Are supplements what they say they are? Helpful or dangerous?

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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, And

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welcome to Pet Health Cafe, a
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This is a Bill the Pet Health
Guru, along with my special guest host

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after Michael Dim. How are we
doing, Doc, I'm doing well.

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Bill. How are you doing this
week? Oh? Not too bad?

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You know, busy week again,
you know, everything just kind of going

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crazy as always, and of course
the months, the monsoons that we had

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down here. The last couple of
days. Oh my god, yeah,

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I know, I know. I
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was going to say, your your
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guess we may have an issue going
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I just see your okay, you
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health articles. Oh okay, Uh, the engineer said, there's a word

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audio for whatever reason, right,
now I don't know what's going on,

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but we'll just start pushing me like
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both perfectly. Fine, we can
see Bill. It's just doctor Demi is

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frozen, but we can hear him. So it'll work out. Okay,

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it'll work out. I am okay, I see that. Okay, hopefully

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not physically. I can always go
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in. I mean, I try
that, however, we want to do

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that. So anyway, you know, while we're trying to work out these

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and get the information out there that
we need to do. Yeah, now

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you're back. Yeah, So,
and of course, as always, you

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can always comment in the comments section, so we can see your questions and

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you know, your comments obviously and
hopefully answer at least some of some of

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them on the air. And of
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up consultations and things like that they
answer your individual questions, so tonight,

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I wanted to talk a little bit, and you know, I've been kind

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of not a soapbox here on vitamin
supplements and mineral supplements, the straight things

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and how they can actually you know, I'm asking the question are they really

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safe? And are they really doing
what they're supposed to do. I know

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you've been a supplement guy for a
long time, and you know, you

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know what, you know, how
does did they really always help? Or

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do you sometimes have to like have
your little battles and between brands and yeah,

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you know, kind of trained as
a conventional vet, they kind of

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you know, I mean obviously when
I first got out of school, in

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the first several years of holistic practice, you know, traditional vets really didn't

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use many supplements. I mean it
took them, you know, decades to

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get on even from their perspective.
Supplements, the common ones like Omega three

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fatty acids or fish oils or probiotics, those would probably be the two that

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I say that we're the ones that
kind of were initially kind of came on

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board with the Western medical community.
And you know, over my years,

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I certainly have used those type of
products and along with obviously fresh botanicals and

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glandulars and those kind of things.
But you know, certainly in the western

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medical model, they're looking at,
you know, marketing a supplement for a

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particular problem. Sure, yeah,
it's you know, you know, and

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that brought us up in previous shows
and that sort of thing that if you're

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buying the supplement, you know you're
going and you're trying to get down to

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and I want to talk more about
the core type things, the you know,

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the elemental type you know, supplements
iron and calcium and zinc and things

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of that nature. And then of
course on the vitamin side, you know,

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you got vitamin A, D and
E and you know, all these

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separate vitamins, but are they really
separate or is it part of something different?

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Yeah? No, I mean,
of course we look at things as

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functional units and nutrients working together in
the body. And certainly, like you

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said, there's been a trend to
more use isolated minerals and think you're going

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to get the same results as you
would in a more you know, food

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based type product, which I'm sure
you'll get into, you know, And

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that's a big part of it that
when I was doing the research on this,

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I pulled up a few different vinamins
and things like that. Yeah,

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the question down there is if you're
eating all you don't need vitamin supplements.

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That it's true. And the other
comment that was before that, are there,

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you know, supplements for pats and
of course they've been marketed that way.

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Are they actually different though than what
we are really looking at, you

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know, between the pet stuff and
the people's stuff or that's all the same.

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Yeah, it's very similar. Like
you said, you know, they

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are marketing you know, usually isolates
that they think are going to have certain

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benefits, and it really isn't much
different than what's in the human side of

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things. I mean, you know, there's labs now that are testing for

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vitamin D in animals because deficiencies have
been linked with problems like heart disease and

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other issues. So they're looking an
inflammatory bowel disease. So there are labs

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now looking at you know, measuring
these things and then if they're low,

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then supplementing with mainly the vitamin that's
low. So it's still a very fragmented

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system where it's not really looking at
the whole, it's looking at parts of

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the system. Right now, I
happen to pull up on my computer a

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vitamin or calcium supplement by one of
the major companies out there, and I'm

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looking through it and it lists calcium, of course as an ingredient, and

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it's basically calcium carbonate. It could
be any other form of calcium. How

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absorb it is that? How usable
is that in the body in that form?

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Yeah, I mean I would imagine
not very because it's isolated. It's

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not really how calcium comes into the
body or is metabolized around the body.

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So certainly not a natural way of
providing a nutrient like that. Yeah.

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Well, and of course we know
that, you know, calcium is a

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good one to start with because calcium
is tied to your magnesium and manganese and

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phosphorus, and you need all kinds
of enzymes and vitamin D three K two

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just to make it work. So
if those aren't present, would this supplement

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really work? No? And that's
a big one where calcium supplements, you

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know, are often used and you
know, pregnant or lactating animals, and

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often I hear my colleagues recommend,
you know, tombs to nursing, you

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know, to lactating moms, And
you're right, I mean, how absorbable.

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Are these things? It's just the
mentality that you know something's deficient and

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you have to give that. But
it doesn't come into play all that and

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all those interactions of the nutrients you
just mentioned. Yeah, no, I'm

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still looking at the same label.
And of course other ingredients and this isn't

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a soft gelt, soybean oil,
gelatin glycerine, soylectin, water color added,

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and white bees wet. No are
any of those nutritionally sound for our

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body or for our pets. Yeah, you're right. Those fillers, I

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mean, whatever they are, certainly
don't play a role in my opinion,

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that's for sure. Yeah, okay, Yeah, differently do the same thing,

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aren't they. Yeah, it's basically
the difference is labeled and probably the

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cost well, I mean, yeah, the cost. I mean. One

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of the biggest examples of vitamin injections
for our animals is vitamin B twelve,

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and uh, you know, it's
a common injection that's used for animals with

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bowel disease or to increase their energy
or their appetite. And the injections also

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come with other preservatives in them,
and other adjuncts, not adjivant, but

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adjuncts that are really serving no purpose
in the body and are synthetic compounds,

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I guess, just to preserve the
vitamin B twelve. So that's the most

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that's the most common one that I
see in conventional that practice is the use

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of B twelve. Now there's another
good question that these things go into the

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meat of I'm assuming of food animals, and does it pass three humans when

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they eat them. Any chemical that's
in the in that core animal and all

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in toxins and things like like faucet, I've got phase eight and classif eate

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and round up, synthetic and secticides, all of that. Yes, that's

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going to be being transferred through into
the muscle of the animal. And that's

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what we're reading is primarily muscle meat. I guess some of the organs would

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be able to you know, expel
some of it. But yeah, that's

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why we're looking at, you know, just grass finished animals, pasture raised

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animals wherever we can, and of
course i'm clean clean land, which is

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almost impossible to find today too.
Yeah, it's a serious issue. And

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like I say, you know,
we're being bombarded then with the supplement and

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the vitamin additives. Let's say you
know, we're raising beef candle and we're

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supplementing them with not only grains,
but different mineral supplements, different vitamin supplements.

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Are those going to transfer through those
chemicals as well? Absolutely sure,

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you know, but it's all regulated. I know, the FDA is looking

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out for us, and we shouldn't
get to worry about anything, right right.

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You know. The other the other
common supplement and traditional vet practice are

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the joint supplements, So the common
ones glucosamine and MSM, you know,

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rather than giving whole herbs or botanicals
to help with the joint and pain and

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inflammation. And again, these are
synthetic compounds that the idea is to replace

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the natural part of these substances in
the body. And uh, you know,

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like you said, when you look
at the labels of these things,

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there's so much more in there than
glucosamine or MSM. Sometimes they'll throw in

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a little bosquelia, but they're all
you know, not pure products, no,

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not even close. And you know, to go back to again to

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the same kelcium label. How was
it? You know, soybean oil is

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that non gmo? Is that organic? Is it? What method of extraction

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do they use? What stabilizers are
in that product that are are not labeled.

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So many oils today because it will
go rans so fast have to have

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uh different preservatives and stabilizers and even
various colors added to it. The same

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thing with the gelatine. We don't
know with what type of gelatin it is.

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Is it an animal base? Is
a plant based? Right? These

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are all questions water, I mean
water, is it you know, is

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it sewage water? Is it regular
tap water? Is it clinically you know?

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Is it a living water? You
know, like an ionized water.

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Everything is like not explained at all. And yet again supposedly this all goes

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through a process of regulation that's supposed
to make you know, they're supposed to

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be able to make certain claims.
And I don't see any of that there,

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right, right, good point.
And you know that's the basis of

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the supplement industry. And like I
said in my profession, it's basically using

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compounds like that. You know,
it's very hard to find traditionals that practices

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that are using foods and botanicals and
herbs, and you know, they're just

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using these supplements quote unquote with the
ingredients that you're talking about now, you

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know, when we look at and
because people probably don't even think about this

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part of it. When you buy, especially a kibble or a commercially made

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pet food, there is these vitamin
and mineral supplements added to it. And

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again, so we're doubling down in
the food and we're adding in more.

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Again, we don't have any explanation
is what these supplements are. Usually they'll

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list a few of them on the
package if they're supposedly like in this case

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calcium. You know, they might
say it's calcium from x y Z Labs.

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Again, you know, they mean
him every bit of these ingredients in

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there and even more. And that's
in the commercial foods. So we are

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giving those even unbeknownst to the pet
owner. What all is in it?

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And you know I've been posted with
the question many many times over the last

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twenty years of doing raw diets commercially. Is like, after two three months

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on the feeding struct transforming it like
Bill, where's it all getting its nutrients?

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Where's the cat getting its nutrients?
Well? It better be in the

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food, shouldn't it, right?
Right? I mean, isn't that the

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purpose of food is to provide nutrition
to the animal in the biologically appropriate way,

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right, No, they're so used
to that brainwashed you know, like

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you said, Spiel that the commercial
foods have everything they need in them.

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They're balanced, they've got the added
vitamins in it. In fact, one

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of my conventional vet colleagues who I
spoke to recently, you know, he

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was arguing with me about how can
you recommend a raw diet? And I

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said, well, the results are
you know, in clinically in the patients.

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One of the people at the Venory
office raises Great Danes and they've been

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on raw diets their whole lives,
no problems. You know, they're currently

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eight nine, ten years old.
Obviously that's not old, but for that

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breed conventionally raised, you know,
that's that's a ripe old age. And

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when I said to him, well, what's the argument from the you know,

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conventional nutritionists about you know, the
conventional nutritionists about how do you get

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around these quality ingredients of the corn
and the gluten and the you know,

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like you said, the soy that's
in these commercial pet foods. They know

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what their answer was. Their answer
is, well, they're nutrients. We

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don't have to worry about the quality
or whether they're carnivores or anything like that.

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They're nutrients and they're used the same
way. I mean, that was

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an amazing you know, and I
could imagine I would have been going absolutely

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crazy, but I when look at
it, and you know, to bring

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up that point when you're looking at
the digestive system of carnivores and herbivores,

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that they're making very very specific enzymes
and digestive products to extract what they well,

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the body really needs, what that
system needs to be provided with,

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and when we give them something different, they have to try to make different

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biochemicals that their body's not supposed to
do. Isn't that true? Yeah?

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No, absolutely that it didn't involve
to do. So you know, we

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make the body work a lot harder, you know, just like the idea

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of anything being cooked, you know, when we feed those and cooked and

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processed, right, we force their
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undigestible or partially digestible quote on quote
nutrients like the allopathic bets try to argue,

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right, you know, I mean
this example I always use with with

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dogs and of course with Kibbel.
Of course, the carbohydrates dogs don't are

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not normally producing the MLAs that we
have in our saliva to start to digest

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the process of breaking down carbs,
and therefore the pancreas has got to work

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extra hard to start to make more
and more and more of it because we've

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thrown off the body. And the
side effect of that as well is because

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those carbons breakdown in the sugars,
don't we have don't they have to then

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make a ton of insulin, absolutely, and then that leads to of course

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insulin deficiency eventually, and diabetes and
pancreatitis and all these degenerative diseases that we

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see in everyday conventional practice. Yeah, it's you know, it's it's you

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know, we we have to keep
going back to that basic and if it's

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not, if the nutrition is not
in the core food, we're doing something

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wrong with the core food. And
you know, because realistically, you know,

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we should not have to supplement anything, should we No, No,

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everything should be in that food.
And then, as you always say,

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the orbals and the botanicals they are
foods too, they're not you know,

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people often consider those I mean supplements. Yeah, anything outside of the standard

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diet is looked upon as a supplement. But as you say all the time

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on frequent shows. The orbans and
botanicals are foods. Yeah, absolutely,

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and I mean we treat them as
that. I mean it's a it's a

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food that we eat smaller amounts of
and we'll get into more of that after

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and we're back here in the Pet
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lois. This is build a Pet
Health Guru along with doctor Michael Dimmon.

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We're discussing supplements and are they really
what you're paying for and are they really

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beneficial to our pets and even to
ourselves. You know, before the break

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we were talking a little bit about
that the food actually should be the product

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in nature. Yes, they do. You know, we drink. They

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don't drink out of out of water
bottles, plastic BPA lateen vessels. They

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drink out of puddles, and we
would be drinking o the puddles and streams,

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and that's carrying natural minerals and natural
vinamins along with it, it isn't

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it. Yeah? Sure? And
uh. You know, that's why animals

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seek out certain things that their bodies
need. It's like when they eat the

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grass, right they're cleansing their body, they're chlorophyll you know, or their

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guts out of balance. So animals
tend to, you know, gravitate towards

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what they need, just like when
you talk about how you know, they'll

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start eating you know, the herbs, and then when their bodies don't need

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them anymore, they they stop and
they realize, you know, and then

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there's a wisdom that they you know, they don't need it anymore. You

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know. I get that all the
time, and they you know, when

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animals when people say, well,
he was eating herbs, bills herbs and

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he stopped, Well, I said, he probably doesn't need it anymore here

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or shake in. Yeah. I
mean the same thing with even the different

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meats and the different foods. It's
you know, I joke around all the

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time and with clients that I've got
a world class roast chicken diet and everybody

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loses weight on it because at the
end of the first week and you'll say,

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Bill, you give me another piece
of that chicken, I'm going to

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kill you because I'm sick. Of
it, and we are physically said it

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because the body uses a good All
food brings good and bed to the table,

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as you know. And when we
used the good stuff right away,

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but the bad stuff, we have
a tendency to hold on. Our got

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to try to get what's deficient in
our body, that stuff that's lacking,

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and it's trying to extract these things. And you know, so it's we

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physically get ill because of that.
And of course then at the end of

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that week, if I, if
I turn around and you know, give

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you a good juicy burger or a
nice piece of salmon, it's like,

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my god, the body says,
I can get so much more out of

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this. Let me get rid of
that sale chicken I got in my gut.

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And you know, half a day
we're running off to the bathroom going

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was that a salmonella burger or you
know, bad fish? You know,

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No, it's somebody actually doing what
it's supposed to do, isn't it.

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Yeah? No, sure, that's
a good point. Yeah, I put

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a question down there. Okay,
what was that question? The toopped of

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uh? With all things put into
the air and water supply, should we

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trust a puddle a puddle drink while
on a walk. We should be afraid

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of leptos barrosis, right Bill,
Yes, Yeah, that was That was

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a topic of a few weeks ago, wasn't it. Yeah. I mean,

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look at our tap water? Is
a puddle cleaner, dirtier than the

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tapwater? And why did they why
did they smell? You know, you're

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walking down the street after a rainstorm
and they smell twenty different puddles and they

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don't drink at all, and number
twenty two you're sitting there yelling don't drink

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the dirty water. Right. They
have an innate sense about what they need.

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And if it's there sitting in the
right minerals and it's not overly contaminated,

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they're probably gonna drink it. Yeah, but he's telling them to seen

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that many times. Sure, Like
I said, there's a wisdom that the

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body knows that what it needs,
and these animals certainly have that innate wisdom

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in their body to gravitate towards what
they need and repel and reject what they

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don't need. Yeah. When we
look at at the puddles that way too,

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especially if they're caused by by rainwater. That rain water is actually a

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form of ionized water, which is
something that I talk about a lot.

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It's living water, so you're even
if there's some pollutants or some contaminants in

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it, the structure of the water
itself is going to is going to be

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cleansing these contaminants out. Yeah,
yeah, I agree. It's you know,

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it's nature has provided a very interesting, you know, approach to how

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we live. Do people have had
the ability to know what their body needs.

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Absolutely, that's called cravings, But
natural cravings, not the cravings from

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the food additives that are in junk
food and processed food and that sort of

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thing, isn't it true? Yeah, No, that's certainly true. And

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of course, you know, the
only adjunct with that is is when people

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are emotionally stressed or upset or anxious, you know, they're going to gravitate

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more towards you know, feeding,
eating those foods like and those of course,

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especially this synthetic foods, the sweets, you know, the foods that

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have those food and you know,
flavor enhancers, you know, and then

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we gravitate towards that. We get
heavy, obese, we get ill.

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But that's not a natural craving,
that's an artificial craving. Based upon emotional

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stress, right, and of course
why we under so much emotional stress.

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They can't make fools that we just
stay in many cases, true, yeah,

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you know, we keep adding this
stuff and it accumulates over time.

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And that's why, you know,
when we're looking at different products to add

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to the diet, like natural herbs
and botanicals, you know that we consider

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those to be foods, not supplements. Those are useful a lot of times

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in various forms of detoxification and very
specific detoxification, aren't they. Yeah,

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no, sure, And you have
those excellent herbils that you know are geared

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towards those specific detoxifications, whether it's
the liver or the kidneys. And you

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know I use those herbs all the
time in practice. I mean we all,

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we all, we all could use
you know, liver detoxification, and

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our animals make a case that they
can. We can detoxify every one of

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them. You know. The you
know, the basic cause of lull disease

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is toxicity and deficiency. So if
you're if we're feeding a food that we

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actually have to supplement with a bad
supplement, we're adding actually more toxins in

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the form of like we were looking
at the soy oil and things like that.

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So we're actually complicating the whole process, and that's not going to create

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a healthy animal, is it.
No? No, not at all,

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not at all. And you know
the other part of that too, is

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when we try to push too much
of one thing, it's going to throw

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the balance of all those other things
out of out of whack, isn't it.

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Yeah, because that's the whole system, The whole undercrine system is designed

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to work as a whole, not
as an individual part, right, as

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an integrative system. Sure. I
mean that's what we talk about in different

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perspectives all the time, whether we're
looking at sex hormones and it's their role

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in health, and like we spoke
about last week, and the endocrine system

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working integratively, the nutrients of these
animals, you know, in the body

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work the same way. And so
when we artificially come in with a synthetic

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supplement or one vitamin, you know, it's not really you know, a

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harmonious product because it's putting tremendous stress. Not to mention you know, the

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the synthetic fillers that you mentioned with
that product a few minutes ago, the

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calcium, It really whoops, we
just that sorry about that. You know,

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we really put the body in havoc
and you know the and it leads

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to illness and sickness. It's not
just you know, the the products are

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in complete foods. It's it's putting
the body out of balance, out of

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homeostasis, and when that happens,
then we go into states of toxicity.

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That's exactly right. And you know
you mentioned too when I was briefly touching

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on the commercial foods they're supposedly complete
in balance for basically all life you know,

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styles and life changes and life stages. But the body's dynamic. I

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mean, what the animal needs that
sleep is sitting there on your couch right

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now. When he gets up when
somebody knocks in the door and starts,

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you know, running around and barking
and all of that. They're using up

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different nutrients just to maintain that activity, aren't they. Yeah, yeah,

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that's going to throw everything off,
right, so exactly. And then not

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to mention feeding the same food day
in and day out, not changing it,

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you know which most veterinarians recommend to
clients just to feed the same the

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same diet, no variation. That
does its own number on the body.

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As we've talked about. Well,
that's you know, that's the premise of

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my my roast chicken diet. And
I think the veterinarians that are recommending the

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single food for the lifetime, I
think we ought to put them on of

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my roast chicken diet. I just
you know, I think they would be

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that would be a good thing,
you know, do Actually I've done it

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in the store where I've said,
you know, you want to know how

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your dog really feels or your cat
really feels. Were doing that that carbohydrate

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you know mix that you're using.
I want you to pick one brand of

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cereal, one flavor of cereal,
and that's all you can eat for one

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week, dry dry. Right.
That's a good point. Okay, make

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sure it's that right. And I
can guarantee you that you will not be

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able to get through to through two
distinct meals of doing that, no matter

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how hooked you are on junk food, because your body just says, hey,

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I can't do it anymore. I'm
not going to do it right exactly

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now. Now, A good steak
I might be able to do, you

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know, but even even even a
great steak, I mean, you know,

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if you're eating file a all week
long. It's going to be like,

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oh my god, I don't want
another full life for another six months.

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Oh not me. I would want
it. I would want it every

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night. Well see, I have
a tendency to one to one of uh

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some variety. So you can alternate
between the filet and the good Delmonico and

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maybe some New York strips thrown in
the now, and then then the good

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burger I like the steaks. Yeah, yeah, that's where the flavor is.

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Yeah, absolutely so. But you
know, you go into a veto

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office, now, bill about the
supplements. You know, they they're on

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the shelf there now, I mean
they're I mean a clinic. I do

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some part time work, and they
have you know, all these different as

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I said, Omega threes and you
know, fatty acids. You know,

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they have probiotics, they have other
synthetic supplements that you know, probiotics like

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I said, and you know it's
and it's a second profit center in the

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office. Yeah. So yeah,
and again I can go back to what

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we first said in a very beginning. If the pet food is marked as

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complete and balanced, and they're sellingess
as complete and balanced and a lifestyle type.

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You know food, which the so
called prescription diets do. Where do

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the supplements come into that? You
know, mosaic It doesn't make any sense

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right right, Well, it's a
mindset, like you said, it's a

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mindset of the public, and it's
a big industry. It's big money,

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just like you know the pet food
industry. You know, the supplement business

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is right, it's huge, Yeah, it really is. And you know,

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now we're hungry. But it must
have been talking about the steaks.

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That's it's usually the trigger, and
that's actually what our dogs need, our

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cats need that they are carnivores and
that's you know, that's they're fuel for

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every system and every sell in their
body. And without that, you're going

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to have problems. We're going to
be right back after this quick break.

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431
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All right, and we're back here
in a Pet Health Cafe, the show

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where your pet has a voice.
This is Build a Pet Health Gurule along

433
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with my special guest host, doctor
Michael Dimm. Does your company have orders

434
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for holiday treats for for babies?
We do do treats, but they're real

435
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treats. They're not highly decorated with
sugars and colors and things like that.

436
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.639
Nature. I think the best treat
for your dog is probably instead of giving

437
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him even just a raw regular raw
diet, give one of those filets that

438
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doctor dim really loves to have.
What do you think, Doc, Yeah,

439
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that'll really give them us the animalist
smile on their face and it's good.

440
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:08.239
Yeah, exactly. I mean that's
about synthetic synthetic treats, right.

441
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.320
I mean that's what they get at
the at the local pet smart and you

442
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:20.000
know all those decorated synthetic compounds that
are sold, and just like it is

443
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for us in the supermarket. It's
funny. I had a client in this

444
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week and one of one of our
younger dogs all of a sudden had diarrhea

445
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.559
for like two or three days in
a row. And stools are always great.

446
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.159
They've been out of our diet forever
and on some of our supplements and

447
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.360
stuff like that, and she was
just concerned that you know, maybe one,

448
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you know, one of the meats
or one actually the some you know,

449
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.679
one of the herbals was causing it
because it's a small, smaller dog

450
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.840
than the others. And she basically
puts the same amount in the dishes,

451
00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.119
and this dog bounces from dish to
dish that maybe I'm overdoing it with the

452
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.800
supplements everything. And I said,
that's not normally a factor, because you

453
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know, everbody's going to get rid
of whatever's excess, and it doesn't mean

454
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.199
if it's natural, it's not necessarily
going to be as express, you know,

455
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:15.239
in a real loose stool as it
will be with some the synthetic compounds.

456
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.320
And I said, you know,
we always have to worry about what

457
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we do in the household and stuff
like that. And you know, I

458
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.840
cleaned properly and all that. I
said. One of the other items that

459
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:31.880
I sometimes see that causes issues is
essential oils. And I said, because

460
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:37.400
all those oils when you're doing the
you know, the us your diffuser,

461
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.400
they all go up in a smell
very very good, but they all end

462
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.400
up down on the floor where the
animals living. And she looked at me

463
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.679
and her mouth dropped open and said, I haven't used the the fuser in

464
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.840
months and months and months, and
about four or five days ago I put

465
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it on. And she's like,
that's it. I said, yeah,

466
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I said, and by the way
that liver kidney cleans was working, that's

467
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:08.079
why I got rid of it,
right right exactly. You know. But

468
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:14.400
we we have these environmental things that
we don't even think about, which are

469
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sometimes endocrine disruptors. There's, uh, you know, the interact sometimes with

470
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.000
some of these supplements as well,
uh, you know, the other other

471
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chemicals and products. I mean,
when you look at tablets, the ingredients

472
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.519
that have to be used to make
tablets the sorbitols and the sugars, and

473
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.920
the binding agents and the caking anti
stick agents so that they don't stick in

474
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the bottle. All that stuff that
just multiplied, you know, one hundred

475
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times when you're giving them on a
regular basis. Yeah, and it's interesting.

476
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:54.400
I looked at another item here that
the ingredient label for on on the

477
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:01.000
manufacturing side, citric acid. The
ingredient labels it's citric acid. Now where

478
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.480
do you go out in nature and
find citrus acid? Of course, this

479
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.360
is like one of the major one
of the major suppliers of food products across

480
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the globe. Actually one of the
biggest soy companies in the world. This

481
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.199
particular one happened to come from their
corn business units, so it's obviously it's

482
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.559
a corn based one. But there's
nothing but it doesn't tell you that.

483
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:28.599
And that's what you see on your
label of your supplement is citric acid.

484
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.800
Again, how is it processed?
And everything else? And you know,

485
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:43.880
yes, they do disrupt humans as
well, any mammal well not only mammals,

486
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.719
I mean, you know, basically
every creature. When you start getting

487
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:51.760
into synthetics, even our plants don't
work well with them, you know,

488
00:41:52.119 --> 00:42:00.159
at least in a natural sense.
But yeah, this whole balance thing,

489
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:07.480
the true test for balance is really
watching what your animals really doing, isn't

490
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.880
it How they move, how they
react, the brightness in their eyes,

491
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.840
the touch of them, their you
know, their skin and their coat,

492
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.679
the textures, all of that sort
of stuff are the true indicators of health,

493
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:25.119
aren't they. Yeah? Sure,
So it's a reflection of what's going

494
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.599
on in the body is shown always
to our observation and what we're seeing on

495
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.360
the outside of the body. It
sure is. Yeah, you know,

496
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.360
you know, my recommendation always is
is number one with disease. Of course,

497
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.679
if you think you've got something,
start to approach you. You don't

498
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.840
need a ton of you know,
expensive testing and answert that you just start

499
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.639
going down that route. But also
if you need vitamins and minerals and even

500
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.960
probiotics and things of this nature where
they found in nature, just find the

501
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:01.400
most natural food that has these in
a bioavailable form. And that's the most

502
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:07.239
important part about that, isn't it
The bioavailability. Bioavailability Sure, rather than

503
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:13.199
synthesized you know, bacteria in the
lab. You know now that probiotic business

504
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.920
industry is really now rampant. You
know, there's so many different formulations,

505
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.159
I'm sure as you know, and
I remember just a short time ago,

506
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:27.199
ten twelve years ago, it was
really nothing, not much of you know,

507
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.280
in that in that industry. But
you know, it's certainly like you

508
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:36.239
would say, there's certainly foods like
raw goat's milk, like you said in

509
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:42.119
Kiefer, that nourished the gut in
more appropriate way. And you know,

510
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.599
when you look at a product like
that, I mean you're not only it's

511
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.920
not just the probiotic aspect of it, because you know, commercial probiotics in

512
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.880
order to sell them, you know, and have them shelf stable, they

513
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:58.840
have to pasteurize those, and pasturization
does what to the organisms? It kills

514
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.119
them. Yeah, so it's dead
bacteria, right, So you're so you're

515
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.679
getting a jar of dead bacteria for
fifty bucks. That's really a bargain,

516
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:14.119
right, you know. But that
that key for that yogurt, the raw

517
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:22.119
goat smelk and cow's milk, that's
loaded with literally dozens of not hundreds of

518
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:27.039
different vitamins, enzymes, and nutrients, isn't it. Yeah, yeah,

519
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.440
absolutely, And it's in a food
form, which it's supposed to be.

520
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:37.400
And you know, certainly we've seen
plenty of animals who's digestive symptoms improved just

521
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.960
by adding these foods. You know, it's it's interesting too. I mean,

522
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.519
you know when people say different things
about the different foods. An example

523
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:51.840
that I sometimes use too is you
take turkey and pork as an animal as

524
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:59.599
a food. Those uh animals,
they're nutrient One of their nutrients that they

525
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.440
have is vitamin C. If you
eat beef, there's no vitamin C in

526
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.000
beef. So that's why again,
rotation, rotation, rotation, you know,

527
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.360
keep varying it because the body is
going to take what it needs and

528
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.159
get rid of the rest, right, And that's what creates homeostasis, isn't

529
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.280
it. Yeah, And then the
animals that you know, we get this

530
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.719
argument all the time when you know, we talk about the rotating protein diet,

531
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.880
meat diet, Well, my animal
can't handle this protein and you can't

532
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.920
handle that protein. Well, it's
part of being in a state of toxicity.

533
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.239
And you know, we have to
allow our animals time to adjust to

534
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.559
the raw diet. And if they're
liver and kidneys need to be cleaned out,

535
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.960
that's where they you know, your
herbals and botanicals come in to assist

536
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.000
that process. So you know,
that argument of my animal can't handle variety

537
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.280
is a common one in the you
know, in the conventional world especially.

538
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.760
Yeah, it is, and it's
you know, it's because different foods,

539
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.480
different herbs, different botanicals they take
out verus. They're not just generalized cleaning

540
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.440
units. They're very specific in the
toxins that they remove, and that's an

541
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.880
important part of it. We want
to be able to get out what we

542
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.079
need. We're up against the last
few minutes, your doc, Where can

543
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:20.280
people get hold of you? I
always get that at my on my website,

544
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.599
which is doctordimm dot com that's doctor
spelled out d y M or one

545
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:30.360
word dot com. That has my
email address, my contact information, and

546
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.199
as you've seen recently, Bill putting
together some videos that they can go to

547
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.519
on my social media page. Right, and uh, you know a lot

548
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:44.239
of good information there. Yep,
absolutely, And question, yes you still

549
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:49.159
have. I'm sorry before you end
you had a caller call and ask a

550
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.639
question. Let me make sure I
get this right. Are human is the

551
00:46:52.679 --> 00:47:01.360
only animals that seek out milk from
other animals? In a technical sense,

552
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:10.679
you're right, except that when a
predator kills a lactating animal, they do

553
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.400
consume that milk. They do consume
that breast tissue which is lowly with milk,

554
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:22.000
and uh so, yes, they
do not actually seek it, but

555
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:31.119
you know, you get another it's
part of the Yeah, that's right exactly,

556
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:37.119
and that and those positions. But
they're going nurse. You know,

557
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.679
we get calls all the time.
I mean of pets, you know,

558
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.880
cross nursing. I mean, you
know, when you got baby animals,

559
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.400
you know, they'll put you know, different animals. You know, castle

560
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.400
sometimes nurse off of the dog.
Dogs will nurse off of the cat.

561
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:59.840
You know, it's part of nature. I think you asking adults adults are

562
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:06.920
the only human adults are the only
ones that seek out intentionally to drink the

563
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.360
milk of other species. Well,
it's I don't think it's really that we

564
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.400
seek out. It's it's that it's
just part of the you know, it's

565
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:19.800
one of the foods that we found
that can be consumed over time that we

566
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.519
have you know, that we kind
of adapted to I won't say evolved,

567
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:29.360
but we've adapted to that that those
are nutrients that we can use. Well,

568
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:30.920
no, I think they mean billy. You know, humans are drinking

569
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:37.639
almond milk and oat milk and soy
milk. That's what I think by the

570
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.480
only species that seeks out those that
will choose to drink those things. Yeah,

571
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.239
yeah, that's another take on it. But the question that that another

572
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.920
question that I popped up there.
Yes, you have time to order at

573
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:59.440
my paleopat any of the treats I
need the entrees and including the tenderloins filets

574
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:04.199
for your dog for Christmas and the
holidays, whether if you ever holiday you

575
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.840
support anyway. We're up against the
end of the show again, doctor dem

576
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:14.119
we did it, so goodnight folks. Thanks for tuning in and watching us,

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