Are You Abused By Your Veterinarian & The Staff

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0:41 And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet Has a Voice. This is Bill Pet Health Guru once again with another interesting show for you. We're going to go dive into some real difficult sometimes to talk about topics. But as always, I want to encourage you to share this with as many pet and human health people that you can share it with, because it's going to apply to everyone. Go ahead and like it so that we get the algorithms up. We're seeing more and more coming into the chats and you know, higher, higher numbers, and of course subscribe so you never miss a show. The chat room is open. We encourage questions. Tonight, I'm gonna encourage the actually a little bit about you know, if you got a little bit of a short story that you want to throw in there, that would be great, and you know we're going to talk about something, like I said, that's a little bit touchy. I've got my special guests, doctor Michael dimm coming on now, and we have to be a little bit careful with what we say on some of this stuff because he's in the profession and sometimes has to watch the way he words things.

1:54 How you doing, Doc, I'm doing well though. But as we were talking before I came on, you know, I have the right birth sign for this type of work. So I'm a Gemini. So Geminis know how to have two sides in their heads. Now, you know, with me being a tourist, I'm a little bit more stubborn, not that you've ever seen. But anyway, so whatever we our topic is and what came up on our advertising, of course, is bad diagnosis and basically we're going to be looking at a whole lot of different issues that's coming up around how you get a diagnosis from your vet, what's happening in that that office, why is it happening, and how can we fix it?

2:41 You and I had a conversation over the weekend with another client that had a horrible, horrible experience, spent a ton of money that they didn't have for basically nothing, and was let was actually being guided down a improper road, if you will, or you know, we weren't on the map, you know, we should have been going west and we're going east. You know, it just didn't make any sense when we start putting things together, and of course we're dealing with clients, so we're getting a lot of this information's secondhand, third hand, that sort of thing, which makes it your job, in my job, a lot harder. And the underlying feeling though that I'm getting is, you know, we're all out there as pet owners, pet lovers, pet parents, trying to make a difference in that animal's life. They're dependent upon us completely. We try to do the best we can. We get bombarded with a ton of bad information, misleading information from those that we thought were experts. And you know, I've done a couple of shows on experts in the past, and it's it's very difficult. When you have a client that you've had for a while, an emergency pops up, they of course panic, they listen to you know, their relative and her friends and everything has only get a rush right to the emergent er and next thing. You know that everything that you and I have done has been peeled off. You've been you know,

4:11 you're being pushed out of away basically with the advice that you've given because because you're an alternative. I'm pushed away because I don't have letters after my name. And in the process, we're seeing these owners and the animals. In my opinion, they're being abused, aren't they. Yeah, absolutely, they're being taken advantage of. You know, I had a client in my house today, you know who traveled down from traveled down from Stewart and she gave me an awful experience of where she had three dogs. She's a single mom and then and she's you know, has her own health challenges and is doing the best she can to manage your life and wants to do it writing, wants to feeds pieces of appropriate diets, take care of our animals with non toxic, non drug alternatives.

5:02 And she has local vets that she needs because some of our animals have certain pathologies where they need certain medications right now currently, And when she goes into the vet office, it becomes a financial diagnostic crusade. That's the best way I think that to God knows where, and over issues that don't even exist. So you know, often what's used is the tactic of fear to get clients to run certain tests or if they don't accept certain treatments or medications, that they're bad people. They're putting their animals at risk. And it's very intimidating. One of my colleagues at the falcon Ay US called I mean, we use these terms before, you know, doctor whitecoat. You know, it's very very intimidating. And this goes on increasingly so now in my profession, and I think a big part of that is this we can get into a little bit later, is this corporate takeover of the veterinary profession, even you know, old mon pop practices. I know, I used to work at one UH in Losahatchie that was owned by a guy in New Yorker that came with his family and built a practice by blood, sweat and tears and you know, and then he sold it to a corporate group and the whole practice changed and lost that family connection. And again it was a conventional that office, but it used to be done very differently. And now

6:34 because of the you know, the financial angle and the explosion of the ego. You know, clients just get you know, into pushed into corners. And you know, this woman gave me the story today and it really was like little abuse, just like you know we talked about before we came on. I mean it, you know, it's and and and yelling at the client, I mean at the body and if the guard doesn't do the test that they want them to do. In this case, she was telling me he was yelling at her, the veterinarian that if she didn't do this certain testing, that she would you know that she was such a bad person and was putting her animals out at risk. And it's really sad though, really it's pretty sad, you.

7:18 Know, I know, you know, we run into it. Of course, you know, I'm more on a nutritional side and that sort of thing. But also but when you look at the I mean I had a client, had several clients in today actually that once they switched over. One of them had a dog with cancer and was talking to me how all the lumps and bumps just changing the diet and a couple of simple herbs all went away. Another one was at the end of the day came in and we met her probably fourteen fifteen years ago and had a Vishla, nice short haired dog. But there's the lump and bump breed of the animal kingdom, and that's what she had been told twenty years ago. And I said, first off, it has nothing to do with breed most of the time. But once she had switched to a raw diet and started doing herbs, and they do.

8:12 They actually own a health food company as well on people's side, juices and stuff like that, but doing all this stuff for themselves. But she says after that that dog was supposed to be dead in like a month and it lived like another seven eight years. And when they replaced it, he says, I've had two or three now over a period of time. And she's got docsins as well, and she says there's never any lumps or bumps. But they feed a species appropriate diet. She does a lot with different herbs. She's very knowledgeable in that area herself. But even as knowledge as bull as we can be, we have those moments where we forget, you know, oh my god, you know, what what do I need? I got some hair loss and I start going through to listen.

8:56 She's like, okay, do that. Oh my God, I don't do that anymore. Why don't I do that anymore? And you know you're taking him down the road. So we have to continuously resell even without the influence of the outside vets the yellow path, so that basically, I mean you you know, we had a client last weekend basically was told that on a nine month old, eight month ol nine month old puppy that if you continue to feed a raw diet, your dog will die of kidney failure in a couple of years. I mean, that was a declaration, like God, it will happen to you. And there's no scientific basis for any of that, is there?

9:37 No, not at all. It's all I don't know where they got that piece of information from. I mean maybe a commercial conventional vet meeting or run by the pet food companies, but I don't know. It's certainly not accurate. And but again it's another example of fear. You know, too much, too much protein for a young, growing animal. And who would to think of such a thing. I mean, godden, our bones are growing and our muscle and they're putting muscle on and you know the most important thing is by protein. It's the opposite of what they're talking about, right, you know. And if you turn around, okay, you all the l pass and the conventional practices now are pushing of course, these so called script diets, but even the companies that developed them. That's for managing a so called disease, if you will, after the fact. There's never any talk about any kind of prevention, is there?

10:34 No, not at all. I agree. I mean the species appropriate diety, what it does an interesting concept. We should talk about it. One day. I got it. And you know, the augument's always being made. They're domesticated and they're different. Bodies have evolved to handle these things. And uh, you know, it's just, I mean, so much inaccurate statements. There's so much in that current information, and you know, it's it's really sad because, as I said, the client wants to bet. I mean in an anomal I mean I had a court. I mean everything we're gonna be talking about on the show tonight, I had manifest today in my practice. So in terms of in terms of people calling, like I had an emergency phone call from a client that I had done some document work for. I had health documents, you know, several months ago, and she showed him in the New England area, and her dog was lethargic vomited a couple of times. And this went on over a few days, and she got concerned and and emailed me, and I got back to her right away, but it was too late. She was already at the allopathic that office, and they ran a whole bunch of tests through. I mean, it was just is a two year old dog that CBC kem X rays.

11:51 I don't know if they did your analysis too, but you know, and they came up with a diagnosis of lime disease, not that it was line positive, and it had a high fever, and so the you know, they were like trying to frighten her that you got to treat the dog with a month of docs of cycling, strong drugs to stop the fever, strong drugs to stop the vomiting. And her the bill that she got, I mean more important, I mean more importantly what the health ramifications on the animal are. But even just to you know, like know, the bill for what I just stated was, you know, thirteen hundred dollars just for the medications. And and she called me when she was in the waiting room and I she said, you know, the veteran in the other room. What should I do? And I said, you want to get some fluids to hydrate the animal, that's fine, that's harmless. Be twelve injection, that's okay, not gonna hurt, but please refuse all the other drugs and medications.

12:47 And I explained that a one oh four point something fever is just like you or I having a one hundred and one or one hundred temperature and you know, normal temperature, and a dog there cat is one hundred doll in two and a half. So it's like, I mean, the fear about the fever is another big thing. And I actually posted something about that on my social media wall today about fevers, and you know that's used as another fear based ploy. So you know, I ended up taking over the case, or at least redirecting the client. And she was just, you know, very grateful, and you know, she did spend the money on the diagnostics because I didn't get to her in time, but at least at least we avoided the the drugs and the toxins. And then she texted me at the end and said, just as I was leaving, they try to read me the riot at of how I was being a bad pet owner and this this type of story. I just that one goes on all the time. Like I said, it happens very frequently in you're in my world as we talk about.

13:46 Yeah, it really is. And like I said, you know, first off, to all that misinformation, none of it is you know, really backed up by any science. Obviously, it's never backed up in what happened as in nature. You know, you know, we need to take a look at that. We need to stay focused on how do these animals, how have they survived for thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions. Of years plus. The information is often inaccurate. I said to the client, I said, if you tested one hundred dogs in your area of New England, ninety one percent of them would test positive for lime disease. I mean, oh my god. I mean it's like you know, and you know, they always the vets use that as a fear ploy to do all sorts of additional testing and drug therapies. And the truth of the matter is is that positive lime exposure diagnosis it means that you were just exposed to something. Doesn't mean that the symptoms are due to that and need to be addressed as such, and so I had to really I had to explain that to this client as well, because you know our audience where the animals live in those areas, you know, where you have high levels of positive tests like that.

14:58 It's just a field day for the convention that an arian on. Sure. Yeah, and that's just it. I mean, even if you even if it were exposed and even came down with symptoms, the body is working to get rid of it. Anyway. And of course now we also know on the testing, and this was one of the things that was thrown at me the other day. Of course they're now using PCR for everything and you can get whatever results you want. And anyway, this particular dog supposedly had head of worming with a natural product actually overdid it a bit, But I said, you got a super cleanse. That's all you got, right, But according to the Yellowpath event that the stool check came back with eighty five percent hookworms in the stool. Now, how do you get that number from a PCR test? You, I mean, you can't make some of this stuff up.

15:57 I mean it's like, uh, it doesn't test like that. That's not the way to Now, if you are looking through your microscope, you know, the old fashioned way, and that's actually had microscopes anymore. Ye. Yeah, they're on the display in the office, not where they're actually doing stuff. Well, yeah, the practice I told you about with the family run, we still have microscopes in there. They're still doing this, Yeah, in house fehcles, which to me is God bless them that they're doing it that way. Every other vet practice from what I know, is doing it where they, like you said, sending these tests out to these labs. Yeah, you know that actually are doing PCR and everything, and then the labs build because I know there's being recently affiliated with these type of practices. The labs are charging the veterinarians such high costs for these tests, and then of course the veterinarian needs to make their money, so they're putting it on top of you know what they're what they're being charged, and so it becomes so astronomical.

16:58 I did you KNOWLT year I was doing some relief work and the practice, I mean they wanted to do an ear culture on a dog, not that I think it's a very worthwhile test, but it was three hundred dollars for them to stick a swab in the ear and get a culture from an animal's ear. Three hundred dollars just for a simple test. It's not even you know that we can get into that in a minute. But no accuracy and that diagnosis either. And that's the other thing we should really talk about, is you know how I mean, like you're starting to hit that how accurate are all these tests that we're doing, and most of the time they're they're not, And it's just it really is it really is high crimes against the client.

17:41 Yeah, I mean even the simple blood test today, I mean they keep changing the ranges. Does that mean that the health is that much of a moving target that we have to adjust and modify these numbers like every thirty days, sixty days, ninety days. But whenever they adjust it, it just seems quinc dental that there's always an increase in the sale of pharmaceuticals that goes along with that. Well, you know, then it never expands it out where the animals are healthier or the people are healthier, they're always worse and worse and worse and worse. And you know, and of course the accuracy of blood work in itself is quite often problematic. You know, you look at the hemolysis on some of these. They don't even know how to take blood, so it's like tainted to start with.

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20:26 Products can be ordered online twenty four to seven at mypaleopet dot com and ship nationwide to your doorstep. Called nine nine twenty five hundred to speak with our friendly staff today. Let my Paleo Pet help keep your pet peppier and. Healthier and welcome back to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your pet has voice. This is build a Pet Health Guru along with special guests. After Michael Didim and we're talking about abuse, and basically you have animal hospitals and probably the same in people hospitals. You know, when you get into the allopathic world. I know I've been in you know, alternative practice settings quite a bit over the nine thousand years I've been doing this. But you know, normally, like you go into your office or a lot of the other alternatives that we have, the atmosphere number one is completely different. There's no, there's not that high tension.

21:40 You know. Sometimes you know, some of the bets will be sitting on pillows on the floor or you know, at least at a desk that's comfortable and comfortable chairs when because you're you basically need the information translated from the pet owner. And if you start abusing them and start talking them down, what kind of answers are you going to get? Exactly? Yeah, And it's just like and then you know, it puts them on the defensive. And it's also, like I said, it becomes abusive literally abuse, emotional abuse, verbal abuse, and uh, you know there's no need for that in healthcare whatsoever. No. And I know when I go to the cardiologist, he's like, are you're taking this? You're taking your blood. Then no, I don't I go there for just like you know, I'm not taking I take, I take. I try to get it through like you know, if I need some dioretic effect through herbs like dandelion and that kind of thing.

22:37 But you know, I'm not going to be taking these drugs. And he looks at me, you know, but he doesn't chastise me. Yeah, it's not. It just seems to be a lot worse on the animal's side, And of course the animal can't say no, I don't want that. I think that's probably why Bill it's so to be. You know, it's probably my colleagues thinking that, hey, you know, we're the voice for these animals, and they can't express themselves if you're making bad choices, and so there is part of that in their actions. It doesn't excuse it, but I really it's got to change, and we have to educate the client. But also which maybe we can get into as we go along. Also, it's important for the client not to co participate in that diagnostic crusade.

23:23 In other words, I got an email last night. I don't think i'd ever received an email that I shared it with you because I was going to send her you away, because I don't think I could possibly take on a case like that where a person just I don't know some of it might have been. It was just all over the place the email, but you know, running from one vet to the other to the other, and then bashing them for doing this, and then heart doing that, and then feeding and over analyzing and overinterpreting this that or the other thing. And we have to be very careful. Our clients want answers for their animals. But the answer isn't guys in a lab test most of the time, it's not in a biopsy jar. It really is those lumps and bumps. They don't need to have their you know, be have a needle stuck in them.

24:10 They don't need to have a scalpel blade, you know, take a part of it that doesn't determine the body's ability to heal itself, which is most of the time can do. Yeah. And you know, when when I was reading that, I mean I saw some different parts of it, you know, because I probably interpreted a little bit differently than you do. But this customer had basic feelings about where the problems could be coming from, what could be the rude cause and they were completely just blown off. You know, the eye specialist wasn't was just looking at the eye. Well, what caused the eye to have a problem, you know, And well, I don't know. I'm looking at the eye and the eye is bad, and you know he's going blind and he's got this and he's got that, and you know, you know, this is the problem specialty medicine is they don't look at the body as a whole, because it didn't start in the eye unless you got poked in the eye with a hot iron. You know, it started someplace else in the body. And it starts with what you're putting in the body, you know, air, water, food, and then you have to go from there. You have to start there. And yet I don't see that ever being the case with a very few exceptions, like yourself in that medicine and animal health. And the thing is too on the other side of that. If they did start with that, it's like, okay, what are you feeding?

25:40 Oh I'm feeding wrong and feeding home cook whatever. They get a lecture immediately. Okay, they haven't done an exam on the dog or the cat. They haven't put their hands on them. They've been in a room for thirty seconds and they're already bashing you that you're a bad pet parent because you're not doing what they want you to. But I've never seen a vet that just said, okay, i'm your pet's advocate. I'm also going to pay his bills. Have you ever seen one that would pay the bills? No, that's for sure. And you know. I counsel people in that. It's like, you know, well that wants me to do this, Well, why what is his reason for doing that? Ask the why? Ask the why all the time? Ask the why. Well, I think it might be this and one of those other clients that we share she was going through because the diagnosis made no sense at all, that or suspected diagnoses, i should say, and where they were going to lead a testing to and everything else. And she's looking at a list, you know. I mean, some of the customers now are getting smart enough they go at least do a little bit on Google. But she's going down the list of forty different symptoms that the animal might have, and she came up with two. They're rein vomiting. Well, that's on every single condition, isn't it.

27:04 It sure is. Yeah, none of the other symptoms. No, And you know, the truth of the matter is also that running all these tests that they do, for the most part, and being a you know, in the veterinary business for thirty four years, in clinical practice of some kind, it's just, you know, the test, we don't diagnose what we say we're going to, so we spend all of this money, you know, for example, of vomiting and diarrheatoma, and we spend all this money, which you and I of course have a totally different interpretation about what that was. But anyway, in their world, they were saying, we need to rule out you know, infectious disease, a inflammatory disease, B, and we need to do all these tests, and for the most part, ninety percent of the time, no allopathic diagnosis is made. And then we're left with something called idiopathic, which you've heard me say on the show right means you know, we don't know where the idiots you know, what does that mean? And then we end up using polypharmacy and prescription drug prescription foods, which you know are just such a horrible gateway to more ill health. And that's the basis of badly much of conventional practice.

28:26 Well, the other thing too, is you know, it's widely accepted that the number one cause of all disease. At the top of that pyramid is stress. Every test, additional tests that you do, how much extra stress, how much extra you know, and so many of them because they have to do sedation, and you know, radiation is now becoming a much much bigger part of it. How much more are we placing in that pat right for the sake of maybe rulings something out. We haven't started on a healing program. We're not doing a healing program. We're actually just creating other new opportunities. When the way I look at it, you know, it's just another new opportunity.

29:13 And you know, we see that. You know, the easiest one for me to show is cancer. You know, where they start removing tumors, but the cancer is being done throughout the whole body. And they're so proud because they did a great surgery, surgery, and two months later, there's a tumor three times the size right next to where you just took it off, And why did that happen? And often the tumor type, even though, is a different one. So in allopathic thinking. So in other words, we and you and I both know it's the same disease, just getting worse. Yeah, And they look at it as not always the spread of one specific cancer, but as separate cancer. They look at the body as parts.

29:55 Yeah, exactly, and of course you know they again, the body is designed to reconstruct itself, to fix itself, to heal itself. Our job, my job, and your job, is to give that client the tools in their toolbox that they need to do that because we know that the allopathache has no health tools in their toolbox at all. No, not at all, other than pharmaceuticals and prescription drugs, I mean prescription diets. That's really basically a scalpel blade. Yeah, but those really aren't tools for healing. All it is is putting a band aid on it, cover up the symptom so we don't see it. You know, you may as well charge five hundred dollars to give the client a nice break on the price and put a paper bag over their heads so they don't see it. Yeah, that's all it is.

30:53 And you know, obviously the band aid is we call that an holistic medicine homeopathy palliation. That's you know, but when you have suppression that's when these treatments end up making the animal ultimately sicker. And that's really you know, that's that's criminal. Where you know, an intervention, a surgery drug drives that disease and deeper into the body and then makes it harder for you and me to do our job with assisting the animals and healing. But and then and then sometimes in bad cases, you know, prevents the body from being able to heal itself anymore. It can only fight so many battles at a time, and you know, you can only put so much you know, you can only put so much nutrition in so many vitamins, minerals, and to work across the whole body, because you know, just because you're treating you know, that shoulder or that hip, the rest of the body's got to stay healthy. So it's going to have to steal that stuff to keep it.

31:51 And of course when we have these issues, you know, the body is diverting a certain amount of energy to that issue. But also well you know, if that dog has got a problem, a hip problem, let's say on one side, the other side is trying to compensate for it. The front legs are trying to compensate for it. So they're using that, they're using the tools that you're giving. And so let's lower the ability to digest food with antibiotics. Let's give them a poorer quality of nutrition so we cannot create new cells, and then give a drug that suppresses the manufacture of the cells we really need.

32:31 Yeh, I don't mean a lab, but it's exactly what happens. Then, yeah, you put it, you put it in as alquim as the people you. Know, you know, I mean, unfortunately, I mean I have to recommend to most clients when they call me up. It's like, what should do I need to run the emergency room. And the first thing is no, unless they're bleeding to death or they've been flattened out by a truck or they you know, jumped out of a third story window, probably not needed. Or if you have if you have a dog who can breathe in heart failure you know, yeah, you know, or you have one of these little two three pound dogs that you know, dehydrate very quickly. I mean, then fluid therapy can be helpful and by some time, but you're right, most of the time, you just don't don't need.

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35:11 And welcome back to the Pet Health Cafe, the show where your Pet has Voice. This is Build a Pet Health two along with doctor Michael Dim. I want to open up this last segment with a question for the listeners out there, the people that are watching, have you ever felt abused or cheated by your veterinarian? Because I think people have to start realizing where their own feelings are so that we can change this whole situation. And something that I usually don't ask is, of course, if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook or most of the other social media's, you can put your comments in there and we would love to hear, especially on this topic once you've had to experience, because it gives us a little bit more ammunition as to how we can approach the system. You know, and unfortunately doctor dim Younion, I know it's convincing one person, one more person, one more person to jump over the other side, and one more person to stand up for their pat not for pharmacy.

36:08 Yeah, and the other thing, Bill which we maybe we could touch on, I mean in this last segment is we don't want to feed that model either as animal you know, guardians and as pet owners. We in other words, what I mean by that is, you know, one of the things the trends I've seen on social media, you know, especially with some of the chat rooms I happen to be on, is this movement towards over functional medicine testing. I mean, that's the best us and I know you're feel very strongly about that as well. And I you know, every time I go on one of these, in one of these rooms, I mean there's a new tester look at the microbiome a different way, or to look at this a different way, and all that. You know, testing and testing and food allergy testing a lot it just leads to just more confusion, more uncertainty and complexity. Whereas you and I are trying to keep healing simple. I mean really it is simple. I mean, it takes time and patience, but the essence of it is it's it's facta basics and simplicity, not more complex testing, not more functional medicine. You know, in home test kits. It's just that's not where it's at.

37:21 Either no and I actually this morning, I guess, I guess it probably started yesterday to sometimes. But I've seen some posts out there, so called research that they have now invented a drug that can cure a genetic illness. It's like, wait a minute, if it's genetics, If it was really genetics, that's in the DNA. Unless you change the alter the DNA or the RNA drastically, it's not possible, which then leads me to believe that it was never a gent. It would call the generic disease because we had no clue what we were talking about.

38:06 That's true. There we go again with that idiopathic. Yep, exactly. But yeah, I mean we have to watch the buzzwords, we have to watch the advertising, We have to watch a lot of these posts, like you said. And the other thing is, yes, the clients have got to start asking the right questions. And you know when you find a show like this one, you know that's why I say make the comments. And that's where thing because you and I spend a tremendous time amount of time with each and every client, so they not to sell them a drug or treatment, but so they understand how the body really works. And once you understand that, that's why probably fifty percent, maybe forty to fifty percent of all my clients on the pet side are now coming in and asking the same questions about themselves because it's it's been an awakening. Yes, you know, well what those are work for me? Well, changing my diet make a difference. Yeah, And then you have to make the decision though, to follow through on it. And that's the toughest part.

39:09 You know. People say, oh, it's so hard. You know, I'm feeding my dogs and I have to go and I got six jars of this and four jars of you know, all these different herbs and everything else, and it gets to be a task. But it doesn't have to be. You rotate this stuff in and out. You know, I've been explaining to people, you go back fifty years ago, okay, sixty years seventy years ago. First off, we had a family unit. Mom would fix dinner and every night would be something at least a variation on the dinner, so it wouldn't always be the same thing. You and I have a tendency to just grab what we normally, you know, rod, on a regular basis. What's easy for us. And so we're not only not getting the nutrients, but we're also creating different deficiencies unless we stop and think about it.

39:53 But to when I look at a lot of the foods from one hundred years ago, they were eating a tremendous amount of dues and soups, bone bros every almost every day, every other day, all the time. The cure for every disease in the eighteen hundreds, I swear was Grandma's chicken noodle soup or chicken soup. You know, they use it for everything, and it worked. Did you know we've. Gotten so far away from that that it's it's crazy. I mean I had somebody who I've had people sending me, you know, pictures of product. Well, you know, Bill, the stuff that you do is a little bit more expensive. Yeah, because you're getting quality, you're getting bang for your buck.

40:34 But you know it's stupid things like bone broth, and okay, so you're getting a pure bone broth. Yep, that's what I got. It's bone broth was the ingredient. First ingredient is bone broth, which means they're putting in somebody else's bone broth that doesn't have any ingredients listed, and then you're looking at other ingredients that are put into it, and then that's the other one. That the other thing. On supplements and on even drugs to a certain degree, a lot of foods inert ingredients. Is there anything that you put into your mouth that is one hundred percent inert? Absolutely not. Yeah, body has to do something with it exactly.

41:14 So how that's why I say, you know, I rail against this all the time. The labeling laws are so horrific, and you have to really be, you know, a prime detective to even just do a you know, a quick glance at what they're using. And even understand what the ingredients are, which most of us don't. Yeah, it's funny. I had one send me over a thing about treats and she says, well, Bill, your treats are more expensive and my dog eats them so fast. Well, first off, it's a treat. It's not the diet. You're not supposed to be giving them a treat every five seconds, you know, for every time I look at you. But on the other side of it, I had to dig through the company's website and this was a company that's based out of Georgia. Here in the United States. They make a big deal that is a factory farm or it's a you know, a local farm that's doing all this good stuff with good foods and all that stuff.

42:16 And but yet there was nothing that came up that this stuff was made here in the United States, right. And when I finally got through it, a little note on one product said no, this stuff all comes from South America, right right, you know, but the illusion on that website and on the packaging that was all done here. I saw the comment there a list of questions that people should ask for that. Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, what is the reason for doing a certain test? And will that change what we do? Where is it going to lead to? What? What is? You know? What is how is that going to determine the treatment of my animal? So for example, if an animal has vomiting and diarrhea, they go into the office and the vet says, no, we got to do a CBC, chemistry X rays all these tests, you know the truth of it. And then what happens if you do all that doc can you find disease X or disease? Why? How are they treated the same way as if they don't find disease actually why they're going to treat them with the same drugs, the same medicines, the same treatment. So always ask what the testing or the biopsy or the or the you know, the blood of the urine, of the the X rays. How are they going to determine treatment being different than if you didn't.

43:30 Do it right? Yeah? Yeah, I think that's a that's a good analogy. And it's like, you know, you know the other thing, the question that comes up all the time, And that's why I ask the question, have you ever felt cheated? Because so many people go in and spend thousands of dollars on testing and it always comes back there's nothing wrong. You got a perfectly healthy dog, and you know you don't. We up against the clock here as always. Where can people reach you, doun to Dim so we can at least get a few more healthy animals out there. They can go to my web site which is doctor dim dot com. D O C T O R D y M dot com has all my contact information, I email address, and I do check and return calls every day, so you don't have to wait.

44:13 That's good to hear. And of course you know I'm normally locked in at my Paleo Pet, just answering questions you know, when we're open, and of course I'll do consultations as well. Uh, you can go on and just you know, go on to the website look to your consultation and you know, I try to give a lot of value to it so that we can basically help you understand your animal and what's really going on. With that being said, thank you doctor Dim as always, you know, I think we tackle a lot of information here. Hopefully it opened up a few eyes and I'll be here again next week as always, so thank you for watching and look forward to the comments and good night.

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