Heartworm & Parasites What Do I Do???

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treatment program. Then now it's time
for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has

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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and

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welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to
show where your pet has a voice.

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Yes, this is Bill Pet Health
Guru, along with my special guest host,

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doctor Michael dam How are you doing, doctor, I'm doing pretty well.

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Bill. How's it going today,
Hey, at least it hasn't rained

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during the day today, but let's
say it's getting ready to again. Yeah,

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weather was nice and cooler. That's
good to let a couple of days.

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So that's a relief, a relief
and now right, yeah, of

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course, you know we're now facing
U guess shortages here in Florida and especially

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South Florida. Yeah, that's last
week's rain. Yeah, last week's rain

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took out I guess there a lot
of capacity at the port at Port Everglades

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were most of the guest line comes
in. I know, it's like this

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morning, I almost got caught with
a zero gas. I found the station

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in a more remote section of where
I live, and uh, but it's

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really hard. I mean a lot
of them are just out of gas.

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Yeah, terrible, Yeah it is. And of course, you know,

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we've got a walla round in front
of our store, and I didn't get

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I was gonna go over to today
and you know, fill up, and

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every time I looked out, there
were lines. Yeah. Crazy, I

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mean I haven't I don't think I've
seen jazz lines. And you know since

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one of the hurricanes, right,
No, I know, I hope it

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ends soon. I mean it's I
mean, how long can this go on

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for it? I mean the supply
should be I mean, you know,

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the weather was what a week a
week or so ago. Yeah, well

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they're talking um. There's now reported
that Fort Lauderdale because it was so much

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water um and the um city Hall
got so much water in it it wiped

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out basically all their electronics there,
you know, acs, heaters, all

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that stuff, and that they're they're
looking to do, possibly close it and

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find a new place. Yeah.
Yeah, well hopefully it'll get up and

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going soon. Yeah. And of
course we know that, you know,

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with the ken trails and what they've
been doing with weather manipulation, there's a

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good chance and a lot of this
stuff is, you know, being created

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artificially, right, right, I
agree? Thirty inches of rain. God,

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you know that's never even in the
worst of hurricanes. No, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, well it happens
to be heartworman parasite week. Hey,

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I don't think I've ever heard those
terms before, have you. Right,

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it's something we've never heard of,
right, I just take your pet

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into the local conventional that and those
are the first things that come up in

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discussion, that's for sure, exactly. And I'll be honest. On social

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media, they've increased the amount of
advertising for those toxic, nasty products.

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Yeah, I mean it's amazing.
I mean any even nighttime television. I

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mean, you just the commercials are
just amazing, you know. I know

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when I watched some of the Fox
News radio programs, I mean that's like

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the main commercials are for these pesticides. I see them all the time.

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Yeah, And with that being said, they all come with a long list

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of toxic side effects, don't they. Yeah, especially the nervous system.

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You know, these products are supposed
to be. The way they're marketed is

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they're supposed to be exclusive to the
nervous system of the flea or the thick

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in other words, paralyzing the nervous
system of those pests. But I but

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we find that it can actually cause
the same syndromes and our animals, in

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fact, even to the point where
we see severe seizures and other neurologic disorders,

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paralysis and so. And of course
you know, we both know what

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those products are doing to the liver
and the rest of the body. So

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yeah, I mean the side effects
are pretty strong. And you know when

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they read that list of side effects
at the end of the commercial, you

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know, we have to listen to
those side listen to that because those are

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real. Those are just those are
seen in the veterinary clinics and seen out

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there in our animal companions, and
they're not rare in my opinion. Well,

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the other thing is is, you
know when you see some of the

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you know, all these different side
effects and you go in and say,

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hey, you know, doctor,
my dog is now scratching and itching,

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my dog is now got diarrhea,
my dog has got chronic here infections.

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Never had it before. In his
life and the only thing that was changed

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was the type of blee and tick
or heartworm medication that was given. Do

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you think it could be possibly that? And what's the normal response to the

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animal health industry. Yeah, of
course they're going to say absolutely not.

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These are problems that are related to
either you know, dietary indiscretion or allergies.

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You know that term, you know, that's the terms we constantly see

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used. And you know, when
clients asked me, I mean, I

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say, as we talk about all
the time, it's the side of that

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one big word that we talk about, toxicity. Yeah. Well, it's

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interesting because a few years back,
I guess it's probably eight nine years ago,

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and I can't find the article anymore
because it's been taken I don't offline,

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but the primary trade economic magazine in
the veterinary trade actually did a thing

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on heartworm and they actually tested the
products and published in their own magazine that

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none of these products that we tested
work, but advised of veterinary community the

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industry if you will, to keep
selling them, because one company alone sells

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over a billion dollars a year,
and you know, be damned it happens

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to your pat yeah, exactly the
syndromes we talk about. Yeah, and

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you know, the thing about these
products are especially for heartworm. I remember

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there was a professor of mine at
Penn. His name was doctor David Knight,

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and he wrote an ecle back in
the nineties early nineties on heartworm prevention.

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And he was the president of the
American Heartroom Society Ventory Heartroom Society at

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that time, the first president,
and he was considered very well respected,

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brilliant cardiolo ventory conventional venary cardiologists,
and he wrote this article on on heartwarm

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preventatives and how you know, even
from the allopathic perspective that you know that

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we were recommending year round prevention.
And he was talking about how the disease

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transmission season that for those parasites or
only three to five months a year in

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most areas of the country. And
so he was saying, you know,

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again from an allopathic perspective, which
at least what he was talking about made

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some sort of conventional sense, is
that we shouldn't be recommending preventative year round.

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We should be educating clients of when
their pet might be at risk.

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Again, everything I'm saying is from
a conventional vet perspective, and he went

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on to say, and then we're
combining all of these different poisons in one

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product. And he was very much
against that as well, you know,

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from both a safety perspective as well
as not even a necessary perspective, because

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what they're putting in these heartworm you
know, pesticide preventatives are other flee and

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tick parasitied parasitides. They're putting in
the warmers that aren't needed for you know,

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very rare intestinal parasites that are mainly
seen in younger animals. So they're

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combining more and more poisons in one
medicine and this is not what he spoke

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about we should be doing. And
you know, the industry has gone so

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far to the extreme the other way, and you know, we forget what

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pioneers in the Venary profession talked about
decades ago, which is still true.

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I mean it's it's still the transmission
season is still only a few months a

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year in most areas of the country, and yet the profession recommends year round

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prevention with these poisons. Well it's
interesting too, because you know, a

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lot of the lot of the heartworm
research was done that you know, University

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of Pennsylvania and several of the vets
that I had back in the seventies that

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I was working with m when we
were selling puppies back then. We're part

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of that project, and it's you
know, it's so I was familiar with

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all the background stuff back then,
and there is no essentially, first off,

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it does not prevent anything, doesn't
No, no, not at all.

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Yeah, that's what it sold as. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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it's sold as. And you know, and then when they get animals that

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turn up positive that are using the
products, they say, well, it's

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a rare case that didn't work,
or it's um or it's heartworm resist or

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its, or it's resistant rare resistant
parasites. But you know, I've seen

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those in the conventional clinic where animals
are taking these things year round and they

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still come up being positive. And
you know, we have to keep in

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mind, which I know we'll probably
get into, is is why these conventionally

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raised animals test positive or or become
you know, clinical with signs of symptoms

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from heartworm exposure and so um.
You know, we have to remember that,

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you know, these conventionally raised animals
are so poisoned and intoxicated with so

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many things that you know, our
holistic you know, audience and customers aren't

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that that's why they're seeing clinical heartworm
disease in those patients. Well, a

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little bit about you know, in
the cycle of the of the you know,

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heartworm. First off, it's only
carried by one species of mosquitoes as

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far as I if it's the research
is still you know currentum and you have

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to be the dog has got to
be bit several times, um, probably

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by very by multiple mosquitoes, because
once it gets in the body, it's

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it's only male and female heartworms in
order to be able to reproduce. Generally

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speaking, most of the cases that
we've seen down here in South Florida are

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usually animals that are being rescued from
the islands where they're tied outside all the

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time or in doghouses. And you
know, when you walk out in your

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backyard in any tropical or subtropical and
even up north, you know, during

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the middle of the summertime, you
know, the middle of the day,

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you don't see very many mosquitoes.
But if you go into a garden shed

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for instance, where it's moist and
dark, opened it up, and there's

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mosquitoes all over the place because they
light those dark, moist places like a

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doghouse. Right, And then of
course where are they gonna bite the dog?

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Normally in the groin area where it's
very little hair. And I remember

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going back years and years ago and
talking with groups of veterinarians and trying to

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teach this stuff. I always ask
the audience, Okay, have you ever

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been bit by a mosquito? Everybody
raises their hands on the top of your

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head. All the hands go down
right right, good Christmas. Mosquitoes don't

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like the hair. They can't get
down to the skin easily, right,

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right, So if they get into
the and when they get into that coat,

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um, if there's you know,
of course every creature um has predators

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out there. If they get caught
in that coat, they can't get away

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from whatever predators and it might be
in that coat, so they're not going

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to risk it. Yeah. Now, and let's just say, okay,

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now, that mosquito bit. You
know, we got multiple bites, and

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it takes anywhere estimated from six to
nine months basically for the larva to be

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able to move to the heart.
Now, if you have a healthy animal

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in that bloodstream where they're now embedded. Isn't there a whole natural system to

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eliminate parasites, bacteria, fungus,
is any any foreign invader? Yeah,

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sure, I mean there's natural you
know, the immune system is designed to

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remove these invaders exactly. So the
chances of that goes three or four or

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five larva making it to the heart
after being exposed to a healthy immune system

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for six to nine months, what
are the chances of it ever making it

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there? Very small, especially as
we said, in the holistically reared animal,

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but even in the conventionally raised animals, the incidents is very very small.

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Yeah, but it's a sales tool, It's it's a profit. It's

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a big it's a major profit center
for the clinics and the hospitals, isn't

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it. It sure is, And
it's expensive. Those are not cheap medications.

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And as I said, now they're
combining them with flee and tech medication

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and you know wormers all in one. And it's just it's an overwhelming,

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poisonous cocktail is what it is.
And it's you know, back decades ago,

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remember all they had, you know, as you know, Bill would

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be like heart Guard, you know, the brand name which there's basically ivermectin,

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and then they started, you know, adding all of these other substances

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to the preventative and removing themselves from
really what was the intended you know,

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preventative, what was the intended target
of their preventative medication, and it was

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heartworms. But they said, oh
no, this is a better opportunity for

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us to incorporate all these other you
know, toxic medications, not taking into

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account that most of these animals even
are are not going to get these other

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you know powers and intestinal worms,
I mean, hookworms and roundworms and a

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healthy adult animal are really very rare
and if we see them, it's it

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means the gut is messed up and
the whole bodies detoxification mechanims are messed up

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because it's just you know, healthy
adult dogs just don't get intestinal worms.

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No, it's interesting too because you
know, just to keep bringing in the

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testing side of it, now that
you know testing for parasites, they're using

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the same the now infamous PCR tests, right, he basically is going to

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show parts of protein. But that
doesn't mean that the animals actively have parasites,

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does it. No, not at
all. It's just like you said,

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it's looking at protein sequences and just
assuming that they're that those indicate you

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know, adult worm infections, whereas
most of the cases they don't, you

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know what for decades, and you
know, people will say, well,

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we're now more sensitive at picking these
things up, but there's also more false

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positives, you know, just like
found with the COVID nineteen testing, and

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you know, the old days,
you know, remember how we did it

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was we just took some float and
you know, it took some zinc sulfate

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solution and floated in the office and
you know, looked and so off we

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saw any eggs or live parasites and
that's how we diagnosed it. And animals

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weren't dying like or becoming you know, wasting away from parasites when we used

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to do it that way. But
as medicine has gotten more complex and more

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confusing in their testing, it's actually
led to increased false positives and increased you

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know, usage of these toxic medications
and preventatives when we don't really need them.

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And it's it's it's so true,
you know, I mean, and

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I'm glad you brought up the fact
that we used to do through a simple

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float. Now I mean most of
my customers. When I look and when

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they bringing in records and I'm looking
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they're doing a check in in house. I don't even know what to how

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they're checking that in house anymore.
But then they also send it out for

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um more testing and then the PCR, so they're actually being checked for parasites

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with three separate bills on the invoice. Wow, I didn't even know that.

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I mean the clinics I've done some
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do one test. But you're saying
there's now three of them at these places.

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of course my first first thought on
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I think is I guess the veterinarians
and the texts that are working there aren't

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savvy enough in them wording that very
carefully to be able to detect it with

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a simple microscope. No, because
they're, like you said, they're going

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to these you know, they're just
shipping all these samples out because they assume

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that they're much more sensitive at the
lab. And you know, as you

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said, you know, these extra
tests, you know, as we're talking

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about often pick up background protein material
which doesn't really indicate that the parasite is

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even present. But they're testing positive
for these proteins, and then they're being

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recommended that they worm these animals,
you know. And the truth is is

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in a lot of these cases,
they don't need to be wormed because it's

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a false positive, right exactly.
And I just got a question that came

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in and it's like, Okay,
aren't aren't these worms, especially round worms

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and hookworms and things like that,
transmitted by dog poop. The reality is

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they're transmitted by poop from any animal, isn't it right? Well? Sure,

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I mean they can come from raccoons
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and other other animals, dunks,
rats, mice, right right, and

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even even birds. And the thing
that people, you know, and this

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is a good homeopathic perspective, is
is that there are worms that are in

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the body and low numbers that are
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that or recognize that either where you
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and kittens are actually born testing positive
for worms, because the mothers have them

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in their bodies and then through the
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the parasites to the puppies. And
so you know, in low numbers,

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the worms are there in low numbers, and then under hormonal or other stressful

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situations like pregnancy, in milking or
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the worms become more active and multiply
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know, the fact that I know
we're may get into it is that a

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low number of parasites is normal in
these animals. Right Okay, we're right

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up against the break right now.
I want to get into more of that

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because there's there's actually a lot of
physiological reasons why while we're going through that

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wellping or birthing state, that these
parasites have it the opportunity to proliferate.

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Dim. Now we've brought up something
about you know, the young puppies always

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end up with, you know,
with with higher parasite loads while they're um,

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while their puppies actually and of course
they're obviously coming from mom. And

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part of that isn't it just make
kind of common sense that the body in

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an active, normal, healthy animal, it's going to keep these things all

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at bay or at least, you
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when the body's going through pregnancy,
we're taking those resources, that that nutrition

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and that health and we're moving it
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which is taking part of the defense
mechanism away from mom. Isn't it Absolutely?

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It's a good way of looking at
a bill, good point, you

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know, so you're going to obviously
see more and of course, you know,

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the way most people end up,
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hospital for worms is because we literally
see the body expelling them, don't we.

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Yeah, it's what the body is
supposed to do. That's exactly right,

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it's working, right, yeah.
Yeah. So just because we're identifying

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the eggs and the stools of you
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kittens, doesn't mean we have to
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and Actually, when we keep doing
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we're putting added toxins into fat cells, into body tissue, doesn't that susceptibility

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increase over time? Absolutely does?
It sure does, because like you said,

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we are affecting the gut biome with
these powerful warmers, and we're causing

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the intestinal or mucos, the lining
of the bowels to become inflamed and irritated

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and what we call leaky. And
then we're getting into all sorts of other

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immune conditions, not only short term
but long term in these animals. And

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you know you brought it up,
of course, you know we're seeing as

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all these and of course not only
the conventional intentional worm products, but also

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the heart heart worm products and the
fleet products. Especially what is the load

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on the filtration system, the liver, kidneys, lymphatic system when we get

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when we reach these high levels,
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mean, just like you said,
it starts at the gut level, and

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then that's the window to the liver
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and the kidneys and all the bodies. Detoxification mechanisms the way they evolved become

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overwhelmed, and then you're getting all
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the animal, you're going to get
all sorts of other symptoms and other body

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systems that are certainly much more serious
than a low worm burden in the animal.

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Well, what are the other things
too? Because you know, you

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and I discuss detoxification a lot,
and of course you know we're actually it

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isn't kind of worming, like a
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the chemical load it. Sure it
does, it's exactly right. Yeah,

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the dichotomy. Yeah, but at
the same yeah, at the same time,

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Okay, if we're destroying that the
filtering system, okay, the long

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term, Um, we go in
and we do the detox for the liver,

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kidney, lymphatic system, all of
that and the gun Now the body

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has also had on the backside.
Doesn't it have to replace all those damaged

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and dead cells and disease cells that
the body is getting rid of. Absolutely

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it does, and that puts even
more stress on the body. But yeah,

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it has to go into overdrive for
sure, and you would obviously need

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to have an upscale enough plane on
the nutritional side. Wouldn't you, That's

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for sure. I agree. And
you know you think of these you know,

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these schedules or the wormings or these
young animals, and it's they're starting

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at like two weeks of age Bill, when they're still nursing, they're still

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not even on solid food, and
they're giving worming medications, you know,

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to those young two weeks old puppies, and then they're often doing it every

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week, just warming them. And
those medications are not even approved or shouldn't

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be used even allopathically speaking, more
than once every three weeks, but they're

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doing it every week in that young
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that's just wreaking havoc. I mean, I can't tell you when I look

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at the like you say, you
look at the paperwork of the of the

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of the animals that the clients bring
in, and you know, any young

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puppy, let's say a puppy comes
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age and ten weeks of age,
you look at the medical history and the

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health certificate, and you're seeing not
only all those vaccines that they don't need,

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but you're seeing wormings that are given
and flee and tick and heartwarm medications

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that are given way too frequently to
these young animals. Well, you know,

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if you look at animals that are
produced for you know, commercial sale,

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you know the you know, the
puppies and kittens, um, you

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know, especially more so in a
designer breeds or pure breads that they're basically

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you know, supplied to the pet
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Every time it changes hands, you
have to have a brand new health certificate.

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Every health certificate you have to you
have to put in what the latest

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vaccines, wormings, medical interventions are. When I started in the trade,

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a health certificate mentho, the veterinarian
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physical and signed off to the animal
look healthy to them, then started with

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the vaccine and warming. And we
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and you have to start a new
routine, you know, you have to

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have a new health certificate with brand
new vaccine and wormings. It's because we

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can't really trust that the act that
the last veterinarian actually did it right,

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you know, for the government agencies
and the veterinary associations to make that,

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weren't they slamming their own members.
Absolutely. Yeah, they're not trusting that

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their members can do a good job. And just you know, with the

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first health certificate, right and of
course now you know, you and I

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are seeing all the other medications and
therapies and everything else that's out there.

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If you go to and I don't
care what the issue is, if you

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go to four different standard allopathic clinics
and not go to the specialties after that,

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but just go to four different one
with the symptoms, what's the likelihood

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that you'll get for concurring diagnosis.
Yeah, very small, very small,

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that's for sure. Yeah, you're
probably gonna get four different opinions, and

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you're going to get prescribed different medications, different drugs, different vitamins, different

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supplements. And when you resually look
at the backside, if you compare what

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they are, it's the same medications, same supplements, same vitamins, but

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inner a different label. Yeah.
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They are the same. So yeah, I mean we talked about it with

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the testing Um podcast that we did
that you know, you can you get

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the basic diagnosis from a good old
fashioned practitioner, you probably have a more

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accurate diagnosis than with all these fancy
the fancy equipment and testing and everything else

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at probably five percent of the costs. And at the end of the day,

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if you took two the two animals
and went in both directions, the

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medications at the end of world be
the same. That's very true. Yeah,

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you know they have to pull a
little toolbox. Yeah. Yeah,

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and then the medications have become much
more, much stronger. And like I

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said, typically even to these young
puppies, they're giving combination warmers, which

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are you know, not even the
old fashioned member. We used to just

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use the old horse warmer strongen in
the puppies, you know, and that's

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what or you know nmex or whatever
the label, Yeah, yeah, it

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was nmex. That was that was
a pyranta um and go one. No,

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now they're they're using again, even
in these young puppies, these combination

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you know compounds, these warmers,
you know, the ones that get not

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only rand worms and hookworms, but
get tapeworms and and you know, giardia

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and all these other parasites that are
you know, so overkill for those young

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gut immune systems. And that's really
you know, really tragic, and people,

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you know, get these young puppies
and they're they're wagging their tails and

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they want to get them started on, you know, a holistic lifestyle.

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If it's coming into yours or my
store, your store or my clinic,

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and uh, you know, we
have to detox these puppies when they're so

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young. It's so it's so tragic, you know that we have to do

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that. That's exactly right. It's
it's it's almost I consider in Stanley,

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I really do, and it's it
just doesn't nothing makes any sense. Right.

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And then if you throw in Billy, if people are going to the

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typical shelters and humane societies and rescue
organizations, then if you throw if you

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look at those animals, people want
to give those, you know those and

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you know, like you said,
the animals coming from the islands after storms

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and and you know, tragedies and
or even if somebody just wants to give

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a you know, a shelter animal
at home. You look at the health

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record and it's just bombarded with with
with not only the warmers, but then

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you throw the vaccines in and the
and the early spain and neutering when they're

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like not even six to eight weeks
of age and you're starting out with such

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chronically ill young patients, even if
they have no symptoms at that time,

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you know they're going to develop symptoms
of illness because their their immune systems have

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already been bombarded. I had a
customer, a returning customer, came in

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UM just to give you a case
UM a couple of days ago. And

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they because they moved away, they
were feeding UM like one of the commercial

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raw foods and not really's explaining the
difference between what we do and what they

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do. And she now works literally
across the street from from our store,

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and she said, we want to
get back on I got to talk to

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my body from another the doll that
but she got a big dog and then

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she's got this little dog that when
they did a blood test, deliver values

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were highly elevated. Of course,
you know what they put them on on

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food. And she says, how
do you well, how do you holistically

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rebuild a liver? I said,
well, if you study ancient Chinese medicine,

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you feed like with like. And
I said, so give the dog

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X the liver. And she looked
at me. She says, why would

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that make a difference. I said, because the chemical makeup, the biochemical

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00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:51.079
makeup of all livers is pretty basic, isn't it. It sure is.

407
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.839
It's very much similar course of course, you know, species even. Yeah,

408
00:33:54.880 --> 00:34:01.519
so if you turn around and you
feed liver for nutrition, you have

409
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:12.159
basically a biologically balance nutritional plan for
the liberto't you. Yeah, you sure

410
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do. And you know, we
talk about that relative to other organ systems

411
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.360
when there are problems, whether it's
the brain, right, you give,

412
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:25.639
brain tissue yep, arts arts right, green, all that stuff, pancreas.

413
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.719
Sure, yeah, it's I mean, I mean, that's that's amazing.

414
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.760
We got about thirty seconds here.
But it's it's interesting because it it

415
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was like she's sitting in front of
me, and it's like somebody flipped a

416
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switch and a light came on.
At least it came on. At least

417
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.719
it came on. It didn't stay
off. Yeah, you're right there,

418
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.920
and that's that's the interesting thing.
Okay, we're right against the break here

419
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again, and then we'll come back
and wrap up parasites. Does your pet

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Let my Paleopet help keep your pet
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444
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Health Cafe. So we're your pet
head of voice. This is Bill the

445
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Pet health Guru along with doctor Michael
dim Okay. So we got about fifteen

446
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:20.400
minutes to wrap everything up here.
A couple of things that you know,

447
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:30.760
if your animal is on an optimal
nutritional plane, meaning that you're doing the

448
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:36.400
species of appropriate diet, you're doing
raw rether than cooked, no chemical additives

449
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:43.599
and not putting you know, the
topicals and the injectables and the ingested.

450
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:51.719
What's the likelihood of actually having a
major parasite problem. Oh, very very

451
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.159
low, Bill. I mean it's
uf you know, if we can just

452
00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.280
get that point across to the guardians
that just eliminating all those source is of

453
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:06.920
external toxic toxicity, that the odds
of parasites overgrowing in an animal are really,

454
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.599
I would say, near zero.
I mean, it's got to be

455
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.239
down there right exactly now. One
of the other things I was thinking of

456
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.360
during the break here is because we
were talking about puppies and kittens and you

457
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:23.400
know, basically nursing animals, and
for the most part, one of the

458
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:31.159
recommendations I've been making for four fifty
years. God, it's hard to believe

459
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:37.400
that, but what we used to
do back back then is if you hit

460
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:46.400
a puppy, a kitten, net's
pregnant. Okay. A great nutritional idea

461
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:52.800
that we had that we actually followed
is a week the two weeks before we

462
00:38:52.880 --> 00:39:02.639
weelping, giving birth, whatever.
Is using an increasing in a body as

463
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.960
a food product raw milk, whether
it was cow's milk, goat's milk,

464
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:15.000
whatever, because the components of the
nutrition again, like we were just talking

465
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:20.719
about the liver. Isn't that going
to aid in milk production? A higher

466
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:28.400
quality higher amount in that lactating animal. Yeah, sure would. And that's

467
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.719
a good point. Feeding those raw
milk products you know back right at that

468
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.519
time, are gonna really optimize healthy
milk production. Absolutely, so the body's

469
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.679
note doesn't have to actually draw like
the calcium out of the bones because it's

470
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:50.239
in the food. Yeah, in
the most natural form, along with all

471
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.280
the enzymes and hormones that they need, right right, I mean you and

472
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.440
you're not getting deficiency states, right. And of course when we look at

473
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:04.239
these raw foods, it's not not
just about certain minerals of certain nutrients.

474
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:10.199
It's the hormones and enzymes that are
also in that that makes that creates the

475
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:16.679
synergy that the body need that energy. That's that's basically what synergy is.

476
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.679
It's that energy to be able to
use it all, isn't it. Yeah,

477
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.800
sure, it's it's as nature intended. You can't get better than that,

478
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:30.239
right, absolutely. Um. But
now when we look at it,

479
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:37.480
Okay, in nature, less than
three percent of wild canine end up with

480
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:45.880
heartwork. And so obviously you know, obviously here we're down here in Florida

481
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.400
and in it solved where you got
you know, twelve months of basically warmer

482
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.719
weather, the instance is gonna be
a lot higher when you go up north,

483
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:59.599
it's going to be almost zero.
Um. So that's still a very

484
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:07.880
tiny amount in the in the whole
canine world. Obviously, in nature,

485
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:15.519
they have mechanisms that tell them what
they need to eat, drink and just

486
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.039
roll in topically whatever to get rid
of parasites. Please. For instance,

487
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:28.000
you know, wild animals will roll
in a in a patch of lavender or

488
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.840
spearmint or peppermint or any of the
men family, and that kills all the

489
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.280
fleas, doesn't it. Yeah,
sure it does. Natural natural exposure to

490
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.679
what goes pure, what people do
potential oils from absolutely yeah, yeah,

491
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.639
Okay, they drink out of certain
puddles. Okay. Now, for instance,

492
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.000
at Biocomplete, uh, you know
our brand, and you know of

493
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:55.960
both herbs and mechanical blends. One
of the things that we've used for decades

494
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:05.840
is black wallet hall okay, because
those animals will drink underneath a walnut tree,

495
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.679
that water that is black. It
looks like a cup of coffee.

496
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:14.519
It's so dark, so much cannon
and other components in it. Okay,

497
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.559
gets ridden. It's actually a blood
cleanser and gets rid of heartworms naturally without

498
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.559
pretty a chemical that's going to sit
in a body for the whole lifetime,

499
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:29.960
it's expelled. Herbals and foods are
normally expelled in about twenty four to forty

500
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.119
hours, aren't they. Yeah,
that's very true. And you know when

501
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.360
people come into you know, my
clinic and there, and they're still nervous

502
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.719
about heartworms and parasites and worms,
even though I do my best to get

503
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.079
them off of that mindset that they
have to give a preventative every month,

504
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.639
I say, well, you know, just call my friends and my paleo

505
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.119
pet and get them on some herbal
botanicals that include black walnut and wormwood and

506
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.800
Quasia bark and all the other herbs
that you know are certainly you know,

507
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.119
more gentler on the body than these
poisons, not that they even need,

508
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.960
not that that you know, if
they just go on the species appropriate role

509
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.840
diet, they don't even need those
things, you know, for the most

510
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.280
part. And they're just not gonna
get They're not going to become positive bill,

511
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.280
They're not going to get, you
know, clinically. And the truth

512
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.440
of the matter is is with that, you know, but if you use

513
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.800
that products on a regular basis,
and you don't need to use it every

514
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.400
day. It's once twice a week, three times a week. Can anyone

515
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.000
wants you, you know, not
your socks off. But because of the

516
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.239
ingredients in there, actually some of
those products are blood clensers, so it's

517
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.880
going to keep anything that's bad in
the blood out. Number two, it's

518
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.960
got tumeric in it. Tumeric not
only is going to get ridden that not

519
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:44.960
only doesn't get rid of intestal parasites. At the same time it's doing that,

520
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.559
it's actually healing the gut. And
you know, so it's not a

521
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:55.280
single you know, it's not like
drugs where I'm just nuking everything. These

522
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:02.360
all these natural products actually are doing
multiple functions within the body, aren't they.

523
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.440
Yeah, yeah, just as you're
saying it's they're not just you know,

524
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.199
a poison just you know, destroying, destroying the you know, the

525
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.039
whole gut. You know, these
are you know again, this is what

526
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.119
they do in nature. As you
said, they they drink the puddle below

527
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.519
the walnut tree. They know what
herbs to eat when they're about. You

528
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.760
know, there's a wisdom that animals
know. They'll they'll eat the grasses and

529
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.960
the herbs that they know that they
need. It's uh, you know,

530
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.360
nature has a wisdom about it as
well. So you know when we come

531
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.800
in with these artificial products and these
drugs, just you know, it's just

532
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:45.119
not necessary from my perspective as a
holistic veterinarian. You know, it's interesting

533
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:52.360
because you you have probably you're probably
one of the heroes out there in the

534
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.639
industry. Um, because you know, you were in teleopathic you weren't happy.

535
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:05.440
You studied homeopathy under the great One, and um, you know when

536
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:09.480
we first met, that's where you
you were headed. And over time you

537
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:15.519
have started to integrate so much more
as far as nutrition so much and using

538
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.960
in that nutrition the herbals as well, the botanicals as well, because that

539
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:27.960
is it's it's food, it's not
a supplement. Right. I have to,

540
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.639
you know, commend you for that, because thank you, you've been

541
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:37.400
on You've been on a journey and
sometimes it has a few speed bumps,

542
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.920
isn't it. Absolutely It always always
bumps along our journeys. There's ups and

543
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.559
downs, right Bill, But thank
you. I I you know, and

544
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.239
like you talked about last week,
it's a journey from evolving from that supplement

545
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:55.440
mindset, which I still you know, in an evolutionary you know process where

546
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.039
you talked about last week, or
all those fillers that go into just even

547
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:06.800
nutritional supplements that are not not natural
foods, not herbals, not botanicals,

548
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.480
which are as you say, foods
and that's what we should be giving our

549
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:15.199
animals to, you know, for
health, for treatment, for prevention,

550
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.000
and so yes, it's uh,
you know, definitely been an evolving journey.

551
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.480
Well what are the other things too? Is that? Um? You

552
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:32.840
know when people come to you and
I were consoles, Okay, we take

553
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.159
the time to explain how the system
actually works. Now, not everybody gives

554
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.400
them I understand that. And of
course that's why we have this forum.

555
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.320
You know, they can jump on
their their iPhones or androids, hit the

556
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.920
podcast button, listen to us hundreds
and hundreds of hours of information there.

557
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.360
You do it at your own pace. Um, you know, it's it's

558
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:01.840
all part of it. But PET
members have to take that responsibility. Yes,

559
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:07.679
PEP parents don't they absolutely? You
know, Holistic health is not just

560
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.239
uh, I mean, it's a
it's an empowering journey where you know,

561
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:19.920
it takes effort and it takes you
know, time and understanding and getting away

562
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.440
from that quick fixed mentality where we
want to take a pill or take an

563
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:28.159
injection or you know, take a
medication to get rid of a symptom,

564
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.039
and that's not how health works.
No, okay, so we got two

565
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.000
minutes here. Um, people can
get a hold of you how because when

566
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.039
you need to get you, we
need to keep you really busy. Yeah,

567
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:42.840
well they can go to my website
which is doctordim dot com. That's

568
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:49.719
DC T O R dym dot com
or one word that has my email address,

569
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.280
my contact phone number. I prefer
email since I do get inquiries,

570
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.559
I don't have a I don't have
my own secretary, so you know,

571
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.840
I work with people all over the
country. Distance should not be a problem

572
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.360
and as exactly right to push for
you know, the pet health Guru.

573
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.880
Um. You know you can always
get me through biocomplete natural diets, through

574
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:19.159
on social media, the pet health
Guru, UM, through our retail outlet

575
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:25.840
which is my paleopet dot com or
my paleopet physical location and uh you know

576
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:35.559
schedule and you know a consult We
can literally we see animals change just in

577
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:43.800
the dietary part alone, physically change
and you can attest to this and sometimes

578
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:49.760
seven days. Yeah, it's amazing
the body you can heal remarkably, And

579
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.559
you know, you just have to
give it a chance and take the leap

580
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.039
of faith and understand and like you
said, do their own reading about things

581
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.079
that they're at their own pace,
because everybody he's at a different point on

582
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:05.599
their evolving journey. But if they
make the effort and the time and they

583
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.760
really you know, make the make
the transition, I don't think they'll be

584
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:14.280
disappointed. And the other thing is
is okay, when your animal has a

585
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.239
reaction, when you start changing diet
and you start changing eddy and herb the

586
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:24.800
nessary thing just because you see symptoms
like diarrhea, vomiting, skin eruption,

587
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.440
ear infection, that's the body just
doing its natural thing. And you know,

588
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.639
I want people to understand that that. Don't be afraid of that.

589
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.039
It's just like us. You know, we go through and we when we

590
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.320
have to cleanse, we cleanse and
then we feel better, don't we.

591
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.639
Yeah. Yeah, the body has
to go through that to get rid of

592
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.159
all those toxins that we've described in
this and many other programs. It's it's

593
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.920
it's not just a one shot deal, literally, not a one process deal.

594
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.519
I mean the health transition, the
health changes, like you said,

595
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.039
can be very rapid. But then
the body does have to do some house

596
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.760
cleaning, as we say, and
so that's part of healing, and that's

597
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.320
what we have to educate our clients
on. Doctor dim a pleasure, another

598
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:15.199
great show. We're at the end
of it here, and you know we'll

599
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.679
come up with some other screwy topic
for next week. Sounds good, Bill,

600
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:38.400
Hopefully that's a great healthy week.
Thank you you too. How healthy

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