone consults nationwide. So welcome and the dues. Yeah, I've been keeping up with you. The improvements on your website are very very good. I see you're you're you're, you're expanding our views as far as topics on your little videos. That's great. Go to go to doctor uh doctor dam and you'll hear sometimes it will sound a little bit redundant it's coming from but the messages we can always say the same thing so many times. If we say it different ways, it resonates with different people. And that's the important, excellent point, Bill, And most of these different diseases have the similar causes and treatments, you know, from our perspective, right, that's why it's important

46:39 to expose people to these various conditions and just keep banging home the same message because as I said, you know, we have to keep up ourselves with with our allopathic brethren. Then try and really stay ahead of the game. And what what was what's the cure for everything that Pocult's taught us? Right, Let food be thy medicine and medicine my food. That's exactly right. I told that to Dell Big Tree. Right, yeah, it's uh, you know, it's absolutely there. And with that, I mean we're you know, within the last thirty seconds here. You know, you can reach me of course through my Paleopath, through pet Health Guru on Facebook. You know, products are available through our website and hopefully we'll soon be linking them with doctor DIM's website as well, and uh you know, uh, hopefully you all have healthier, happier pets. With that, I want to say, good night, folks. It was a pleasure another hour for them.

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