C(U)re Your & Your Pets Fatigue The Role of Copper

0:00 Any health related information on the following show provides general information only. Content presented on any show by any host or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice. Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise, or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet has a Voice.

0:46 This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and have a very very special guest on tonight. And as always, of course, we'll have the chat open so that if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to enter them in. Also make sure that you like and share and subscribe because the messages that we put out here are just things you will not find on the normal news information circuits and things of that nature. So it's important that we get our messages out and you know this is you know what we really want to do. So without further ado, I want to introduce our special guests, Marley Robbins on curing your fatigue. How are you doing, Morley doing great? Bill, great to be here. It's been a long time coming. Yeah, to have this conversation and look forward to any questions that your listeners might have. Yeah, it's you know, it took us longer from when I when I met you in our store to get our TV act together, if you will, and get everything situated where it was supposed to be. And I didn't want you. It was opening, you know, with all that you know, the early jitters and all the you know, equipment problems going on. But welcome to have you. And I'm sure you're going to bring a welcome knowledge. This hour will probably go back by so fast we won't even be blinking. That seems to happen a lot. Absolutely,

2:22 yes, it does. I want to start out, I mean, would you like to tell our watchers, our audience, a little bit about yourself and how we ended up getting together. Yeah, thumbnail sketch effects. I refer to myself as a pre med retread, became a hospital executive and then consultant, did that for thirty two years. At the end of twenty years of pulling a suitcase behind my back, my shoulder developed something called frozen shoulder. I couldn't lift my hand above my waist and that got me to a practor kicking and screaming. Who released this joint by going inside this joint inside my mouth? And it was a very painful procedure, but as she did the adjustment, my arm went up. It was absolutely a miracle.

3:16 Well, that chiropractor is now my wife. And he challenged me with a phrase that she was using. She was talking about the innate healer, the healer within, and I didn't say anything to her at the time, but I thought to myself, if there's an innate healer, why do we have millions of doctors around the world. And so I set out on a quest and I've been working at every day for almost fifteen years now, two to three hours a day, researching articles trying to understand how and why our innate healer is not working. Book that you just alluded to that cure your fatigue is just my summation of my research. That they're about thirty two thousand different conditions identified in the Merkmanual, and every one of them one of them begin with what's called cellular energy deficiency. And if you can't make energy, you can't run the immune system, you can't run the metabolic pathways, you can't stand balance, and then symptoms develop, and then symptoms lead to doctor visits, and doctor visits lead to labels, and labels lead to drugs. And that's how the system works. And my whole paradigm is, let's strengthen the

4:51 host and let's stop attacking the guests. And the conventional medical system is all about attacking toxins and pathogens and things like that. And I said, well, why don't we just turn that around and start strengthening our energy production and develop what's called the root Cause protocol, which is designed to overcome fatigue, create energy, and allow the body to allow the innate healer to express itself. Is really what happens, you know. It's it's it's interesting because in all the years I've been doing this on the pet side, it's always been about letting, you know, not treating symptoms and you know, labeling everything, but rather giving the body the tools that it needs to rebuild itself, because it's that's what it's designed to do, isn't it absolutely. I mean, what what we didn't realize is that over the last century they've been very slowly and thoughtfully taking nutrients out of our soil, out of our food, and out of our body, and the world of farming has changed, the world of food processing has changed, and the world of pharmaceuticals have changed, and that triad has created mineral deficiencies and nutrient deficiencies that are critical for running

6:25 our metabolic pathways. Well, you know, it's interesting. One of the alternative networks, if you will. Last night did a special on the pharmaceutical company and your ties with the government and how everything changed back in you know, the early nineteen hundreds and when basically everything was you know, if you were sick, you basically went to you know, a herbalist or you know, a neighbor that had had a home remedy or something like that. We didn't have pharmaceutical drugs until John D. Rockefeller became involved. And then of course Carnegie jumped in with his Flexuur report. And it's been downhill since then, hasn't it. Absolutely? And the Flexner Report, you know, I think I was nineteen twelve was a watershed event that decimated a lot of different alternative healing programs and put this focus on what's called allopathic medicine. And what people don't may not realize, is what Rockefeller was trying to do is get rid of coltar. He had he had to get rid of something, and so he decided to use that as a basis for these medications, which is just wicked when you really get down to it. Yeah, it is.

7:58 One of the things that came up in is dot comentary, just like you said last night, is that when the AMA was formed, and of course they were starting to take over all all the medical schools and that sort of thing, they were getting some of the older doctors that were doing alternative practices like rbalism and acupuncture and that sort of thing enrolling in the medical schools, and in order to stop that, they put in the rules about having to have a college degree before you could go to medical school. Like that was that that was just a block these practitioners basically from getting in at all.

8:41 And that was that was that was I found that, you know, to be something I overlooked. I don't know how, but you know, I've done so much digging, but yeah, it's that the whole system has been really great from day one, hasn't it? Oh? Totally. And one of my favorite stories about the early AMA was a lot of people maybe familiar with the twelve step program, the AA program, you know, put together by Bill right And actually what Bill was originally going to do, he was going to treat alcoholism with vitamin B three with niosin, and this was in the Chicago area and the AMA caught wind of this and they confronted him and they said, you can't do that. He said, what do you mean.

9:31 They said, well, you'll be practicing medicine without a license, and so they forbid him to use niasin. And that's what drove him to create the twelve step program. I mean, he said, the shenanigans and the restrictions that that body has placed on healing has been legendary. Yeah, I mean it really is. And of course we've seen this, you know, I've been seeing the same things. And because I was on the animal side all the time, and the veterinary you know industry ifuel, I don't even call it a profession anymore, because it isn't just an industry, isn't it totally? Oh, I mean, it's a business. It's a cartel.

10:22 They have quite a they have quite a profit nor. Yeah, And of course everything's tied in with government. You know, the FDA is you know, funded by big pharma. Big chemical and big food and you know, every everything they want all the foods process so they can use very poor, poor quality foods, make them taste good, load us up with more chemicals, which then the doctors have to then diagnose and then cover up the symptoms because they're not treating anything, are they Well, they will tell you that they're treating the symptoms. I think what they're beginning to realize is they're not solving the problem. And what a major event that took place in nineteen forty one that a lot of people don't know about. And this was in the threat of the Second World War. It hadn't you know, hadn't hit the US as much as it hit Europe, obviously in England. But in nineteen forty one, the US, in England and Canada started adding iron filings to the wheat flower. We're not talking about organic iron. We're talking about iron filings that you would scrape off a piece of metal, piece of steel,

11:52 and that had a devastating effect on our physiology. What happened about ten years after that, they started noticing that cholesterol was rising. What happens when you start adding iron filings, that's an immediate threat to our body. But it also it has a dampening effect on copper metabolism. And what people don't realize is that copper is the general an iron is the foot soldier. But you know, there's big difference between generals and foot soldiers. Generals have a lot of brass on their shoulder, right, what's brass made out of copper?

12:41 Eighty eight percent copper. And so for those who you know, remember or knew about the Second World War, you knew about the Battle of the Bulge. To understand the difference between generals and foot soldiers, try to picture of the Battle of the Bulge without patent. It's a very different story. And so generals have a lot of sway, not just in the theater of war, but inside our body. And when you start adding iron filings and start fortifying food with iron beyond the filings, do you realize there's nine different forms of iron being added to our food. And that's a rather stunning realization.

13:31 And how many of those nine different forms cause cancer? All nine of them. And so the iron starts to dampen down the copper. So then iron starts to have a bigger and bigger impact in our body. Well, what does iron like to do? It likes to play with oxygen, and outside of our body we call it rust. Yes, well, inside of our body it's rust, but it looks like plaque. And so that what happened was iron was rising, cholesterol was rising. And what they told us, what they trained us to believe, is that the cholesterol was causing the heart disease. No, that's not what was happening. The cholesterol was rising because copper was falling. Iron was rising, and the cholesterol is an oxygen sink.

14:31 It takes eleven molecules of oxygen eleven molecules to make one molecule of cholesterol. So the body uses cholesterol as a way to mop up excess oxygen. But then what happened. The cholesterol gets rusty. It's called lipid peroxidation. And the people are very familiar with the good cholesterol and the bad cholesterol. LDL is the bad one, HDL is a good one. But what they never told you was there's an enzyme to turn bad cholesterol into good cholesterol, and it requires copper, ding, ding ding. And what they didn't tell you is that the LDL was being exposed to iron was getting rusty and that's what was building up in the plaque, that's what was building up in the arteries, and they got us to believe that cholesterol was the problem one.

15:31 In fact, it was iron a along and we've been held hostage now for over seventy years around that one incomplete story being told by cardiologists. It's interesting because going back to the nineteen nineties when I really got involved in mourning in this heavy nutrition part of the industry. Yeah, there was a adopted actually was a veterinarian that turned and then when he got his MD and started working with basically earth minerals in the natural forms that we were finding. And of course during that, you know, coming up to that point, of course, women were told in the fifties and the sixties, you know, because because there are women they need more iron and you know, just because of their cycling and things of that nature. And he, of course he was looking at the supplement field nutraceuticals, which is actually just a branch of the pharmaceutical companies, and he said, actually, you would probably be better off going out and licking the railroad tracks than taking these supplements. And that's that stuck with me since the mid nineties. It's like, you know, looking at supplements and the recommendation that obviously it's coming from the from the allopathic model.

17:00 The challenge, or the real struggle, is that the physicians that people are so accustomed to going to have an MD degree, what they don't realize what that stands for, stands for a mineral denialist. And they don't realize that their diploma is actually printed on Swiss cheese because there's glaring holes in what they don't know about how the audy works. And I tease doctors about this all the time. And in the beginning when I got into this work around twenty ten, I really thought there was this active campaign that the doctors were all kind of conspiring. They're not. I had a very dear friend, Ben Edwards down in Lubbock, Texas. He said, wait a minute, hold on, cowboy. He said, I just didn't learn this. I didn't know that these whole minerals were so important. And he said, you know, you can blame my teachers, but don't blame me. And what Ben got me to understand is that their education is incomplete. And I think it's a very fair assessment. But what people need to realize is just how incomplete their education is, and they are sharing what they learned, and the mistake, as I tease them, the mistake that they make is that they have confused their training with the truth and they're not the same thing. And

18:36 so I think people need to be more willing to ask better questions. They've got to be more willing to demand better answers, because we have been misled and misfed along with the pets, the humans that the pet caretakers have been grossly misled about what we are eating, what these conditions are, why they appear. And all I'm trying to do is pull the curtain back and reveal what's really going on. Of course, I spell curtain with a hyphen between the U and the art so you can see the symbol for copper again. And I appreciate you going up the title of the books that people know what I'm talking about. But it's just the part that I find fascinating, Bill, is that you'll see this poster behind me, and it's actually a poster about Egyptian art. It's a beautiful picture and which you'll see at the very top. I have it there. Copper is right there. It's at the very top of the mineral pyramid, and the part that people can't really see is around the perimeter of the triangle are unks, the religious symbol and the Egyptian culture. They're not made of gold, they're made of copper. Yeah,

20:07 we're against the break here right now. And when we come back, I want to talk a little bit more about the education thing, because it seems like the doctors, at least on the veterinary side, never get any nutritional education, don't really get physiology anymore. And if you don't know how the body works, how can you fix it? We'll be right back. Does your pets suffer from allergies, cancer, digestive issues, or joint and skin problems? These can be from poor nutrition, and my Paleo Pet can help. Don't let your pets suffer for poor diet and nutrition. At my Paleo Pet we provide cross human brain USDA approved biocomplete row food entrees for dogs and cats. Whether you're looking for healthy food for dogs or natural herbs for cats, you with exactly what they need to live a happy and healthy life.

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22:49 The show where your Pet has a Voices is Build a Pet Health gurule of my special Gus Morley Runns and oh we got to comment. It just popped up before wanted to break. It's amazing that the people that would that we look up to, that we tell you know, we're supposed to look to the experts, and yet they're not taught the basics that how the body really works and the you know, what it needs to fuel it and to fix itself. Like I said in the beginning of the show, you know, my approach have always been give it the tools so it can fix itself. And yet how can I be missing in his whole education? You know it's I grew up in a Christian household. It's a piscopalion. The advantage of being episcopal is you have all the pomp and circumstances of the Catholic Church without all the guilt. But they I didn't believe in evil. I mean, I've read the Bible. I just didn't believe that that evil existed per se until I started doing this work and when I got into the real guts of the research. And again you've got to picture three hundred and sixty five days a year, two to three hours a day in fifteen years. I've read a lot of articles. Yes, I mean tens of thousands of articles,

24:21 and I was going to I was going to comment on it. I mean, you know, I mean, I you know, even just some of the stuff that you put in your book. You know, if you're not versed in this stuff, it is really a hard read, isn't it. Well it can be. Thank you for doing that, by the way, Well, no, there's it's like a late in life epiphany. I just I suddenly woke up again. When when doctor Liz did that procedure and released this locked shoulder, I woke up. I was a different person. That There's no other way to describe it. And so I'm doing my life's work. I'm honored to do my life's work. And and but the real my purpose, Bill is to help people get on the other side of their ailments so they can get on with their purpose in life. Because we were not throwing this planet to deal with cancer and diabetes and heart disease and all the afflictions that are so prevalent. And it's just I'm very passionate about it.

25:21 I'm very excited to wake up every morning and find some new factory that I didn't know. Like yesterday, I woke up and discovered that when a woman is pregnant and is planning to breastfeed their child, she has a ten to twentyfold increase in uptake of copper to support that process. Now, you, having been around animals, maybe you knew that intuitively, and maybe you're more conversant with the mental requirements of animals. But it's like on the human side, no one talks about minerals. It's a great void in our understanding.

26:02 And like you said just a minute ago, they didn't teach us how to take care of ourselves. And it's really basic things that we can do. And that's really what the book gets into. The second half of the book is just lays out a protocol of stops and starts. Stop doing this, start doing this, And it's very simple things, but some of them are counterintuitive and some of them are counter cultural. Like when I tell people to stop taking isolated vitamin D. They freak out. I said, get your vitamin D from cod live oil that has rets and all they go, oh, okay, and then they're fine. But this idea that we've been told to take things that maybe not or not in our best interest, that can be somewhat unsettling for people. Well. One of the things that with supplements too, that people don't realize is and when you got these individual supplements, they had to be extracted from something else or made in the lab, and the body just doesn't know how to uptake and handle them a proper way.

27:08 You know, we should be looking for the whole food sources for whatever vitamins, minerals and nutrients that we need, shouldn't we Well? Absolutely. The challenge we've got though, is that how many, how you may be unique, but how many regenerative farmers do you know? Personally? Very fun? You know, I know a few, because of course I'm dealing in you know, the foods and the grass fed here down here in Florida, and you know we do all the raw dairy and that you had in your store. It was, it was, it was an oasis, an absolute thank you. But it's it's tough, I mean to find those because because so much stuff is just being pushed every single day. I mean, there's food, there's food shortages all over the place. And that's not not only on the human sid but that's on a lifestyle outside as well. Oh and of course, you know, the livestock that we're raising, if it's raised on poor food, mineral deficient food, those foods are the eggs and the milk and the meat are all going to be deficient as well, along with the vegetables that they're eating. Absolutely true. Yeah, and again, if you didn't grow up on a farm, and I didn't. I grew up just outside of Baltimore, and my nickname is Baltimore Lee. But you don't have the awareness and doctors. My wife grew up on an eight hundred acre dairy farm. Well, she knew what farming was all about. And it was

28:40 a very faithful day at the beginning of our relationship when she asked me, he says, have you ever had real milk? I said what she said, you know, I'm pastor. I said, no, that stuff will kill you. Well, you know what happened. We went to a farmer's market. We got unprocessed. She pours it into a glass and Bill I developed Parkinson's disease because I knew it was going to kill me when I drink it. Yeah, I just absolutely live for it. But I know, if you didn't, if you didn't grow up with that awareness, you don't know about it. Out of side, out of mind. It's it's you know, the whole the whole thing is is so complex. And of course you know, there's a lot of other areas that we can explore that enter into it, you know, everything from ems to you know, I mean I took a look at at just one ingredient in pet foods, in our diet, corn and how much all gmo, which bastually is designed to make it, make it, make it insect the site in the plant itself, and then it's spread with glyphosate to kill it off the harvest, and in between you have all these other chemical treatments, and then we feed it to our animals and wonder why we can't digest our food. Right. So there's a wonderful documentary it's called King Corn ki ng CR Wonderful Doctor. For those who haven't seen it, you'll be absolutely entertained and educated by what Bill just said. And I think the part that people need to understand about glyphosate roundup

30:15 is it's a it's a cop it's a mineral key lator. It's a perfect it's a perfect key lator of copper. And why do I say that, Well, it can kilate copper down to a pH of one, which means nothing stops it. And the mineral kelating properties of glyphosate are measured on a logarithmic scale, like you know earthquakes. So magnesium comes out at a three, zinc at a nine, and copper at a twelve. So what does that mean. It means that it pulls copper out of the soil a billion times faster than it pulls out magne easy, and a thousand times faster, pulls copper a thousand times faster out of the soo then it pulls out zinc.

31:08 Those numbers are hard to relate to, don't We don't know what a thousand times faster is. There was a time when I could run an eight minute mile, and my son at that time was in college and he ran a four to oh two, so he was twice as fast as his old man. And his old man went to a gym to see what that felt like. Almost killed myself. But the thing is a thousand times faster is a game changing chemical event. And so the coppers being removed from soils all over the planet, and then they add things like a high fruitos diet, high fruit toose corn syrup. It blocks copper uptake in ourselves. Copper's not allowed in. And then we work with medications, particularly antibiotics. People don't understand what antibiotic means, anti life and what is doing? How does it kill that bacteria? It relates the copper out so it can't function. And the fourth generation antibiotics are very toxic to our health. And as you were alluding to, we can't digest food when we don't have copper. And it's and people say, well, it can't just be one mineral, No, there are many minerals affected. But it's the it's the top of the pyramid.

32:37 You've got to be really mindful because why is copper so special Because it regulates iron and oxygen at the same time, and those are two elements that like to come together to create rust, and so copper has a very special role in our in our physiology. Now, when the copper came out of our our soil as well. It's also coming it's no longer available even in our water supply. That's right, and you know in living water, because most of our water is dead to day, and I do was a comment in the chat earlier in the shell from a plumber. You know, when we go back fifty seventy five years ago, at least you know we were when we were building new houses, you know, baby boomers, that's wort of thing. We had copper pipes, so at least we were getting some copper ions back in our water, weren't we Yes, yes, we were, and we didn't have the level of iron that we have today. People, Right, people don't realize within our lifetime, Bill, I'll be seventy one in about three weeks. But within our lifetime, the changes in our mineral composition in our body have been devastating. Yes, And if you don't know about minerals, if you don't know that they're the spark plugs, if you don't know that they're critical for enzyme function, if you don't know that that's what the metabolic pathways run on, well then you just kind of move move right along. But when you get into the world of biochemistry and physiology

34:13 and you're there's a wow factor to how important these minerals really are. And it's just it isn't part of our awareness. You know, it's so true because it's you know, the body is a whole system. And actually we're going to expand on that too. The whole universe is a system. It all works together. You know that. You originally back in the in the sixties that was fortunate enough to take one of the first true ecology courses, and it taught none about cleaning up but the environment. It was about how the how the planet actually works, you know, the relationship between plants and animals and all of that. And you know, with that understand that's probably one of the main things that gave me more of an understanding at that early age that you can't isolate one thing, and you know, and that's basically what we're doing with disease and that sort of thing with the one pill systems.

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36:38 Diets and Herbs nine five four four seven two one four zero four, or visit Biocomplete Naturaldiets dot com. In a pet health cafe with my special guests, Uh Morley, And it's this whole copper thing. I mean, it goes into so many different areas of our life, and especially you know, you and I being older, like I said, the copper pipes that we have coming into the houses, and you know, the actually living water back then even you know, and you know, without all the fluorides and everything else. And of course the other thing is without the EMF. So this is a question that I wrote down and I usually do most of my shows just you know, let them flow fairly well, which I told you about.

37:38 But my question is really because I'm seeing so much of it. Copper is also used to transmit electricity, and you know, it's basically the primary, isn't it. Well, I get fat five ber optics mayble, we're taking some of that. But with all these EMFs and everything else, how does that affect the copper in our body? That's a wonderful question. What I like to do with with folks is telling ask a simple question. What's the metal that makes the tall building stand still? And its steel to iron, and what's the metal that allows the tall building to move? And it's copper because the utilities run on copper, the water historically I mean plastic now that historically copper pipes, and then electricity as you're bringing up, and what you may be fascinated to learn is that when the telegraph first came out, it it was like in the eighteen fifties, they were using iron wire.

38:49 They didn't use copper right away, and then someone realized that copper was three times faster to transmit pulses, and that's when they went over to copper. So we what's what's fascinating is forty five percent of our tissue inside this bag here, forty five percent of tissue is connective tissue, you know, the fascion and all the all the connective tissues, the blood vessels and all the all those different tissues are all made by one enzyme. And that enzyme is called lyceeal oxidase. And what does it do. It knits collagen which is strength collagen with elastin, which is flexible, knits them together to give our tissue integrity, strength and flexibility. And so we have this copper grid up, you know, from stem to stern. And when people have really reactive responses to being around EMFs, I know they are copper deficient and they are iron toxic because their body has all that iron and it becomes an antenna for the EMFs. And as soon as they start to engage in the protocol and begin to do blood donations to lower their iron footprint, they start to feel

40:23 a lot better. And so EMFs is a very serious issue, as you well know, it's become increasingly sensitive and in the last four years because there are a lot of changes made in our body over that time period. And I don't know whether we want to get into all of that, but the point is that experience changed our mineral status, and I think it's important for people to realize that that can be corrected. But it did have a significant effect on the balance between copper and iron in our body. Yeah, I mean, this is a short segment, and of course this hour is going by so fast. Another part of the issue, of course, with the the you know, the the MF effect, is the aluminum nanoparticles that have been being dumped on us since the nineteen forties. Aluminium is another transmitter of electricity and not nearly the difficient is copper obviously, and they've had a lot of problems with it, with basically burning down houses and buildings I found, and that's why I knew some of that. Absolutely, that's very true.

41:47 And I was just I was reading a fascinating article today by Christopher Oh my goodness, he's known as mister Aluminum. I'm embarrassed. I can't think of his last name because the need. But he wrote an article back in twenty thirteen where he basically exonerated copper. A lot of people think that copper causes Alzheimer's. It doesn't. Well, copper's absolutely essential to prevent Alzheimer's. But his point that he makes in this article that appeared in Nature Journal, which is a very prestigious journal, is that in the presence of aluminum, then copper isn't as effective as it should be. And he's always put the blame on aluminum as being the real contributing agent for causing a lot of the neuro deve generation, the autism, and so forth. Again, it's a debatable point, but what's important is he recognized that copper as a critical it's called a redox active metal means it's doing both reduction and oxidation, which means using and gaining electrons. Only copper and iron do that, and copper plays nice.

43:07 I am not so much. And he recognized the value of copper in our neurochemistry. Well, you know, one of the things that I know that I you know, mentioned it to you when you came by my store is and and this kind of explains it a little bit. There is this is why people are both because of the dual nature of copper, why we can be copper toxic and copper deficient at the same time, depending on what form it's in. And the other thing with the aluminum is we know that aluminum actually blocks the absorption of calcium, and that ties into the whole magnesiam manganese, phosphorus and you know process again, because we're dealing with a system, We're not dealing with a component exactly. Let me just let me just clarify your point about the copper being available and not available. A lot of confusion around that. And back in the turn of the century, back in the nineteen hundreds up until about the nineteen forties, all the great scientists were studying two metals, copper and iron. They were obsessed with them because they were trying to understand how energy was made. People like Otto Warburg, Conrad LVM, doctor Sachs, and huge names that people may not recognize, but these were very important scientists who were trying to figure out how does the human

44:38 body really work. It wasn't until the sixties that the word zinc appeared in science and it was Carl Pfeiffer who got his PhD before he got his MD, and he became a psychiatrist. That's significant. He was actually a principle in the mk Ultra program. That's even more significant. And he's the guy who in the sixties late sixties wrote an article about unbound copper. And in the article, what he specifically said is that there are under certain conditions, copper can become unbound from its protein so rulo plasma. People have never heard of that protein. It's incredibly important and it has one thousand and sixty six amino acids. Insulin has about thirty five but very very important protein, and it has eight coppers inside it. It's a beast and no one's heard of it. And your doctor probably hasn't heard of it either. That's a scary moment. But what happens under certain conditions that protein can break down and release the copper, and so doctor Pfeiffer left this impression that the copper suddenly became toxic. It doesn't. It gets bound by albumen, it gets bound by

46:09 histadine, it gets bound by trans couprine, which is a transport protein for copper, and it's not as effective in those attachments as it is with ceruloplasma. But he left an indelible mark on people's mind that copper can be reactive. And then there are scientists, most notably Svetlana Lutsenko at Johns Hopkins Medical Center in Baltimore, who have studied the amount of unbound copper inside the cell. She really wanted to know. She's originally from Russia. She wanted to know how much of this unbound copper is so reactive. And there's something called zepto molar zepto molar m o la R and you put a zero point twenty one zeros and then a one, and that's how much unbound copper there is in the cell. It's basically virtually not present. And the part that people have never been told, and I'm happy to share it with your audience, is that this so called unbound is actually regulated by the ceruloplasman protein. It's a very smart protein. It knows that it needs to bring things back into regulation. And the part that people might find a little unsettling is to find

47:40 out that excess sugar will blow up ceruloplasma. Oh yeah, they've been adding sugar for a long time, and a scorbic acid that's not our friend. Whole through vitamin C is very different than a scorbic acid, and so a scorbic acid. Back in nineteen forty eight, when the two Swedish scientists were unveiling their research about this protein, said oh, by the way, stay away from a scorbic acid. It'll blow up this protein. That was a long time ago, Bill sure, nineteen forty eight, and we've been pounding the ascorbic acid as a society ever since. We're actually at the end of the day, coming up to the end of the show. Already, believe it or not, I knew that this is what happened. And one of the first things I want to do is obviously invite you back, because you've got a lot more to share with you. But in the last minute or so here, how can people reach you and how can besides I mean, obviously you need to come to my Palaeo pet or go on to our website order your book, or onto your website and order the book. But how else can I they tap into your expertise. Absolutely, go to my website RCP for Root Cause Protocol RCP one two three. For those who are into social media, there's a Facebook group called the Magnesium Advocacy Group. There's a there's also a Facebook page, and there's an RCP community. And for those

49:16 people who really want to delve into it, I'm happy to respond to email. It's my first and last name. You can see it there on the screen, Morley Robbins at Gmail. And for the precious few that really want to reach out and chat, my phone number is eight four to seven nine to two eight zero sixty one. Well, I should point out to people, for those who are real gear heads that really want to learn more about this, we actually have an RCP institute and we are just now enrolling students for the next class that starts in February, and people absolutely love that class at sixteen weeks long, and you might want to consider that the Root Cause Protocol Institute. So just another of learning more. Again, Molly, I thank you. You don't know how much is help. It makes me feel I mean to have you want to show your expertise. You know, we all have our niches and that sort of thing. But again I want to invite you back, you know, and you know, and you know, maybe we can set up some sort of ongoing type thing because you've got so much more. You've got so much more to share. So great. With that being said, goodnight, folks, thank you for watching. Let's share this like this and subscribe so we can get all this information out to everybody out there in the world. Actually, thanks again, Morley, Thanks so much. Bill, appreciate that tonight. Does your pet suffer from allergies,

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