C(U)re Your & Your Pets Fatigue The Role of Copper

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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and

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welcome to the Pet Health Cafe,
the show where your Pet has a Voice.

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This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and have a very very special

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guest on tonight. And as always, of course, we'll have the chat

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we get our messages out and you
know this is you know what we really

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want to do. So without further
ado, I want to introduce our special

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guests, Marley Robbins on curing your
fatigue. How are you doing, Morley

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doing great? Bill, great to
be here. It's been a long time

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coming. Yeah, to have this
conversation and look forward to any questions that

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your listeners might have. Yeah,
it's you know, it took us longer

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from when I when I met you
in our store to get our TV act

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together, if you will, and
get everything situated where it was supposed to

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be. And I didn't want you. It was opening, you know,

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with all that you know, the
early jitters and all the you know,

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equipment problems going on. But welcome
to have you. And I'm sure you're

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going to bring a welcome knowledge.
This hour will probably go back by so

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fast we won't even be blinking.
That seems to happen a lot. Absolutely,

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yes, it does. I want
to start out, I mean,

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would you like to tell our watchers, our audience, a little bit about

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yourself and how we ended up getting
together. Yeah, thumbnail sketch effects.

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I refer to myself as a pre
med retread, became a hospital executive and

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then consultant, did that for thirty
two years. At the end of twenty

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years of pulling a suitcase behind my
back, my shoulder developed something called frozen

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shoulder. I couldn't lift my hand
above my waist and that got me to

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a practor kicking and screaming. Who
released this joint by going inside this joint

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inside my mouth? And it was
a very painful procedure, but as she

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did the adjustment, my arm went
up. It was absolutely a miracle.

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Well, that chiropractor is now my
wife. And he challenged me with a

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phrase that she was using. She
was talking about the innate healer, the

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healer within, and I didn't say
anything to her at the time, but

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I thought to myself, if there's
an innate healer, why do we have

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millions of doctors around the world.
And so I set out on a quest

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and I've been working at every day
for almost fifteen years now, two to

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three hours a day, researching articles
trying to understand how and why our innate

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healer is not working. Book that
you just alluded to that cure your fatigue

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is just my summation of my research. That they're about thirty two thousand different

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conditions identified in the Merkmanual, and
every one of them one of them begin

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with what's called cellular energy deficiency.
And if you can't make energy, you

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can't run the immune system, you
can't run the metabolic pathways, you can't

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stand balance, and then symptoms develop, and then symptoms lead to doctor visits,

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and doctor visits lead to labels,
and labels lead to drugs. And

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that's how the system works. And
my whole paradigm is, let's strengthen the

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host and let's stop attacking the guests. And the conventional medical system is all

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about attacking toxins and pathogens and things
like that. And I said, well,

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why don't we just turn that around
and start strengthening our energy production and

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develop what's called the root Cause protocol, which is designed to overcome fatigue,

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create energy, and allow the body
to allow the innate healer to express itself.

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Is really what happens, you know. It's it's it's interesting because in

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all the years I've been doing this
on the pet side, it's always been

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about letting, you know, not
treating symptoms and you know, labeling everything,

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but rather giving the body the tools
that it needs to rebuild itself,

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because it's that's what it's designed to
do, isn't it absolutely. I mean,

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what what we didn't realize is that
over the last century they've been very

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slowly and thoughtfully taking nutrients out of
our soil, out of our food,

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and out of our body, and
the world of farming has changed, the

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world of food processing has changed,
and the world of pharmaceuticals have changed,

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and that triad has created mineral deficiencies
and nutrient deficiencies that are critical for running

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our metabolic pathways. Well, you
know, it's interesting. One of the

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alternative networks, if you will.
Last night did a special on the pharmaceutical

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company and your ties with the government
and how everything changed back in you know,

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the early nineteen hundreds and when basically
everything was you know, if you

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were sick, you basically went to
you know, a herbalist or you know,

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a neighbor that had had a home
remedy or something like that. We

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didn't have pharmaceutical drugs until John D. Rockefeller became involved. And then of

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course Carnegie jumped in with his Flexuur
report. And it's been downhill since then,

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hasn't it. Absolutely? And the
Flexner Report, you know, I

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think I was nineteen twelve was a
watershed event that decimated a lot of different

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alternative healing programs and put this focus
on what's called allopathic medicine. And what

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people don't may not realize, is
what Rockefeller was trying to do is get

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rid of coltar. He had he
had to get rid of something, and

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so he decided to use that as
a basis for these medications, which is

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just wicked when you really get down
to it. Yeah, it is.

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One of the things that came up
in is dot comentary, just like you

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said last night, is that when
the AMA was formed, and of course

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they were starting to take over all
all the medical schools and that sort of

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thing, they were getting some of
the older doctors that were doing alternative practices

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like rbalism and acupuncture and that sort
of thing enrolling in the medical schools,

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and in order to stop that,
they put in the rules about having to

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have a college degree before you could
go to medical school. Like that was

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that that was just a block these
practitioners basically from getting in at all.

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And that was that was that was
I found that, you know, to

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be something I overlooked. I don't
know how, but you know, I've

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done so much digging, but yeah, it's that the whole system has been

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really great from day one, hasn't
it? Oh? Totally. And one

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of my favorite stories about the early
AMA was a lot of people maybe familiar

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with the twelve step program, the
AA program, you know, put together

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by Bill right And actually what Bill
was originally going to do, he was

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going to treat alcoholism with vitamin B
three with niosin, and this was in

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the Chicago area and the AMA caught
wind of this and they confronted him and

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they said, you can't do that. He said, what do you mean.

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They said, well, you'll be
practicing medicine without a license, and

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so they forbid him to use niasin. And that's what drove him to create

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the twelve step program. I mean, he said, the shenanigans and the

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restrictions that that body has placed on
healing has been legendary. Yeah, I

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mean it really is. And of
course we've seen this, you know,

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I've been seeing the same things.
And because I was on the animal side

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all the time, and the veterinary
you know industry ifuel, I don't even

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call it a profession anymore, because
it isn't just an industry, isn't it

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totally? Oh, I mean,
it's a business. It's a cartel.

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They have quite a they have quite
a profit nor. Yeah, And of

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course everything's tied in with government.
You know, the FDA is you know,

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funded by big pharma. Big chemical
and big food and you know,

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every everything they want all the foods
process so they can use very poor,

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poor quality foods, make them taste
good, load us up with more chemicals,

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which then the doctors have to then
diagnose and then cover up the symptoms

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because they're not treating anything, are
they Well, they will tell you that

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they're treating the symptoms. I think
what they're beginning to realize is they're not

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solving the problem. And what a
major event that took place in nineteen forty

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one that a lot of people don't
know about. And this was in the

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threat of the Second World War.
It hadn't you know, hadn't hit the

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US as much as it hit Europe, obviously in England. But in nineteen

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forty one, the US, in
England and Canada started adding iron filings to

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the wheat flower. We're not talking
about organic iron. We're talking about iron

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filings that you would scrape off a
piece of metal, piece of steel,

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and that had a devastating effect on
our physiology. What happened about ten years

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after that, they started noticing that
cholesterol was rising. What happens when you

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start adding iron filings, that's an
immediate threat to our body. But it

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also it has a dampening effect on
copper metabolism. And what people don't realize

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is that copper is the general an
iron is the foot soldier. But you

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know, there's big difference between generals
and foot soldiers. Generals have a lot

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of brass on their shoulder, right, what's brass made out of copper?

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Eighty eight percent copper. And so
for those who you know, remember or

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knew about the Second World War,
you knew about the Battle of the Bulge.

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To understand the difference between generals and
foot soldiers, try to picture of

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the Battle of the Bulge without patent. It's a very different story. And

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so generals have a lot of sway, not just in the theater of war,

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but inside our body. And when
you start adding iron filings and start

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fortifying food with iron beyond the filings, do you realize there's nine different forms

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of iron being added to our food. And that's a rather stunning realization.

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And how many of those nine different
forms cause cancer? All nine of them.

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And so the iron starts to dampen
down the copper. So then iron

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starts to have a bigger and bigger
impact in our body. Well, what

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does iron like to do? It
likes to play with oxygen, and outside

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of our body we call it rust. Yes, well, inside of our

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body it's rust, but it looks
like plaque. And so that what happened

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was iron was rising, cholesterol was
rising. And what they told us,

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what they trained us to believe,
is that the cholesterol was causing the heart

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disease. No, that's not what
was happening. The cholesterol was rising because

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copper was falling. Iron was rising, and the cholesterol is an oxygen sink.

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It takes eleven molecules of oxygen eleven
molecules to make one molecule of cholesterol.

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So the body uses cholesterol as a
way to mop up excess oxygen.

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But then what happened. The cholesterol
gets rusty. It's called lipid peroxidation.

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And the people are very familiar with
the good cholesterol and the bad cholesterol.

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LDL is the bad one, HDL
is a good one. But what they

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never told you was there's an enzyme
to turn bad cholesterol into good cholesterol,

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and it requires copper, ding,
ding ding. And what they didn't tell

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you is that the LDL was being
exposed to iron was getting rusty and that's

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what was building up in the plaque, that's what was building up in the

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arteries, and they got us to
believe that cholesterol was the problem one.

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In fact, it was iron a
along and we've been held hostage now for

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over seventy years around that one incomplete
story being told by cardiologists. It's interesting

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because going back to the nineteen nineties
when I really got involved in mourning in

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this heavy nutrition part of the industry. Yeah, there was a adopted actually

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was a veterinarian that turned and then
when he got his MD and started working

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with basically earth minerals in the natural
forms that we were finding. And of

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course during that, you know,
coming up to that point, of course,

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women were told in the fifties and
the sixties, you know, because

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because there are women they need more
iron and you know, just because of

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their cycling and things of that nature. And he, of course he was

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looking at the supplement field nutraceuticals,
which is actually just a branch of the

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pharmaceutical companies, and he said,
actually, you would probably be better off

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going out and licking the railroad tracks
than taking these supplements. And that's that

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stuck with me since the mid nineties. It's like, you know, looking

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at supplements and the recommendation that obviously
it's coming from the from the allopathic model.

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The challenge, or the real struggle, is that the physicians that people

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are so accustomed to going to have
an MD degree, what they don't realize

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what that stands for, stands for
a mineral denialist. And they don't realize

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that their diploma is actually printed on
Swiss cheese because there's glaring holes in what

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they don't know about how the audy
works. And I tease doctors about this

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all the time. And in the
beginning when I got into this work around

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twenty ten, I really thought there
was this active campaign that the doctors were

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all kind of conspiring. They're not. I had a very dear friend,

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Ben Edwards down in Lubbock, Texas. He said, wait a minute,

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hold on, cowboy. He said, I just didn't learn this. I

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didn't know that these whole minerals were
so important. And he said, you

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know, you can blame my teachers, but don't blame me. And what

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Ben got me to understand is that
their education is incomplete. And I think

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it's a very fair assessment. But
what people need to realize is just how

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incomplete their education is, and they
are sharing what they learned, and the

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mistake, as I tease them,
the mistake that they make is that they

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have confused their training with the truth
and they're not the same thing. And

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so I think people need to be
more willing to ask better questions. They've

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got to be more willing to demand
better answers, because we have been misled

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and misfed along with the pets,
the humans that the pet caretakers have been

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grossly misled about what we are eating, what these conditions are, why they

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appear. And all I'm trying to
do is pull the curtain back and reveal

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what's really going on. Of course, I spell curtain with a hyphen between

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the U and the art so you
can see the symbol for copper again.

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And I appreciate you going up the
title of the books that people know what

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I'm talking about. But it's just
the part that I find fascinating, Bill,

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is that you'll see this poster behind
me, and it's actually a poster

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about Egyptian art. It's a beautiful
picture and which you'll see at the very

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top. I have it there.
Copper is right there. It's at the

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very top of the mineral pyramid,
and the part that people can't really see

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is around the perimeter of the triangle
are unks, the religious symbol and the

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Egyptian culture. They're not made of
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seems like the doctors, at least
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nutritional education, don't really get physiology
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the body works, how can you
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The show where your Pet has a
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my special Gus Morley Runns and oh
we got to comment. It just popped

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up before wanted to break. It's
amazing that the people that would that we

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look up to, that we tell
you know, we're supposed to look to

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the experts, and yet they're not
taught the basics that how the body really

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works and the you know, what
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itself. Like I said in the
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my approach have always been give it
the tools so it can fix itself.

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And yet how can I be missing
in his whole education? You know it's

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I grew up in a Christian household. It's a piscopalion. The advantage of

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being episcopal is you have all the
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all the guilt. But they I
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I've read the Bible. I just
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until I started doing this work and
when I got into the real guts of

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the research. And again you've got
to picture three hundred and sixty five days

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a year, two to three hours
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a lot of articles. Yes,
I mean tens of thousands of articles,

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and I was going to I was
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you know, I mean, I
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the stuff that you put in your
book. You know, if you're not

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versed in this stuff, it is
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Well it can be. Thank you
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Well, no, there's it's like
a late in life epiphany. I just

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I suddenly woke up again. When
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this locked shoulder, I woke up. I was a different person. That

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There's no other way to describe it. And so I'm doing my life's work.

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I'm honored to do my life's work. And and but the real my

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purpose, Bill is to help people
get on the other side of their ailments

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so they can get on with their
purpose in life. Because we were not

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throwing this planet to deal with cancer
and diabetes and heart disease and all the

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afflictions that are so prevalent. And
it's just I'm very passionate about it.

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I'm very excited to wake up every
morning and find some new factory that I

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didn't know. Like yesterday, I
woke up and discovered that when a woman

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is pregnant and is planning to breastfeed
their child, she has a ten to

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twentyfold increase in uptake of copper to
support that process. Now, you,

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having been around animals, maybe you
knew that intuitively, and maybe you're more

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conversant with the mental requirements of animals. But it's like on the human side,

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no one talks about minerals. It's
a great void in our understanding.

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And like you said just a minute
ago, they didn't teach us how to

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take care of ourselves. And it's
really basic things that we can do.

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And that's really what the book gets
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is just lays out a protocol of
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start doing this, And it's very
simple things, but some of them are

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counterintuitive and some of them are counter
cultural. Like when I tell people to

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stop taking isolated vitamin D. They
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vitamin D from cod live oil that
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okay, and then they're fine.
But this idea that we've been told

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to take things that maybe not or
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be somewhat unsettling for people. Well. One of the things that with supplements

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too, that people don't realize is
and when you got these individual supplements,

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they had to be extracted from something
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the body just doesn't know how to
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You know, we should be looking
for the whole food sources for whatever vitamins,

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minerals and nutrients that we need,
shouldn't we Well? Absolutely. The

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challenge we've got though, is that
how many, how you may be unique,

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but how many regenerative farmers do you
know? Personally? Very fun?

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know, the foods and the grass
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you know we do all the raw
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It was, it was, it
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you. But it's it's tough,
I mean to find those because because so

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much stuff is just being pushed every
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there's food shortages all over the place. And that's not not only on

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the human sid but that's on a
lifestyle outside as well. Oh and of

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course, you know, the livestock
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poor food, mineral deficient food,
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and the meat are all going to
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vegetables that they're eating. Absolutely true. Yeah, and again, if you

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didn't grow up on a farm,
and I didn't. I grew up just

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outside of Baltimore, and my nickname
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the awareness and doctors. My wife
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farm. Well, she knew what
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a very faithful day at the beginning
of our relationship when she asked me,

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he says, have you ever had
real milk? I said what she said,

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you know, I'm pastor. I
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kill you. Well, you know
what happened. We went to a farmer's

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market. We got unprocessed. She
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developed Parkinson's disease because I knew it
was going to kill me when I drink

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it. Yeah, I just absolutely
live for it. But I know,

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if you didn't, if you didn't
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know about it. Out of side, out of mind. It's it's you

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know, the whole the whole thing
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you know, there's a lot of
other areas that we can explore that enter

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into it, you know, everything
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I took a look at at just
one ingredient in pet foods, in our

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diet, corn and how much all
gmo, which bastually is designed to make

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it, make it, make it
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and then it's spread with glyphosate to
kill it off the harvest, and in

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between you have all these other chemical
treatments, and then we feed it to

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our animals and wonder why we can't
digest our food. Right. So there's

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a wonderful documentary it's called King Corn
ki ng CR Wonderful Doctor. For those

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who haven't seen it, you'll be
absolutely entertained and educated by what Bill just

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said. And I think the part
that people need to understand about glyphosate roundup

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is it's a it's a cop it's
a mineral key lator. It's a perfect

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it's a perfect key lator of copper. And why do I say that,

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Well, it can kilate copper down
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nothing stops it. And the mineral
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logarithmic scale, like you know earthquakes. So magnesium comes out at a three,

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zinc at a nine, and copper
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that mean. It means that it
pulls copper out of the soil a billion

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times faster than it pulls out magne
easy, and a thousand times faster,

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pulls copper a thousand times faster out
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Those numbers are hard to relate to, don't We don't know what a

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thousand times faster is. There was
a time when I could run an eight

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minute mile, and my son at
that time was in college and he ran

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a four to oh two, so
he was twice as fast as his old

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man. And his old man went
to a gym to see what that felt

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like. Almost killed myself. But
the thing is a thousand times faster is

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a game changing chemical event. And
so the coppers being removed from soils all

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over the planet, and then they
add things like a high fruitos diet,

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high fruit toose corn syrup. It
blocks copper uptake in ourselves. Copper's not

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allowed in. And then we work
with medications, particularly antibiotics. People don't

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understand what antibiotic means, anti life
and what is doing? How does it

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kill that bacteria? It relates the
copper out so it can't function. And

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the fourth generation antibiotics are very toxic
to our health. And as you were

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alluding to, we can't digest food
when we don't have copper. And it's

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and people say, well, it
can't just be one mineral, No,

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there are many minerals affected. But
it's the it's the top of the pyramid.

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You've got to be really mindful because
why is copper so special Because it

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regulates iron and oxygen at the same
time, and those are two elements that

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like to come together to create rust, and so copper has a very special

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role in our in our physiology.
Now, when the copper came out of

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our our soil as well. It's
also coming it's no longer available even in

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our water supply. That's right,
and you know in living water, because

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most of our water is dead to
day, and I do was a comment

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in the chat earlier in the shell
from a plumber. You know, when

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we go back fifty seventy five years
ago, at least you know we were

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when we were building new houses,
you know, baby boomers, that's wort

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of thing. We had copper pipes, so at least we were getting some

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copper ions back in our water,
weren't we Yes, yes, we were,

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and we didn't have the level of
iron that we have today. People,

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Right, people don't realize within our
lifetime, Bill, I'll be seventy

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one in about three weeks. But
within our lifetime, the changes in our

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mineral composition in our body have been
devastating. Yes, And if you don't

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know about minerals, if you don't
know that they're the spark plugs, if

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you don't know that they're critical for
enzyme function, if you don't know that

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that's what the metabolic pathways run on, well then you just kind of move

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move right along. But when you
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and you're there's a wow factor to
how important these minerals really are. And

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it's just it isn't part of our
awareness. You know, it's so true

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because it's you know, the body
is a whole system. And actually we're

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going to expand on that too.
The whole universe is a system. It

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all works together. You know that. You originally back in the in the

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sixties that was fortunate enough to take
one of the first true ecology courses,

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and it taught none about cleaning up
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the how the planet actually works,
you know, the relationship between plants and

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animals and all of that. And
you know, with that understand that's probably

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one of the main things that gave
me more of an understanding at that early

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age that you can't isolate one thing, and you know, and that's basically

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what we're doing with disease and that
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We're getting another break. We'll take
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Uh Morley, And it's this whole
copper thing. I mean, it

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goes into so many different areas of
our life, and especially you know,

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you and I being older, like
I said, the copper pipes that we

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have coming into the houses, and
you know, the actually living water back

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then even you know, and you
know, without all the fluorides and everything

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else. And of course the other
thing is without the EMF. So this

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is a question that I wrote down
and I usually do most of my shows

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just you know, let them flow
fairly well, which I told you about.

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But my question is really because I'm
seeing so much of it. Copper

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is also used to transmit electricity,
and you know, it's basically the primary,

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isn't it. Well, I get
fat five ber optics mayble, we're

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taking some of that. But with
all these EMFs and everything else, how

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does that affect the copper in our
body? That's a wonderful question. What

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I like to do with with folks
is telling ask a simple question. What's

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the metal that makes the tall building
stand still? And its steel to iron,

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and what's the metal that allows the
tall building to move? And it's

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copper because the utilities run on copper, the water historically I mean plastic now

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that historically copper pipes, and then
electricity as you're bringing up, and what

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you may be fascinated to learn is
that when the telegraph first came out,

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it it was like in the eighteen
fifties, they were using iron wire.

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They didn't use copper right away,
and then someone realized that copper was three

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times faster to transmit pulses, and
that's when they went over to copper.

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So we what's what's fascinating is forty
five percent of our tissue inside this bag

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here, forty five percent of tissue
is connective tissue, you know, the

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fascion and all the all the connective
tissues, the blood vessels and all the

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all those different tissues are all made
by one enzyme. And that enzyme is

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called lyceeal oxidase. And what does
it do. It knits collagen which is

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strength collagen with elastin, which is
flexible, knits them together to give our

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tissue integrity, strength and flexibility.
And so we have this copper grid up,

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you know, from stem to stern. And when people have really reactive

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responses to being around EMFs, I
know they are copper deficient and they are

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iron toxic because their body has all
that iron and it becomes an antenna for

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the EMFs. And as soon as
they start to engage in the protocol and

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begin to do blood donations to lower
their iron footprint, they start to feel

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a lot better. And so EMFs
is a very serious issue, as you

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well know, it's become increasingly sensitive
and in the last four years because there

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are a lot of changes made in
our body over that time period. And

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I don't know whether we want to
get into all of that, but the

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point is that experience changed our mineral
status, and I think it's important for

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people to realize that that can be
corrected. But it did have a significant

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effect on the balance between copper and
iron in our body. Yeah, I

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mean, this is a short segment, and of course this hour is going

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by so fast. Another part of
the issue, of course, with the

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the you know, the the MF
effect, is the aluminum nanoparticles that have

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been being dumped on us since the
nineteen forties. Aluminium is another transmitter of

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electricity and not nearly the difficient is
copper obviously, and they've had a lot

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of problems with it, with basically
burning down houses and buildings I found,

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and that's why I knew some of
that. Absolutely, that's very true.

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And I was just I was reading
a fascinating article today by Christopher Oh my

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goodness, he's known as mister Aluminum. I'm embarrassed. I can't think of

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his last name because the need.
But he wrote an article back in twenty

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thirteen where he basically exonerated copper.
A lot of people think that copper causes

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Alzheimer's. It doesn't. Well,
copper's absolutely essential to prevent Alzheimer's. But

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his point that he makes in this
article that appeared in Nature Journal, which

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is a very prestigious journal, is
that in the presence of aluminum, then

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copper isn't as effective as it should
be. And he's always put the blame

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on aluminum as being the real contributing
agent for causing a lot of the neuro

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deve generation, the autism, and
so forth. Again, it's a debatable

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point, but what's important is he
recognized that copper as a critical it's called

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a redox active metal means it's doing
both reduction and oxidation, which means using

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and gaining electrons. Only copper and
iron do that, and copper plays nice.

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I am not so much. And
he recognized the value of copper in

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our neurochemistry. Well, you know, one of the things that I know

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that I you know, mentioned it
to you when you came by my store

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is and and this kind of explains
it a little bit. There is this

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is why people are both because of
the dual nature of copper, why we

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can be copper toxic and copper deficient
at the same time, depending on what

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form it's in. And the other
thing with the aluminum is we know that

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aluminum actually blocks the absorption of calcium, and that ties into the whole magnesiam

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manganese, phosphorus and you know process
again, because we're dealing with a system,

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We're not dealing with a component exactly. Let me just let me just

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clarify your point about the copper being
available and not available. A lot of

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confusion around that. And back in
the turn of the century, back in

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the nineteen hundreds up until about the
nineteen forties, all the great scientists were

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studying two metals, copper and iron. They were obsessed with them because they

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were trying to understand how energy was
made. People like Otto Warburg, Conrad

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LVM, doctor Sachs, and huge
names that people may not recognize, but

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these were very important scientists who were
trying to figure out how does the human

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body really work. It wasn't until
the sixties that the word zinc appeared in

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science and it was Carl Pfeiffer who
got his PhD before he got his MD,

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and he became a psychiatrist. That's
significant. He was actually a principle

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in the mk Ultra program. That's
even more significant. And he's the guy

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who in the sixties late sixties wrote
an article about unbound copper. And in

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the article, what he specifically said
is that there are under certain conditions,

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copper can become unbound from its protein
so rulo plasma. People have never heard

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of that protein. It's incredibly important
and it has one thousand and sixty six

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amino acids. Insulin has about thirty
five but very very important protein, and

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it has eight coppers inside it.
It's a beast and no one's heard of

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00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.119
it. And your doctor probably hasn't
heard of it either. That's a scary

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00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:55.280
moment. But what happens under certain
conditions that protein can break down and release

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00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:02.400
the copper, and so doctor Pfeiffer
left this impression that the copper suddenly became

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00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:09.519
toxic. It doesn't. It gets
bound by albumen, it gets bound by

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00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:15.039
histadine, it gets bound by trans
couprine, which is a transport protein for

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00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:22.639
copper, and it's not as effective
in those attachments as it is with ceruloplasma.

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But he left an indelible mark on
people's mind that copper can be reactive.

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And then there are scientists, most
notably Svetlana Lutsenko at Johns Hopkins Medical

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00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:42.559
Center in Baltimore, who have studied
the amount of unbound copper inside the cell.

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00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.400
She really wanted to know. She's
originally from Russia. She wanted to

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know how much of this unbound copper
is so reactive. And there's something called

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zepto molar zepto molar m o la
R and you put a zero point twenty

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00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.800
one zeros and then a one,
and that's how much unbound copper there is

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in the cell. It's basically virtually
not present. And the part that people

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have never been told, and I'm
happy to share it with your audience,

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is that this so called unbound is
actually regulated by the ceruloplasman protein. It's

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a very smart protein. It knows
that it needs to bring things back into

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regulation. And the part that people
might find a little unsettling is to find

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00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:46.239
out that excess sugar will blow up
ceruloplasma. Oh yeah, they've been adding

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00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:53.039
sugar for a long time, and
a scorbic acid that's not our friend.

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Whole through vitamin C is very different
than a scorbic acid, and so a

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scorbic acid. Back in nineteen forty
eight, when the two Swedish scientists were

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unveiling their research about this protein,
said oh, by the way, stay

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away from a scorbic acid. It'll
blow up this protein. That was a

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00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:17.599
long time ago, Bill sure,
nineteen forty eight, and we've been pounding

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the ascorbic acid as a society ever
since. We're actually at the end of

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the day, coming up to the
end of the show. Already, believe

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it or not, I knew that
this is what happened. And one of

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the first things I want to do
is obviously invite you back, because you've

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got a lot more to share with
you. But in the last minute or

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00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.679
so here, how can people reach
you and how can besides I mean,

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00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:44.920
obviously you need to come to my
Palaeo pet or go on to our website

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00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.199
order your book, or onto your
website and order the book. But how

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00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:53.760
else can I they tap into your
expertise. Absolutely, go to my website

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RCP for Root Cause Protocol RCP one
two three. For those who are into

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00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:07.239
social media, there's a Facebook group
called the Magnesium Advocacy Group. There's a

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00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:16.800
there's also a Facebook page, and
there's an RCP community. And for those

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00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.320
people who really want to delve into
it, I'm happy to respond to email.

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It's my first and last name.
You can see it there on the

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00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:29.559
screen, Morley Robbins at Gmail.
And for the precious few that really want

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to reach out and chat, my
phone number is eight four to seven nine

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to two eight zero sixty one.
Well, I should point out to people,

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for those who are real gear heads
that really want to learn more about

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00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:47.159
this, we actually have an RCP
institute and we are just now enrolling students

533
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for the next class that starts in
February, and people absolutely love that class

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at sixteen weeks long, and you
might want to consider that the Root Cause

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00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.960
Protocol Institute. So just another of
learning more. Again, Molly, I

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00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.000
thank you. You don't know how
much is help. It makes me feel

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I mean to have you want to
show your expertise. You know, we

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all have our niches and that sort
of thing. But again I want to

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00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.639
invite you back, you know,
and you know, and you know,

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00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.119
maybe we can set up some sort
of ongoing type thing because you've got so

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00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.760
much more. You've got so much
more to share. So great. With

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that being said, goodnight, folks, thank you for watching. Let's share

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this like this and subscribe so we
can get all this information out to everybody

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out there in the world. Actually, thanks again, Morley, Thanks so

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