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Any health related information on the following show provides general
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information only. Content presented on any show by any host
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or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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or treatment program. And then now it's time for Pet
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Health Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's
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your host, Bill, the Pet Health Guru.
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And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to show where
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your pet has a voice. This is Bill your Pet
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Health Gurroum, along with my special guest host, doctor Michael Dim.
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How are we doing tonight, Doc?
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Well, how about yourself?
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Hey, another damn paradise? What can I tell you? Yeah?
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But Thursdays go on Dog days of August, right, My
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Thursdays have become very interesting. We've been kind of tracking
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it over the last couple of months, and it seems
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that I at the show of course here on Thursday night,
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but my Thursday afternoons I have more people in there
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wanting me to talk. So I started like at one
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o'clock and I don't shut up until after this show
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is over.
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Yeah, I referred to we referred to you one today that
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wanted to die and you know, she wanted you to
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interpret her all if she called the allergy test results
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on a test. Oh, I know you don't, I know
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your viewpoint on it, so I could have made it
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I sent her.
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Yeah, No, I mean it's it's it's I don't remember
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that particular one. When we had several new customers today,
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And actually I want to give a shout out to
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those that have been watching lately because I've been getting
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a lot of good feedback at the store. In fact,
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I had one new customer today that came in so
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she's been watching the show and I and we had
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her in tears because she was treating her dog so
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bad before she she stumbled upon us. You know. So
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I guess we're impacting some people anyway, which is a
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good thing. And it seems as though it keeps growing
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and growing and growing, which is a good thing.
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Absolutely is sure more information, as you say, get get
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the word out there.
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Yeah, And even though sometimes we repeat the same things,
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you know, every week, it's it's interesting because we approach
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it from different angles, and some people pick up on
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it one way and other people, you know, you have
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to run it down the three four different ways before
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it's all sudden, like, oh really, you know they have
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to wake up.
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Yeah, well, it comes down to like you know I
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mentioned they're posted about. You know, it's very simple when
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you break it down to it. You know, the keys
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to good health, you know, it all comes back to
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thee whatever organ system we're doing, it all comes down
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to the same basic principles, right and you know, not
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that we can't we don't need certain specific treatments for
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different clinical conditions, but you know in terms of prevention,
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and the best treatment is prevention. You know what we
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preach every week is really what.
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Yeah, it basically it basically comes out of those basic things.
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You know, it's about the toxicity. It's about the malnutrition,
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you know, the proper diets they go along with that,
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staying away from these toxic chemical That was on the
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phone with a practitioner in Canada last night, and it's like,
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you know, same mindset everything else. So the words getting out,
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the idea is getting out that we have to do
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things a little bit better. And it's really it really
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does boil down to being a simple approach. And of
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course the night we want to talk about a subject
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that you brought up of of course those of us
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senior care. And I don't think most you know, most
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pet owners even realize the longevity that their pet is
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supposed to be. They've been you know, lied to so
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for so long in the veterinary community that a senior
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you know, they're starting senior panels at what five and
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six years old, and if you're if you're if your
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dog makes it that eight or ten, you know, you
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want to be you know, thankful, you know that he
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lived that long and not look at what the natural
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lifespan would be, would would be normally over twenty years
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and maybe even as much as thirty and it's, uh,
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you know, it's one of the things I think we
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have to stress a lot more that you know, you're
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not getting the full healthy life of your pet even
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in that eight years because of all the procedures and
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practices and you know everything that's that's that goes on
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from the time you acquire a brand new kitten or
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a puppy. Isn't that true?
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Yeah, no, it truly is. That's put it Bill, you know,
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But senior animals are obviously there. You know, it's a
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big population of our animals, and you know, because they're
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getting sicker, you know, gurageous. We have to implement senior
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care even even early on. But you know, it's definitely
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a you know, an aspect of health care that I
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think we should talk about. And you certainly you know
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there's a lot of a lot of aspects of senior healthcare,
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which I'm sure we'll get into tonight.
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Yeah. I mean, it's it's like you know, when I
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was looking in and again putting together some of my
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ideas and my thoughts and that sort of thing on
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it the aging, the aging process, and you know, I
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kind of look at this as far as the human
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aspect as well. It's not about a numerical time, but
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it's it. You know, we age because of the accumulation
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of a lot of bad things we do to the body,
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Isn't it true?
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Right, that's right. What goes in is what you know
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comes out, so to speak. But you know it's true,
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and we put if you have a healthy lifestyle and
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you you know, minimize the chemical exposure and the toxic
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exposure as best as possible and feed that species appropriate diet,
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which probably we should jump right into and just say that,
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you know, one of the biggest things about senior healthcare
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with conventional veentory medicine. Is is that you know, as
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soon as they start to see little signs of kidney disease,
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dysfunction or liver issues, they're immediately recommending, you know, low
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protein diets for these animals, you know, just to quote
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unquote spare the workload on these organs. But as I'm
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sure we'll just you know, you can get into as
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an expert in that area. You know, when we reduce
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the proteins, we're actually creating accelerated aging and break down
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of the body. So and there are some studies you
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know that that have shown that even I think you
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mentioned previous shows about the study at ten where I
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went to school, and you know that it was about
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how low protein diets I think accelerated kidney disease.
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they were putting you know, basically in the classroom. Of course,
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you had you know, the commercial pet food people saying
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that of course the lower no protein diets and you know,
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the hydrolyzed proteins and all this stuff, and on the
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you cross over the hallway into the research part of it,
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and it had nothing to do with the amount of protein.
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because carnivores are designed to break down you know, animal
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based diets not you know, not corn and wheat and
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soybean and you know, potato starts and you know all
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that stuff. And of course when we looked at it
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on the back side of that too, when you start
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diminishing the amount of protein, of usable protein, metabolic protein
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in for a carnivore, the body still has to maintain
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the heart. That's the most important, you know, functioning part
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of the body, and that stops your dead. I mean,
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there's no two ways about it. And the body in
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order to try to keep the heart healthy, will steal
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the muscle proteins basically any place they can in the
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in the body, and generally, especially on big dogs, you
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see it immensely where the back the whole back end
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just becomes skin and bones and they have all kinds
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of hip and joint problems and muscle the muscle can't
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even hold up the body anymore. And it's because it's
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just trying to feed that heart, keep that alive. And
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you know, I mean, how healthy can that be? You know,
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that animal be I mean you know, we cut down
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the protein and we created a brand new problem. And
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I don't know why. You know, again, the medical areas
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of the professional just don't even look at the research,
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because that's been out there. I think I reported on
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probably ten to fifteen. It's been probably fifteen years ago
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when I looked up the studies. But I also have
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to tell you that if you go in back into
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the archives at PEN you will not find that research,
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you know, because of course they partnered with I think
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they partnered with while they partnered with one of the
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big pet food companies, and all that research just disappears
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right because it's contrary to what the pet food companies
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you know, want you to know. I forgot at the
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beginning of the show to tell people go ahead and
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jump on the chat and of course like us and
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you know, share this podcast. Let's get everybody on here
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tonight if we can. I mean, that would be a
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great thing to do. You've already got a question up there,
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at what age do you do you consider a senior dog?
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Well, in today's country, in the United States, the conventionally
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treated animal, of course, the senior is, like you mentioned,
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is going to be a lot younger than if they
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were raised in a in a purest way, and I
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should say over generations, because that's the best way to
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get healthier, you know, aspects of young animals in this generation.
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you know, that's how conventional vets have always looked at it.
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basically a large breed dog like a Great Dane or
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a giant breed dog in other words, you know those
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type of breeds, great Pyrenees, U these breeds they're aging.
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I mean, they're considered seniors, like you mentioned at the
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start of the show, after you know, four or five
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years of age, because their lifespan in this country is
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what eight or ten years. And then the smaller breeds,
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the poodles and the toy breeds, you know, they say
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the senior ages and until you know, after ten. So
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you know, the answer to that question depends upon the breed.
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But as you said earlier, if we raise them the
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way they're supposed to be raised, and as I mentioned,
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especially if it's done over generations, so you have healthier
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healthier animals to begin with, there's no reason why animals
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can live to be well over twenty Like you said, Yeah, well,
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you know.
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and that short thing with the big breeds and that
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strat thing. You know, I kind of I have, you know,
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this gut feeling that so many of those those giant
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breeds and the big breeds of dogs have this much
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shorter lifespan because when you're feeding a species inappropriate diet,
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primarily a carbohydrate based diet, of course they have a
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tendency to put on a lot of weight and excessively
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have trouble getting around just because of the extra weight.
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And of course the common approach to preventing that is
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a cut down on their diet, cut down on the
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calories that they're getting so they don't gain weight. And basically,
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I think these animals are are shorter lived because of starvation,
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if you will, or at least very very severe malnutrition.
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the quality of the food, and the body goes into
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what we call a state of catabolism when it breaks
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down the protein. You see that atrophy over the muscles,
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you know, very common in cats too. They get very
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atrophied over their backbones and backbone and lower end of
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the body. So you know, we see that muscle wasting
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and it's often due to you know, the poor diets,
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the indigestible diets that they're that they're eating. Keep in
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mind all the chronic diseases that are linked to these diets,
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anything from cancer, which is obviously the number one, you
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know killer of dogs and cats today. The quality of
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those ingredients, the carcinogenic additives all go into you know,
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cancer increases the other We see a lot of diabetes
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and animals today very epidet is. And again the carbohydrate
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type diets over time are gonna is going to stress
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that pancreas and again lead to autoimmune issues. As I
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talk about all the time, most of these diseases of
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the body are due to an overactive immune system secondary
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to all the toxins we talk about each week on
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the show. So when the immune system attacks the pancreas
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or the cells that make insulin, we get destruction of
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that and then we get diabetes. And again the carbohydrates
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just accelerate that. So you know, diabetes, we see mentioned cancer,
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you know, all sorts of hormonal disorders that we're seeing
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in senior pets. A lot of those have to do
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with the the ingredients and the pet food. So you know,
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it starts with what we eat always.
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Right exactly, you know, and you know, of course, you
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know we're talking about seeing your care and that sort
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of thing, and you know, when should we when should