Sept. 12, 2024

Are You and Your Pets Health Issues A Mineral Imbalanced?

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As our go-to-researcher, Morley's research opens more doors on how the body works, and the ultimate guide in what we need in minerals for optimal health. Extremely detailed in how we need to look at the cells and beyond for those health answers. We cover it all!

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And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and.

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Welcome to the Pet Health Cafe to show where your

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to answer them. And I've got a returning guest. He's

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one of our favorites, Morley Robbins, the Mineral Guy, the

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Copper Guy. You can you can refer to them in

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a lot of different ways. And he's with us now, greetings, Hey,

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how you doing, Morley, I'm.

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Doing great, doing great.

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Yeah, it's been it's been a little while this time.

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I guess it's probly in several weeks.

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I know, your hectic schedule.

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It's yeah, you know, it's I do a lot of

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these conversations. They all sort of blend into each other.

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I know how that is. And I only do you know,

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one or two a week, so it uh, but but

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I do the live stuff in store every day, so

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it's like that's like doing another broadcast in many days,

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and sometimes multiples in a row, you know, on different topics.

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You're you're always on stage.

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So how has it? Everything been good?

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Good? Absolutely good. The research doesn't stop. What I learned,

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the universe seems to enjoy my picking around rewards me

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really good. Yeah, it's absolutely fascinating. And one of the

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things I learned recently is that that there's you know,

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you have a front door to your store, right, you

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probably have a back door too, Yeah, and felt it

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like that with your home you have a front door

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and back door. But turns out that people have heard

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of hem iron, and they've heard of non he iron,

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but they didn't know that they were that different. But

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they really are different. And it turns out that the

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cell has two front doors and two back doors.

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That interesting.

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Yeah, there's a there's a heme doorway in and out,

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and there's a non heme doorway in and out. And

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it is absolutely amazing. And so just to round out

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the analogy, think of hem iron as being round tires

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and non hem iron being square tires. Hmmm, what do

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you want to work with?

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Right?

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Right, exactly?

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And so the hem iron is organic and the non

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hem iron is inorganic, and in these work in order

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to be used. And it's it's absolutely fascinating to see

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how I mean, I've been doing fifteen years of research

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and just in the last couple of weeks came upon

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this mind numbing information that I've never known about. So

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it's just it's amazing. And the research, when you get

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into the iron research, it's all about the non heam side.

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There's very little research on the heam side.

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And so yeah, they believe I mean.

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Well, and I bet you've got clients that are that

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are eating a carnivore diet, not just your pet clients,

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but your human clients, and they probably feel better when

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they're on a carnivore diet, and there's a there's a

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reason for that because they can work with the heam

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I are better than they can work with the name.

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It's it's really it's it's like a parallel universe we

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didn't even know about. So the confusion around that and

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all of this fortification iron fortification, right, that's all on

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the nona inside.

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Yeah, you know, I tried to explain a lot of

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that when we get clients coming in and you know,

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if you've been in an iron supplement, and it's like,

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you know, the answer to that, they all have been.

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And in fact, I expect the question hopefully to pop

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up here. I was talking with a client earlier today

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and she just got back blood work and they always

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tell her she's an emic, and today her blood work

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came back that it's like supercharged with iron. What went on?

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Yeah, you wanted an answer.

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I'm hoping the question pops up. But anyway, because I

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got opened the door for them here. But it's like

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one of the other things that I I stumbled on

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about two weeks ago, because we do obviously do a lot.

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We talk a lot about gut biome and you know,

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the bacteria and everything else. And I've been forever, I've

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been saying, you know that if you don't have all

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that bacteria that could but you know, and good bacteria

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and even bad bacteria for that matter of fact, but

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if you don't have bacteria in your diet and in

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your in your gut, you're dead. And I was introduced

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to a research, uh paper that came out and that

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was kind of mind boggling that now they found that

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not only is that bacteria that that gut biome breaking

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down our foods and making it more usable, but they

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are actually producing vitamins and minerals. Basically taking the spot

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that you're that's a bacteria means you don't have to

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take supplements anymore. And it was, it really was, and

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it's like it makes sense, you know, because they're synthesizing

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just like we are. You know, even though it's on

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a microscopic basis, but you know, our body can make

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different vitaminsine isolate, different minerals just through different digestive and

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biochemical actions that are going on inside the body. And

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you know, of course we have to feed that bacteria.

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That's the other good thing about that. We have to

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feed it with the right stuff.

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Right.

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It doesn't bacteria cannot make minerals. They can make vinings.

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Yeahs no, they can. You know. That's more I think

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more about isolating them into a usable form than anything else, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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the minerals are going to be there no matter what.

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Yeah, you should I should have. I should introduce you

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to my friend Martha Carlin, who specializes in microbiome and

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she actually has a product called sugar Shifted, which is

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just amazing for helping to restore the mean and she

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is to the microbiome what I am to the mitochondria. So, okay,

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we have this constant tug of war about it's kind

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of a Jane Curtain dan Ackroyd thing, like who's who's

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who's top dog, And we've kind of just decided that

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we're both right, and the minerals are essential to make

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the microbiome work. That's really they've come down. And I

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think people don't realize how mineral deficient the food is

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that they're eating. And they may have the may have

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the microbes, but are they being properly charged with the

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minerals that's.

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The key question. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. A note

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to my h engineer. I'm getting that feedback again. Okay,

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going like that technical glitch there, but yeah, what's that? Nope,

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I didn't say that, Yep, okay it No, it's interesting

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that you know, people there's like amazed, and of course

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their doctors and their healthcare professionals and that sort of

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thing are amazed when Okay, you know you've been ANEMAC

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all this time, and you know we keep giving you supplements.

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Obviously now they're working because now you're not a nam anymore.

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You know, you get this iron spike. But now I

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think you have.

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To you have to get into the weeds of it

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to find out what's going on because there are three

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different containers from iron. There's there's a bucket that's holding

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the hem of globe and that's eighty percent of the

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iron in the body. It's a big bullets of irons

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in the hem of blob. And then there's a tea

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cup that's holding ferretin. But the ferretin's supposed to be

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inside the cell. It's not supposed to be in the blood.

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So if rriton is suddenly flooding into the bloodstream. That's

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a completely different set of questions and factors. And then

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there's a third container that's a thimble, and that's serum iron.

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Sometimes it's called total iron, sometimes it's just called iron.

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And that's the iron in transit between the spleen and

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the bone marrow to make me red blood cells. So

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we get this bucket, the teacup, and then a little

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tiny thimble, because that's less than one percent of the

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iron in the body is in transit, and doctors of

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all faiths and persuasion don't know that there's a difference

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between a bucket, a teacup, and a thimble. And it's

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important to know what of those three or all three

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showing signs of low or high or are they just

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out of regulation. So it's really really important to understand

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the context. And the part is absolutely not to what

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is that all three containers were regulated by copper and

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that that's just theoretical to say that that's a fact.

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So yeah, yeah, it's you know, when you said you

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had a bunch of new information for us and that

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sort of thing. You know, I'm always looking to learn

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obviously myself, and how can we you know, pass us

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on to our clientele and that sort of thing. It's

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will just I'm amazed at the amount of information that's

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coming out and that we're finally starting to see but

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getting it into a format where the average consumer, the

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average person can understand it or even care about it.

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In many cases, you know, you know, my doctor said,

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my blood work is fine, what do I do? Okay? Nothing, okay,

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But really you still need to take a look at

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that lifestyle. You still got to look at what you're

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eating and putting into that body because it can change

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quite quickly. Because those parameters like on blood work and

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that sort of thing, they're really not that accurate. It's

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a snapshot in time at that moment. If you will

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could be damaged, it could be tainted. We don't know.

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It's influenced by a lot of other things. And you know,

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fifteen minutes from now, you know, if it wasn't in

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such vague terms, you might see radical changes in just

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a short period of time. Now, just that fight or

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flight was getting the putting the needle in to extract

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the blood that changes the chemistry in itself.

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Yeah, I mean I donated blood today and Levana said, no,

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this is gonna it's gonna be a little little tringe,

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and I'm like, go ahead. I didn't. I didn't feel

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the needle go in, but I'm sure at the sight

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of the entry there was a reaction, some adrenaline that

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was being pumped out. But yeah, I think people don't

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realize how vulnerable we are to emotions and how powerful

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they are to shift the biochemistry the body. It's a

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nassy change that can make place.

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Yeah, and you know, of course we're trying to balance

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so much of what we do with the diet, the

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diet itself and of course herbs and botanicals. I had

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a new client today, in fact, that dug with cancer.

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They sent him to an oncologist that wanted to try

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a three drug cocktail basically on this dog and give

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it three weeks and nothing is happening, nothing has changed.

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And I said, what are you looking at though, you

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know you're not doing anything. And fortunately they went to

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one of my colleagues that's more in tune with what

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we do, told her she has to be on the

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heatogenic diet. You know, we got to get that species

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appropriate diet and everything else. So I have to assume

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that she wasn't on that already. You know that the

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ontologists obviously had no clue on it. When she did

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ask about different other herbals or more natural ways, they

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just said, we know nothing about that. There's no that

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Eastern medicine doesn't talk to Western medicine. And it's not

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it's not even Eastern Western. It's not the difference in

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philosophy that way, although there are a lot of philosophical differences,

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but it's just overall health and well being and basically

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life isn't it?

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Well, it is, and I think with as socially when

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it comes to cancer, the whole corner someone of cancer treatments.

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We've got to kill the cancer self. There, you don't,

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that's not that's not the answer. Got to rehabilitate the

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cancer because because what cancer metabolism represents is a very

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early life form, I mean early a long time ago,

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is when iron dominated the planet and relied on fermenting

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sugar for fuel, and that's not the way we're designed.

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So when someone's been given that diagnosis, that means that

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there's a very significant regression in their metabolism in that

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particular area, whether it's an oregon or you know where

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it might be taking place in the skin and what

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have you. And so that's that's something for people to realize,

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is that the whole philosophical framework is flawed because it's

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all based on killing the cancer, not trying to restore metabolism.

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Yeah, it's in fact, it's interesting the uh uh, the

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people that put out the documentary you know, Truths about

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Cancer just came out with an update and a lot

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of other things. And it's the only description I can

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give it when it comes to the allopathic model versus

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you know, a more natural approach and uh, you know,

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basically looking is it becoming an all out war?

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Oh?

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You know, and I'm seeing that with comments that you know,

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clients are telling me in house. It's like, you know,

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first off, if you've got if they diagnosed cancer, you've

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got two weeks to live. It doesn't matter what unless

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you do what I say. It's that that level of

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fear that's entered into it, and you know, the average

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person just going to panic.

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Oh absolutely, and so throughly with all the turbino cancers

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right now, that's that's only adding to the fear. But

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it continues to rise. It's going to be the number

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one cause of death probably within the next year or two,

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it's getting very close to heart disease and that's not

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a good thing. And completely misunderstanding about what's going on.

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And of course they the conventional cardio a conventional on

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calls just love to blame copper for the problem. And

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it's like do flies cause garbage? No, that we're trying

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to blame that the flies for causing this this dynamic.

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It's just it's insane, it really is. And it's you know,

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it's not an easy solution for the average person because

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they're looking, you know, they're looking at their doctor for answers,

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and they're really they're not getting answers. That's you know,

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that are going to be on you know that they're

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going to actually see tangible results with most of the times,

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especially with cancer.

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Right they're being given protocols but no explanation.

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Yeah, And I actually wrote an article a month ago,

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two months ago on how protocols in medicine and health

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really don't work that well because once you start making

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the changes of the body, the whole body's changing, So

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the protocol's got to change, doesn't it.

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Of Course, what's really interesting if you want to get

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into the history of cancer. I mean a lot of

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people know about Auto Warburg and his fascination. I mean

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he really studied three things. He studied cancer, photosynsuses, and

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he studied the mitochondria intensely because they were all related.

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It's really fascinating to think about that those three functions

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are all have common overlap. But he was studying it

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in the nineteen twenties very intensely. And in nineteen twenty

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six he and Johannes Fibager were being considered for a

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Nobel Prize to see what was the cause of cancer,

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and Warburg was arguing that it was metabolic and Fivager

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said it was a parasite, and the committee couldn't decide

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who was right. They didn't actually award the Nobel Prize

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in nineteen twenty six. It was awarded the next year

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and they gave it to Fibger, and Warburg went bonkers,

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absolutely bonkers. And what's even more fascinating is that before

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all this psychodrama, there was a physician who got his

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degree at Hopkins, his MD de Great Hopkins in nineteen

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oh nine. His name was Montrose T. Burrows. Is that

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a great name or what attempted to change my name

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here you go. But he in nineteen twenty five, he

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was working at the Rockefeller Institute. Okay, so everyone's finer

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should be taking air bright about man. And he wrote

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an article in nineteen twenty five proving that parasite excuse me,

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proving that retinal deficiency was the true cause of cancer.

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And then in nineteen twenty six he came out with

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four articles reaffirming his position. That's a lot of articles

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back in the day. And then we've got this fight

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with Woolburg and then Fivinger after he gets the Nobel

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he recounts his whole theory about parasites, and he writes

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an article reinforcing what Montrose is talking about with retinal deficiency,

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and then he's dead four months later. But the thing is, retinol.

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Retinal is so important to our diet, and people don't

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realize the role that it plays in the breakdown A

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bit about you.

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All right, we're at the break here. Let's go to

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this quick break and then let's get into this a

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lot more heavily. We'll be right back.

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And that was I mean, when you were talking about

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there was really really fascinating about you know what the

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actual cause of cancer is now when we look at

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the at the body and you know the metabolic part

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of it actually being the cause, and of course the

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controversy with parasites. If the body was off metabolically, parasites

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could very well be present as well, because they have

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now the opportunity the body can't fight them.

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That's right. I think from what I know from alternative

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practitioners who do a lot of work in oncology progressive oncology,

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they pretty well recognize that that pathogens, but especially parasites

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are involved in that process. It makes sense. And so

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if you follow the work of Pat Colby, the animal

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farmer down Under, she was very emphatic about how copper

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deficiency would allow parasites to flourish. Well, it makes more sense.

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And the flip side is, if you have parasites, you've

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got copper deficiency. As much as they want to blame

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cancer on coppa, I think it's really it's a lack

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of copper that's causing the crisis. And you know, we

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don't need to get into all the details, but I

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think there's a gross misunderstanding of what's happening from mineral standpoint.

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And the part that's lost over completely is conventional oncology

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doesn't talk about the iron accumulation that's taking place in

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the two. The iron is building, building building, it's getting

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stuck there. And I was reading an article today that

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was absolutely fascinating. Explain exactly what happens, and it's just

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there's a complete breakdown of the recycling system in the

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in the cells and it's all mineral driven and when

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the iron builds up, chaos ensues and it's it's really

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it's a very intriguing area of science that I'd never

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really studied that much until recently.

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Yeah, it's interesting. There's been a lot a lot of

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activity online with with of course raw pet food diets

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and stuff like that. I fact, it was a conference

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in Orlando this past week that I would kind of

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monitoring virtually, But there's been a lot of talk about copper.

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When we look at the kibble you know, dry food

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model that veterinarians follow all the time, and we look

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at the at the fresh prey, fresh meat diets that uh,

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so many people are moving to, they're talking so much

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about regulating the copper, making it a part of the

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recommendations and something. Because they're talking so much about toxic

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copper toxicity, which is one of the first things that

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I talked with you about, and you know, you just

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spilled that notion to me that it's just in the

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wrong form. And of course when they're adding copper to

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a Uh, for instance, a pet food diet. What form

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